Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 In a message dated 12/31/07 7:58:53 PM, farahbar@... writes: > > Several of my blood tests have shown being low in sodium and when normal, it > is border line. This was following an episode of feeling so out of energy > that I felt I had no muscles. I was so tired and exhausted. Couldn't think > right and couldn't move. The endo that saw me in this condition recognized > it right away and sent me to the lab for a blood test first then said to > take salt crackers which helped within the hour. So now, when I feel this > way, I just have to remember to take some saltine crackers. Or better yet, a > cup of orange juice sprinkled with a 1/2 tsp kosher salt will do the trick > faster. I normally dont add salt to the foods I cook and only take sodium > when I feel totally drained like I am going to die any moment. > > Farah > > > My guess is that a cup of Reg V-8 would do the same. May your pressure be low! Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc. (sharedcareinc.com) Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. ************************************** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 In a message dated 12/31/07 7:58:53 PM, farahbar@... writes: > > Several of my blood tests have shown being low in sodium and when normal, it > is border line. This was following an episode of feeling so out of energy > that I felt I had no muscles. I was so tired and exhausted. Couldn't think > right and couldn't move. The endo that saw me in this condition recognized > it right away and sent me to the lab for a blood test first then said to > take salt crackers which helped within the hour. So now, when I feel this > way, I just have to remember to take some saltine crackers. Or better yet, a > cup of orange juice sprinkled with a 1/2 tsp kosher salt will do the trick > faster. I normally dont add salt to the foods I cook and only take sodium > when I feel totally drained like I am going to die any moment. > > Farah > > > Trust you took him my article. I am sure he has more PAs if he looks. May your pressure be low! Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc. (sharedcareinc.com) Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. ************************************** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 In a message dated 12/31/07 7:23:33 PM, airlinerg@... writes: > > Hi Farah, > > My doctor (a nephrologist) has had me do yearly MRIs and CT scans to > see if I have a tumor that is causing hyperaldosteronism (Conn's > Syndrome) but the MRIs and CT scans always just show hyperplasia and > no tumor. > As long as you dont have to pay for them but the rest of us are. The scan costs about $1500 is my guess and not worth it. We know you have PA and as long as BP and K are controlled that is all you need to know. Take him my article. > > How do you determine if your salt level is on the border low side > and sometimes lower than normal? How do you know when you need > extra salt in your food? > > Airlinerg > > > May your pressure be low! Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc. (sharedcareinc.com) Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. ************************************** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 In a message dated 12/31/07 3:11:01 PM, farahbar@... writes: > But with Spiro, my doctor(my hmo doctor) goes on panic mode > every time he sees my blood work and insists I should increase the Spiro > because Aldosterone is on the rise. > This means the spiro is working. May your pressure be low! Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc. (sharedcareinc.com) Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. ************************************** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 In a message dated 12/31/07 2:57:33 PM, airlinerg@... writes: > > > Hi Farad, > > I have been on Inspire for several years (ever since it was first FDA > approved), and my Rennin has not increased. It is still below normal > (less than 0.2 ngmLhr.) But on 200 mg of Inspra, my blood pressure > is now 120/80 and my potassium is 4.5. When I was on 150 mg of > Inspra, my blood pressure was 130/90 and my potassium was 3.7. > > Airlinerg > > > What is your salt intake. The best way to lower renin is to eat more salt than your body can handle. May your pressure be low! Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc. (sharedcareinc.com) Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. ************************************** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 In a message dated 12/31/07 2:47:10 PM, farahbar@... writes: > > Hi : > The meds that we take dont reduce the amount of aldosterone. They just work > as a mineral corticoid blocker to block the effects of Aldosterone. In fact, > if you do a blood test following serveral months of taking Spironolactone, > you will realize that your serum Aldosterone is actually higher than it was > before taking the meds. (at least this is in my case). What makes a > difference, is the ratio of Aldosterone to Renin. Once on medications, the > Renin goes up making the ratio less. > By the way I dont have any flushing experience when I am totally off the > spiro or aldactone. I have tried this several times when I had to prepare > for an AVS and went off spiro for 8 weeks twice. It is however reduced by > Aldactone and at least tolerable for now. > > Farah > > > The for sure way to lower aldo is to take out both adrenals but then you are left with 's disease. May your pressure be low! Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc. (sharedcareinc.com) Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. ************************************** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 In a message dated 12/31/07 11:01:04 AM, val@... writes: > > Dr. Grim, Farah mentioned that she still has the sweats, even with spiro. > > > Dont know. Many causes. In women always think of menpause in one form or another. May your pressure be low! Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc. (sharedcareinc.com) Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. ************************************** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 a, do your sweats come every day? If so, at any specific times? My sweats start in the early mornings and are usually gone by mid-morning. They leave for months and then return when I start one of my " episodes. " BTW, you have a beautiful name. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall I've had the flushing & sweats for probably 20 years now, long before I should have been menopausal or perimenopausal. I had a hysterectomy 11 years ago and now at age 57 I still have them, HRT or no HRT. They are extreme. Mine begin as an entire body flush, similar to what is felt when niacin is taken only magnified by about 20x. Then I can literally feel my pores open and the drenching sweat begin. Not fun. I've taken Aldactone and spiro and didn't notice a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Hi Val, I've tried to coordinate them with something, time, BP, pulse, etc. but can't. They don't come every day or a specific time and seem to be totally random. a --- Valarie <val@...> wrote: > a, do your sweats come every day? If so, at > any specific times? > > My sweats start in the early mornings and are > usually gone by mid-morning. > They leave for months and then return when I start > one of my " episodes. " > > BTW, you have a beautiful name. > > Val > > From: hyperaldosteronism > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On > Behalf Of a Hall > > > I've had the flushing & sweats for probably 20 years > now, long before I should have been menopausal or > perimenopausal. I had a hysterectomy 11 years ago > and > now at age 57 I still have them, HRT or no HRT. They > are extreme. Mine begin as an entire body flush, > similar to what is felt when niacin is taken only > magnified by about 20x. Then I can literally feel my > pores open and the drenching sweat begin. Not fun. > I've taken Aldactone and spiro and didn't notice a > difference. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > -Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 I know Quan Duh - saw him for an evaluation. He is a surgeon and surgeons like to do surgery. Dave Farah Rahbar wrote: > > It is hard to convince the doctors who think of their patients as > illiterates and dont listen to what they say. My first endo and now my > general practitioner keep on insisting that when the ARR is very high, > it is > due to an adenoma and most likely not hyperplasia. Even when I was seen by > Dr. Quan Duh in UCSF, he insisted that I must have an adenoma causing > me to > have a very high ARR even though it was not detected by any scan.- and > these are the supposedly experts in the field. > > The doctors at Mayo clinic suggested that I be tested by them in three > years > again. > > Cheers! > Farah > > On Jan 1, 2008 7:39 AM, <lowerbp2@... <mailto:lowerbp2%40aol.com>> > wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 12/31/07 7:23:33 PM, airlinerg@... > <mailto:airlinerg%40grad.com><airlinerg%40grad.com>writes: > > > > > > > > Hi Farah, > > > > > > My doctor (a nephrologist) has had me do yearly MRIs and CT scans to > > > see if I have a tumor that is causing hyperaldosteronism (Conn's > > > Syndrome) but the MRIs and CT scans always just show hyperplasia and > > > no tumor. > > > > > As long as you dont have to pay for them but the rest of us are. The > scan > > costs about $1500 is my guess and not worth it. We know you have PA > and as > > > > long as BP and K are controlled that is all you need to know. Take > him my > > article. > > > > > > How do you determine if your salt level is on the border low side > > > and sometimes lower than normal? How do you know when you need > > > extra salt in your food? > > > > > > Airlinerg > > > > > > > > > > > > > May your pressure be low! > > > > Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD > > Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc. > > (sharedcareinc.com) > > Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI > > Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee > > > > Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure > > and the Physiology and History of Survival During > > Hard Times and Heart Disease today. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 In a message dated 1/2/08 12:58:00 AM, farahbar@... writes: > > It is hard to convince the doctors who think of their patients as > illiterates and dont listen to what they say. My first endo and now my > general practitioner keep on insisting that when the ARR is very high, it is > due to an adenoma and most likely not hyperplasia. Even when I was seen by > Dr. Quan Duh in UCSF, he insisted that I must have an adenoma causing me to > have a very high ARR even though it was not detected by any scan.- and > these are the supposedly experts in the field. > > > Guess they have not seen very many. May your pressure be low! Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc. (sharedcareinc.com) Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. ************************************** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 In a message dated 1/1/08 11:29:08 AM, shahall@... writes: > > I've had the flushing & sweats for probably 20 years > now, long before I should have been menopausal or > perimenopausal. I had a hysterectomy 11 years ago and > now at age 57 I still have them, HRT or no HRT. They > are extreme. Mine begin as an entire body flush, > similar to what is felt when niacin is taken only > magnified by about 20x. Then I can literally feel my > pores open and the drenching sweat begin. Not fun. > I've taken Aldactone and spiro and didn't notice a > difference. > > a > > > Does BP go up or down? May your pressure be low! Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc. (sharedcareinc.com) Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. ************************************** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Nothing dramatic. As I said, I've tried to coordinate them to something: time, BP, pulse, food eaten, etc. but it seems like they are totally random. a --- lowerbp2@... wrote: > > In a message dated 1/1/08 11:29:08 AM, > shahall@... writes: > > > > > > I've had the flushing & sweats for probably 20 > years > > now, long before I should have been menopausal or > > perimenopausal. I had a hysterectomy 11 years ago > and > > now at age 57 I still have them, HRT or no HRT. > They > > are extreme. Mine begin as an entire body flush, > > similar to what is felt when niacin is taken only > > magnified by about 20x. Then I can literally feel > my > > pores open and the drenching sweat begin. Not fun. > > I've taken Aldactone and spiro and didn't notice a > > difference. > > > > a > > > > > > > > Does BP go up or down? > > > > May your pressure be low! > > Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD > Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and > Consulting, Inc. > (sharedcareinc.com) > Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and > Epidemiology Med. Col. WI > Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, > Milwaukee > > Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood > Pressure > and the Physiology and History of Survival During > Hard Times and Heart Disease today. > > > > ************************************** > See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > -Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 In a message dated 1/5/08 5:21:47 PM, kimshannons@... writes: > > a, > I'm with you, no change in BP during flush. Same symptoms and have had > them for a couple of years now. Was on estrogen (had a total hyst.) > for a year, and the flushes were 'dry' during that time. Now they are > both 'dry' and 'wet', with the dry being prevelent. > > kim in MN > > > Sound like a trail of estrogens would be in order if not contraindicated and if the sweats, in your opinion, are worse than the risks of taking them. That way you get a chance to decide and play Dr. in the experiment with you Dr of course. May your pressure be low! Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc. (sharedcareinc.com) Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 a, I'm with you, no change in BP during flush. Same symptoms and have had them for a couple of years now. Was on estrogen (had a total hyst.) for a year, and the flushes were 'dry' during that time. Now they are both 'dry' and 'wet', with the dry being prevelent. kim in MN > > Nothing dramatic. As I said, I've tried to coordinate > them to something: time, BP, pulse, food eaten, etc. > but it seems like they are totally random. > > a > > > > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > -Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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