Re: Re: Now I need a referral

[Guest guest]

You might want to consider low-sodium V-8. Two small cans will give you

nearly 1,200 mg of K and you don't get all the sugar found in OJ.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of mmcandmcc

I had a K problem but it resolved with change to high potassium

diet. I drink 1/2 gallon of orange juice per day and eat two

banannas.

[Guest guest]

Calculate how much K you are getting from this and recall that you need

at least 4000 mg a day to DASH.

Maybe more if you have PA.

On Feb 19, 2008, at 8:23 AM, mmcandmcc wrote:

> I had a K problem but it resolved with change to high potassium

> diet. I drink 1/2 gallon of orange juice per day and eat two

> banannas.

[Guest guest]

What was measured in the 24 hr urine? Na, K, protein, aldosterone????

Remember you cant give us too many details. The more we know the more

we can help.

CE Grim MD

On Feb 19, 2008, at 8:32 AM, mmcandmcc wrote:

> History of my HTN:

>

> I'm age 36. BP was normal through four pregnancies. 18 mos after

> 4th baby BP went 190/126. Turned out to be graves. Had thyroid

> removed and BP went back to 110-120/70-79. Looking back my BPs have

> always been lower during pregnancies and gone up a bit after

> delivery. I'm 5 foot 5 inches, 133 lbs so weight is not an issue.

> During my last pregnancy my BP went up at the delivery to 180/120

> range and would not come down. That was nine mo's ago.

>

>

> >

> > > I saw the endo today who suggested I see someone who specializes

> in

> > > hard to treat hypertension. I live near Toledo, Ohio and he said

> > > their is no such doc in the area, but I could go to the

> University of

> > > Michigan or the Cleveland Clinic. Where ever I go it will be a

> > > battle with my insurance company. They pay $0 if I go out of

> > > network, although I've seen both the endo's on thier list.

> Should I

> > > go further away than Michigan or Cleveland?

> > >

> > > Long story, short...I got hypertension 9 months ago at the

> delivery

> > > of my baby and I've been on just about every type of BP med

> sometimes

> > > three at a time. The only one's that have brought it down are

> > > Clonindine and Aldactone, although the clonodine only worked for

> > > about a month. On aldactone 100 mg 2 x day it averages 145/94.

> I've

> > > had CTs of brain, kidneys and adrenals and nothing abnormal

> found. I

> > > had my thyroid removed 3 yrs back when graves disease was causing

> > > hypertension. Surgery completely corrected high BP.

> > >

> > > Labs:

> > > blood

> > > Renin 1.9 (ref .8 - 5.3)

> > > Aldostorone 22.8 (ref 1 - 16)

> > > Sodium 136 (ref 137 - 145)

> > > Potassium 4.3 (ref 3.5 - 5.1)

> > >

> > > 24 hr urine with salt load returned normal (I don't have the

> numbers).

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Calculate how much K you are getting from this and recall that you need

at least 4000 mg a day to DASH.

Maybe more if you have PA.

On Feb 19, 2008, at 8:23 AM, mmcandmcc wrote:

> I had a K problem but it resolved with change to high potassium

> diet. I drink 1/2 gallon of orange juice per day and eat two

> banannas.

[Guest guest]

Clarence Grim wrote:

>

> Calculate how much K you are getting from this and recall that you need

> at least 4000 mg a day to DASH.

>

.. . .and you body must be retaining enough long enough. W/PA. all bets

on dietary K are iffy.

Maybe more if you have PA.

I tried doing it with diet during routine K testing, and more K consumed

had negligible effect - until I blocked my aldo and got BP down. Then K

returned to normal regardless of what I ate.

My guess is that w/PA, you can eat mountains of K-rich foods or K-DUR

tablets, and the kidneys will simply throw it out (as they retain

sodium). That is, if you have good kidney function. PA fool's 'em and

gets 'em working lopsidedly.

On Feb 19, 2008, at 8:23 AM, mmcandmcc wrote:

> > I had a K problem but it resolved with change to high potassium

> > diet. I drink 1/2 gallon of orange juice per day and eat two

> > banannas.

>

>

[Guest guest]

K goes out if Na is retained. Na is retained only if too much is eaten.

Therefore it is mandatory to lower Na intake to help raise K.

Also recall that aldo ONLY causes HTN and fibrosis etc when excess salt

is taken.

Excess salt is defined as enough to raise the BP (in everyone) and

lower the K (in PA)

On Feb 19, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Dave wrote:

> My guess is that w/PA, you can eat mountains of K-rich foods or K-DUR

> tablets, and the kidneys will simply throw it out (as they retain

> sodium). That is, if you have good kidney function. PA fool's 'em and

> gets 'em working lopsidedly.

[Guest guest]

Did you get your BP down with meds?

Ellen

Dave wrote:

> Clarence Grim wrote:

> >

> > Calculate how much K you are getting from this and recall that you need

> > at least 4000 mg a day to DASH.

> >

>

> . . .and you body must be retaining enough long enough. W/PA. all bets

> on dietary K are iffy.

>

> Maybe more if you have PA.

>

> I tried doing it with diet during routine K testing, and more K consumed

> had negligible effect - until I blocked my aldo and got BP down. Then K

> returned to normal regardless of what I ate.

>

> My guess is that w/PA, you can eat mountains of K-rich foods or K-DUR

> tablets, and the kidneys will simply throw it out (as they retain

> sodium). That is, if you have good kidney function. PA fool's 'em and

> gets 'em working lopsidedly.

[Guest guest]

What's HTN? Also, do you have to eliminate ALL salt? A little salt is

necessary for the body. I'm going to start eating tons more celery, as the

sodium in it is healthy.

Thanks,

Ellen

Clarence Grim wrote:

> K goes out if Na is retained. Na is retained only if too much is eaten.

>

> Therefore it is mandatory to lower Na intake to help raise K.

>

> Also recall that aldo ONLY causes HTN and fibrosis etc when excess salt

> is taken.

>

> Excess salt is defined as enough to raise the BP (in everyone) and

> lower the K (in PA)

>

> On Feb 19, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Dave wrote:

>

> > My guess is that w/PA, you can eat mountains of K-rich foods or K-DUR

> > tablets, and the kidneys will simply throw it out (as they retain

> > sodium). That is, if you have good kidney function. PA fool's 'em and

> > gets 'em working lopsidedly.