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In a message dated 1/12/08 8:49:22 AM, airlinerg@... writes:

>

> I have hyperaldosteronism. I am taking 100 mg of Inspra in the AM and

> 100 mg of Inspra in the PM. I also take omacor, lipitor, tricor,

> cymbalta, and cardura. I am also using a multivitamin and coenzyme

> Q10 and konsyl (psylium) for constipation.

>

> I am staying at 8,000 feet where I will be until January 22, 2008,

> skiing. I usually live at 0 feet elevation.

>

> Here are my symptoms so far:

>

> 1. out of breath-at rest or with exericse-takes a day or two to adapt.

> 2. more salt sensitive, constant salty taste in my mouth

> 3. craving for sugar and carbohydrates

> 4. very tired and fatigued easily-again adapting to higher altitude is most

> likely phenomena

> 5. wake up several times at night from sleep

> 6. constantly thirsty-drink till you are not thirsty

> 7. bleeding nose-dry? what is BP? Nasal CPAP?

> 8. muscle aches and knee aching-new or old? Skied yet?

> 9. going to sleep 4 hours earlier than usual

> 10. need for frequent naps

> 11. frequent urination

> 12. more intolerance to heat

> 13. some cold intolerance

> 14. cracking of cuticles on hands

>

Very dry where you are. If you have cpap I would use humidifier or

humidifier in bed room.

>

> Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated.

>

>

May your pressure be low!

Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD

Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc.

(sharedcareinc.com)

Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI

Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee

Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure

and the Physiology and History of Survival During

Hard Times and Heart Disease today.

**************

Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

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In a message dated 1/12/08 1:49:28 PM, riothamus2@... writes:

>

> You know what your BP has been doing up there? Those portable Omrons

> can be inaccurate, but the physiotherapists and exercise rehabists seem

> to swear by 'em.

>

But they dont understand the importance of small differences in BP over the

long haul. Chances are they have never read how a device passes validation

and the fact that on the average 50% of readings will be off by at least 5 mm

Hg.

Recall that in many long term treatment studies, when BP was lower by 5 mm Hg

there were fewer deaths and HTN complicaitons than those who were treated to

5 mm higher.

> When they put one on me and do it right it matches my

> mercury nanometer.

>

> Dave

>

>

>

May your pressure be low!

Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD

Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc.

(sharedcareinc.com)

Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI

Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee

Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure

and the Physiology and History of Survival During

Hard Times and Heart Disease today.

**************

Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

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You are experiencing some of the joys! of high country living. It is dry

here which probably explains your thirst, cracking cuticles, and bleeding

nose. Salt water irrigation with a Netipot (1/2 t salt + a pinch of soda)

in a cup of cool water will help your nose. Be sure to stay well hydrated.

The dry air quickly evaporates water. That may even account for your salty

taste. Other things you're experiencing are likely your body's trying to

adapt to the elevation. " Altitude sickness " is something many experience

after being at high altitude for a few days. Because of that, sports teams

often like to come to Denver, play the game and get out before they get

sick. You should adjust after a few days. Try to have fun - and drink lots

of water.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of airlinerg

I have hyperaldosteronism. I am taking 100 mg of Inspra in the AM and

100 mg of Inspra in the PM. I also take omacor, lipitor, tricor,

cymbalta, and cardura. I am also using a multivitamin and coenzyme

Q10 and konsyl (psylium) for constipation.

I am staying at 8,000 feet where I will be until January 22, 2008,

skiing. I usually live at 0 feet elevation.

Here are my symptoms so far:

1. out of breath

2. more salt sensitive, constant salty taste in my mouth

3. craving for sugar and carbohydrates

4. very tired and fatigued easily

5. wake up several times at night from sleep

6. constantly thirsty

7. bleeding nose

8. muscle aches and knee aching

9. going to sleep 4 hours earlier than usual

10. need for frequent naps

11. frequent urination

12. more intolerance to heat

13. some cold intolerance

14. cracking of cuticles on hands

Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated.

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You know what your BP has been doing up there? Those portable Omrons

can be inaccurate, but the physiotherapists and exercise rehabists seem

to swear by 'em. When they put one on me and do it right it matches my

mercury nanometer.

Dave

airlinerg wrote:

>

> I have hyperaldosteronism. I am taking 100 mg of Inspra in the AM and

> 100 mg of Inspra in the PM. I also take omacor, lipitor, tricor,

> cymbalta, and cardura. I am also using a multivitamin and coenzyme

> Q10 and konsyl (psylium) for constipation.

>

> I am staying at 8,000 feet where I will be until January 22, 2008,

> skiing. I usually live at 0 feet elevation.

>

> Here are my symptoms so far:

>

> 1. out of breath

> 2. more salt sensitive, constant salty taste in my mouth

> 3. craving for sugar and carbohydrates

> 4. very tired and fatigued easily

> 5. wake up several times at night from sleep

> 6. constantly thirsty

> 7. bleeding nose

> 8. muscle aches and knee aching

> 9. going to sleep 4 hours earlier than usual

> 10. need for frequent naps

> 11. frequent urination

> 12. more intolerance to heat

> 13. some cold intolerance

> 14. cracking of cuticles on hands

>

> Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated.

>

> __._,_.__

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Last time at 13000 ft, Colorado, I felt a little " flighty " . Maybe call it a

little short of breath. It was very dry, I was cold and my BP was higher but not

that much. A hot tub was not the answer. It got me warm only to get cold again.

When I got up I ate bacon and eggs for breakfast - felt much better.

Turned the van heater up and headed South. Stopped at the chocolate store in

Mont something.

In the end I settled for a spot midway between Houston and Denver, in Texas.

I still eat eggs when I get cold - for the cholesterol. (seriously)

Last year, I was thinking of revisiting to see the dinosaur spot, now that I'm

fit enough to walk the 2 miles to the dig.

But I went to FL instead.

This year I'll pack lunch and dinner. There are no restaurants between here and

the Tropicana.

I really think the salt in foods has increased.

Regards

High Altitude Experience for airlinerg

(suggestions?)

I have hyperaldosteronism. I am taking 100 mg of Inspra in the AM and

100 mg of Inspra in the PM. I also take omacor, lipitor, tricor,

cymbalta, and cardura. I am also using a multivitamin and coenzyme

Q10 and konsyl (psylium) for constipation.

I am staying at 8,000 feet where I will be until January 22, 2008,

skiing. I usually live at 0 feet elevation.

Here are my symptoms so far:

1. out of breath

2. more salt sensitive, constant salty taste in my mouth

3. craving for sugar and carbohydrates

4. very tired and fatigued easily

5. wake up several times at night from sleep

6. constantly thirsty

7. bleeding nose

8. muscle aches and knee aching

9. going to sleep 4 hours earlier than usual

10. need for frequent naps

11. frequent urination

12. more intolerance to heat

13. some cold intolerance

14. cracking of cuticles on hands

Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated.

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I am not using a humidifier so far and don't use one with my cpap to

prevent bacterial buildup.

>

>

> In a message dated 1/12/08 8:49:22 AM, airlinerg@... writes:

>

>

> >

> > I have hyperaldosteronism. I am taking 100 mg of Inspra in the AM

and

> > 100 mg of Inspra in the PM. I also take omacor, lipitor, tricor,

> > cymbalta, and cardura. I am also using a multivitamin and coenzyme

> > Q10 and konsyl (psylium) for constipation.

> >

> > I am staying at 8,000 feet where I will be until January 22, 2008,

> > skiing. I usually live at 0 feet elevation.

> >

> > Here are my symptoms so far:

> >

> > 1. out of breath-at rest or with exericse-takes a day or two to

adapt.

> > 2. more salt sensitive, constant salty taste in my mouth

> > 3. craving for sugar and carbohydrates

> > 4. very tired and fatigued easily-again adapting to higher

altitude is most

> > likely phenomena

> > 5. wake up several times at night from sleep

> > 6. constantly thirsty-drink till you are not thirsty

> > 7. bleeding nose-dry? what is BP? Nasal CPAP?

> > 8. muscle aches and knee aching-new or old? Skied yet?

> > 9. going to sleep 4 hours earlier than usual

> > 10. need for frequent naps

> > 11. frequent urination

> > 12. more intolerance to heat

> > 13. some cold intolerance

> > 14. cracking of cuticles on hands

> >

> Very dry where you are. If you have cpap I would use humidifier

or

> humidifier in bed room.

> >

> > Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> May your pressure be low!

>

> Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD

> Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc.

> (sharedcareinc.com)

> Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col.

WI

> Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee

>

> Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure

> and the Physiology and History of Survival During

> Hard Times and Heart Disease today.

>

>

>

> **************

> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

>

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

>

>

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Thank you Val for the suggestions. Nose bleed is not as bad the 2nd

morning. I am drinking water and urinating alot. Do you live in

Denver?

>

> You are experiencing some of the joys! of high country living. It

is dry

> here which probably explains your thirst, cracking cuticles, and

bleeding

> nose. Salt water irrigation with a Netipot (1/2 t salt + a pinch

of soda)

> in a cup of cool water will help your nose. Be sure to stay well

hydrated.

> The dry air quickly evaporates water. That may even account for

your salty

> taste. Other things you're experiencing are likely your body's

trying to

> adapt to the elevation. " Altitude sickness " is something many

experience

> after being at high altitude for a few days. Because of that,

sports teams

> often like to come to Denver, play the game and get out before they

get

> sick. You should adjust after a few days. Try to have fun - and

drink lots

> of water.

>

> Val

>

> From: hyperaldosteronism

> [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of airlinerg

>

>

> I have hyperaldosteronism. I am taking 100 mg of Inspra in the AM

and

> 100 mg of Inspra in the PM. I also take omacor, lipitor, tricor,

> cymbalta, and cardura. I am also using a multivitamin and coenzyme

> Q10 and konsyl (psylium) for constipation.

>

> I am staying at 8,000 feet where I will be until January 22, 2008,

> skiing. I usually live at 0 feet elevation.

>

> Here are my symptoms so far:

>

> 1. out of breath

> 2. more salt sensitive, constant salty taste in my mouth

> 3. craving for sugar and carbohydrates

> 4. very tired and fatigued easily

> 5. wake up several times at night from sleep

> 6. constantly thirsty

> 7. bleeding nose

> 8. muscle aches and knee aching

> 9. going to sleep 4 hours earlier than usual

> 10. need for frequent naps

> 11. frequent urination

> 12. more intolerance to heat

> 13. some cold intolerance

> 14. cracking of cuticles on hands

>

> Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated.

>

>

>

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I do feel flighty in the high altitude especially about 10,000 feet.

I have been eating at least 2 eggs each day - thanks for the

suggestion. I am trying Turkey Burgers for lunch instead of any sweet

things and that helped keep up the energy for me. Thanks for the

suggestion.

>

> Last time at 13000 ft, Colorado, I felt a little " flighty " . Maybe

call it a little short of breath. It was very dry, I was cold and my

BP was higher but not that much. A hot tub was not the answer. It got

me warm only to get cold again. When I got up I ate bacon and eggs

for breakfast - felt much better.

>

> Turned the van heater up and headed South. Stopped at the chocolate

store in Mont something.

> In the end I settled for a spot midway between Houston and Denver,

in Texas.

> I still eat eggs when I get cold - for the cholesterol. (seriously)

>

> Last year, I was thinking of revisiting to see the dinosaur spot,

now that I'm fit enough to walk the 2 miles to the dig.

> But I went to FL instead.

> This year I'll pack lunch and dinner. There are no restaurants

between here and the Tropicana.

> I really think the salt in foods has increased.

>

> Regards

>

> High Altitude Experience for

airlinerg (suggestions?)

>

>

> I have hyperaldosteronism. I am taking 100 mg of Inspra in the AM

and

> 100 mg of Inspra in the PM. I also take omacor, lipitor, tricor,

> cymbalta, and cardura. I am also using a multivitamin and

coenzyme

> Q10 and konsyl (psylium) for constipation.

>

> I am staying at 8,000 feet where I will be until January 22,

2008,

> skiing. I usually live at 0 feet elevation.

>

> Here are my symptoms so far:

>

> 1. out of breath

> 2. more salt sensitive, constant salty taste in my mouth

> 3. craving for sugar and carbohydrates

> 4. very tired and fatigued easily

> 5. wake up several times at night from sleep

> 6. constantly thirsty

> 7. bleeding nose

> 8. muscle aches and knee aching

> 9. going to sleep 4 hours earlier than usual

> 10. need for frequent naps

> 11. frequent urination

> 12. more intolerance to heat

> 13. some cold intolerance

> 14. cracking of cuticles on hands

>

> Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I have not had my blood pressure checked yet, and did not bring my

portable. If I check it, I will let you know that results. Thanks

Dave,

Airlinerg

> >

> > I have hyperaldosteronism. I am taking 100 mg of Inspra in the AM

and

> > 100 mg of Inspra in the PM. I also take omacor, lipitor, tricor,

> > cymbalta, and cardura. I am also using a multivitamin and coenzyme

> > Q10 and konsyl (psylium) for constipation.

> >

> > I am staying at 8,000 feet where I will be until January 22, 2008,

> > skiing. I usually live at 0 feet elevation.

> >

> > Here are my symptoms so far:

> >

> > 1. out of breath

> > 2. more salt sensitive, constant salty taste in my mouth

> > 3. craving for sugar and carbohydrates

> > 4. very tired and fatigued easily

> > 5. wake up several times at night from sleep

> > 6. constantly thirsty

> > 7. bleeding nose

> > 8. muscle aches and knee aching

> > 9. going to sleep 4 hours earlier than usual

> > 10. need for frequent naps

> > 11. frequent urination

> > 12. more intolerance to heat

> > 13. some cold intolerance

> > 14. cracking of cuticles on hands

> >

> > Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated.

> >

> > __._,_.__

>

>

>

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