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The DOCband and STARband are very similar products that work in the same way.

They are both dynamic. The DOCband is made by Cranial Technologies and they

do nothing but make bands for babies. The STARband is made by Orthomerica and

they are used by independent orthotists who may (or may not) make other

products. The main thing here is to KNOW your ortho if you decide on the

STARband. That fact is that the DOC people really know their stuff and there

is not a lot of " chance " using that band. However, the STARband in the hands

of an experienced and skilled professional can be as effective as the

DOCband. There is also the fact that you don't usually have to travel as far

for the STARband because you can usually find one locally. The cost is also a

factor - the STARband can sometimes cost half the amount of the DOCband.

Check out www.plagiocephaly.org/support for a comparison chart of the

different band and helmet choices.

Good luck with your decision and let us know how things are going.

Marci (Mom to )

Oklahoma

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Well, Marci's great explanations pretty much sums it up! I won't

waste my " breath " re-typing her explanation! :)

Debbie Abby's mom DOCgrad

MI

> The DOCband and STARband are very similar products that work in the

same way.

> They are both dynamic. The DOCband is made by Cranial Technologies

and they

> do nothing but make bands for babies. The STARband is made by

Orthomerica and

> they are used by independent orthotists who may (or may not) make

other

> products. The main thing here is to KNOW your ortho if you decide

on the

> STARband. That fact is that the DOC people really know their stuff

and there

> is not a lot of " chance " using that band. However, the STARband in

the hands

> of an experienced and skilled professional can be as effective as

the

> DOCband. There is also the fact that you don't usually have to

travel as far

> for the STARband because you can usually find one locally. The cost

is also a

> factor - the STARband can sometimes cost half the amount of the

DOCband.

> Check out www.plagiocephaly.org/support for a comparison chart of

the

> different band and helmet choices.

>

> Good luck with your decision and let us know how things are going.

>

> Marci (Mom to )

> Oklahoma

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Thank you, everyone, for taking the time to answer my question. I

live in Syracuse, NY, but travel to Rochester, NY for my son, who

also has a shunt for hydrocephalus. If anyone knows a good

orthotist, please let me know.

Also, due to " high demand since FDA approval " , the Orthomerica

website says they will only accept positive molds instead of

negatives. What does this mean, and does it mean what it sounds

like....are they compromising quality due to high demand?

> > The DOCband and STARband are very similar products that work in

the

> same way.

> > They are both dynamic. The DOCband is made by Cranial

Technologies

> and they

> > do nothing but make bands for babies. The STARband is made by

> Orthomerica and

> > they are used by independent orthotists who may (or may not) make

> other

> > products. The main thing here is to KNOW your ortho if you decide

> on the

> > STARband. That fact is that the DOC people really know their

stuff

> and there

> > is not a lot of " chance " using that band. However, the STARband

in

> the hands

> > of an experienced and skilled professional can be as effective as

> the

> > DOCband. There is also the fact that you don't usually have to

> travel as far

> > for the STARband because you can usually find one locally. The

cost

> is also a

> > factor - the STARband can sometimes cost half the amount of the

> DOCband.

> > Check out www.plagiocephaly.org/support for a comparison chart of

> the

> > different band and helmet choices.

> >

> > Good luck with your decision and let us know how things are going.

> >

> > Marci (Mom to )

> > Oklahoma

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Sue,

The only thing I can add to those great posts you've already received is, if

you are going with the STARband- I would request to see before and after

pics, and phone numbers for references (parents that have used them) since I

understand that different orthotists are used. Ask the orthotist lots of

questions about experience, availability, rate of success, etc. If you don't

get a good vibe, go with your gut. Good luck and please keep us posted!

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Also, due to " high demand since FDA approval " , the Orthomerica

> website says they will only accept positive molds instead of

> negatives. What does this mean, and does it mean what it sounds

> like....are they compromising quality due to high demand?

Hi Sue,

It was nice chatting with you last night, for however brief it might

have been. In my experience, I don't think that Orthomerica has put

quantity before quality. I don't know the difference between the two

types of molds, so I don't know if one is better than the other.

Maybe one of our resident experts could chime in here. I just want

to stress that the key to having success with any product, whether it

be the DOCband, STARband, or a locally made helmet, depends on the

experience knowledge of the orthotist. What ever product you do

decide to go with, interview the person who will be doing your son's

band. Good luck to you Sue, and please keep us posted!

Niki

Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads)

Phila., PA

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Sue,

I knew our resident experts would come through when needed. Here is

some information I just received from Orthomerica regarding positive

and negative molds:

A

negative mold is the empty shell (or cast) as it is removed from the

infant's

head. That shell is filled with liquid plaster of paris to create a

positive

mold (or model) of the same head. The positive model is then

modified

to

create a more symmetrical head shape, and the cranial orthosis is

made

from

that final modified positive mold. (I hope that makes sense!)

So it seems to me that accepting only positive molds, they are

cutting down the time a patient will have to wait for their band.

I hope this has helped clarify things a a bit for you, and reassured

you some that the quality of their product isn't being compromised.

Niki

Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads)

Phila., PA

> > > The DOCband and STARband are very similar products that work in

> the

> > same way.

> > > They are both dynamic. The DOCband is made by Cranial

> Technologies

> > and they

> > > do nothing but make bands for babies. The STARband is made by

> > Orthomerica and

> > > they are used by independent orthotists who may (or may not)

make

> > other

> > > products. The main thing here is to KNOW your ortho if you

decide

> > on the

> > > STARband. That fact is that the DOC people really know their

> stuff

> > and there

> > > is not a lot of " chance " using that band. However, the STARband

> in

> > the hands

> > > of an experienced and skilled professional can be as effective

as

> > the

> > > DOCband. There is also the fact that you don't usually have to

> > travel as far

> > > for the STARband because you can usually find one locally. The

> cost

> > is also a

> > > factor - the STARband can sometimes cost half the amount of the

> > DOCband.

> > > Check out www.plagiocephaly.org/support for a comparison chart

of

> > the

> > > different band and helmet choices.

> > >

> > > Good luck with your decision and let us know how things are

going.

> > >

> > > Marci (Mom to )

> > > Oklahoma

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Thank you. I've decided on the STAR Band after speaking at length to the orthotist today. I also spoke with Davin at Orthomerica (who actually makes the bands), and he raved about my orthotist, in fact, naming him prior to me telling him the area I live in!

Thanks again for reassuring me!

-Sue Ellen

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Also, due to "high demand since FDA approval", the Orthomerica > website says they will only accept positive molds instead of > negatives. What does this mean, and does it mean what it sounds > like....are they compromising quality due to high demand? Hi Sue,It was nice chatting with you last night, for however brief it might have been. In my experience, I don't think that Orthomerica has put quantity before quality. I don't know the difference between the two types of molds, so I don't know if one is better than the other. Maybe one of our resident experts could chime in here. I just want to stress that the key to having success with any product, whether it be the DOCband, STARband, or a locally made helmet, depends on the experience knowledge of the orthotist. What ever product you do decide to go with, interview the person who will be doing your son's band. Good luck to you Sue, and please keep us posted!NikiKaylie & Danny (STAR grads)Phila., PAFor more plagio info

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Sue Ellen:

Good luck with the STARband.....have you made a casting appt yet??

let us know when that will be!

Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad

MI

> Also, due to " high demand since FDA approval " , the Orthomerica

> > website says they will only accept positive molds instead of

> > negatives. What does this mean, and does it mean what it

sounds

> > like....are they compromising quality due to high demand?

>

>

> Hi Sue,

> It was nice chatting with you last night, for however brief it

might

> have been. In my experience, I don't think that Orthomerica has

put

> quantity before quality. I don't know the difference between the

two

> types of molds, so I don't know if one is better than the other.

> Maybe one of our resident experts could chime in here. I just

want

> to stress that the key to having success with any product,

whether it

> be the DOCband, STARband, or a locally made helmet, depends on

the

> experience knowledge of the orthotist. What ever product you do

> decide to go with, interview the person who will be doing your

son's

> band. Good luck to you Sue, and please keep us posted!

>

> Niki

> Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads)

> Phila., PA

>

>

>

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Casting for the STAR band is now done in what is supposedly a more accurate way, according to both the orthotist and Davin, the gentleman at Orthomerica that actually makes the helmet from the scans or casts.....the STAR Scanner. You can read about it and see impressions made with the scanner on their website. It is similar to a 3D CAT Scan image, which is extremely precise, and in fact, was used to determine that my son did NOT have cranio synostosis! (Or, if you prefer, you can get the old, tried-and-true method of the casting)!

As long as the insurance pre-authorizes by Wed. of next week as expected after our conversation today, my son will be "scanned" on the 31st, at 3 months and 6 days old!

Thanks, everyone, for your guidance and support!!!!

-Sue Ellen

Re: Difference between DOC and STAR????

Sue Ellen:Good luck with the STARband.....have you made a casting appt yet?? let us know when that will be!Debbie Abby's mom DOCGradMI> Also, due to "high demand since FDA approval", the Orthomerica > > website says they will only accept positive molds instead of > > negatives. What does this mean, and does it mean what it sounds > > like....are they compromising quality due to high demand? > > > Hi Sue,> It was nice chatting with you last night, for however brief it might > have been. In my experience, I don't think that Orthomerica has put > quantity before quality. I don't know the difference between the two > types of molds, so I don't know if one is better than the other. > Maybe one of our resident experts could chime in here. I just want > to stress that the key to having success with any product, whether it > be the DOCband, STARband, or a locally made helmet, depends on the > experience knowledge of the orthotist. What ever product you do > decide to go with, interview the person who will be doing your son's > band. Good luck to you Sue, and please keep us posted!> > Niki> Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads)> Phila., PA> > >

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Sue Ellen,

I am so happy that you were able to make a decision, and that you

have been reassured about the orthotist you'll be using. I didn't

realize that the STARscanner was available in New York too, that is

wonderful! I really wish something like that was around when we

Kaylie and Danny were getting banded! Let us know when your

appointment is, and how it goes. Good luck!

Niki

Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads)

Phila., PA

> Also, due to " high demand since FDA approval " , the Orthomerica

> > website says they will only accept positive molds instead of

> > negatives. What does this mean, and does it mean what it

sounds

> > like....are they compromising quality due to high demand?

>

>

> Hi Sue,

> It was nice chatting with you last night, for however brief it

might

> have been. In my experience, I don't think that Orthomerica has

put

> quantity before quality. I don't know the difference between the

two

> types of molds, so I don't know if one is better than the other.

> Maybe one of our resident experts could chime in here. I just

want

> to stress that the key to having success with any product,

whether it

> be the DOCband, STARband, or a locally made helmet, depends on

the

> experience knowledge of the orthotist. What ever product you do

> decide to go with, interview the person who will be doing your

son's

> band. Good luck to you Sue, and please keep us posted!

>

> Niki

> Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads)

> Phila., PA

>

>

>

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Sue Ellen -

What great news for you! An awesome orthotist, good price and no

casting! I bet you slept well last night!

Is the orthotist in Rochester? If so, would you mind sharing the

name? My husband is from Buffalo. Since a ton of people in Buffalo

know about Dane's plagio journey, I bet someday we are asked " Where

do I go? "

TIA!

Dane's Mom DOC Grad

> Casting for the STAR band is now done in what is supposedly a more

accurate way, according to both the orthotist and Davin, the

gentleman at Orthomerica that actually makes the helmet from the

scans or casts.....the STAR Scanner. You can read about it and see

impressions made with the scanner on their website. It is similar

to a 3D CAT Scan image, which is extremely precise, and in fact, was

used to determine that my son did NOT have cranio synostosis! (Or,

if you prefer, you can get the old, tried-and-true method of the

casting)!

>

> As long as the insurance pre-authorizes by Wed. of next week as

expected after our conversation today, my son will be " scanned " on

the 31st, at 3 months and 6 days old!

>

> Thanks, everyone, for your guidance and support!!!!

>

> -Sue Ellen

> Re: Difference between DOC and STAR????

> >

> >

> > --- In Plagiocephaly@y..., " sueellenholmes " <sholmes1@t...>

wrote:

> > Also, due to " high demand since FDA approval " , the

Orthomerica

> > > website says they will only accept positive molds instead

of

> > > negatives. What does this mean, and does it mean what it

> sounds

> > > like....are they compromising quality due to high

demand?

> >

> >

> > Hi Sue,

> > It was nice chatting with you last night, for however brief

it

> might

> > have been. In my experience, I don't think that Orthomerica

has

> put

> > quantity before quality. I don't know the difference

between the

> two

> > types of molds, so I don't know if one is better than the

other.

> > Maybe one of our resident experts could chime in here. I

just

> want

> > to stress that the key to having success with any product,

> whether it

> > be the DOCband, STARband, or a locally made helmet, depends

on

> the

> > experience knowledge of the orthotist. What ever product

you do

> > decide to go with, interview the person who will be doing

your

> son's

> > band. Good luck to you Sue, and please keep us posted!

> >

> > Niki

> > Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads)

> > Phila., PA

> >

> >

> >

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Sue Ellen,

I'm glad you have arrived at a decision and seem to be hooked up with a

really good ortho. That makes all the difference!!!

Keep us posted on what happens next!

Marci (mom to )

Oklahoma

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