Guest guest Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 , I can TOTALLY relate to your frustration. I can't eat ANY fruit, so I have learned to make decent subs for ice cream over the years. My all time favorite is pumpkin pie ice cream (if she can do pumpkin?) I just mix organic cooked pumpkin (I roast whole homegrown pumpkins in my solar oven, then freeze it-super easy, always have it on hand) I sweeten mine with agave nectar (low glycemic index), but you could use stevia, bit of rice or nut milk, and a dash of pumpkin pie spice. We also make chocolate ice cream, using real cocoa powder (organic) and again, agave and rice milk (stevia fine here too) You can also make a wonderful ice cream using cashews, mild white beans (great northerns are very creamy and lucious as an ice cream) or avocado. Just get creative, and you will find that most anything can become a wonderful sorbet or ice cream! We even make a cucumber sorbet in the summers that is delightful! Good luck! > > Hi All, > > My daughter was recently diagnosed with fructose malabsorption. It means no fructose for her....which is in everything. We are in the elimination phase and will then add veggies and fruits back one at a time to check her tolerance levels, and of course her class is having a rootbeer float party next week. (why do all the " awards " in public schools have to center around food!! So frustrating!)I can get a rootbeer sweetened with stevia, but having trouble with the ice cream. She can not have any added sugar right now. > Does anyone have any ideas for trying to make an ice cream that does not have any fruit or veggie in it? I've been racking my brain, but it seems like my Vitamix might not be useful. :-( Unless just ice, milk, vanilla, and stevia? (that just came to me as I was typing the word Vitamix LOL) Anyone tried it before? I'll be experimenting tomorrow. My other thought was to try making a vanilla chia pudding and freezing it. Also, if anyone has experience with fructose malabsorption, I would love to hear any tips/recipes you could share. This seems to be a very limiting diet and she is having a hard time with it. I'm having a hard time figuring out what to feed her! > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 I actually hit the send button before I finished answering, lol. I have extreme sensitivity to salicylates and amines, which are in everything, and true allergy to wheat, soy, corn, eggs and nuts...so I can totally relate to her limited diet. I am happy to help with suggestions of things you can make for her. I have become quite creative at learning to make do with what I CAN have, rather than to focus on what I can't, so happy to give you subsitutions as needed. There is no need for her to go without good food and lovely treats-just learn to think outside the box and use foods in ways you would never have thought of. She will be healthier for it in the long run! My 17 year old daughter grew up on our strange foods, and I admire that she would RATHER eat bean or pumpkin based ice cream, rather than Haagen Daaz, lol. > > Hi All, > > My daughter was recently diagnosed with fructose malabsorption. It means no fructose for her....which is in everything. We are in the elimination phase and will then add veggies and fruits back one at a time to check her tolerance levels, and of course her class is having a rootbeer float party next week. (why do all the " awards " in public schools have to center around food!! So frustrating!)I can get a rootbeer sweetened with stevia, but having trouble with the ice cream. She can not have any added sugar right now. > Does anyone have any ideas for trying to make an ice cream that does not have any fruit or veggie in it? I've been racking my brain, but it seems like my Vitamix might not be useful. :-( Unless just ice, milk, vanilla, and stevia? (that just came to me as I was typing the word Vitamix LOL) Anyone tried it before? I'll be experimenting tomorrow. My other thought was to try making a vanilla chia pudding and freezing it. Also, if anyone has experience with fructose malabsorption, I would love to hear any tips/recipes you could share. This seems to be a very limiting diet and she is having a hard time with it. I'm having a hard time figuring out what to feed her! > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Wow ,Those sound like some great ideas! I ,for one ,would love to hear more. I have a real problem with fruit and sugar also. , I can offer something in the way of pie,if you like. I make a pie out of butternut squash that is pretty darn good. I roast the squash and then add cashew milk and stevia along with either cocoa powder or go without the cocoa and just use pumpkin pie spice or apple pie spice. I have even added chia gel for extra smoothness and protein. Bake at 355 for 55 min. I eat them every week now to calm my sweet tooth! In His Grace…Robbie From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 9:12 PM Subject: Re: non fruit ice cream I actually hit the send button before I finished answering, lol. I have extreme sensitivity to salicylates and amines, which are in everything, and true allergy to wheat, soy, corn, eggs and nuts...so I can totally relate to her limited diet. I am happy to help with suggestions of things you can make for her. I have become quite creative at learning to make do with what I CAN have, rather than to focus on what I can't, so happy to give you subsitutions as needed. There is no need for her to go without good food and lovely treats-just learn to think outside the box and use foods in ways you would never have thought of. She will be healthier for it in the long run! My 17 year old daughter grew up on our strange foods, and I admire that she would RATHER eat bean or pumpkin based ice cream, rather than Haagen Daaz, lol.>> Hi All,> > My daughter was recently diagnosed with fructose malabsorption. It means no fructose for her....which is in everything. We are in the elimination phase and will then add veggies and fruits back one at a time to check her tolerance levels, and of course her class is having a rootbeer float party next week. (why do all the " awards " in public schools have to center around food!! So frustrating!)I can get a rootbeer sweetened with stevia, but having trouble with the ice cream. She can not have any added sugar right now.> Does anyone have any ideas for trying to make an ice cream that does not have any fruit or veggie in it? I've been racking my brain, but it seems like my Vitamix might not be useful. :-( Unless just ice, milk, vanilla, and stevia? (that just came to me as I was typing the word Vitamix LOL) Anyone tried it before? I'll be experimenting tomorrow. My other thought was to try making a vanilla chia pudding and freezing it. Also, if anyone has experience with fructose malabsorption, I would love to hear any tips/recipes you could share. This seems to be a very limiting diet and she is having a hard time with it. I'm having a hard time figuring out what to feed her!> > Thanks,> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 I usually eat just cream over frozen fruit. Without the fruit you might need to add something to get the right consistency. Vanilla extract is very strong alcohol. Worse than sugar. All I can think of is maybe an egg whipped into the frozen cream. I absolutely hate soy. Silk makes me sick; but could that help? Blessings. Ann On Jan 7, 2012 7:59 PM, " " <calster@...> wrote: Hi All, My daughter was recently diagnosed with fructose malabsorption. It means no fructose for her....which is in everything. We are in the elimination phase and will then add veggies and fruits back one at a time to check her tolerance levels, and of course her class is having a rootbeer float party next week. (why do all the " awards " in public schools have to center around food!! So frustrating!)I can get a rootbeer sweetened with stevia, but having trouble with the ice cream. She can not have any added sugar right now. Does anyone have any ideas for trying to make an ice cream that does not have any fruit or veggie in it? I've been racking my brain, but it seems like my Vitamix might not be useful. :-( Unless just ice, milk, vanilla, and stevia? (that just came to me as I was typing the word Vitamix LOL) Anyone tried it before? I'll be experimenting tomorrow. My other thought was to try making a vanilla chia pudding and freezing it. Also, if anyone has experience with fructose malabsorption, I would love to hear any tips/recipes you could share. This seems to be a very limiting diet and she is having a hard time with it. I'm having a hard time figuring out what to feed her! Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Pumpkin is on the OK list for now, and I think she would like it with a little cinnamon and vanilla. (We seem to using that in just about everything she eats.)Agave is out for now due to the fructose. I guess it's pretty high. I know the raw organic is safer/better, but it still wouldn't work for her. Any fructose at all sits in her gut and ferments. I found a pure stevia with no added fillers. Inulin is a big no-no for her too. > > , I can TOTALLY relate to your frustration. I can't eat ANY fruit, so I have learned to make decent subs for ice cream over the years. My all time favorite is pumpkin pie ice cream (if she can do pumpkin?) I just mix organic cooked pumpkin (I roast whole homegrown pumpkins in my solar oven, then freeze it-super easy, always have it on hand) I sweeten mine with agave nectar (low glycemic index), but you could use stevia, bit of rice or nut milk, and a dash of pumpkin pie spice. We also make chocolate ice cream, using real cocoa powder (organic) and again, agave and rice milk (stevia fine here too) You can also make a wonderful ice cream using cashews, mild white beans (great northerns are very creamy and lucious as an ice cream) or avocado. Just get creative, and you will find that most anything can become a wonderful sorbet or ice cream! We even make a cucumber sorbet in the summers that is delightful! Good luck! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 , thank you so much for your input! I would appreciate any food suggestions that you have. Feel free to email me off group if necessary. The salicylates and amines sound familiar. In my research on fructose malabsorption, I've found that many people with it also have salicylate/amine sensitivities. I have it sitting in the back of my mind in case it is also an issue with her. She has to avoid anything with fructose or fructans. It's crazy, because it seems like everything I've done in the past year to improve our diets has actually been counterproductive for her! We went gluten free thinking that was her problem. I bought the VitaMix and a dehydrator to make healthier foods. Started using raw honey, coconut flour, eating more fruits, veggies, etc. These things are FULL of fructose and fructan. Gluten free did help her a little, because wheat is full of fructan. (you probably know all of that!)Even probiotics are bad and I've been giving them to her thinking I was helping! I know it doesn't make sense. Here is what happens. The unabsorbed fructose travels to the large intestine (it is supposed to be absorbed in the sm. intestine.)It sits in the large intestine and begins fermenting. ANY bacteria- good or bad-in the gut will feed off that fermentation. Or the fructose feeds off the bacteria...have myself confused at the moment. Either way, you end up with more fermentation. The fermentation creates hydrogen and methane. Hydrogen and methane in the body= not good. It explains the down right HORRIBLE breath she has had her whole life. (I kept telling dr's that something wasn't right...there has to be something going wrong in her digestive system, but I was always blown off or told to brush her tonque better.) We are focusing on an elimination phase to get her on track. Then we will add things back one at a time and wait at least a week. It can take up to 4 days before we see any symptoms. Another challenge is determining how much of something she can handle. She may be able to tolerate 3 strawberries one day a week, or 3 strawberries everyday. It's going to be a long trial and error period! For now, she is eating white rice (brown has fructan)some grains (amaranth, buckwheat, millet, quinoa, teff,) eggs, unprocessed meats, seeds (chia, sunflower, flax, sesame, pumpkin,)limited dairy, limited veggies (bok choy, spinach, white potato- spaced out every other day,) and herb/spices (cinnamon, nutmeg, vanilla, mustard powder, parsley, basil, cilantro, stevia.)All beans are out for now. I think I remember a video you posted on how to make rice crackers. I'm going to make her some of those. Most of what I find in the stores have fillers she can't have, or are from brown rice. Thanks for listening!!! I pray that one day my kids will be at the point where they would rather have a bean/pumpkin based ice cream rather than Hagen Daz! > > I actually hit the send button before I finished answering, lol. I have extreme sensitivity to salicylates and amines, which are in everything, and true allergy to wheat, soy, corn, eggs and nuts...so I can totally relate to her limited diet. I am happy to help with suggestions of things you can make for her. I have become quite creative at learning to make do with what I CAN have, rather than to focus on what I can't, so happy to give you subsitutions as needed. There is no need for her to go without good food and lovely treats-just learn to think outside the box and use foods in ways you would never have thought of. She will be healthier for it in the long run! My 17 year old daughter grew up on our strange foods, and I admire that she would RATHER eat bean or pumpkin based ice cream, rather than Haagen Daaz, lol. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 That sounds yummy! She can have pumpkin right now, so sqash might work. If not I'll be making it once we're past the elimination phase. I like the idea of adding chia seeds. I try to add them whenever I can! > > , I can offer something in the way of pie,if you like. I make a pie out of butternut squash that is pretty darn good. I roast the squash and then add cashew milk and stevia along with either cocoa powder or go without the cocoa and just use pumpkin pie spice or apple pie spice. I have even added chia gel for extra smoothness and protein. Bake at 355 for 55 min. I eat them every week now to calm my sweet tooth! > In His Grace. > > Robbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 I will do that. I was thinking as I was typing that I was getting way off topic for the group. Thanks! > > , may I invite you to join my allergy group at foodallergynetwork/?yguid=43799882 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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