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Yanni,

I have been through a lot in my life and if I told you just the last 10 years,

you would find it unbelievable.

I have always tried to have a positive outlook on anything and do believe that

things happen for a reason.

What I do not understand is how a " Company " or workplace can sit by while

someone that worked for them loyally for years is trying very hard to live.

Because of their practice of ignoring the health affects of mold or anything

else in the " air " , innocent people suffer.

I still try to have a positive outlook even though I can not stand long, sit

long, lay down long, breathe long, eat much, concentrate on anything long, hurt

all the time, and the list continues.

I am positive that they will be held accountable for what has happened. It may

take awhile but right now all I have is time. Since I have no money, food,

phone, gas or medications....ALL I HAVE IS TIME TO THINK OF THIS.

Yes...I am positive that I am sick and do not have any help except to get the

IVIG's every 4 weeks just to keep me alive. I am positive that I have to wear a

mask where ever I go because anything will make me sicker or kill me.

Yes....I am positive and thank GOD that I am still here today but the suffering

has got to stop. Not just for me but for the thousands of innocent people that

have had this awful illness come upon them.

My voice will be heard and so will the members of this group that sent their

story's to me. I will do everything I can to make sure that it will be a "

Positive " outcome for everyone.

Yanni, I am very glad that you have come above all this and are doing better but

I am not there yet. I pray every day to feel like you do. I am positive that I

will be some day but till then, please excuse those of us who have not arrived

to that level yet.

Sincerely,

Marcie

drzack52 <drzack@...> wrote:

Dear Members,

I have been following your posts and reading all of the discussions

on this board for quite some time. I know that some my take offense

at what I'm about to say, but I'm ready to take that chance.

I am truly sorry for all of the serious medical conditions that

everyone is facing. As you know, I am also suffering from life-

threatening exposure to stachybotris, chaetomium,

aflatoxins,satratoxins, and secondary exposure to Methamphetamines,

Heroin and Cocaine. Not only did the house have these toxic Molds,

but it had also been used as both a Crack House and Meth Lab. I

nearly lost my life. In spite of it all, I am still here.

One of the ways I have found to get myself better, besides diet and

exercise, is to always have a positive atitude and not focus on my

disability or illness. I hardly ever talk about it anymore to anyone,

and I'm finding that the symptoms when they do occur are not as bad.

That, coupled with a strong faith in God is what has kept me going.

Recently, I have read many stories about people who have gone through

numerous trials in their life as well as crippling and debilitating

illnesses. One of the themes which constantly appeared throughout all

of these people's stories was that they always kept a positive

attitude and did not focus on their illnesses by constantly giving

it " voice " . That is what helped them to beat the odds and remain

alive.

I have gotten to the point where I too have found that if I do not

discuss or talk about my illness, but focus on the positive things in

life( that I am alive) and withmy strong faith in God, I am and will

be able to continue and survice and enjoy my life. As a former

educator with over 20 years working with all ages- young children to

adult learners, I always stressed in developing in them a positive

mental attitude for success. I am now applying what I said to myself-

and I am seeing results.

Yanni

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Thanks Rosie.....you were thinking clearer than I was. :-)

Marcie

<toria@...> wrote:

GOOD EMAIL, ROSIE.

VICTORIA

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>>

>> While I think it is simply wonderful to keep a positive attitude, it

>> won't get you out of Mold Hell and not talking about mold or

>> focusing on it doesn't result in your own education or that of

>> others.

>>

>> Virtually everyone around me told me to " quit obsessing over mold "

>> and just " beat your illness using the power of the mind " .

>>

>> I was also told to just put my fate in God's hands and trust that

>> things would turn out OK.

>> My response was " Isn't it said that God helps those who help

>> themselves? I'm not going to sit here and wait for whatever happens

>> if I keep getting worse and hope that God will step in "

>>

>> And as far as my good friends, families and doctors assertions

>> of " mold obsession " , if I hadn't been so " obsessed " , I never would

>> have discovered the characteristics of mold plumes and mycotoxin

>> exposure which allowed me to devise an avoidance strategy which lets

>> me KICK ASS on a problem that used to kick MINE.

>> I like to tell people that having a BAD ATTITUDE and OBSESSIVE

>> NATURE is the very reason why I am out mountain climbing

>> while " happy smiley people " are still being beat to death by mold.

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Very well said. Stay " MAD AT MOLD " and hopefully we can all overcome this

illness and our feeling of ignored by the " companies " . ( Just hope the

" companies " have a positive attitude.) LOL!

Marcie kmoldwarrior

<erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

While I think it is simply wonderful to keep a positive attitude, it

won't get you out of Mold Hell and not talking about mold or

focusing on it doesn't result in your own education or that of

others.

Virtually everyone around me told me to " quit obsessing over mold "

and just " beat your illness using the power of the mind " .

I was also told to just put my fate in God's hands and trust that

things would turn out OK.

My response was " Isn't it said that God helps those who help

themselves? I'm not going to sit here and wait for whatever happens

if I keep getting worse and hope that God will step in "

And as far as my good friends, families and doctors assertions

of " mold obsession " , if I hadn't been so " obsessed " , I never would

have discovered the characteristics of mold plumes and mycotoxin

exposure which allowed me to devise an avoidance strategy which lets

me KICK ASS on a problem that used to kick MINE.

I like to tell people that having a BAD ATTITUDE and OBSESSIVE

NATURE is the very reason why I am out mountain climbing

while " happy smiley people " are still being beat to death by mold.

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Great post, Marcie. I agree with you--there are those on this list who HAVE

recovered, & I'm truly glad for them. However: those people who have

recovered (partly, or mostly) have to remember that there are those of us on

the list who will NEVER be better. Our health & our lives have been

destroyed by all this, & NO medicine will make us 100% well, ever again.

That's part of the reason I'm SO angry. Despite any methods I try to do,

for example, its never going to re-myelinate my spinal cord. It's never

going to give me back my bowel & bladder control. It's never going to

prevent me from having future surgeries that are necessary, for me to

continue the " lifestyle " I now have. (Which is FAR from good--I've already

had 3 surgeries since my onset of this illness!).

Each and EVERY step I take I have to take with a conscious effort...to avoid

tripping over my own toes, & so I don't fall down. Tell me, somebody--how

do you have a totally POSITIVE outlook, when you can't even walk? When you

have pain 24/7, & many other issues?

Don't get me wrong, everybody on here: I am NOT complaining. I've come a

VERY long way, for a gal who was never supposed to walk again. I have a

strong faith in God also, & I know He allowed me to become this sick so I

could attempt to educate others--but at the same time, I want MY life back!

It's true that there are many sick people on this site. Just remember:

some are far sicker than others, & it's not up to ANY of us to judge others.

Take care, all, & God bless,

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> Yanni,

>

> I have been through a lot in my life and if I told you just the last 10

> years, you would find it unbelievable.

> I have always tried to have a positive outlook on anything and do believe

> that things happen for a reason.

> What I do not understand is how a " Company " or workplace can sit by while

> someone that worked for them loyally for years is trying very hard to

> live. Because of their practice of ignoring the health affects of mold or

> anything else in the " air " , innocent people suffer.

> I still try to have a positive outlook even though I can not stand long,

> sit long, lay down long, breathe long, eat much, concentrate on anything

> long, hurt all the time, and the list continues.

> I am positive that they will be held accountable for what has happened. It

> may take awhile but right now all I have is time. Since I have no money,

> food, phone, gas or medications....ALL I HAVE IS TIME TO THINK OF THIS.

> Yes...I am positive that I am sick and do not have any help except to get

> the IVIG's every 4 weeks just to keep me alive. I am positive that I have

> to wear a mask where ever I go because anything will make me sicker or

> kill me.

> Yes....I am positive and thank GOD that I am still here today but the

> suffering has got to stop. Not just for me but for the thousands of

> innocent people that have had this awful illness come upon them.

> My voice will be heard and so will the members of this group that sent

> their story's to me. I will do everything I can to make sure that it will

> be a " Positive " outcome for everyone.

> Yanni, I am very glad that you have come above all this and are doing

> better but I am not there yet. I pray every day to feel like you do. I am

> positive that I will be some day but till then, please excuse those of us

> who have not arrived to that level yet.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Marcie

>

>

> drzack52 <drzack@...> wrote:

> Dear Members,

> I have been following your posts and reading all of the discussions

> on this board for quite some time. I know that some my take offense

> at what I'm about to say, but I'm ready to take that chance.

> I am truly sorry for all of the serious medical conditions that

> everyone is facing. As you know, I am also suffering from life-

> threatening exposure to stachybotris, chaetomium,

> aflatoxins,satratoxins, and secondary exposure to Methamphetamines,

> Heroin and Cocaine. Not only did the house have these toxic Molds,

> but it had also been used as both a Crack House and Meth Lab. I

> nearly lost my life. In spite of it all, I am still here.

>

> One of the ways I have found to get myself better, besides diet and

> exercise, is to always have a positive atitude and not focus on my

> disability or illness. I hardly ever talk about it anymore to anyone,

> and I'm finding that the symptoms when they do occur are not as bad.

> That, coupled with a strong faith in God is what has kept me going.

> Recently, I have read many stories about people who have gone through

> numerous trials in their life as well as crippling and debilitating

> illnesses. One of the themes which constantly appeared throughout all

> of these people's stories was that they always kept a positive

> attitude and did not focus on their illnesses by constantly giving

> it " voice " . That is what helped them to beat the odds and remain

> alive.

> I have gotten to the point where I too have found that if I do not

> discuss or talk about my illness, but focus on the positive things in

> life( that I am alive) and withmy strong faith in God, I am and will

> be able to continue and survice and enjoy my life. As a former

> educator with over 20 years working with all ages- young children to

> adult learners, I always stressed in developing in them a positive

> mental attitude for success. I am now applying what I said to myself-

> and I am seeing results.

> Yanni

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THANKS VICTORIA,

Sometimes some people feel " there way " was the best or " there way of thinking "

is the best but what we have to understand is everyone is different.

Believe me, if all I had to do now was think " DON'T WORRY....BE HAPPY " and sing

a couple of bars of it, I would. I know, with what little bit of brain matter

that is functioning now, that will not work for me. Sure I get depressed but if

you knew what I have been through in my life and to come to this, it is very

disheartening.

I do smile at funny things and beautiful things outside but I don't have very

many things to smile about. I am hoping that changes and am praying for that to

change but there are a lot of mean, stupid people out there that say.... " Mold,

no way will that make you sick. "

I lay in bed some nights just wanting to get into these people's faces and say "

Wake up, look at me. " I was not like this before the exposure. I am tired of my

Police Officer friends saying " What happened to you, or where is the rest of

you? " Or " you USED to be the strongest woman we knew. "

I do try to stay positive or else I would give up on trying to help as many

people as I can just getting the story out. ( And it will get out.)

Sincerely,

Marcie

<toria@...> wrote:

Great post, Marcie. I agree with you--there are those on this list who HAVE

recovered, & I'm truly glad for them. However: those people who have

recovered (partly, or mostly) have to remember that there are those of us on

the list who will NEVER be better. Our health & our lives have been

destroyed by all this, & NO medicine will make us 100% well, ever again.

That's part of the reason I'm SO angry. Despite any methods I try to do,

for example, its never going to re-myelinate my spinal cord. It's never

going to give me back my bowel & bladder control. It's never going to

prevent me from having future surgeries that are necessary, for me to

continue the " lifestyle " I now have. (Which is FAR from good--I've already

had 3 surgeries since my onset of this illness!).

Each and EVERY step I take I have to take with a conscious effort...to avoid

tripping over my own toes, & so I don't fall down. Tell me, somebody--how

do you have a totally POSITIVE outlook, when you can't even walk? When you

have pain 24/7, & many other issues?

Don't get me wrong, everybody on here: I am NOT complaining. I've come a

VERY long way, for a gal who was never supposed to walk again. I have a

strong faith in God also, & I know He allowed me to become this sick so I

could attempt to educate others--but at the same time, I want MY life back!

It's true that there are many sick people on this site. Just remember:

some are far sicker than others, & it's not up to ANY of us to judge others.

Take care, all, & God bless,

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> Yanni,

>

> I have been through a lot in my life and if I told you just the last 10

> years, you would find it unbelievable.

> I have always tried to have a positive outlook on anything and do believe

> that things happen for a reason.

> What I do not understand is how a " Company " or workplace can sit by while

> someone that worked for them loyally for years is trying very hard to

> live. Because of their practice of ignoring the health affects of mold or

> anything else in the " air " , innocent people suffer.

> I still try to have a positive outlook even though I can not stand long,

> sit long, lay down long, breathe long, eat much, concentrate on anything

> long, hurt all the time, and the list continues.

> I am positive that they will be held accountable for what has happened. It

> may take awhile but right now all I have is time. Since I have no money,

> food, phone, gas or medications....ALL I HAVE IS TIME TO THINK OF THIS.

> Yes...I am positive that I am sick and do not have any help except to get

> the IVIG's every 4 weeks just to keep me alive. I am positive that I have

> to wear a mask where ever I go because anything will make me sicker or

> kill me.

> Yes....I am positive and thank GOD that I am still here today but the

> suffering has got to stop. Not just for me but for the thousands of

> innocent people that have had this awful illness come upon them.

> My voice will be heard and so will the members of this group that sent

> their story's to me. I will do everything I can to make sure that it will

> be a " Positive " outcome for everyone.

> Yanni, I am very glad that you have come above all this and are doing

> better but I am not there yet. I pray every day to feel like you do. I am

> positive that I will be some day but till then, please excuse those of us

> who have not arrived to that level yet.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Marcie

>

>

> drzack52 <drzack@...> wrote:

> Dear Members,

> I have been following your posts and reading all of the discussions

> on this board for quite some time. I know that some my take offense

> at what I'm about to say, but I'm ready to take that chance.

> I am truly sorry for all of the serious medical conditions that

> everyone is facing. As you know, I am also suffering from life-

> threatening exposure to stachybotris, chaetomium,

> aflatoxins,satratoxins, and secondary exposure to Methamphetamines,

> Heroin and Cocaine. Not only did the house have these toxic Molds,

> but it had also been used as both a Crack House and Meth Lab. I

> nearly lost my life. In spite of it all, I am still here.

>

> One of the ways I have found to get myself better, besides diet and

> exercise, is to always have a positive atitude and not focus on my

> disability or illness. I hardly ever talk about it anymore to anyone,

> and I'm finding that the symptoms when they do occur are not as bad.

> That, coupled with a strong faith in God is what has kept me going.

> Recently, I have read many stories about people who have gone through

> numerous trials in their life as well as crippling and debilitating

> illnesses. One of the themes which constantly appeared throughout all

> of these people's stories was that they always kept a positive

> attitude and did not focus on their illnesses by constantly giving

> it " voice " . That is what helped them to beat the odds and remain

> alive.

> I have gotten to the point where I too have found that if I do not

> discuss or talk about my illness, but focus on the positive things in

> life( that I am alive) and withmy strong faith in God, I am and will

> be able to continue and survice and enjoy my life. As a former

> educator with over 20 years working with all ages- young children to

> adult learners, I always stressed in developing in them a positive

> mental attitude for success. I am now applying what I said to myself-

> and I am seeing results.

> Yanni

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AMEN, MARCIE..........MORE POWER TO US ALL! I've had a very tough life

too, Marcie, but perhaps those parts of our lives just led up to this point,

& it helped make us stronger persons. Things DO happen for a reason. I

know my reason, as I know you do, too.

The first time I was able to actually stand up again (between parallel

bars), my physical " terrorist " (lol!) said " have you always been so

stubborn? " Perhaps thats the reason I'm still here, you know?

I have a saying I coined somewhere along this awful road. My saying is that

" We become stronger persons after the adversity we ourselves endure. " I

believe that, with ALL my heart.

HUGS,

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>

>> Yanni,

>>

>> I have been through a lot in my life and if I told you just the last 10

>> years, you would find it unbelievable.

>> I have always tried to have a positive outlook on anything and do believe

>> that things happen for a reason.

>> What I do not understand is how a " Company " or workplace can sit by while

>> someone that worked for them loyally for years is trying very hard to

>> live. Because of their practice of ignoring the health affects of mold or

>> anything else in the " air " , innocent people suffer.

>> I still try to have a positive outlook even though I can not stand long,

>> sit long, lay down long, breathe long, eat much, concentrate on anything

>> long, hurt all the time, and the list continues.

>> I am positive that they will be held accountable for what has happened.

>> It

>> may take awhile but right now all I have is time. Since I have no money,

>> food, phone, gas or medications....ALL I HAVE IS TIME TO THINK OF THIS.

>> Yes...I am positive that I am sick and do not have any help except to get

>> the IVIG's every 4 weeks just to keep me alive. I am positive that I have

>> to wear a mask where ever I go because anything will make me sicker or

>> kill me.

>> Yes....I am positive and thank GOD that I am still here today but the

>> suffering has got to stop. Not just for me but for the thousands of

>> innocent people that have had this awful illness come upon them.

>> My voice will be heard and so will the members of this group that sent

>> their story's to me. I will do everything I can to make sure that it will

>> be a " Positive " outcome for everyone.

>> Yanni, I am very glad that you have come above all this and are doing

>> better but I am not there yet. I pray every day to feel like you do. I am

>> positive that I will be some day but till then, please excuse those of us

>> who have not arrived to that level yet.

>>

>> Sincerely,

>>

>> Marcie

>>

>>

>> drzack52 <drzack@...> wrote:

>> Dear Members,

>> I have been following your posts and reading all of the discussions

>> on this board for quite some time. I know that some my take offense

>> at what I'm about to say, but I'm ready to take that chance.

>> I am truly sorry for all of the serious medical conditions that

>> everyone is facing. As you know, I am also suffering from life-

>> threatening exposure to stachybotris, chaetomium,

>> aflatoxins,satratoxins, and secondary exposure to Methamphetamines,

>> Heroin and Cocaine. Not only did the house have these toxic Molds,

>> but it had also been used as both a Crack House and Meth Lab. I

>> nearly lost my life. In spite of it all, I am still here.

>>

>> One of the ways I have found to get myself better, besides diet and

>> exercise, is to always have a positive atitude and not focus on my

>> disability or illness. I hardly ever talk about it anymore to anyone,

>> and I'm finding that the symptoms when they do occur are not as bad.

>> That, coupled with a strong faith in God is what has kept me going.

>> Recently, I have read many stories about people who have gone through

>> numerous trials in their life as well as crippling and debilitating

>> illnesses. One of the themes which constantly appeared throughout all

>> of these people's stories was that they always kept a positive

>> attitude and did not focus on their illnesses by constantly giving

>> it " voice " . That is what helped them to beat the odds and remain

>> alive.

>> I have gotten to the point where I too have found that if I do not

>> discuss or talk about my illness, but focus on the positive things in

>> life( that I am alive) and withmy strong faith in God, I am and will

>> be able to continue and survice and enjoy my life. As a former

>> educator with over 20 years working with all ages- young children to

>> adult learners, I always stressed in developing in them a positive

>> mental attitude for success. I am now applying what I said to myself-

>> and I am seeing results.

>> Yanni

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I remember when I had to learn how to walk again after that bad back surgery.

One PT told me to slow down in the hallway. I laughed so hard, here I was on a

walker with only two whells and they are telling me to slow down. ( Like the

wind was blowing through my hair) LOL!

Just how fast did they think I could go???? LOL!

Marcie

<toria@...> wrote:

AMEN, MARCIE..........MORE POWER TO US ALL! I've had a very tough life

too, Marcie, but perhaps those parts of our lives just led up to this point,

& it helped make us stronger persons. Things DO happen for a reason. I

know my reason, as I know you do, too.

The first time I was able to actually stand up again (between parallel

bars), my physical " terrorist " (lol!) said " have you always been so

stubborn? " Perhaps thats the reason I'm still here, you know?

I have a saying I coined somewhere along this awful road. My saying is that

" We become stronger persons after the adversity we ourselves endure. " I

believe that, with ALL my heart.

HUGS,

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>

>

>> Yanni,

>>

>> I have been through a lot in my life and if I told you just the last 10

>> years, you would find it unbelievable.

>> I have always tried to have a positive outlook on anything and do believe

>> that things happen for a reason.

>> What I do not understand is how a " Company " or workplace can sit by while

>> someone that worked for them loyally for years is trying very hard to

>> live. Because of their practice of ignoring the health affects of mold or

>> anything else in the " air " , innocent people suffer.

>> I still try to have a positive outlook even though I can not stand long,

>> sit long, lay down long, breathe long, eat much, concentrate on anything

>> long, hurt all the time, and the list continues.

>> I am positive that they will be held accountable for what has happened.

>> It

>> may take awhile but right now all I have is time. Since I have no money,

>> food, phone, gas or medications....ALL I HAVE IS TIME TO THINK OF THIS.

>> Yes...I am positive that I am sick and do not have any help except to get

>> the IVIG's every 4 weeks just to keep me alive. I am positive that I have

>> to wear a mask where ever I go because anything will make me sicker or

>> kill me.

>> Yes....I am positive and thank GOD that I am still here today but the

>> suffering has got to stop. Not just for me but for the thousands of

>> innocent people that have had this awful illness come upon them.

>> My voice will be heard and so will the members of this group that sent

>> their story's to me. I will do everything I can to make sure that it will

>> be a " Positive " outcome for everyone.

>> Yanni, I am very glad that you have come above all this and are doing

>> better but I am not there yet. I pray every day to feel like you do. I am

>> positive that I will be some day but till then, please excuse those of us

>> who have not arrived to that level yet.

>>

>> Sincerely,

>>

>> Marcie

>>

>>

>> drzack52 <drzack@...> wrote:

>> Dear Members,

>> I have been following your posts and reading all of the discussions

>> on this board for quite some time. I know that some my take offense

>> at what I'm about to say, but I'm ready to take that chance.

>> I am truly sorry for all of the serious medical conditions that

>> everyone is facing. As you know, I am also suffering from life-

>> threatening exposure to stachybotris, chaetomium,

>> aflatoxins,satratoxins, and secondary exposure to Methamphetamines,

>> Heroin and Cocaine. Not only did the house have these toxic Molds,

>> but it had also been used as both a Crack House and Meth Lab. I

>> nearly lost my life. In spite of it all, I am still here.

>>

>> One of the ways I have found to get myself better, besides diet and

>> exercise, is to always have a positive atitude and not focus on my

>> disability or illness. I hardly ever talk about it anymore to anyone,

>> and I'm finding that the symptoms when they do occur are not as bad.

>> That, coupled with a strong faith in God is what has kept me going.

>> Recently, I have read many stories about people who have gone through

>> numerous trials in their life as well as crippling and debilitating

>> illnesses. One of the themes which constantly appeared throughout all

>> of these people's stories was that they always kept a positive

>> attitude and did not focus on their illnesses by constantly giving

>> it " voice " . That is what helped them to beat the odds and remain

>> alive.

>> I have gotten to the point where I too have found that if I do not

>> discuss or talk about my illness, but focus on the positive things in

>> life( that I am alive) and withmy strong faith in God, I am and will

>> be able to continue and survice and enjoy my life. As a former

>> educator with over 20 years working with all ages- young children to

>> adult learners, I always stressed in developing in them a positive

>> mental attitude for success. I am now applying what I said to myself-

>> and I am seeing results.

>> Yanni

>>

>>

>>

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Exactly! I used to wonder how they did that, when people would tell me (calmly,

yet!) that everything they had ever been and every place they had ever been had

led them to exactly this moment, and that was ok. Now I understand what they

meant. I'm not here because this is peaceful or pleasant or good. I'm here

because there are things to be done, and I can do them. (Yup. Rescue Rabbit.

That's me. Or maybe, that's - she's the speed demon. : )

<toria@...> wrote:

AMEN, MARCIE..........MORE POWER TO US ALL! I've had a very tough life

too, Marcie, but perhaps those parts of our lives just led up to this point,

& it helped make us stronger persons. Things DO happen for a reason. I

know my reason, as I know you do, too.

The first time I was able to actually stand up again (between parallel

bars), my physical " terrorist " (lol!) said " have you always been so

stubborn? " Perhaps thats the reason I'm still here, you know?

I have a saying I coined somewhere along this awful road. My saying is that

" We become stronger persons after the adversity we ourselves endure. " I

believe that, with ALL my heart.

HUGS,

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>

>

>> Yanni,

>>

>> I have been through a lot in my life and if I told you just the last 10

>> years, you would find it unbelievable.

>> I have always tried to have a positive outlook on anything and do believe

>> that things happen for a reason.

>> What I do not understand is how a " Company " or workplace can sit by while

>> someone that worked for them loyally for years is trying very hard to

>> live. Because of their practice of ignoring the health affects of mold or

>> anything else in the " air " , innocent people suffer.

>> I still try to have a positive outlook even though I can not stand long,

>> sit long, lay down long, breathe long, eat much, concentrate on anything

>> long, hurt all the time, and the list continues.

>> I am positive that they will be held accountable for what has happened.

>> It

>> may take awhile but right now all I have is time. Since I have no money,

>> food, phone, gas or medications....ALL I HAVE IS TIME TO THINK OF THIS.

>> Yes...I am positive that I am sick and do not have any help except to get

>> the IVIG's every 4 weeks just to keep me alive. I am positive that I have

>> to wear a mask where ever I go because anything will make me sicker or

>> kill me.

>> Yes....I am positive and thank GOD that I am still here today but the

>> suffering has got to stop. Not just for me but for the thousands of

>> innocent people that have had this awful illness come upon them.

>> My voice will be heard and so will the members of this group that sent

>> their story's to me. I will do everything I can to make sure that it will

>> be a " Positive " outcome for everyone.

>> Yanni, I am very glad that you have come above all this and are doing

>> better but I am not there yet. I pray every day to feel like you do. I am

>> positive that I will be some day but till then, please excuse those of us

>> who have not arrived to that level yet.

>>

>> Sincerely,

>>

>> Marcie

>>

>>

>> drzack52 <drzack@...> wrote:

>> Dear Members,

>> I have been following your posts and reading all of the discussions

>> on this board for quite some time. I know that some my take offense

>> at what I'm about to say, but I'm ready to take that chance.

>> I am truly sorry for all of the serious medical conditions that

>> everyone is facing. As you know, I am also suffering from life-

>> threatening exposure to stachybotris, chaetomium,

>> aflatoxins,satratoxins, and secondary exposure to Methamphetamines,

>> Heroin and Cocaine. Not only did the house have these toxic Molds,

>> but it had also been used as both a Crack House and Meth Lab. I

>> nearly lost my life. In spite of it all, I am still here.

>>

>> One of the ways I have found to get myself better, besides diet and

>> exercise, is to always have a positive atitude and not focus on my

>> disability or illness. I hardly ever talk about it anymore to anyone,

>> and I'm finding that the symptoms when they do occur are not as bad.

>> That, coupled with a strong faith in God is what has kept me going.

>> Recently, I have read many stories about people who have gone through

>> numerous trials in their life as well as crippling and debilitating

>> illnesses. One of the themes which constantly appeared throughout all

>> of these people's stories was that they always kept a positive

>> attitude and did not focus on their illnesses by constantly giving

>> it " voice " . That is what helped them to beat the odds and remain

>> alive.

>> I have gotten to the point where I too have found that if I do not

>> discuss or talk about my illness, but focus on the positive things in

>> life( that I am alive) and withmy strong faith in God, I am and will

>> be able to continue and survice and enjoy my life. As a former

>> educator with over 20 years working with all ages- young children to

>> adult learners, I always stressed in developing in them a positive

>> mental attitude for success. I am now applying what I said to myself-

>> and I am seeing results.

>> Yanni

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Good question I have many of the same problems and question and can add some my

Pain want let me and living Under The HUD Voucher the closer I get to the end

of my lease! the stress get worse so I called HUD Housing so I can start looking

the fax me a list many where places I've lived in and put on the street and get

this all Molded places. I'm sure the one's I don't know about is worse Drugs oh

it's bad and sad I don't know what to do. I can see myself being placed on the

streets again I've already lost so much and my health is bad.

I Pray for us all.

Elvira

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> Yanni,

>

> I have been through a lot in my life and if I told you just the last 10

> years, you would find it unbelievable.

> I have always tried to have a positive outlook on anything and do believe

> that things happen for a reason.

> What I do not understand is how a " Company " or workplace can sit by while

> someone that worked for them loyally for years is trying very hard to

> live. Because of their practice of ignoring the health affects of mold or

> anything else in the " air " , innocent people suffer.

> I still try to have a positive outlook even though I can not stand long,

> sit long, lay down long, breathe long, eat much, concentrate on anything

> long, hurt all the time, and the list continues.

> I am positive that they will be held accountable for what has happened. It

> may take awhile but right now all I have is time. Since I have no money,

> food, phone, gas or medications....ALL I HAVE IS TIME TO THINK OF THIS.

> Yes...I am positive that I am sick and do not have any help except to get

> the IVIG's every 4 weeks just to keep me alive. I am positive that I have

> to wear a mask where ever I go because anything will make me sicker or

> kill me.

> Yes....I am positive and thank GOD that I am still here today but the

> suffering has got to stop. Not just for me but for the thousands of

> innocent people that have had this awful illness come upon them.

> My voice will be heard and so will the members of this group that sent

> their story's to me. I will do everything I can to make sure that it will

> be a " Positive " outcome for everyone.

> Yanni, I am very glad that you have come above all this and are doing

> better but I am not there yet. I pray every day to feel like you do. I am

> positive that I will be some day but till then, please excuse those of us

> who have not arrived to that level yet.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Marcie

>

>

> drzack52 <drzack@...> wrote:

> Dear Members,

> I have been following your posts and reading all of the discussions

> on this board for quite some time. I know that some my take offense

> at what I'm about to say, but I'm ready to take that chance.

> I am truly sorry for all of the serious medical conditions that

> everyone is facing. As you know, I am also suffering from life-

> threatening exposure to stachybotris, chaetomium,

> aflatoxins,satratoxins, and secondary exposure to Methamphetamines,

> Heroin and Cocaine. Not only did the house have these toxic Molds,

> but it had also been used as both a Crack House and Meth Lab. I

> nearly lost my life. In spite of it all, I am still here.

>

> One of the ways I have found to get myself better, besides diet and

> exercise, is to always have a positive atitude and not focus on my

> disability or illness. I hardly ever talk about it anymore to anyone,

> and I'm finding that the symptoms when they do occur are not as bad.

> That, coupled with a strong faith in God is what has kept me going.

> Recently, I have read many stories about people who have gone through

> numerous trials in their life as well as crippling and debilitating

> illnesses. One of the themes which constantly appeared throughout all

> of these people's stories was that they always kept a positive

> attitude and did not focus on their illnesses by constantly giving

> it " voice " . That is what helped them to beat the odds and remain

> alive.

> I have gotten to the point where I too have found that if I do not

> discuss or talk about my illness, but focus on the positive things in

> life( that I am alive) and withmy strong faith in God, I am and will

> be able to continue and survice and enjoy my life. As a former

> educator with over 20 years working with all ages- young children to

> adult learners, I always stressed in developing in them a positive

> mental attitude for success. I am now applying what I said to myself-

> and I am seeing results.

> Yanni

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

>

>

>

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i can picture THAT one, marcie. i walked with a walker for a long

while..... & then a hemi walker & quad cane, & then 2 quad canes, etc

etc......it was awful!!

victoria

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>>

>>

>>> Yanni,

>>>

>>> I have been through a lot in my life and if I told you just the last 10

>>> years, you would find it unbelievable.

>>> I have always tried to have a positive outlook on anything and do

>>> believe

>>> that things happen for a reason.

>>> What I do not understand is how a " Company " or workplace can sit by

>>> while

>>> someone that worked for them loyally for years is trying very hard to

>>> live. Because of their practice of ignoring the health affects of mold

>>> or

>>> anything else in the " air " , innocent people suffer.

>>> I still try to have a positive outlook even though I can not stand long,

>>> sit long, lay down long, breathe long, eat much, concentrate on anything

>>> long, hurt all the time, and the list continues.

>>> I am positive that they will be held accountable for what has happened.

>>> It

>>> may take awhile but right now all I have is time. Since I have no

>>> money,

>>> food, phone, gas or medications....ALL I HAVE IS TIME TO THINK OF THIS.

>>> Yes...I am positive that I am sick and do not have any help except to

>>> get

>>> the IVIG's every 4 weeks just to keep me alive. I am positive that I

>>> have

>>> to wear a mask where ever I go because anything will make me sicker or

>>> kill me.

>>> Yes....I am positive and thank GOD that I am still here today but the

>>> suffering has got to stop. Not just for me but for the thousands of

>>> innocent people that have had this awful illness come upon them.

>>> My voice will be heard and so will the members of this group that sent

>>> their story's to me. I will do everything I can to make sure that it

>>> will

>>> be a " Positive " outcome for everyone.

>>> Yanni, I am very glad that you have come above all this and are doing

>>> better but I am not there yet. I pray every day to feel like you do. I

>>> am

>>> positive that I will be some day but till then, please excuse those of

>>> us

>>> who have not arrived to that level yet.

>>>

>>> Sincerely,

>>>

>>> Marcie

>>>

>>>

>>> drzack52 <drzack@...> wrote:

>>> Dear Members,

>>> I have been following your posts and reading all of the discussions

>>> on this board for quite some time. I know that some my take offense

>>> at what I'm about to say, but I'm ready to take that chance.

>>> I am truly sorry for all of the serious medical conditions that

>>> everyone is facing. As you know, I am also suffering from life-

>>> threatening exposure to stachybotris, chaetomium,

>>> aflatoxins,satratoxins, and secondary exposure to Methamphetamines,

>>> Heroin and Cocaine. Not only did the house have these toxic Molds,

>>> but it had also been used as both a Crack House and Meth Lab. I

>>> nearly lost my life. In spite of it all, I am still here.

>>>

>>> One of the ways I have found to get myself better, besides diet and

>>> exercise, is to always have a positive atitude and not focus on my

>>> disability or illness. I hardly ever talk about it anymore to anyone,

>>> and I'm finding that the symptoms when they do occur are not as bad.

>>> That, coupled with a strong faith in God is what has kept me going.

>>> Recently, I have read many stories about people who have gone through

>>> numerous trials in their life as well as crippling and debilitating

>>> illnesses. One of the themes which constantly appeared throughout all

>>> of these people's stories was that they always kept a positive

>>> attitude and did not focus on their illnesses by constantly giving

>>> it " voice " . That is what helped them to beat the odds and remain

>>> alive.

>>> I have gotten to the point where I too have found that if I do not

>>> discuss or talk about my illness, but focus on the positive things in

>>> life( that I am alive) and withmy strong faith in God, I am and will

>>> be able to continue and survice and enjoy my life. As a former

>>> educator with over 20 years working with all ages- young children to

>>> adult learners, I always stressed in developing in them a positive

>>> mental attitude for success. I am now applying what I said to myself-

>>> and I am seeing results.

>>> Yanni

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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LOL, SERENA, THAT'S CUTE!

THANKS,

Re: [] Ways to Deal with your Illness

>>

>>

>>> Yanni,

>>>

>>> I have been through a lot in my life and if I told you just the last 10

>>> years, you would find it unbelievable.

>>> I have always tried to have a positive outlook on anything and do

>>> believe

>>> that things happen for a reason.

>>> What I do not understand is how a " Company " or workplace can sit by

>>> while

>>> someone that worked for them loyally for years is trying very hard to

>>> live. Because of their practice of ignoring the health affects of mold

>>> or

>>> anything else in the " air " , innocent people suffer.

>>> I still try to have a positive outlook even though I can not stand long,

>>> sit long, lay down long, breathe long, eat much, concentrate on anything

>>> long, hurt all the time, and the list continues.

>>> I am positive that they will be held accountable for what has happened.

>>> It

>>> may take awhile but right now all I have is time. Since I have no

>>> money,

>>> food, phone, gas or medications....ALL I HAVE IS TIME TO THINK OF THIS.

>>> Yes...I am positive that I am sick and do not have any help except to

>>> get

>>> the IVIG's every 4 weeks just to keep me alive. I am positive that I

>>> have

>>> to wear a mask where ever I go because anything will make me sicker or

>>> kill me.

>>> Yes....I am positive and thank GOD that I am still here today but the

>>> suffering has got to stop. Not just for me but for the thousands of

>>> innocent people that have had this awful illness come upon them.

>>> My voice will be heard and so will the members of this group that sent

>>> their story's to me. I will do everything I can to make sure that it

>>> will

>>> be a " Positive " outcome for everyone.

>>> Yanni, I am very glad that you have come above all this and are doing

>>> better but I am not there yet. I pray every day to feel like you do. I

>>> am

>>> positive that I will be some day but till then, please excuse those of

>>> us

>>> who have not arrived to that level yet.

>>>

>>> Sincerely,

>>>

>>> Marcie

>>>

>>>

>>> drzack52 <drzack@...> wrote:

>>> Dear Members,

>>> I have been following your posts and reading all of the discussions

>>> on this board for quite some time. I know that some my take offense

>>> at what I'm about to say, but I'm ready to take that chance.

>>> I am truly sorry for all of the serious medical conditions that

>>> everyone is facing. As you know, I am also suffering from life-

>>> threatening exposure to stachybotris, chaetomium,

>>> aflatoxins,satratoxins, and secondary exposure to Methamphetamines,

>>> Heroin and Cocaine. Not only did the house have these toxic Molds,

>>> but it had also been used as both a Crack House and Meth Lab. I

>>> nearly lost my life. In spite of it all, I am still here.

>>>

>>> One of the ways I have found to get myself better, besides diet and

>>> exercise, is to always have a positive atitude and not focus on my

>>> disability or illness. I hardly ever talk about it anymore to anyone,

>>> and I'm finding that the symptoms when they do occur are not as bad.

>>> That, coupled with a strong faith in God is what has kept me going.

>>> Recently, I have read many stories about people who have gone through

>>> numerous trials in their life as well as crippling and debilitating

>>> illnesses. One of the themes which constantly appeared throughout all

>>> of these people's stories was that they always kept a positive

>>> attitude and did not focus on their illnesses by constantly giving

>>> it " voice " . That is what helped them to beat the odds and remain

>>> alive.

>>> I have gotten to the point where I too have found that if I do not

>>> discuss or talk about my illness, but focus on the positive things in

>>> life( that I am alive) and withmy strong faith in God, I am and will

>>> be able to continue and survice and enjoy my life. As a former

>>> educator with over 20 years working with all ages- young children to

>>> adult learners, I always stressed in developing in them a positive

>>> mental attitude for success. I am now applying what I said to myself-

>>> and I am seeing results.

>>> Yanni

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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I hope & pray you find new (safe!) housing soon, Elvira......you surely

deserve to, & may God bless you & yours!

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>

>

> > Yanni,

> >

> > I have been through a lot in my life and if I told you just the last 10

> > years, you would find it unbelievable.

> > I have always tried to have a positive outlook on anything and do

> believe

> > that things happen for a reason.

> > What I do not understand is how a " Company " or workplace can sit by

> while

> > someone that worked for them loyally for years is trying very hard to

> > live. Because of their practice of ignoring the health affects of mold

> or

> > anything else in the " air " , innocent people suffer.

> > I still try to have a positive outlook even though I can not stand

> long,

> > sit long, lay down long, breathe long, eat much, concentrate on

> anything

> > long, hurt all the time, and the list continues.

> > I am positive that they will be held accountable for what has happened.

> It

> > may take awhile but right now all I have is time. Since I have no

> money,

> > food, phone, gas or medications....ALL I HAVE IS TIME TO THINK OF THIS.

> > Yes...I am positive that I am sick and do not have any help except to

> get

> > the IVIG's every 4 weeks just to keep me alive. I am positive that I

> have

> > to wear a mask where ever I go because anything will make me sicker or

> > kill me.

> > Yes....I am positive and thank GOD that I am still here today but the

> > suffering has got to stop. Not just for me but for the thousands of

> > innocent people that have had this awful illness come upon them.

> > My voice will be heard and so will the members of this group that sent

> > their story's to me. I will do everything I can to make sure that it

> will

> > be a " Positive " outcome for everyone.

> > Yanni, I am very glad that you have come above all this and are doing

> > better but I am not there yet. I pray every day to feel like you do. I

> am

> > positive that I will be some day but till then, please excuse those of

> us

> > who have not arrived to that level yet.

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > Marcie

> >

> >

> > drzack52 <drzack@...> wrote:

> > Dear Members,

> > I have been following your posts and reading all of the discussions

> > on this board for quite some time. I know that some my take offense

> > at what I'm about to say, but I'm ready to take that chance.

> > I am truly sorry for all of the serious medical conditions that

> > everyone is facing. As you know, I am also suffering from life-

> > threatening exposure to stachybotris, chaetomium,

> > aflatoxins,satratoxins, and secondary exposure to Methamphetamines,

> > Heroin and Cocaine. Not only did the house have these toxic Molds,

> > but it had also been used as both a Crack House and Meth Lab. I

> > nearly lost my life. In spite of it all, I am still here.

> >

> > One of the ways I have found to get myself better, besides diet and

> > exercise, is to always have a positive atitude and not focus on my

> > disability or illness. I hardly ever talk about it anymore to anyone,

> > and I'm finding that the symptoms when they do occur are not as bad.

> > That, coupled with a strong faith in God is what has kept me going.

> > Recently, I have read many stories about people who have gone through

> > numerous trials in their life as well as crippling and debilitating

> > illnesses. One of the themes which constantly appeared throughout all

> > of these people's stories was that they always kept a positive

> > attitude and did not focus on their illnesses by constantly giving

> > it " voice " . That is what helped them to beat the odds and remain

> > alive.

> > I have gotten to the point where I too have found that if I do not

> > discuss or talk about my illness, but focus on the positive things in

> > life( that I am alive) and withmy strong faith in God, I am and will

> > be able to continue and survice and enjoy my life. As a former

> > educator with over 20 years working with all ages- young children to

> > adult learners, I always stressed in developing in them a positive

> > mental attitude for success. I am now applying what I said to myself-

> > and I am seeing results.

> > Yanni

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thank You ,

My Landlord say I can stay where I'm But I know the real deal about the Voucher,

the largest problem is that most HUD Housing has some type of problems many has

Mold, bugs You name it I have very nice things lost much of it. People don't

know this what this Voucher really means. all the Landlord had to say is the

word sold. it very hard to fine a nice place under HUD unless you are special to

them I'm not I'm considered a trouble maker I seek truth. When I live in Boca

Raton HUD Housing every Child born the 7 years I was there had some type of

problem Asthma, Ears, Head, well I speak out that's a no,no.

many of these people under HUD are retired worked good jobs can this happen to

any of you? Ask yourselves this question and who do you think are protected the

Landlord. I feel that too, Smell of Fish I have a so called friend own the house

I can't go there it's so Moldy........the person is very smart, and very

educated we use to demonstrate together . Wouldn't help with a thing at first I

couldn't understand how could someone with so much education not

help...........well now I understand the house so moldy it's up for sale and

guess the price $ 350,000 or more bought for $10,000 by the parents in 1950 give

or take.

the area HUMmmmm but off s Ave long story they say I'm Hooked on the Mold

issue I have made it my life GO Figure, I say YEA GOT THAT RIGHT and I said now

I understand why! You so against what I do and do the things you do and don't do

a so called friend? Your house is Full of it even the dog was ILL I don't know

how they stay there it's just that bad. and now the storm hit Roof off out of

town. Water damage two time in one month I understand I said and you are right

about me I will keep on educating people on this problem as long as I can I do

Understand.

the person is so cheep no insurance on the house trying to move not cleaning off

a thing nor trying Got lots of money by the way the house is a small two bedroom

two bath can be three bedroom. They are now using Wilma to put people on the

streets MOLD PROBLEMS A way out for many and we all know who those will be and

with false hope that can come back and bit them sorry Pain.

BUYER BE WARE

and may God Bless Us all I pray.

Peace

Elvira

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I hope & pray you find new (safe!) housing soon, Elvira......you surely

deserve to, & may God bless you & yours!

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> I lay in bed some nights just wanting to get into these people's

faces and say " Wake up, look at me. " I was not like this before the

exposure. I am tired of my Police Officer friends saying " What

happened to you, or where is the rest of you? " Or " you USED to be

the strongest woman we knew. "

> I do try to stay positive or else I would give up on trying to

help as many people as I can just getting the story out. ( And it

will get out.)

> Sincerely,

> Marcie

Ain't it mind boggling that any person " in their right mind " would

question what you are going through? As if you had nothing better to

do than make up this whole bizarreness - and somehow act in

collusion with a few thousand other people you never met who somehow

also have the identical " mold obsessions " ?

As you say: " Wake up, look at me " .

It is literally as though a large portion of their empirical senses

are completely disabled.

It would be interesting to study the " disbelief response " in

supposedly " normal/sane " people to determine what type of mental

block can induce such a profound state of oblivion.

After a few years in bed, I crawled outside one beautiful summer day

and said " Now isn't this strange. I feel SLIGHTLY less bad out here.

Wonder why?

I really need to look into this! "

Glad I did.

Pity that doctors don't.

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>

>

> > I lay in bed some nights just wanting to get into these people's

> faces and say " Wake up, look at me. " I was not like this before the

> exposure. I am tired of my Police Officer friends saying " What

> happened to you, or where is the rest of you? " Or " you USED to be

> the strongest woman we knew. "

> > I do try to stay positive or else I would give up on trying to

> help as many people as I can just getting the story out. ( And it

> will get out.)

> > Sincerely,

> > Marcie

>

> Ain't it mind boggling that any person " in their right mind " would

> question what you are going through? As if you had nothing better to

> do than make up this whole bizarreness - and somehow act in

> collusion with a few thousand other people you never met who somehow

> also have the identical " mold obsessions " ?

> As you say: " Wake up, look at me " .

> It is literally as though a large portion of their empirical senses

> are completely disabled.

> It would be interesting to study the " disbelief response " in

> supposedly " normal/sane " people to determine what type of mental

> block can induce such a profound state of oblivion.

>

> After a few years in bed, I crawled outside one beautiful summer day

> and said " Now isn't this strange. I feel SLIGHTLY less bad out here.

> Wonder why?

> I really need to look into this! "

>

> Glad I did.

> Pity that doctors don't.

> -

>

This is just disgusting. The height of disrespect. I try to be humble, but I get

so mad when

faced with this.

The Environmental Allergists are trained to believe the patients, but they don't

seem to be

aware of the biotxin pathway, so may not be of much use to many people.

When I saw my doc, I wanted to cry- I was all braced for the skepticism,

disbelief and

blame I had received before, and they just , well, BELIEVED ME. And thanked me

for

making their job so much easier by writing up such a detailed and excellent

history.

SIGH......of relief.....

They were angry about my treatment by other health " professionals " , but were

very happy

they could help me.......

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OMG, ELVIRA, WHAT A TRUE NIGHTMARE! YES, IT SEEMS THAT THOSE OF US WHO

SPEAK OUT ARE THE " CRIMINALS " OUT IN THE PUBLIC EYE....BUT TRULY, WE ARE THE

GOOD PEOPLE, TRYING TO PREVENT THESE HORRIFIC ILLNESSES FROM HAPPENING TO

OTHERS! SOME PEOPLE JUST DO NOT " GET " THAT AT ALL......LIKE YOU SAY,

THOUGH, UNTIL ITS THEM, OR THEIR FAMILY! SO SAD......

TAKE CARE, MY FRIEND, & KEEP ON KEEPIN ON!

HUGS, VICTORIA

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> I hope & pray you find new (safe!) housing soon, Elvira......you surely

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TAKE CARE, MY FRIEND, & KEEP ON KEEPIN ON!

HUGS, Love it.

PEACE

Elvira

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Hi Marcie:

Sorry for the delay; my keyboard died on me (my fault, I spilled hibiscus

tea on it) and couldn't send emails until I got a new one!

I'm sorry you are not doing well; please be careful what you use even

thought it is alternative. With you receiving IVIG, you must be very careful

of taking anything which could alter its action in your body. You have to

know how the IVIG is metabolized in your body, exactly what it does, what

part of your immune system it stimulates and be careful to not select any

alternative or OTC/Rx drugs that would conflict with its intended actions.

For example, we know those receiving chemo for cancer should not use

Echinacea and a few other popular OTC herbs because they would alter how

they chemo is cleared through the P450 liver enzymes. That's something a

lay person cannot easily determine.

FYI I'm an herbalist and don't use nor would recommend Garden of Life's

products like fungal defense and their other products but that's only my

humble opinion. I don't trust them or any products that have " proprietary

ingredients " . This company grew too quickly too fast mostly due to some

remarkable marketing skills and they are very costly.

What brand of Oregano Oil did you use? Was it 100% pure essential oils of

Oregano or the diluted form? FYI, I wouldn't use it internally and am not

as ill as you. I would recommend topical use only diluting the pure oregano

oil perhaps 10 drops to an ounce of culinary oil and rubbing that on the

sole of your feet or using some other " antifungal pure essential oils (there

are others that have been used for fungal infections, a www.pubmed search

will pull them up) or try rubbing some crushed fresh garlic on the bottom of

your feet; the garlic will be absorbed through your skin into the blood

stream and into your lungs (seriously). I used to demonstrate to my clients

the importance of being aware that our skin does absorb much that touches it

and would have them crush some fresh garlic, rub on the bottom of their feet

and within 1/2 hour they would exhale the garlic. That woke them up!

In my humble opinion, the fungal defense is not appropriate for you and is

too strong for you; you are too weak, too immune suppressed, and I have a

feeling your digestive functions are not good. Your poor intestines are

probably compromised, you probably have leaky gut and hard time digesting

and assimilating foods plus food allergies. This formula is not for you.

True clinical herbalism is not matching an herb or formula to a symptom, but

taking a long medical and diagnostic intake and assessing the vitality and

constitution, lifestyle, emotions and ability of the client and then

suggesting some starting points which the client is able to comply with. We

need to take into account the constitution of the person meaning is the

person basically hot, cold, dry or moist. Many formulas especially the

detox formulas are cold and drying in nature and if we give those formulas

to someone who is cold in nature and dry we can further damage their

constitution. We also need to take into consideration the environment where

the client lives. Is it hot and dry or hot and damp, cold and dry or cold

and damp. Herbs actions are changed by the environment. I'm sure you have

experienced that yourself such as when the weather changes dramatically and

the food you could eat before the change now causes adverse effects for you.

Same with herbs. I recall when I first became ill from the mold, I couldn't

tolerate anything sweet, sticky, mucous forming or foods that are considered

damp. I loved sweet potatoes but couldn't eat them.

I become so upset when all I read is " detox " but people are too toxic and

too weak to detox until we first build them up and then slowly begin the

detox process. I'm sure your Sister in the health food store means well and

is trying to help you; however she needs to understand your specific

condition and what is safe and specific for you not for a " symptom " . Hope

this makes sense to you.

You shared " I have spots in my lungs and body and they are Granulomatous

lesions. They were diagnosed after a Cat Scan " . When did you have the Cat

Scan and what did our physician say about these lesions and what protocols

where suggested?

You might consider starting a daily food/symptom log, record everything you

eat and drink and record your systems, no matter how insignificant. Try to

determine your food intolerances and find foods that agree with your body so

you body can get the nutrients it needs. Its time consuming, difficult but

can be done especially since you do not have the finances for appropriate

medical care.

Marcie you are a fighter, you are pro-active; take that energy you have and

focus it 100% on YOU for the time being, researching your illness, the

action of the IVIG you are taking, how it affects your body, what substances

and foods you can use that will compliment the IVIG protocols, put on your

detective hat, get to know your body and how it responds to different foods

and environments, record all that.......focus your energy on you, your

healing and then you will have the health and strength to help others and

become pro-active again for other causes. You need to come first right now.

Email if you have questions,

Rosie

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> Thanks Rosie.....you were thinking clearer than I was. :-)

> Marcie

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I could not agree more with this. I have used alternative medicines for years,

almost

exclusively (but I still need occasional drugs, either OTC or pres.). However, I

have been

very careful to find a practitioner that I trust, that does not have conflict of

interest (as in a

chiropractor that makesmoney off of selling the stuff they tell me I need), and

is a good

person, that I consider to have a good character. Some of this is a personal

feeling, but the

others are fairly easily determined.

For example, (please, I mean no offense to any practitioners out there, this is

only my

opinion), I have gone to some doctors of Traditional Chinese Medicine, but have

only used

persons from China, I know the training there to be very rigorous and thorough,

and they

are quite aware of what their herbs do and the effects on the organs, etc. I

trust their

herbs, as they have been doing it for a couple of thousand years. But the first

thing is, is it

helping?

I also have used chiroparctors, but have also been careful to choose those that

do not

have the conflict of interest.

There have been very few places I can go and drs I can see, what with all my

problems in

public places, so that also enters into it. Sometimes, I have to go for quite a

while without

help of that sort, due to being housebound from the reactivity.

The suggestions about the climate, seasons etc are all familiar from my appts

with my

chinese dr. They really do affect me, and my food tolerances also- which are

changing

again, to my irritation.

It is good to hear your sound advice, thanks, even tho it wasn't for me.

--- In , " Healthier4All " <Healthier4All@h...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Marcie:

>

> Sorry for the delay; my keyboard died on me (my fault, I spilled hibiscus

> tea on it) and couldn't send emails until I got a new one!

>

> I'm sorry you are not doing well; please be careful what you use even

> thought it is alternative. With you receiving IVIG, you must be very careful

> of taking anything which could alter its action in your body. You have to

> know how the IVIG is metabolized in your body, exactly what it does, what

> part of your immune system it stimulates and be careful to not select any

> alternative or OTC/Rx drugs that would conflict with its intended actions.

>

> For example, we know those receiving chemo for cancer should not use

> Echinacea and a few other popular OTC herbs because they would alter how

> they chemo is cleared through the P450 liver enzymes. That's something a

> lay person cannot easily determine.

>

> FYI I'm an herbalist and don't use nor would recommend Garden of Life's

> products like fungal defense and their other products but that's only my

> humble opinion. I don't trust them or any products that have " proprietary

> ingredients " . This company grew too quickly too fast mostly due to some

> remarkable marketing skills and they are very costly.

>

> What brand of Oregano Oil did you use? Was it 100% pure essential oils of

> Oregano or the diluted form? FYI, I wouldn't use it internally and am not

> as ill as you. I would recommend topical use only diluting the pure oregano

> oil perhaps 10 drops to an ounce of culinary oil and rubbing that on the

> sole of your feet or using some other " antifungal pure essential oils (there

> are others that have been used for fungal infections, a www.pubmed search

> will pull them up) or try rubbing some crushed fresh garlic on the bottom of

> your feet; the garlic will be absorbed through your skin into the blood

> stream and into your lungs (seriously). I used to demonstrate to my clients

> the importance of being aware that our skin does absorb much that touches it

> and would have them crush some fresh garlic, rub on the bottom of their feet

> and within 1/2 hour they would exhale the garlic. That woke them up!

>

> In my humble opinion, the fungal defense is not appropriate for you and is

> too strong for you; you are too weak, too immune suppressed, and I have a

> feeling your digestive functions are not good. Your poor intestines are

> probably compromised, you probably have leaky gut and hard time digesting

> and assimilating foods plus food allergies. This formula is not for you.

> True clinical herbalism is not matching an herb or formula to a symptom, but

> taking a long medical and diagnostic intake and assessing the vitality and

> constitution, lifestyle, emotions and ability of the client and then

> suggesting some starting points which the client is able to comply with. We

> need to take into account the constitution of the person meaning is the

> person basically hot, cold, dry or moist. Many formulas especially the

> detox formulas are cold and drying in nature and if we give those formulas

> to someone who is cold in nature and dry we can further damage their

> constitution. We also need to take into consideration the environment where

> the client lives. Is it hot and dry or hot and damp, cold and dry or cold

> and damp. Herbs actions are changed by the environment. I'm sure you have

> experienced that yourself such as when the weather changes dramatically and

> the food you could eat before the change now causes adverse effects for you.

> Same with herbs. I recall when I first became ill from the mold, I couldn't

> tolerate anything sweet, sticky, mucous forming or foods that are considered

> damp. I loved sweet potatoes but couldn't eat them.

>

> I become so upset when all I read is " detox " but people are too toxic and

> too weak to detox until we first build them up and then slowly begin the

> detox process. I'm sure your Sister in the health food store means well and

> is trying to help you; however she needs to understand your specific

> condition and what is safe and specific for you not for a " symptom " . Hope

> this makes sense to you.

>

> You shared " I have spots in my lungs and body and they are Granulomatous

> lesions. They were diagnosed after a Cat Scan " . When did you have the Cat

> Scan and what did our physician say about these lesions and what protocols

> where suggested?

>

> You might consider starting a daily food/symptom log, record everything you

> eat and drink and record your systems, no matter how insignificant. Try to

> determine your food intolerances and find foods that agree with your body so

> you body can get the nutrients it needs. Its time consuming, difficult but

> can be done especially since you do not have the finances for appropriate

> medical care.

>

> Marcie you are a fighter, you are pro-active; take that energy you have and

> focus it 100% on YOU for the time being, researching your illness, the

> action of the IVIG you are taking, how it affects your body, what substances

> and foods you can use that will compliment the IVIG protocols, put on your

> detective hat, get to know your body and how it responds to different foods

> and environments, record all that.......focus your energy on you, your

> healing and then you will have the health and strength to help others and

> become pro-active again for other causes. You need to come first right now.

>

>

>

> Email if you have questions,

> Rosie

>

>

> Re: [] Re: Ways to Deal with your Illness

>

>

> > Thanks Rosie.....you were thinking clearer than I was. :-)

> > Marcie

> >

>

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> > I hope & pray you find new (safe!) housing soon, Elvira......you

> surely

> > deserve to, & may God bless you & yours!

> >

> >

> >

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Rosie,

Thank you for the information. I knew that the Fungal Defense made me sick, Yoou

were to work up to 8 pills a day and I could not get my system to take more than

5. And that made me very ill.

My doctors are not saying anything about the lesions in my lungs or body. I have

them everywhere in my body.

You are right , my digestive system is very bad. Thank goodness KC told me about

Papaya Enzymes. They work very well but I have to take Aciphex also. I do not

digest food properly and hence all the weight loss. I went from a size 14 to a

size 6-8 in approx. eight months. I am still not gaining any weight. I am

extremely weak all the time even after an IVIG infusion. I will have another

IVIG on 11/30 and they will do more blood test to see if it needs to be

increased again.

The Oil Of Oregano I took was 100% pure. I can't remember the brand. ( White and

gold bottle) My sister is trying to help but she says she knows everything but I

try to tell her about mold illness but she does not understand what it can do to

people. She just keeps telling me that I don't have to feel this way. Believe me

I don't. She says I need to take high does of Fungal Defense but I keep telling

her it makes me very ill.

I had my Cat Scan in June of 2004 but did not find out my Immune System had

crashed until March of this year. I had another Cat Scan this past Sept. because

the hospital thought I had a Pulmulnary Embollisum (sp?) I did not thank

goodness. Had chest pains and my BP dropped to 51/33. The blood test revealed

that my Potassium level was very low. I had quit taking the Rx for Pot. that the

doc gave me because I could not afford it. I am now back on it.

Back to the digestive system....is that why I hurt in the stomach area all the

time. It feels like someone took a baseball bat to that area.

How many other people on this group have the same problem after being exposed to

Mold?

I am glad KC told me about the digestive Enzymes. Group...if you have not tried

them, I would sugest trying it. KC has alot of good ideas that really work.

Why does the Immune System crash after being exposed to Stachybotrys or other

mols? Anyone know?

Thanks,

Marcie

Healthier4All <Healthier4All@...> wrote:

Hi Marcie:

Sorry for the delay; my keyboard died on me (my fault, I spilled hibiscus

tea on it) and couldn't send emails until I got a new one!

I'm sorry you are not doing well; please be careful what you use even

thought it is alternative. With you receiving IVIG, you must be very careful

of taking anything which could alter its action in your body. You have to

know how the IVIG is metabolized in your body, exactly what it does, what

part of your immune system it stimulates and be careful to not select any

alternative or OTC/Rx drugs that would conflict with its intended actions.

For example, we know those receiving chemo for cancer should not use

Echinacea and a few other popular OTC herbs because they would alter how

they chemo is cleared through the P450 liver enzymes. That's something a

lay person cannot easily determine.

FYI I'm an herbalist and don't use nor would recommend Garden of Life's

products like fungal defense and their other products but that's only my

humble opinion. I don't trust them or any products that have " proprietary

ingredients " . This company grew too quickly too fast mostly due to some

remarkable marketing skills and they are very costly.

What brand of Oregano Oil did you use? Was it 100% pure essential oils of

Oregano or the diluted form? FYI, I wouldn't use it internally and am not

as ill as you. I would recommend topical use only diluting the pure oregano

oil perhaps 10 drops to an ounce of culinary oil and rubbing that on the

sole of your feet or using some other " antifungal pure essential oils (there

are others that have been used for fungal infections, a www.pubmed search

will pull them up) or try rubbing some crushed fresh garlic on the bottom of

your feet; the garlic will be absorbed through your skin into the blood

stream and into your lungs (seriously). I used to demonstrate to my clients

the importance of being aware that our skin does absorb much that touches it

and would have them crush some fresh garlic, rub on the bottom of their feet

and within 1/2 hour they would exhale the garlic. That woke them up!

In my humble opinion, the fungal defense is not appropriate for you and is

too strong for you; you are too weak, too immune suppressed, and I have a

feeling your digestive functions are not good. Your poor intestines are

probably compromised, you probably have leaky gut and hard time digesting

and assimilating foods plus food allergies. This formula is not for you.

True clinical herbalism is not matching an herb or formula to a symptom, but

taking a long medical and diagnostic intake and assessing the vitality and

constitution, lifestyle, emotions and ability of the client and then

suggesting some starting points which the client is able to comply with. We

need to take into account the constitution of the person meaning is the

person basically hot, cold, dry or moist. Many formulas especially the

detox formulas are cold and drying in nature and if we give those formulas

to someone who is cold in nature and dry we can further damage their

constitution. We also need to take into consideration the environment where

the client lives. Is it hot and dry or hot and damp, cold and dry or cold

and damp. Herbs actions are changed by the environment. I'm sure you have

experienced that yourself such as when the weather changes dramatically and

the food you could eat before the change now causes adverse effects for you.

Same with herbs. I recall when I first became ill from the mold, I couldn't

tolerate anything sweet, sticky, mucous forming or foods that are considered

damp. I loved sweet potatoes but couldn't eat them.

I become so upset when all I read is " detox " but people are too toxic and

too weak to detox until we first build them up and then slowly begin the

detox process. I'm sure your Sister in the health food store means well and

is trying to help you; however she needs to understand your specific

condition and what is safe and specific for you not for a " symptom " . Hope

this makes sense to you.

You shared " I have spots in my lungs and body and they are Granulomatous

lesions. They were diagnosed after a Cat Scan " . When did you have the Cat

Scan and what did our physician say about these lesions and what protocols

where suggested?

You might consider starting a daily food/symptom log, record everything you

eat and drink and record your systems, no matter how insignificant. Try to

determine your food intolerances and find foods that agree with your body so

you body can get the nutrients it needs. Its time consuming, difficult but

can be done especially since you do not have the finances for appropriate

medical care.

Marcie you are a fighter, you are pro-active; take that energy you have and

focus it 100% on YOU for the time being, researching your illness, the

action of the IVIG you are taking, how it affects your body, what substances

and foods you can use that will compliment the IVIG protocols, put on your

detective hat, get to know your body and how it responds to different foods

and environments, record all that.......focus your energy on you, your

healing and then you will have the health and strength to help others and

become pro-active again for other causes. You need to come first right now.

Email if you have questions,

Rosie

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> Thanks Rosie.....you were thinking clearer than I was. :-)

> Marcie

>

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Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker in Pocomoke, MD. CSM is a powder you mix with water or

juice then drink 4X a day to rid your system of toxins. I've been a paitent

for 2 yrs. and believe me it works!! I saved an excellent posting from just

a few days ago on how it works and I couldn't explain it better myself.

The CSM molecular chain binds to water on one end (which is the water you

mix it with), and with fat on the other end - which is where the toxins are for

a while, as they cycle through your system. Once, bound, they form a

molecule too large to be reabsorbed through the intestinal wall, and go

straight

into the sewer where normal people would have sent them ages ago. It doesn't

pass through your kidneys or bladder at all. For that to happen, the whole

molecule would have to be reabsorbed, and that's exactly what doesn't happen.

(It

might reabsorb some of the water, but I don't think it can grab the water

melocules that are still bound to the CSM.)

You can observe the first part of this when you mix CSM powder in a clear

glass or bottle of water. The CSM will mix (grudgingly), but then settle to the

bottom. It won't stay suspended for long, because it's heavier and bigger

than water molecules. I haven't tried mixing it with water AND liquified fat of

some kind, but I know that if you did, it would bind with some of each, and

you'd then have something even bigger and heavier that would sink to the

bottom of the oil as well and the excess water would float in the middle. Heh -

where's Mr. Wizard when you need him?

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Dr. Shoemaker is in Pocomoke, MD and below is an explaination of how CSM

works. It was a posting just a few days ago. The CSM molecular chain binds to

water on one end (which is the water you mix it with), and with fat on the

other end - which is where the toxins are for a while, as they cycle through

your system. Once, bound, they form a molecule too large to be reabsorbed

through the intestinal wall, and go straight into the sewer where normal people

would have sent them ages ago. It doesn't pass through your kidneys or bladder

at all. For that to happen, the whole molecule would have to be reabsorbed,

and that's exactly what doesn't happen. (It might reabsorb some of the water,

but I don't think it can grab the water melocules that are still bound to the

CSM.)

You can observe the first part of this when you mix CSM powder in a clear

glass or bottle of water. The CSM will mix (grudgingly), but then settle to the

bottom. It won't stay suspended for long, because it's heavier and bigger

than water molecules. I haven't tried mixing it with water AND liquified fat

of some kind, but I know that if you did, it would bind with some of each, and

you'd then have something even bigger and heavier that would sink to the

bottom of the oil as well and the excess water would float in the middle. Heh -

where's Mr. Wizard when you need him?

In a message dated 10/31/05 10:20:57 AM Atlantic Standard Time,

ag9046@... writes:

Since I'm relatively new to mold illnesses - I wonder who Dr. Shoemaker is

(and where). I live in north Florida. Also, why is CSM effective?

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