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Hello Everyone. I am new to the site and seeking information on testing

for mold. I live on the ALabama Gulf Coast and hurricane season has

certainly taken its told with mold. Ha, I just made a rhyme, lol. I am

concerned with the leaky roofs in our area, as this will soon be a

serious issue. My Mother's home for example has a damp ceiling. She is

both elderly and handicapped and very fearful of mold. I need some

guidance as to how to help her. The following questions will help get

me started in the right direction. Thank you so much for this site and

all your efforts in helping us dealing with mold. (1) Who do you call

for mold testing? (2) Is this an expensive procedure? (3) What

procedure should I expect from the testing agency? (4) I purchased a

dehumidifier, will this help control the mold? (5) I have been told,

the only way to rid of mold, is to rip out and replace the wood or

material infected.

Sorry for so many questions but I have to start somewhere, smile.

Thank you very much;

Flip;

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Hi Serena;

Thank you for your kind reply and a pleasant welcome.

As for illness, the answer I think would be yes. I am a heart

patient, had 5 bypasses last November and just got out of the

hospital on Wenesday for shortness of breath, inability to

concentrate and fatigue. But I have since noticed that these

symptom's might be common with other family members. After four days

in the hospital it was discovered I had Heart flutter, my heart was

out of rythym?. I was treated, with my heart now in rythym and

wearing a heart monitor but not all the symptoms are gone. I am

wondering if this might have more to do with (possible) mold.

Just trying to cover all the bases. Sorry to be so long winded but as

I mentioned, I am short of breath, lol. Kidding, only kidding, smile.

Thanks;

Flip;

--- In , SERENA EDWARDS <pushcrash@y...>

wrote:

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> Hi, Flip. Welcome! There are several testing and remediation

experts who inhabit this board, so I'll leave your questions to them.

Please invite anyone else you know with the mold problems to join us.

There are close to 1,600 of us here, some with family on the Gulf

Coast. I know we'd hate to think we've been through all of this and

couldn't use what we know to help you all out.

>

> The first step is to stay out of the moldy environment to protect

your health while you figure out exactly how you want to proceed. Not

everyone will react to it, but for those who do, it's a real misery.

Is anyone in your family presently experiencing any illness?

>

>

>

>

> Serena

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Hey Flip,

Yes, some of those symptoms sound very familiar. You can get a

screening for toxin-mediated illness for under $10 at

www.chronicneurotoxins.com. (I know - unbelievably cheap, but it works

great, and you can do it all online.) If it comes up positive, you'll

be wanted to go further and learn some more about it.

You might also like to check the files section of the board. There's at

least one good file there on when and how to test a building if you

need to.

Best to You and Yours,

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Hi Flip, Some of your symptoms are very similar to my story. I was taken to

hospital thinking I was having a heart attack. I had shortness of breath,

racing heart, my heart felt like it was skipping beats, numbness and tingling.

They performed tests in the ER but they were negative for a heart attack!

Drs. were really stumped SO they decided I needed a Heart Cath!!!! The

procedure was done the next day and it proved that my heart was in EXCELLENT

condition. Returned to my Family Dr. who decided it must be stress & was given

an

antidepressant!! To make a long story short I didn't have ANY heart problems

BUT

I do have a toxic illness from exposure to the mold in my school!

I am a patient of Dr. Shoemaker and I also recommend that you take the VCS

test at _www.chronicneurotoxins.com_ (http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com) .

It's only $8.95 and highly accurate!! You will get instant results and is used

as a first screening for toxins in your system. If you have any problems

taking it just let me know I'll be happy to walk you through it.

Sue

But I have since noticed that these

symptom's might be common with other family members. After four days

in the hospital it was discovered I had Heart flutter, my heart was

out of rythym?. I was treated, with my heart now in rythym and

wearing a heart monitor but not all the symptoms are gone. I am

wondering if this might have more to do with (possible) mold.

Just trying to cover all the bases. Sorry to be so long winded but as

I mentioned, I am short of breath, lol. Kidding, only kidding, smile.

Thanks;

Flip;

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Hello Sue and thank you for your kind reply. I am sure you are aware

of this but I need to say it anyways. Keep in mind, I am a heart

patient with bypass surgery. I had 80% blockage resulting in 5

bypasses. I know this site is all about mold but please don't ignore

the warning signs of a possible heart condition. You never know. I

just thought I should mention that in case someone else reading this

might have similar symptoms and assume it is mold, ignoring the signs

of a heart condition. I hope that makes sense. I am not that familiar

with how to use this message board, so please forgive me as I am

learning.

Good day;

Flip;

>

>

> Hi Flip, Some of your symptoms are very similar to my story. I

was taken to

> hospital thinking I was having a heart attack. I had shortness of

breath,

> racing heart, my heart felt like it was skipping beats, numbness

and tingling.

> They performed tests in the ER but they were negative for a heart

attack!

> Drs. were really stumped SO they decided I needed a Heart

Cath!!!! The

> procedure was done the next day and it proved that my heart was in

EXCELLENT

> condition. Returned to my Family Dr. who decided it must be stress

& was given an

> antidepressant!! To make a long story short I didn't have ANY

heart problems BUT

> I do have a toxic illness from exposure to the mold in my school!

>

> I am a patient of Dr. Shoemaker and I also recommend that you

take the VCS

> test at _www.chronicneurotoxins.com_

(http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com) .

> It's only $8.95 and highly accurate!! You will get instant results

and is used

> as a first screening for toxins in your system. If you have any

problems

> taking it just let me know I'll be happy to walk you through it.

>

> Sue

>

>

>

>

> But I have since noticed that these

> symptom's might be common with other family members. After four

days

> in the hospital it was discovered I had Heart flutter, my heart

was

> out of rythym?. I was treated, with my heart now in rythym and

> wearing a heart monitor but not all the symptoms are gone. I am

> wondering if this might have more to do with (possible) mold.

> Just trying to cover all the bases. Sorry to be so long winded but

as

> I mentioned, I am short of breath, lol. Kidding, only kidding,

smile.

> Thanks;

> Flip;

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I used the do-it-youself kits that are about $10 at home depot and

other stores. The price is a little misleading as it cost another

$30 to send it to their lab for analysis. I think the kit would

have worked better if I had visible mold growth somewhere, I used

what they called the settling method, where I let the dish sit for

an hour in the rooms I was testing. The I covered them and let the

stuff grow. None of the locations showed elevated levels or

indicated any issues. They did send a report of what types of molds

were found in each place I tested and the potential efftects of

them. I guess for the relatively low price, at least it gave me a

starting point.

>

> I have read a few of the links supplied at the sickbuildigs

website

> that refer to testing. I am leaning towards the home test kits .

I

> want to test my brothers house in fortlauderdale for possible cross

> contamination from things (books, paintings) I have brought over

> there from my contaminated house.

>

> We cleaned everything very thouroughly but from what I have

read

> on this sight and my experience I am strarting to worry I may have

> done my brother a huge diservice.

> any recomendations from anyone that has used any of these

services

> and kits would be great;ly appreciated.

>

>

> Christ

>

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Rhonda,

There are actually somewhere around 100,000 kinds of mold and around

1,500,000 including species and other fungi. Color isn't the primary

identification because it's somewhat dependant upon the environment.

For example, Stachybotrys is the " black mold " of concern but there

are about 20,000 different black molds. Stachy is actually greenish-

black in color. I've also seen Stachy that is white. (Probably

because bleach was used and it removed the dark pigment). I recently

showed five slides to a group of consultants and asked them to pick

out the Stachybotrys. They failed miserably, with only one person

coming close by saying that three of the five were. They were 60%

right because all five of them were Stachy. You can't tell by looking

at the visible colonies and definitely not by color alone.

EPA says any mold can be a problem for someone that is sensitized to

it. That is the trick: Are you reacting to it? Is that what you are

reacting to? If so, why do we need to know what it is before you act?

(Legal and medical reasons, perhaps). The need to remove and the

removal techniques are the same for all molds. It doesn't change with

the type of mold.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> If there are 1000's of molds, what colors are all of them?

>

> Rhonda

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When I went to www.iicr.org it took me ot Muslim TV.

Rhonda

--- In , " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@h...>

wrote:

>

> ,

>

> In addition to the links, check the archives for info on testing.

> Myself and others have posted extensively about the pluses and

> minuses of testing yourself and with professionals. Also, download

> and read the EPA documents on mold starting with Mold Remediation

for

> Schools and Commercial Buildings. (Free at www.epa.gov/iaq/molds)

> Now, some general info and then I'll address your specific

question.

>

> What you test, why you test, how you test and where you send the

> samples all needs to be part of a carefully crafted plan. If the

mold

> is visible testing isn't necessary to prove there is mold but you

may

> want to for specific legal or medical reasons. Then - and this is

a

> big one - the results have to be interpreted. Because there is no

> exposure level to compare the results to, the interpretation is

> critical. Who does that and on what basis? And what do you then

need

> to do? And how?

>

> Yes, the home test kits can be a starting point, but that is all.

> Even then how do you interpret the data? The lab certainly can't

> because they don't know the what, why and how (above). And all

this

> is relative to your susceptibility.

>

> Furthermore, you can be non-allergic to mold but otherwise

reactive

> to the spores and its components. You could also be reacting to

the

> many other components that are not detected by sampling. Home

> sampling only detects spores that are alive, a small portion of

what

> is usually present. Beware of negative results that are false!

>

> In your case, however, you have a specific question you want

> answered: Did you cross-contaminate when you brought your things

to

> your brother's house?

>

> There are two ways to answer that question:

>

> 1) Experience: After you cleaned your things, are you still

reacting

> to them? Are you or they reacting in his house now but weren't

> before? If not, then you didn't cross-contaminate. Save your $10 +

> $30.

>

> 2) Testing: You can sample your house and some possesions to which

> you previously reacted to identify the types of mold. AND, sample

> your brothers house. If there are some " marker " molds in both then

> you did cross-contaminate. (By " marker " I mean something other

than

> the usual Penisillium, Cladosporium, etc that are everywhere).

> However, if no one is reacting, who cares? You removed the molds -

> and what ever else was removed along with the mold - and didn't

cross-

> contaminate.

>

> If none of this applies, find a professional. Good starting points

> are www.iaqa.org, www.iicr.org, or for ducts at www.nadca.com.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

> -----

> > I have read a few of the links supplied at the sickbuildigs

website

> > that refer to testing. I am leaning towards the home test

kits . I

> > want to test my brothers house in fortlauderdale for possible

cross

> > contamination from things (books, paintings) I have brought over

> > there from my contaminated house.

> >

> > We cleaned everything very thouroughly but from what I have

read

> > on this sight and my experience I am strarting to worry I may

have

> > done my brother a huge diservice.

> > any recomendations from anyone that has used any of these

services

> > and kits would be great;ly appreciated.

> >

> >

> > Christ

> >

> >

> >

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Interesting, Carl. Were they looking at magnified samples, or just with the

naked eye?

" Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote: Rhonda,

There are actually somewhere around 100,000 kinds of mold and around

1,500,000 including species and other fungi. Color isn't the primary

Serena

There is no such thing as an anomaly. Recheck your original premise.

...Ayn Rand,

paraphrased

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Ooops! Try www.iicrc.org

Carl

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> When I went to www.iicr.org it took me ot Muslim TV.

> Rhonda

>

> > > , > > In addition to the links, check the archives

> for info on testing. > Myself and others have posted extensively about

> the pluses and > minuses of testing yourself and with professionals.

> Also, download > and read the EPA documents on mold starting with Mold

> Remediation for > Schools and Commercial Buildings. (Free at

> www.epa.gov/iaq/molds) > Now, some general info and then I'll address

> your specific question. > > What you test, why you test, how you test

> and where you send the > samples all needs to be part of a carefully

> crafted plan. If the mold > is visible testing isn't necessary to

> prove there is mold but you may > want to for specific legal or

> medical reasons. Then - and this is a > big one - the results have to

> be interpreted. Because there is no > exposure level to compare the

> results to, the interpretation is > critical. Who does that and on

> what basis? And what do you then need > to do? And how? > > Yes, the

> home test kits can be a starting point, but that is all. > Even then

> how do you interpret the data? The lab certainly can't > because they

> don't know the what, why and how (above). And all this > is relative

> to your susceptibility. > > Furthermore, you can be non-allergic to

> mold but otherwise reactive > to the spores and its components. You

> could also be reacting to the > many other components that are not

> detected by sampling. Home > sampling only detects spores that are

> alive, a small portion of what > is usually present. Beware of

> negative results that are false! > > In your case, however, you have a

> specific question you want > answered: Did you cross-contaminate when

> you brought your things to > your brother's house? > > There are two

> ways to answer that question: > > 1) Experience: After you cleaned

> your things, are you still reacting > to them? Are you or they

> reacting in his house now but weren't > before? If not, then you

> didn't cross-contaminate. Save your $10 + > $30. > > 2) Testing: You

> can sample your house and some possesions to which > you previously

> reacted to identify the types of mold. AND, sample > your brothers

> house. If there are some " marker " molds in both then > you did

> cross-contaminate. (By " marker " I mean something other than > the

> usual Penisillium, Cladosporium, etc that are everywhere). > However,

> if no one is reacting, who cares? You removed the molds - > and what

> ever else was removed along with the mold - and didn't cross- >

> contaminate. > > If none of this applies, find a professional. Good

> starting points > are www.iaqa.org, www.iicr.org, or for ducts at

> www.nadca.com. > > Carl Grimes > Healthy Habitats LLC > > ----- > >

> I have read a few of the links supplied at the sickbuildigs website >

> > that refer to testing. I am leaning towards the home test kits . I

> > > want to test my brothers house in fortlauderdale for possible

> cross > > contamination from things (books, paintings) I have brought

> over > > there from my contaminated house. > > > > We cleaned

> everything very thouroughly but from what I have read > > on this

> sight and my experience I am strarting to worry I may have > > done my

> brother a huge diservice. > > any recomendations from anyone that

> has used any of these services > > and kits would be great;ly

> appreciated. > > > > > > Christ > > > > > >

>

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says under contstruction when I go into it.

> >

> > ,

> >

> > In addition to the links, check the archives for info on

testing.

> > Myself and others have posted extensively about the pluses and

> > minuses of testing yourself and with professionals. Also,

download

> > and read the EPA documents on mold starting with Mold

Remediation

> for

> > Schools and Commercial Buildings. (Free at

www.epa.gov/iaq/molds)

> > Now, some general info and then I'll address your specific

> question.

> >

> > What you test, why you test, how you test and where you send the

> > samples all needs to be part of a carefully crafted plan. If the

> mold

> > is visible testing isn't necessary to prove there is mold but

you

> may

> > want to for specific legal or medical reasons. Then - and this

is

> a

> > big one - the results have to be interpreted. Because there is

no

> > exposure level to compare the results to, the interpretation is

> > critical. Who does that and on what basis? And what do you then

> need

> > to do? And how?

> >

> > Yes, the home test kits can be a starting point, but that is

all.

> > Even then how do you interpret the data? The lab certainly can't

> > because they don't know the what, why and how (above). And all

> this

> > is relative to your susceptibility.

> >

> > Furthermore, you can be non-allergic to mold but otherwise

> reactive

> > to the spores and its components. You could also be reacting to

> the

> > many other components that are not detected by sampling. Home

> > sampling only detects spores that are alive, a small portion of

> what

> > is usually present. Beware of negative results that are false!

> >

> > In your case, however, you have a specific question you want

> > answered: Did you cross-contaminate when you brought your things

> to

> > your brother's house?

> >

> > There are two ways to answer that question:

> >

> > 1) Experience: After you cleaned your things, are you still

> reacting

> > to them? Are you or they reacting in his house now but weren't

> > before? If not, then you didn't cross-contaminate. Save your $10

+

> > $30.

> >

> > 2) Testing: You can sample your house and some possesions to

which

> > you previously reacted to identify the types of mold. AND,

sample

> > your brothers house. If there are some " marker " molds in both

then

> > you did cross-contaminate. (By " marker " I mean something other

> than

> > the usual Penisillium, Cladosporium, etc that are everywhere).

> > However, if no one is reacting, who cares? You removed the

molds -

> > and what ever else was removed along with the mold - and didn't

> cross-

> > contaminate.

> >

> > If none of this applies, find a professional. Good starting

points

> > are www.iaqa.org, www.iicr.org, or for ducts at www.nadca.com.

> >

> > Carl Grimes

> > Healthy Habitats LLC

> >

> > -----

> > > I have read a few of the links supplied at the sickbuildigs

> website

> > > that refer to testing. I am leaning towards the home test

> kits . I

> > > want to test my brothers house in fortlauderdale for possible

> cross

> > > contamination from things (books, paintings) I have brought

over

> > > there from my contaminated house.

> > >

> > > We cleaned everything very thouroughly but from what I

have

> read

> > > on this sight and my experience I am strarting to worry I may

> have

> > > done my brother a huge diservice.

> > > any recomendations from anyone that has used any of these

> services

> > > and kits would be great;ly appreciated.

> > >

> > >

> > > Christ

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Rhonda,

I just tried the link.It works and the site is up.Copy and paste it

into your address bar or just type it in.

KC

www.iicrc.org

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > In addition to the links, check the archives for info on

> testing.

> > > Myself and others have posted extensively about the pluses and

> > > minuses of testing yourself and with professionals. Also,

> download

> > > and read the EPA documents on mold starting with Mold

> Remediation

> > for

> > > Schools and Commercial Buildings. (Free at

> www.epa.gov/iaq/molds)

> > > Now, some general info and then I'll address your specific

> > question.

> > >

> > > What you test, why you test, how you test and where you send

the

> > > samples all needs to be part of a carefully crafted plan. If

the

> > mold

> > > is visible testing isn't necessary to prove there is mold but

> you

> > may

> > > want to for specific legal or medical reasons. Then - and this

> is

> > a

> > > big one - the results have to be interpreted. Because there is

> no

> > > exposure level to compare the results to, the interpretation

is

> > > critical. Who does that and on what basis? And what do you

then

> > need

> > > to do? And how?

> > >

> > > Yes, the home test kits can be a starting point, but that is

> all.

> > > Even then how do you interpret the data? The lab certainly

can't

> > > because they don't know the what, why and how (above). And all

> > this

> > > is relative to your susceptibility.

> > >

> > > Furthermore, you can be non-allergic to mold but otherwise

> > reactive

> > > to the spores and its components. You could also be reacting

to

> > the

> > > many other components that are not detected by sampling. Home

> > > sampling only detects spores that are alive, a small portion

of

> > what

> > > is usually present. Beware of negative results that are false!

> > >

> > > In your case, however, you have a specific question you want

> > > answered: Did you cross-contaminate when you brought your

things

> > to

> > > your brother's house?

> > >

> > > There are two ways to answer that question:

> > >

> > > 1) Experience: After you cleaned your things, are you still

> > reacting

> > > to them? Are you or they reacting in his house now but weren't

> > > before? If not, then you didn't cross-contaminate. Save your

$10

> +

> > > $30.

> > >

> > > 2) Testing: You can sample your house and some possesions to

> which

> > > you previously reacted to identify the types of mold. AND,

> sample

> > > your brothers house. If there are some " marker " molds in both

> then

> > > you did cross-contaminate. (By " marker " I mean something other

> > than

> > > the usual Penisillium, Cladosporium, etc that are everywhere).

> > > However, if no one is reacting, who cares? You removed the

> molds -

> > > and what ever else was removed along with the mold - and

didn't

> > cross-

> > > contaminate.

> > >

> > > If none of this applies, find a professional. Good starting

> points

> > > are www.iaqa.org, www.iicr.org, or for ducts at www.nadca.com.

> > >

> > > Carl Grimes

> > > Healthy Habitats LLC

> > >

> > > -----

> > > > I have read a few of the links supplied at the

sickbuildigs

> > website

> > > > that refer to testing. I am leaning towards the home test

> > kits . I

> > > > want to test my brothers house in fortlauderdale for

possible

> > cross

> > > > contamination from things (books, paintings) I have brought

> over

> > > > there from my contaminated house.

> > > >

> > > > We cleaned everything very thouroughly but from what I

> have

> > read

> > > > on this sight and my experience I am strarting to worry I

may

> > have

> > > > done my brother a huge diservice.

> > > > any recomendations from anyone that has used any of these

> > services

> > > > and kits would be great;ly appreciated.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Christ

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Thanks for the explanation, Carl. I had been wondering how that kind of

idenitfication gets done.

" Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

Serena,

I assume you're refering to the 5 slides of Stachybotrys. Three

slides were of the colonies on petri dishes and two were under

magnification, looking at the hyphae and the spores. This isn't

unusual because how they " branch " and form spores (morphology, in a

simplistic way) is the key. That's how they tell the difference

between Penicillium and Aspergillus, for example, on a culture plate

but can't directly under a microscope. They branch differently.

Think of looking at a forest and trying to identify the kinds of

trees from 1000 feet above. Then go to 100 feet. Even then some

species (as opposed to genus) won't be clear until you see when they

make seeds (sporulate), what the seeds look like and even, perhaps,

when and how they germinate. Very similar to identifying molds.

That's also why the lab analysts should be trained mycologists rather

than just being supervised by a trained mycologist.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

> Interesting, Carl. Were they looking at magnified samples, or just

> with the naked eye?

>

> " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote: Rhonda,

>

> There are actually somewhere around 100,000 kinds of mold and around

> 1,500,000 including species and other fungi. Color isn't the primary

>

>

>

> Serena

>

> There is no such thing as an anomaly. Recheck your original premise.

> ...Ayn Rand, paraphrased

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Photos

> Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events,

> holidays, whatever.

>

>

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As many people here have mentioned, though, including Carl, air

testing with microscopic examination of spores has some major

limitations. Especially with stachybotrys, which doesn't shed spores

most of the time.

However, tiny fragments of mold material - unidentifiable as to

species can and DOES carry lots of mycotoxins.. probably the majority

of them in any 'sick building' that has had mold growing in it for any

length of time.

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Works for me. But to skip to the actual page for referals, go to:

http://www.certifiedcleaners.org/

Carl

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>

>

> > > > > , > > > > In addition to the

> links, check the archives for info on testing. > > Myself and others

> have posted extensively about the pluses and > > minuses of testing

> yourself and with professionals. Also, download > > and read the EPA

> documents on mold starting with Mold Remediation > for > > Schools and

> Commercial Buildings. (Free at www.epa.gov/iaq/molds) > > Now, some

> general info and then I'll address your specific > question. > > > >

> What you test, why you test, how you test and where you send the > >

> samples all needs to be part of a carefully crafted plan. If the >

> mold > > is visible testing isn't necessary to prove there is mold but

> you > may > > want to for specific legal or medical reasons. Then -

> and this is > a > > big one - the results have to be interpreted.

> Because there is no > > exposure level to compare the results to, the

> interpretation is > > critical. Who does that and on what basis? And

> what do you then > need > > to do? And how? > > > > Yes, the home test

> kits can be a starting point, but that is all. > > Even then how do

> you interpret the data? The lab certainly can't > > because they don't

> know the what, why and how (above). And all > this > > is relative to

> your susceptibility. > > > > Furthermore, you can be non-allergic to

> mold but otherwise > reactive > > to the spores and its components.

> You could also be reacting to > the > > many other components that are

> not detected by sampling. Home > > sampling only detects spores that

> are alive, a small portion of > what > > is usually present. Beware of

> negative results that are false! > > > > In your case, however, you

> have a specific question you want > > answered: Did you

> cross-contaminate when you brought your things > to > > your brother's

> house? > > > > There are two ways to answer that question: > > > > 1)

> Experience: After you cleaned your things, are you still > reacting >

> > to them? Are you or they reacting in his house now but weren't > >

> before? If not, then you didn't cross-contaminate. Save your $10 + > >

> $30. > > > > 2) Testing: You can sample your house and some possesions

> to which > > you previously reacted to identify the types of mold.

> AND, sample > > your brothers house. If there are some " marker " molds

> in both then > > you did cross-contaminate. (By " marker " I mean

> something other > than > > the usual Penisillium, Cladosporium, etc

> that are everywhere). > > However, if no one is reacting, who cares?

> You removed the molds - > > and what ever else was removed along with

> the mold - and didn't > cross- > > contaminate. > > > > If none of

> this applies, find a professional. Good starting points > > are

> www.iaqa.org, www.iicr.org, or for ducts at www.nadca.com. > > > >

> Carl Grimes > > Healthy Habitats LLC > > > > ----- > > > I have read

> a few of the links supplied at the sickbuildigs > website > > > that

> refer to testing. I am leaning towards the home test > kits . I > >

> > want to test my brothers house in fortlauderdale for possible >

> cross > > > contamination from things (books, paintings) I have

> brought over > > > there from my contaminated house. > > > > > >

> We cleaned everything very thouroughly but from what I have > read > >

> > on this sight and my experience I am strarting to worry I may > have

> > > > done my brother a huge diservice. > > > any recomendations from

> anyone that has used any of these > services > > > and kits would be

> great;ly appreciated. > > > > > > > > > Christ > > > > > > > >

> >

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