Post secondary education

[Guest guest]

There is also Brookwood Community in hire, TX, a Non-Profit,

Educational, Residential,Work Facility for Adults with Functional Disabilities.

[Guest guest]

There is also Brookwood Community in hire, TX, a Non-Profit,

Educational, Residential,Work Facility for Adults with Functional Disabilities.

[Guest guest]

,

There is an adult facility more information at

info@... it's out of state.

--- Crawford <r_crawford@...> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,

>

> I am looking for services that are offered for

> people with disabilities (mainly autism) that are

> for after a person finishes high school and adult

> facilities. This is something I am working on for

> my Masters Program. Any help will be greatly

> appreciated.

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

=====

Stephania L. ,

Educational Advocate, Attention Deficit Disorders Association,

Southern Region

....meeting the challenge of Attention Deficit Disorders

....setting a pace for those who cope with ADD/ADHD

For more information contact boo_stephania@... or call (254) 628-7977

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

,

There is an adult facility more information at

info@... it's out of state.

--- Crawford <r_crawford@...> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,

>

> I am looking for services that are offered for

> people with disabilities (mainly autism) that are

> for after a person finishes high school and adult

> facilities. This is something I am working on for

> my Masters Program. Any help will be greatly

> appreciated.

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

=====

Stephania L. ,

Educational Advocate, Attention Deficit Disorders Association,

Southern Region

....meeting the challenge of Attention Deficit Disorders

....setting a pace for those who cope with ADD/ADHD

For more information contact boo_stephania@... or call (254) 628-7977

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

,

LIFE/RUN http://www.liferun.org and MHMR

http://www.lrl.mhmr.state.tx.us/ are all that is available in Lubbock.

Tonya

------------------------------------

Texas Federation of Families

Tonya Hettler

Trainer

thettler@...

Route 2 Box 181

Idalou, TX 79329

mobile: (806) 544-0347

http://www.txffcmh.org w-i-n/

------------------------------------

Post Secondary Education

Hello Everyone,

I am looking for services that are offered for people with disabilities

(mainly autism) that are for after a person finishes high school and

adult facilities. This is something I am working on for my Masters

Program. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

[Guest guest]

,

LIFE/RUN http://www.liferun.org and MHMR

http://www.lrl.mhmr.state.tx.us/ are all that is available in Lubbock.

Tonya

------------------------------------

Texas Federation of Families

Tonya Hettler

Trainer

thettler@...

Route 2 Box 181

Idalou, TX 79329

mobile: (806) 544-0347

http://www.txffcmh.org w-i-n/

------------------------------------

Post Secondary Education

Hello Everyone,

I am looking for services that are offered for people with disabilities

(mainly autism) that are for after a person finishes high school and

adult facilities. This is something I am working on for my Masters

Program. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

[Guest guest]

As we pull together information on post secondary education, it would be

nice to know if the programs have ever yet served a person with down

syndrome and a little about the course of education the people with down

syndrome did .. and if possible some way to follow up on th outcome.

It's almost 20 years since we went out looking for post secondary education

for Jan. Many of the programs we looked at:

College in Boston, NYU in NY city, New York Institute of

Technology on Long Island, Maplebrook in Amenia NY, Chapel Haven in New

Haven, Vista in CT, Riverside on Cape Cod, Jespy House in Orange NJ plus

some others which looked a lot like group homes and not schools

Of these, only Jespy house had any track record with people with DS.

Riverside had people with DS but was a very shallow 1 year program at that

time. Many were clearly unsuitable as we visited. Most viewed our visit

as interesting but not what they did. Remember that Jan carried the MR

label and the label they thought of themselves serving was LD. When we did

apply most gave us quick rejections and some didn't even acknowledge the

application.

Mitch Levitz was the one student with DS at Jespy when we started looking.

He also took Jan to her only prom, a date that appeared on the Jane Pawley

show. After some negotiation, Jan was admitted to Chapel Haven for a three

month trial period, during which they wanted minimal parental contact and

we went with that. She succeeded and opened the school to taking select

students with DS. Kingsley opened up Maplebrook, which had just

extended it's program to post-hi. A girl who had been 's far away

girl friend was the first (with another woman with DS) to open up

College. There were some issues there with isolation of the two with DS

from the rest of the students. , a gymnast who competed against

Jan and who was a great friend, if only at competitions open up the NYU

program. It was just as she entered that they announced that some other

department in the college wanted their space and that the program would

close in a year. That meant that they tried to cram two years into one and

the pressure was too much. Jan's friend Van Zoeren went to taft

Community college in Bakersfield CA. She was in one of the first classes

there, but that program took people with DS from the beginning.

These programs can be very, very challenging for our kids. It is an

environment where it is easy to fail. It was only Jan's stubborn drive to

be independent, as well as her cheerful people oriented personality that

got her through.

For those I know with DS who actually got through the programs, it greatly

increased the independence they have as adults, but none that I know are

able to completely cut the ties to regular support, whether it is from

counselors or from parents in the same role. Parents are often not good

because they often take away the independence rather than take the chance

and encourage it. That happens even when the parents are very supportive

and well meaning. Jan will tell you that she makes mistakes, but she

really wants to make as many life decisions as she can anyway.

So, what is the story on Clemson, University of South Carolina, Central

Carolina University, Carolina Coastal University, etc? Have they already

had students with DS? If so, what kinds of education is provided? Is the

environment supportive and safe for a person with DS without much worldly

knowledge? If they have had graduates with Down Syndrome, what are their

lives like and how much did the education really contribute. Also, how

many failures have they had and why?

Some of this can be seen in website and other promotional materials. The

real test is in knowing someone directly or indirectly and getting the

student's of parent's stories.

The adults I know well who were among the pioneers in these programs have

all done reasonably well in life, but there have also been many bumps in

each one's path. I have no regrets about sending my daughter to Chapel

Haven, but I was well employed and able to send both her brothers to

private colleges as well. I am sure that hers was the most expensive of

the three.

If we expected that even 30% of those with down syndrome should be in

programs like these, our education capacity is far far too low.

I am personally an advocate for in-community programs that are partly or

fully funded and open to all for whom they might be appropriate. These

need to be capable of meeting the extremely diverse needs of our students

who come with their own individual strengths and weaknesses and with

extremely varied background and home/job training. I'm starting discussion

on a small program in Mountain View California that might capitalize on a

set of low income studio appartments that may come in three or four years.

I have the executive director of an agency supporting our population

working with me. We are just starting. We need to find the education

component and to get funding. I'm more confident of the funding to build

the apartments than for the transition program. Wish us luck in the coming

year.

Rick