Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 --- In , " erikmoldwarrior " <erikmoldwarrior@e...> wrote: > > Imagine somebody trying to explain what a computer is to someone who > never saw so much as a light bulb? > They would fight you to the death - insisting that such a thing > could never be. > They would feel that they are perfectly right in what they are doing > and that it is YOU who are misguided and deluded. I read an account once by an anthropologist who was spending time in the tropics with an indigenous race, that had had no contact with the outside world. He was telling them about snow, and how, in the winter, it got so cold that the rain would turn to tiny little ices particles and fall over the ground, covering the landscape in a blanket of white. They thought he was making it up, like some stories you tell to children to get them to behave. They laughed, and told him it was just so ridiculous, it could not be believed. They had lived their whole lives and had never seen anything remotely like that, so they knew he could not be telling the truth. I am not sure about this, but this is what it seems like in my body. The mold exposure caused my extreme allergic reactivity. I had allergies before, but just the usual type. After the mold exposure things got really weird, and just kept getting weirder. I went to alternative practices to find relief, which helped, but with the mold exposure continuing, it was like trying to put a fire out with a bucket of water. And I know that allergy is an abnormal immune response in the first place. So your statement " It is a TOXIC REPROGRAMMING OF IMMUNOLOGICAL RESPONSE " makes sense to me. And according to recent posts, my life long asthma may just be from fungi in the first place. > > That's the only explanation I can see for people who otherwise > seem " human " , intelligent - and don't beat their pets, to treat us > so badly. > > They have grown familiar with 'allergies' and Mold Reactivity just > doesn't fit their model. You must have seen their brains starting > to smoke as they said " Well, it COULD be a severe allergic reaction, > up to a point... (but everything after that point must be mental) " > > They need a different conceptual model. > Dr Shoemaker provided it in Mold Warriors, but it's difficult to > comprehend - especially if they don't read the book. > > While there IS a component of allergy, that's not the portion of the > immune response that is troubling us so much. So it is necessary > to " shake them out of their trance " by challenging their model of > what precisely is happening. > It has been counterproductive to compliantly agree with the doctors > verdict and hope he revises his diagnosis before you drop dead. > Better to hit 'em upside the head straight off: > > " This is NOT an allergy. It is a TOXIC REPROGRAMMING OF > IMMUNOLOGICAL RESPONSE " . > > And just maybe, they'll start to worry that you might be making some > sense and go look it up to find out, before they look more foolish > than they already are. > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 For the scientifically inclined, there is a very nice graphic at http://www.immuno-sci-lab.com/news_11f.htm (not their mold related tests, but the biochemical pathways) that I saw yesterday that (to me at least) describes are some of the issues with mycotoxins.. There are a LOT of chemicals produced by molds, so I think that any generalization on 'what 'mold' does' is going to be impossible, (its like trying to say 'what chemicals do') - but in general, toxins in our environment often work in certain general ways.. Like by creating toxic metabolites that cause cell death.. killing some cells, or all sells, wherever they touch living cells.. Especially new growing cells.. Like the new cells that the brain uses to hard wire memories.. Or the rapidly growing new cells in babies new lungs.. One way I see it is that in a sense, they 'steal a bit of life'. They suck your life force.. Any toxin that causes cell death and DNA damage is basically taking some of your life.. And its also a bit like Russian roulette with cancer.. Because they damage your cells DNA. The poisoners love the idea that with toxins its impossible to prove '100%' that exposure to a certain toxin gave a given person cancer..which often doesn't show, and get diagnosed until years later.. But I have a serious problem with that kind of 'poisoners' logic.. Don't you? what a mess... On 11/8/05, erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote: > Imagine somebody trying to explain what a computer is to someone who > never saw so much as a light bulb? > They would fight you to the death - insisting that such a thing > could never be. > They would feel that they are perfectly right in what they are doing > and that it is YOU who are misguided and deluded. > > That's the only explanation I can see for people who otherwise > seem " human " , intelligent - and don't beat their pets, to treat us > so badly. > > They have grown familiar with 'allergies' and Mold Reactivity just > doesn't fit their model. You must have seen their brains starting > to smoke as they said " Well, it COULD be a severe allergic reaction, > up to a point... (but everything after that point must be mental) " > > They need a different conceptual model. > Dr Shoemaker provided it in Mold Warriors, but it's difficult to > comprehend - especially if they don't read the book. > > While there IS a component of allergy, that's not the portion of the > immune response that is troubling us so much. So it is necessary > to " shake them out of their trance " by challenging their model of > what precisely is happening. > It has been counterproductive to compliantly agree with the doctors > verdict and hope he revises his diagnosis before you drop dead. > Better to hit 'em upside the head straight off: > > " This is NOT an allergy. It is a TOXIC REPROGRAMMING OF > IMMUNOLOGICAL RESPONSE " . > > And just maybe, they'll start to worry that you might be making some > sense and go look it up to find out, before they look more foolish > than they already are. > - > > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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