Question

[Guest guest]

My 14 day brew is sour but the stevia fixes that problem in the second

fermentation.  I only do that for 3 days before I start drinking but I always

like it the longer it sits but I've not quite found the amount that covers our

needs and everyone else I supply without hitting it early.  I figure I will bump

up to 20 gallons this next go around.  Where will I put it all is the question! 

So, if we are drinking/selling it like that you know it must be good.  We

certainly want all the sugar out and so do the others that drink it.  I use raw

sugar for the initial brew and have done honey.  Honey is a little more

expensive so...I don't use it often.  My second fermentation with the stevia is

very fizzy, too!  I may try a small batch of 8 day brew.  I simply can not risk

any bad effects with the diabetes.  We have it VERY well controlled with diet

and I don't want to mess that up but if I test before drinking and then 2 hours

later I can see how

much it effects mine....may have to try that 8 day brew!  I only use 1 cup per

gallon of sweetener anyway.

[Guest guest]

How much are people selling Kombucha for?

Blessings,

Rob

From: Clements <lgcangel7@...>

Subject: Re: question

kombucha tea

Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 6:05 PM

My 14 day brew is sour but the stevia fixes that problem in the second

fermentation.  I only do that for 3 days before I start drinking but I always

like it the longer it sits but I've not quite found the amount that covers our

needs and everyone else I supply without hitting it early.  I figure I will bump

up to 20 gallons this next go around.  Where will I put it all is the question! 

So, if we are drinking/selling it like that you know it must be good.  We

certainly want all the sugar out and so do the others that drink it.  I use raw

sugar for the initial brew and have done honey.  Honey is a little more

expensive so...I don't use it often.  My second fermentation with the stevia is

very fizzy, too!  I may try a small batch of 8 day brew.  I simply can not risk

any bad effects with the diabetes.  We have it VERY well controlled with diet

and I don't want to mess that up but if I test before drinking and then 2 hours

later I can see how

much it effects mine....may have to try that 8 day brew!  I only use 1 cup per

gallon of sweetener anyway.

[Guest guest]

All of mine are $2.50 a bottle except my Fu KT...it is $3.00...I am in Arkansas,

if that makes a difference.

[Guest guest]

How many ounces in your bottle?

From: Clements <lgcangel7@...>

Subject: Re: question

kombucha tea

Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 6:14 PM

All of mine are $2.50 a bottle except my Fu KT...it is $3.00...I am in Arkansas,

if that makes a difference.

[Guest guest]

It's GT's bottles for now....

Re: question

kombucha tea

Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 6:14 PM

All of mine are $2.50 a bottle except my Fu KT...it is $3.00...I am in Arkansas,

if that makes a difference.

[Guest guest]

Dave is rather secretive about his process, but the assuptions some have made is

that he brews big vats that take longer, and the 30 days also includes the

secondary (in bottle) ferment as well as transit and shelf time. i am sure they

have a much more controlled environment than we do. our brew time can

vary tremendously depending on temp, amount and strength of starter, type of

tea, etc, etc. some brews are ready in just a few days, and some take 30 days or

more based on variations in all these factors.

as for which is better, you have to decide as there is no hard science on this

(though there are good studies, they often contradict each other!). i look at it

this way. modern science tells me that milk from a factory with cows kept in

captivity and fed what everyone else in the world considers trash, pumped full

of hormones and antibiotics, and then the milk is homogenized and pasturized to

make it " healthy " is better for me than fresh unpastuerized milk from a

local free-range organic dairy. i personally dont buy this propaganda, and i

also dont belief that factory " 30-day " KT is better for me than my own, be it 5

or 14 or 40 days. dont get me wrong, i do not use that analogy to say that GTs

is junk or not good for you, just dont get too hung up on advertising claims.

happy brewing

dl

 

question

Here's a question or 2 I have about KT:

GT brews his for 30 days...so it says on the bottle.

I've been seeing a lot of 5-8 day brews.

I brew mine for 14 days related to the fact there are diabetics in my home and

my second fermentation is with stevia only.

SO, is the 5-8 day brew super sweet?  Do you think GT is meaning he brews 2-3

times over 30 days?  Which way produces the most benefits?

[Guest guest]

I TOTALLY agree with every word you said!!  I was really just wanting see what a

few other opinions were.  I do wish we could get a study to see at what time the

highest benefits can be found in KT.

[Guest guest]

may i be a little nosy and ask where in AR? i'm an Okie so we are practically

neighbors and i travel regularly to Siloam Springs and Fort . i would love

to try your tulsi brews, as i do like the tea, but havent made KT from it. i

have tried Pau d' Arco and ended up with a not so good result, but that was this

summer when things got a little hot in our neck of the woods, and the heat may

have been the culprit, not the tea. i have some Fu tea but havent tried it yet

either.

denise

918-931-9600

Fax: 866-669-0231

Re: question

All of mine are $2.50 a bottle except my Fu KT...it is $3.00...I am in Arkansas,

if that makes a difference.

[Guest guest]

Bald Knob...what a name, huh?  I LOVE my Fu tea brew!  It is my favorite.  I've

used the Lemon-Ginger, Jasmine Chamomile and Raspberry Peach Tulsi teas.  I

really like those as well.  I am going to do the Passionfruit next.

[Guest guest]

it is my understanding that you can put stevia in the tea to sweeten it to your

taste, but it does not actually " feed " the beasties. they are  " secondary

fermenting " on the residual sugars left in the brew (and switching to an

anaerobic process to do so). the benefit of doing this in a bottle is capturing

the fizz while lowering the sugar content.

i love stevia, it is easy to grow if you ever want to try it, and you can buy

it in bulk (both leaf and processed) from Frontier Wholesale much cheaper than i

have found it anywhere else (way way cheaper than the packets, which are mostly

inulin fiber-so if you buy pure stevia, be sure to use a lot less than you are

used to!). if you use the leaf, dont steep it very long or very hot or it gets

very bitter.

 

question

Here's a question or 2 I have about KT:

GT brews his for 30 days...so it says on the bottle.

I've been seeing a lot of 5-8 day brews.

I brew mine for 14 days related to the fact there are diabetics in my home and

my second fermentation is with stevia only.

SO, is the 5-8 day brew super sweet? Do you think GT is meaning he brews 2-3

times over 30 days? Which way produces the most benefits?

[Guest guest]

I use Simply Stevia in packets which is pure Stevia and you don't use very much

at all.  I don't like the flavor of the green.  I have some here I've had for

years!  Thanks for the tip on a cheaper buy...I am ALWAYS looking for those!

[Guest guest]

Frontier Wholesale....when doing a search...are you talking about the Co-Op?  If

so, what's the membership requirements? 

[Guest guest]

yes you have to join the wholesale club but its only $10 (one time fee). call

800 669 3275 for info. they may have the form online. if not i could fax it

to you. if you order $250 or more you get free shipping, so we do this as a

buying club.

 

Re: question

Frontier Wholesale... .when doing a search...are you talking about the Co-Op? 

If so, what's the membership requirements? 

[Guest guest]

yes bald knob is great, i think i've seen signs for it when i head east on I-40

(along with Toad Suck - lol). you are still quite a ways from me, so i guess i

will have to try my own unless you make it over to eastern arkansas some time. i

bought a variety pack of Tulsi awhile back and liked all the flavors.

dl

Re: question

Bald Knob...what a name, huh?  I LOVE my Fu tea brew!  It is my favorite.  I've

used the Lemon-Ginger, Jasmine Chamomile and Raspberry Peach Tulsi teas.  I

really like those as well.  I am going to do the Passionfruit next.

[Guest guest]

...you are correct.

The stevia will sweeten the end product but will not feed the microflora....

Gayle

Re: question

Yes! You're the one who said about doing the second ferm. with stevia. I've

always been forcefully told on this list that that can't be done. :-) I've

never tried it, but now I will. That's always the best way. Gotta watch how

gullible one is these days. :-)

, from my experience of 5-8 day brews with a cup and a half of sugar at

70 to 72 degrees, my kt is not super sweet at all. In fact, if I let it go

for 10-12 days it is very strong and sour and seems to have all the sugar

used up.

Rodrick

[Guest guest]

My hubby works the gas fields and occassionaly is sent to OK and when he is I

usually drive over at least once so...maybe we can plan something in the

future.  Right now, he's working in the Toad Suck area.

Bald Knob is on 67 North of Little Rock. 

[Guest guest]

that would be great. if you ever come this way let me know.

KT brewer's unite!

dl

Re: question

My hubby works the gas fields and occassionaly is sent to OK and when he is I

usually drive over at least once so...maybe we can plan something in the

future.  Right now, he's working in the Toad Suck area.

Bald Knob is on 67 North of Little Rock. 

[Guest guest]

I can't see why not *so long as* you've already brewed with sugar. As

far as I understand the wee beasties will ignore the stevia from a food

point of view and it'll merely add " flavour " in a similar way to fruit

juices

(UK)

Rodrick Shank wrote:

> Yes! You're the one who said about doing the second ferm. with stevia. I've

always been forcefully told on this list that that can't be done. :-) I've never

tried it, but now I will. That's always the best way. Gotta watch how gullible

one is these days. :-)

>

>

> question

>

>

> Here's a question or 2 I have about KT:

>

> GT brews his for 30 days...so it says on the bottle.

> I've been seeing a lot of 5-8 day brews.

> I brew mine for 14 days related to the fact there are diabetics in my home

and my second fermentation is with stevia only.

>

> SO, is the 5-8 day brew super sweet? Do you think GT is meaning he brews

2-3 times over 30 days? Which way produces the most benefits?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Amen!

question

Here's a question or 2 I have about KT:

GT brews his for 30 days...so it says on the bottle.

I've been seeing a lot of 5-8 day brews.

I brew mine for 14 days related to the fact there are diabetics in my home and

my second fermentation is with stevia only.

SO, is the 5-8 day brew super sweet? Do you think GT is meaning he brews 2-3

times over 30 days? Which way produces the most benefits?

[Guest guest]

Yeah, that's what some of the others have been saying too. You're probobly

right. I still might like to try my own experiment sometime. I guess you'd have

to use stevia for the first fermentation too, to be sure that it really was

using the stevia and not just some of the leftover sugar.

Rodrick

question

>

>

> Here's a question or 2 I have about KT:

>

> GT brews his for 30 days...so it says on the bottle.

> I've been seeing a lot of 5-8 day brews.

> I brew mine for 14 days related to the fact there are diabetics in my home

and my second fermentation is with stevia only.

>

> SO, is the 5-8 day brew super sweet? Do you think GT is meaning he brews 2-3

times over 30 days? Which way produces the most benefits?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well Man,

I'm glad to hear you explain it. I don't think I ever heard the scientific

reason before. How could I know that it wasn't just an oppinion somebody had and

then told everybody else, and everybody just believed? :-) Your explanation

*does* make very logical sense. *Still* I might like to try it... " just for the

kicks. " :-) Are you comfortable with that?

What you are saying in short, is that stevia is a flavor, but has no nutritional

or caloric value.

Rodrick -- the nongullible experimentalist ;-)

PS. I'm not trying to say that anybody is gullible if they believe that stevia

doen't work. It makes very much sense. I just want to see what will happen.

Re: question

>

>

> I can't see why not *so long as* you've already brewed with sugar. As far as

I understand the wee beasties will ignore the stevia from a food point of view

and it'll merely add " flavour " in a similar way to fruit juices

> (UK)

>

>

[Guest guest]

There is more nutritional value in Stevia than in sugar for humans so it may not

be good for the initial fermentation but it is GREAT for adding sweetness to a

brew left to get rid of the harmful to humans sugar.

 

The stevia leaf contains

* proteins

* fibers

* carbohydrates

* iron

* phosphorus

* calcium

* potassium

* sodium

* magnesium

* zinc

* rutin

* vitamins A and C

* an oil that contains fifty-three other nutrients

[Guest guest]

The green stevia has some nutrients...but not the white stuff...it's as

processed as white sugar.

-Jenn

[Guest guest]

The green stevia has some nutrients...but not the white stuff...it's as

processed as white sugar.

-Jenn

[Guest guest]

Fine by me lad, I won't even go Nah nahnah nahnah Nah

:-))

B

Rodrick Shank wrote:

> Well Man,

> I'm glad to hear you explain it. I don't think I ever heard the scientific

reason before. How could I know that it wasn't just an oppinion somebody had and

then told everybody else, and everybody just believed? :-) Your explanation

*does* make very logical sense. *Still* I might like to try it... " just for the

kicks. " :-) Are you comfortable with that?

>

Yup. ;-)

> What you are saying in short, is that stevia is a flavor, but has no

nutritional or caloric value.

>

More or less :-)

> Rodrick -- the nongullible experimentalist ;-)

>

> PS. I'm not trying to say that anybody is gullible if they believe that stevia

doen't work. It makes very much sense. I just want to see what will happen.

>