Re: Toxic mold in breast implants

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[] Toxic mold in breast implants

> After interviewing Dr. Shoemaker on my radio show, I realized that

> many of the patients that come to see me from all over the United

> States with painful or deflated breast implants have toxic mold

> symptoms and indeed the pathologist says there is mold growing in the

> saline or there is a thick soupy fluid around the implant that very

> well may have fungus. This is kind of like having your sick building

> inside of you. They have abnormal VCS tests and labs that look

> identical to a toxic mold exposure. Some also have mold exposure in

> their homes so they may be getting a double dose of biotoxin. I am

> trying to fiqure out the difference between chemical toxicity with

> silicone, biotoxicity and environmental exposure. My worst patients

> have all three. I believe that biotoxins may be the smoking gun

> inside or around breast implants and the epidemiologists cannot make

> sense of it due to the HLA component. Of course, the FDA just

> approved silicone to come back on the market, but in my experience

> these patients get ill within about 3 years rather than 8 or 10 years

> it took for the old silicone implants probably because of the

> biotoxin component which occurs more frequently with textured

> implants. Some of the patients in the silicone studies have told me

> they developed symptoms of fatigue, muscle aches, mental clouding,

> hair falling out, shooting pains, numbness etc. only to be told by

> the doctors doing the study that their symptoms were not due to their

> implants. I called up and emailed one of the epidemiologists in DC

> to let her know about this with no response so I guess this

> information is not important to those with a political agenda. We

> will just make a whole other generation sick without ever bothering

> to figure out what is really going on.

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[Guest guest]

This is scary and interesting. Do you think they already had fungus

inside--and it adhered to the implant? Do you think something similar

could happen with other implants: teeth, knees, heart valves,

cataracts, or is it the saline itself?

>

> After interviewing Dr. Shoemaker on my radio show, I realized that

> many of the patients that come to see me from all over the United

> States with painful or deflated breast implants have toxic mold

> symptoms and indeed the pathologist says there is mold growing in

the

> saline or there is a thick soupy fluid around the implant that very

> well may have fungus. This is kind of like having your sick

building

> inside of you. They have abnormal VCS tests and labs that look

> identical to a toxic mold exposure. Some also have mold exposure

in

> their homes so they may be getting a double dose of biotoxin. I am

> trying to fiqure out the difference between chemical toxicity with

> silicone, biotoxicity and environmental exposure. My worst

patients

> have all three. I believe that biotoxins may be the smoking gun

> inside or around breast implants and the epidemiologists cannot

make

> sense of it due to the HLA component. Of course, the FDA just

> approved silicone to come back on the market, but in my experience

> these patients get ill within about 3 years rather than 8 or 10

years

> it took for the old silicone implants probably because of the

> biotoxin component which occurs more frequently with textured

> implants. Some of the patients in the silicone studies have told

me

> they developed symptoms of fatigue, muscle aches, mental clouding,

> hair falling out, shooting pains, numbness etc. only to be told by

> the doctors doing the study that their symptoms were not due to

their

> implants. I called up and emailed one of the epidemiologists in DC

> to let her know about this with no response so I guess this

> information is not important to those with a political agenda. We

> will just make a whole other generation sick without ever bothering

> to figure out what is really going on.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> This is scary and interesting. Do you think they already had fungus

> inside--and it adhered to the implant? Do you think something similar

> could happen with other implants: teeth, knees, heart valves,

> cataracts, or is it the saline itself?

>

KC had sent pix on this some time ago. Then I wondered the same thing you did

about the source of the fungus, and found more from an experiment where plain

distilled water and water extracted from an unused saline implant were placed in

dishes and cultured. The distilled water remained clear, while the water from

the unused implant grew fungus, and plenty of it. (Those aren't included below,

but you could probably google them up.)

Here are links to a couple of other pictures:

http://www.geocities.com/masked_wabbit422002/boob4.jpg

http://www.homestead.com/sosalines/explantedsalines.html

http://community-1.webtv.net/lany25/GlamourMagazineNov/

This, amongst other things, has raised many questions in my mind about how,

when, or if, the implant material actually acts as a barrier to the endotoxins.

Can the toxins migrate outside the implants without a rupture? We've had many

discussions here as to what, if anything, is a good barrier material in

situations where we suspect we're in an exposure situation or have

cross-contamination issues. I can only think that at least some types of

sealants really do work pretty well, or these ladies would not have survived

long enough to tell what happened to them.

I don't know it is like to be sick from internally-generated toxins, but I sure

know what it's like when they come from an external source! I can't imagine what

it must be like for those ladies faced with both. (And STILL they are being told

they can't tie their exposure to their illness. Doh!) Hopefully, some of them

will join us here and educate us about that. It makes sense to me that a moldie

is a moldie, regardless of the source of the exposure. They'll certainly be

needing to know what we have learned (are still learning) about avoiding new

exposures from indoor contamination.

I don't know about the other questions, since those types of prostheses aren't

filled with saline. I guess we'll have to wait for Dr. kolb to have time to

answer.

Serena

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[Guest guest]

--- In , SERENA EDWARDS <pushcrash@y...>

wrote:

>

Gross and fascinating. From reading the Glamour article I'd have to

conclude you just don't have sterile conditions because you insert

the implant and then fill it up...then again, why don't you find this

on all kinds of implants--knee and hip replacements, teeth,

artificial lens etc--I guess because you don't insert them through a

small slit in the skin, and then inflate them. There must be extra

danger of contamination that way. It seems less likely to me that a

woman's body already had microbes that found their way into the

implant once in the body and flourished there.

> --- In , " jill1313 " <jenbooks13@h...>

wrote:

> >

> > This is scary and interesting. Do you think they already had

fungus

> > inside--and it adhered to the implant? Do you think something

similar

> > could happen with other implants: teeth, knees, heart valves,

> > cataracts, or is it the saline itself?

> >

>

> KC had sent pix on this some time ago. Then I wondered the same

thing you did about the source of the fungus, and found more from an

experiment where plain distilled water and water extracted from an

unused saline implant were placed in dishes and cultured. The

distilled water remained clear, while the water from the unused

implant grew fungus, and plenty of it. (Those aren't included below,

but you could probably google them up.)

>

>

>

> Here are links to a couple of other pictures:

>

> http://www.geocities.com/masked_wabbit422002/boob4.jpg

>

> http://www.homestead.com/sosalines/explantedsalines.html

>

> http://community-1.webtv.net/lany25/GlamourMagazineNov/

>

>

>

> This, amongst other things, has raised many questions in my mind

about how, when, or if, the implant material actually acts as a

barrier to the endotoxins. Can the toxins migrate outside the

implants without a rupture? We've had many discussions here as to

what, if anything, is a good barrier material in situations where we

suspect we're in an exposure situation or have cross-contamination

issues. I can only think that at least some types of sealants really

do work pretty well, or these ladies would not have survived long

enough to tell what happened to them.

>

>

>

> I don't know it is like to be sick from internally-generated

toxins, but I sure know what it's like when they come from an

external source! I can't imagine what it must be like for those

ladies faced with both. (And STILL they are being told they can't tie

their exposure to their illness. Doh!) Hopefully, some of them will

join us here and educate us about that. It makes sense to me that a

moldie is a moldie, regardless of the source of the exposure. They'll

certainly be needing to know what we have learned (are still

learning) about avoiding new exposures from indoor contamination.

>

>

>

> I don't know about the other questions, since those types of

prostheses aren't filled with saline. I guess we'll have to wait for

Dr. kolb to have time to answer.

>

>

> Serena

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