Re: CSM and Removing spackle and paint

[Guest guest]

Hey there. First I want to thank everyone who gave me

their experiences with CSM. Sounds like anything

could happen. Great. LOL

Okay, I know people are going to think I'm crazy for

even thinking of doing something like this, BUT (head

in hands)....the landlord spackled and painted over

the mold etc. in my old bedroom. Is there any way of

safely getting those layers off so that the mold is

visible again so that the Department of Inspection is

forced to come out?

Aaaaahhhhh, Sharon, I can hear you screaming from

here. Loudly. I know, I'm still hanging onto the

idea of getting a settlement with the tips of my

fingernails.

Thanks for any ideas. FYI: I can't get the building

inspectors to come out unles they can see AND smell

the mold. Madness.

Harriet

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[Guest guest]

Quackadillian,

Sure you can put a couple of pictures in the photo section. There

are some that I have to remove because they take up alot of memory

and does not supply you with that much. So please be limited

with your pictures. If you are asking for someone to look at them to

determine what type of mold it is, that is impossible. Nobody can do

this without proper testing. I think Carl had mentioned that there

are 20,000 molds that are black and you can have the same mold

growing on the same surface with 5 different colors.

KC

> >

> > Harriet,

> >

> > Unfortunately, ignorance is the still rampant. But that doesn't

mean

> > we should let the ignorant should prevail. We have to educate

them.

> >

> > A little history to understand your building depts position,

wrong

> > though it is in my opinion. The first document to address the

mold

> > issue was the NYC Dept of Health guidelines. It was intended

only for

> > their own internal use by maintenance staff. Others adopted it

> > because there was nothing else.

> >

> > Their criteria for determining whether a homeowner or janitor

could

> > remove the mold or a professional was based on the area of

visible

> > mold. The first level was 10 sq feet. Later, EPA used the square

> > footage criteria in their guidance but they altered the

suggestions

> > and the sizes. Others followed suit. S520 did not use visible

mold at

> > all, choosing different methods.

> >

> > Now it appears that those responsible for the maintenance and

> > cleaning of buildings are FINALLY discovering the existance of

> > guidance documents. Unfortunately, they are interpreting those

> > guidelines to their own benefit rather than the way the writers

> > intended. NONE of the documents use sq footage to answer the

question

> > of whether or not mold needs to be removed. Visible mold only

> > addresses the question what procedures and methods are suggested.

> > They are also clear about the very likely possibility of mold

that is

> > too small to see or mold that is hidden behind objects or inside

> > structures.

> >

> > See page 16 of EPA's Mold Remediation for Schools and Commercial

> > Buildings - PLEASE, everyone, download this excellent document,

its

> > free at http://www.epa.gov/iaq/molds/mold_remediation.html

> >

> > Finally, just because they refuse to do things right, doesn't

mean we

> > have to give in. We may go down fighting but we should firmly

insist

> > that the available authoritative documents and guidance be known

and

> > followed.

> >

> > Carl Grimes

> > Healthy Habitats LLC

> >

> > -----

> > > Hey there. First I want to thank everyone who gave me

> > > their experiences with CSM. Sounds like anything

> > > could happen. Great. LOL

> > >

> > > Okay, I know people are going to think I'm crazy for

> > > even thinking of doing something like this, BUT (head

> > > in hands)....the landlord spackled and painted over

> > > the mold etc. in my old bedroom. Is there any way of

> > > safely getting those layers off so that the mold is

> > > visible again so that the Department of Inspection is

> > > forced to come out?

> > >

> > > Aaaaahhhhh, Sharon, I can hear you screaming from

> > > here. Loudly. I know, I'm still hanging onto the

> > > idea of getting a settlement with the tips of my

> > > fingernails.

> > >

> > > Thanks for any ideas. FYI: I can't get the building

> > > inspectors to come out unles they can see AND smell

> > > the mold. Madness.

> > >

> > > Harriet

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

> >