Re: Lab Tests to prove exposure?

[Guest guest]

http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com

and/or

http://www.immuno-sci-lab.com/

IF ANYONE KNOWS OF ANY OTHERS, COULD THEY POST THEM, and pros and cons of

the tests in every way they can think of..

Beth, GET AN AIR CLEANER FOR YOUR DESK AREA..

I recently bought a Whirlpool Whispure AP450 for our bedroom and it has made

a HUGE difference in how I feel..

I am still getting sick, esp. headaches in the evening, but it seems to have

cut down many of the worst daytime aspects of it.. (the burning throat,

eyes, etc.) Buy a BIG one, and put it literally right next to you at work.

Be advised, though, once they realize that you are being made sick, they

WILL figure out a way to fire you, though. So you might be wise to make some

kind of formal complaint to some health agency first, to protect against

that.

But then they will hate you.. Why don't you do the testing, (make sure to

also get samples of any visible mold and get that tested, following chain of

custody recommedations- collection and mailing by a disinterested third

party with documentation..) but at the same time, start looking for another

job, while you still have one.. Once you are out of work, its much harder to

find another job, esp. if you are not feeling super well..

Also, be aware that health insurance claims can spoil your chances of

getting jobs in many states, as the employers now can figure out sneaky ways

to look you up in the big insurance DB (forget its name) to see if you have

any health issues.. (for the same reason, health insurance costs - a lot of

businesses now have secret age policies - they basically refuse to hire

anyone over 40)

Genetic testing is coming, too, and with that a HUGE number of similar, very

scary issues.. Without some serious changes - much more than HIPAA - much

much more , people will get blackballed and whole families will probably

fall off the map, economically.. Read some actuarial magazines.. this is a

hot issue in the insurance world right now..

Its not a coincidence that people lose their insurance when they get sick..

Its the way they are designing the system.. Check out Edwin Black's work at

http://www.waragainsttheweak.com

Read between the lines.. Big code word " medical responsibility " - Hence the

big push by the GOP for 'medical IT'. The plan is to eliminate strategies

that spread risk around, and shift all the burden of pay from employer to

employee. Without the raises to pay for it. (People would need a LOT)

They are fighting a war against poor people, literally.

Look them up on sourcewatch.com. They know where their money comes from..

On 11/24/05, Beth <lizabet61@...> wrote:

>

> Several of us at work have been sick...sinus infections, head

> aches,muscle aches, flu like symotoms, bloody noses, generally feeling

> fatigued. I have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. I dont think thats

> my problem. Recently a 16 ft desk in the center of our workspace was

> replaced due to " swelling of the wood " When the workmen arrived to

> remove the desk, the access panels as well as the inside of the desk

> was covered in black mold. We had been complaining of an odor for over

> a year, as did everyone who came into our workspace.

> Since the new desks arrival things really havent improved very much.

> I am so tired of feeling this way, and am angry at my employer for not

> telling us about the possibility of mold exposure. (they had sent a

> maintenance worker in on a saturday to spray the interior of the desk

> with clorox months before we found out about the mold). They

> repeatedly deny any possibilty of mold in our workplace at present,

> say they have had it checked. I recently moved to a new department and

> my sinus symptoms improved greatly. I was transferred back into

> the " sick " area of the building for 1 week and have immediately had

> sinusitis again. Are there any tests that can be done to prove mold

> exposure? bloodwork cultures etc? We need help

>

>

[Guest guest]

The testing ordered by Dr. Johanning is through IBT labs:

http://www.ibtreflab.com/

You can have the blood drawn most anywhere and shipped to them. The

test numbers are as follows:

HP (IgG) Panel for BRI (building related illness) #1704.

IgE Panel for BRI #2409.

and

Stachybotrys Serology Panel #1713.

The tests total cost should be around $500 at last check. These

tests look in blood for antigens to certain molds. Although our

bodies may lack the ability to produce antibodies to cleanse the

biotoxins, we still produce antigens to the mold, and testing for

them can show exactly what you have been exposed to.

ContaminatedNJ

> >

> > Several of us at work have been sick...sinus infections, head

> > aches,muscle aches, flu like symotoms, bloody noses, generally

feeling

> > fatigued. I have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. I dont think

thats

> > my problem. Recently a 16 ft desk in the center of our workspace

was

> > replaced due to " swelling of the wood " When the workmen arrived

to

> > remove the desk, the access panels as well as the inside of the

desk

> > was covered in black mold. We had been complaining of an odor

for over

> > a year, as did everyone who came into our workspace.

> > Since the new desks arrival things really havent improved very

much.

> > I am so tired of feeling this way, and am angry at my employer

for not

> > telling us about the possibility of mold exposure. (they had

sent a

> > maintenance worker in on a saturday to spray the interior of the

desk

> > with clorox months before we found out about the mold). They

> > repeatedly deny any possibilty of mold in our workplace at

present,

> > say they have had it checked. I recently moved to a new

department and

> > my sinus symptoms improved greatly. I was transferred back into

> > the " sick " area of the building for 1 week and have immediately

had

> > sinusitis again. Are there any tests that can be done to prove

mold

> > exposure? bloodwork cultures etc? We need help

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My doc did many blood tests to see what I was reacting to, like the IgG and IgE

for several

different things I had problems reacting to. The ones for mold came back high,

while some

of the foods I could not eat had no reaction. There are reasons for this, and I

am still

allergic to the foods, even though the test came back negative. So it is very

important for a

doctor to maintain an open mind while interpreting the test results, even when

they are

well trained. As they say on CSI, " follow the evidence " .....

Allergy Associates has an arguably better toxicologist on staff than Mayo Clinic

does. And

their tests are cheap by comparison.

It was the blood test results that confirmed I had those kinds of mold in the

home. I think

there may have been other kinds, but perhaps I was not exposed to them enough to

develope a systemic reaction to them. I also did not want to use any of this for

legal

purposes, just for my own health.

> > >

> > > Several of us at work have been sick...sinus infections, head

> > > aches,muscle aches, flu like symotoms, bloody noses, generally

> feeling

> > > fatigued. I have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. I dont think

> thats

> > > my problem. Recently a 16 ft desk in the center of our workspace

> was

> > > replaced due to " swelling of the wood " When the workmen arrived

> to

> > > remove the desk, the access panels as well as the inside of the

> desk

> > > was covered in black mold. We had been complaining of an odor

> for over

> > > a year, as did everyone who came into our workspace.

> > > Since the new desks arrival things really havent improved very

> much.

> > > I am so tired of feeling this way, and am angry at my employer

> for not

> > > telling us about the possibility of mold exposure. (they had

> sent a

> > > maintenance worker in on a saturday to spray the interior of the

> desk

> > > with clorox months before we found out about the mold). They

> > > repeatedly deny any possibilty of mold in our workplace at

> present,

> > > say they have had it checked. I recently moved to a new

> department and

> > > my sinus symptoms improved greatly. I was transferred back into

> > > the " sick " area of the building for 1 week and have immediately

> had

> > > sinusitis again. Are there any tests that can be done to prove

> mold

> > > exposure? bloodwork cultures etc? We need help

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >