Living between Plumes

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It was helpful to find that mycotoxins have somewhat limited range

and if I stay just outside a zone, I can live between plumes quite

easily.

This means that I cannot live IN a spore plume as every horizontal

surface is unacceptible, Hepa filters or not.

But having passed through a plume, as long as I have uncontaminated

clothing and a pristine sleeping place, I do well even though

everthing becomes somewhat contaminated.

Most of the mold toxins seem to die down within hours or just a few

days after being temporarily plumed.

Stachy appears to be an exception. Lasts a VERY long time.

Fortunately, I don't run into a lot of large, heavy, fresh,

exceptionally toxic Stachy spores as these tend to stay down low and

don't travel far from the colony.

But when I do locate such a place - I don't stay there long.

The point is that even though living out in the desert would be

ideal and make avoidance easier, if one is willing to pay attention

to spore plumes and practice avoidance and decontaminatio protocols,

it is possible to live in otherwise intolerable zones, in fairly

close proximity to plume zones.

This opens up a much wider range of options for me.

Not too many jobs out in the desert.

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[Guest guest]

, What is a spore plume & how do you know where they are because you cannot

see them? Loni

erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote: It was helpful to find

that mycotoxins have somewhat limited range

and if I stay just outside a zone, I can live between plumes quite

easily.

This means that I cannot live IN a spore plume as every horizontal

surface is unacceptible, Hepa filters or not.

But having passed through a plume, as long as I have uncontaminated

clothing and a pristine sleeping place, I do well even though

everthing becomes somewhat contaminated.

Most of the mold toxins seem to die down within hours or just a few

days after being temporarily plumed.

Stachy appears to be an exception. Lasts a VERY long time.

Fortunately, I don't run into a lot of large, heavy, fresh,

exceptionally toxic Stachy spores as these tend to stay down low and

don't travel far from the colony.

But when I do locate such a place - I don't stay there long.

The point is that even though living out in the desert would be

ideal and make avoidance easier, if one is willing to pay attention

to spore plumes and practice avoidance and decontaminatio protocols,

it is possible to live in otherwise intolerable zones, in fairly

close proximity to plume zones.

This opens up a much wider range of options for me.

Not too many jobs out in the desert.

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Loni Rosser < wrote:

>

> , What is a spore plume & how do you know where they are

because you cannot see them? Loni

>

During times of " mycotoxin release " : Weather Change - barometric

pressure and humidity release clouds of spores that increase ambient

levels geometrically and lay down spore accumulations wherever air

currents can take them.

If your neighbor has a sick building and decides to intall a cental

vacuum and blast the spores outside - and your window is adjacent to

their vacuum exhaust - your neighbors spores are now YOUR spores.

As I described in Mold Warriors, my primary irritant was disputed

by all doctors even though I could clearly feel that it was mold, so

I adopted the expedient of hiring a mycologist to accompany me while

I disturbed various mold colonies. When we found one that such

disturbance released a cloud of spores and I collapsed on the floor,

I said " That's the one! "

It was Stachybotrys - and that was the first time I heard the name.

I knew that I had felt this " Stachy Hit " in many locations and that

testing by conventional means was expensive, time consuming, and

would not give me a 'real time' indicator of exposure, so I took a

sample of a Stachy contaminated object to a pristine location and

trained myself to recognize the most subtle sensations of exposure

that I could perceive. In this way, I don't require a major slam to

recognize that I have been exposed, and conduct avoidance before my

immune system is upregulated to the point of being painfully

disabled.

Early recognition and consistent avoidance gave me the 'break' I

needed to get 'on top of the power curve' and enjoy a level of

recovery I had never been able to achieve prior to making this

concerted effort to consistently avoid these specific exposures.

Much to my amazement, my other chemical irritants ceased to be

triggers for an MCS response. Even more amazing, MCSers were less

interested and more intransigent than doctors in their denial of the

mycotoxin connection to some cases of MCS.

Surprising, to be sure, but as I've said so many times over the

years in this group: It's their loss and not mine.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks ,that is amazing that you have trained yourself to sense mold before

you are hurt. I appreciate the explanation. Loni

erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote: Loni Rosser < wrote:

>

> , What is a spore plume & how do you know where they are

because you cannot see them? Loni

>

During times of " mycotoxin release " : Weather Change - barometric

pressure and humidity release clouds of spores that increase ambient

levels geometrically and lay down spore accumulations wherever air

currents can take them.

If your neighbor has a sick building and decides to intall a cental

vacuum and blast the spores outside - and your window is adjacent to

their vacuum exhaust - your neighbors spores are now YOUR spores.

As I described in Mold Warriors, my primary irritant was disputed

by all doctors even though I could clearly feel that it was mold, so

I adopted the expedient of hiring a mycologist to accompany me while

I disturbed various mold colonies. When we found one that such

disturbance released a cloud of spores and I collapsed on the floor,

I said " That's the one! "

It was Stachybotrys - and that was the first time I heard the name.

I knew that I had felt this " Stachy Hit " in many locations and that

testing by conventional means was expensive, time consuming, and

would not give me a 'real time' indicator of exposure, so I took a

sample of a Stachy contaminated object to a pristine location and

trained myself to recognize the most subtle sensations of exposure

that I could perceive. In this way, I don't require a major slam to

recognize that I have been exposed, and conduct avoidance before my

immune system is upregulated to the point of being painfully

disabled.

Early recognition and consistent avoidance gave me the 'break' I

needed to get 'on top of the power curve' and enjoy a level of

recovery I had never been able to achieve prior to making this

concerted effort to consistently avoid these specific exposures.

Much to my amazement, my other chemical irritants ceased to be

triggers for an MCS response. Even more amazing, MCSers were less

interested and more intransigent than doctors in their denial of the

mycotoxin connection to some cases of MCS.

Surprising, to be sure, but as I've said so many times over the

years in this group: It's their loss and not mine.

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