Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Had a scope done today and when I asked about a possible fungal infection due to mold exposure, I was told that only people with HIV/AIDS that have a compromised immune system can get fungal infections. I explained to him that IS NOT possible that I have HIV/AIDS and 25% of the people at work are sick with bowel problems. rashes and eye/throat/lung infections due to mold exposure. He repeated that only people with HIV/AIDS that have compromised immune systems can get fungal infections throughout the body. I felt like I was beating my head against a brick wall. I asked if he could determine if I had a bowel fungal infection. He said no. He took two biopsies(spelling?)and told me I had to have a scope every two to five years. He totally ignored the fact that my IBS had cleared up a few weeks after leaving the workplace (the same as others at work). I told him that I took probiotics and yogurt daily now, and have not had one attack since leaving workplace. It became obvious that he does not know about mold illness. He said that he is going to write in his report that my illness (IBS) has apparently resolved itself after leaving the workplace. Also that others at work had it too. Another co-worker was there for the same scope day surgery as me (coincidence??). She was not aware that others at work were sick as she quit when she got sick. She had a lot of the " sick building " symptoms also. If anyone has any thoughts on what the doctor said, please respond. Can a person get a fungal infection throughout the body and not have HIV/AIDS? I think people can!! SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 , 1. >He said that he is going to write in his > report that my illness (IBS) has apparently resolved itself after > leaving the workplace. So this medical professional and scientist would rather believe in magic than believe you? And he will even put it in writing? He's a brave man. I believe because I had it happen to me 2 years ago. I switched to a large HMO for insurance reasons and that is exactly what they told me. I refused to take an HIV test and they categorized me as uncooperative. Not only did they not believe me but they didn't believe 18 years of medical records showing my recovery based on the use of anti-fungal Rx and diet to control candidiasis. They even wrote in my medical records to never put me back on the antifungals. I left so fast all they saw was a streak out the door. It cost me extra until my contract expired but my functioning was more important. 2. > Can a person get a fungal infection throughout the body and not have > HIV/AIDS? I think people can!! SW Certainly, at least in the digestive tract, which is what candidiasis or candidae is. Orin Truss and Crook wrote extensively about this since the 50s. (Google their names). And there is some evidence, from Japan I believe, that found the candidae yeast in the blood stream of some severely affected people. But I don't know if it was merely present or if it was growing and reproducing. Couple of clarifications. Although yeast in general and candidae specifically can be found in the environment, especially in damp indoor spaces, the fungal infection in the gut is rarely caused by external exposure. Candidae is already naturally in the gut of everyone and is a critical part of the natural symbiotic balance of the microflora. That is why the medical opinion used to be that it wasn't harmful because everybody had it. They didn't consider overgrowth. When HIV hit and AIDS victims began developing candidiasis, then they suddenly considered it life threathening, because the overgrowth of it was killing people. So now they say if you have it then you must also have HIV. Thus their insistence that I take an HIV test. Really scientific and logical thinking! :-) There is a difference between presence and infection. The human gut has a huge complexity of enzymes, bacteria, yeast and other stuff that are in balance. None dominates the other. But if the balance of the gut is shifted for whatever reason so that bacteria proliferate they call that a bacterial infection and they treat it with an antibiotic. However, if the balance is shifted for whatever reason - but often because of the overuse of antibiotics - so that the yeast proliferate, then that is a yeast infection and they should give you an antimycotic. Most docs usually don't recognize it and give you more antibiotics instead. You feel better because they do suppress the yeast. Until you stop taking them and then the yeast grows even more. Same thing happened with chronic sinusitis until Mayo discovered it was really fungal. No they prescribe antimycotics instead of antibiotics. Does some of this sound familiar? It's very similar mold in the environment. If the environmental conditions are shifted for any reason, but usually by moisture, so that mold will proliferate (mold growth) then the house has a mold " infection. " But killing it isn't enough because mold on the outside of the body acts differently than mold on the inside of the body. And the body to it. So you have to remove all of it, dead or alive, plus the other components such as glucans, mycotoxins, etc. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 I took Nystatin for the oral yeast infection but the bowel problem cleared up before that with the probiotics and yogurt. I also have something infecting my lungs but x-ray shows clear.Bad cough, wheezing and filled up. Was on inhalers but stopped them (bad side effects). I have discharge from my eyes which I think may be a fungal infection(waiting to see my eye doc). I was also asked if I had a HIV/AIDS test. Just to keep my regular doc happy I'll get it done. I already know I don't have HIV/AIDS though...LOL! Maybe everyone at work has HIV/AIDS?? LOL At least he believes that something at work caused this so I can quit my job now! Already offered another job elsewhere when I can go back to work (thank God) SW -- Re: [] Only people with HIV/Aids can have compromised immune systems??? , 1. >He said that he is going to write in his > report that my illness (IBS) has apparently resolved itself after > leaving the workplace. So this medical professional and scientist would rather believe in magic than believe you? And he will even put it in writing? He's a brave man. I believe because I had it happen to me 2 years ago. I switched to a large HMO for insurance reasons and that is exactly what they told me. I refused to take an HIV test and they categorized me as uncooperative. Not only did they not believe me but they didn't believe 18 years of medical records showing my recovery based on the use of anti-fungal Rx and diet to control candidiasis. They even wrote in my medical records to never put me back on the antifungals. I left so fast all they saw was a streak out the door. It cost me extra until my contract expired but my functioning was more important. 2. > Can a person get a fungal infection throughout the body and not have > HIV/AIDS? I think people can!! SW Certainly, at least in the digestive tract, which is what candidiasis or candidae is. Orin Truss and Crook wrote extensively about this since the 50s. (Google their names). And there is some evidence, from Japan I believe, that found the candidae yeast in the blood stream of some severely affected people. But I don't know if it was merely present or if it was growing and reproducing. Couple of clarifications. Although yeast in general and candidae specifically can be found in the environment, especially in damp indoor spaces, the fungal infection in the gut is rarely caused by external exposure. Candidae is already naturally in the gut of everyone and is a critical part of the natural symbiotic balance of the microflora. That is why the medical opinion used to be that it wasn't harmful because everybody had it. They didn't consider overgrowth. When HIV hit and AIDS victims began developing candidiasis, then they suddenly considered it life threathening, because the overgrowth of it was killing people. So now they say if you have it then you must also have HIV. Thus their insistence that I take an HIV test. Really scientific and logical thinking! :-) There is a difference between presence and infection. The human gut has a huge complexity of enzymes, bacteria, yeast and other stuff that are in balance. None dominates the other. But if the balance of the gut is shifted for whatever reason so that bacteria proliferate they call that a bacterial infection and they treat it with an antibiotic. However, if the balance is shifted for whatever reason - but often because of the overuse of antibiotics - so that the yeast proliferate, then that is a yeast infection and they should give you an antimycotic. Most docs usually don't recognize it and give you more antibiotics instead. You feel better because they do suppress the yeast. Until you stop taking them and then the yeast grows even more. Same thing happened with chronic sinusitis until Mayo discovered it was really fungal. No they prescribe antimycotics instead of antibiotics. Does some of this sound familiar? It's very similar mold in the environment. If the environmental conditions are shifted for any reason, but usually by moisture, so that mold will proliferate (mold growth) then the house has a mold " infection. " But killing it isn't enough because mold on the outside of the body acts differently than mold on the inside of the body. And the body to it. So you have to remove all of it, dead or alive, plus the other components such as glucans, mycotoxins, etc. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 did you have this because of the runs? Many mold people have that, but not because of an infection per-se- but from exposure to the toxins- if caught early goes away, especially with cholestramine treatment --- In , " msheeh02 " <msheeh02@e...> wrote: > > Had a scope done today and when I asked about a possible fungal > infection due to mold exposure, I was told that only people with > HIV/AIDS that have a compromised immune system can get fungal > infections. I explained to him that IS NOT possible that I have > HIV/AIDS and 25% of the people at work are sick with bowel problems. > rashes and eye/throat/lung infections due to mold exposure. He > repeated that only people with HIV/AIDS that have compromised immune > systems can get fungal infections throughout the body. I felt like I > was beating my head against a brick wall. I asked if he could > determine if I had a bowel fungal infection. He said no. He took two > biopsies(spelling?)and told me I had to have a scope every two to > five years. He totally ignored the fact that my IBS had cleared up a > few weeks after leaving the workplace (the same as others at work). > I told him that I took probiotics and yogurt daily now, and have not > had one attack since leaving workplace. It became obvious that he > does not know about mold illness. He said that he is going to write > in his report that my illness (IBS) has apparently resolved itself > after leaving the workplace. Also that others at work had it too. > Another co-worker was there for the same scope day surgery as me > (coincidence??). She was not aware that others at work were sick as > she quit when she got sick. She had a lot of the " sick building " > symptoms also. > > If anyone has any thoughts on what the doctor said, please respond. > Can a person get a fungal infection throughout the body and not have > HIV/AIDS? I think people can!! > SW > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 WhenI got red candida in the mouth and throat, my Dr freaked and wanted me to have $2000 worth of tests- nystatin did not prevent it and I also took diflucan- I also started loosing weight- of course she was very worried-asked me- why is this happening to you? Then I totally succumbed to the toxic effects of mold- she was very open to my diagnosis and gave me cholestramine> > I took Nystatin for the oral yeast infection but the bowel problem cleared > up before that with the probiotics and yogurt. I also have something > infecting my lungs but x-ray shows clear.Bad cough, wheezing and filled up. > Was on inhalers but stopped them (bad side effects). I have discharge from > my eyes which I think may be a fungal infection(waiting to see my eye doc). > I was also asked if I had a HIV/AIDS test. Just to keep my regular doc happy > I'll get it done. I already know I don't have HIV/AIDS though...LOL! Maybe > everyone at work has HIV/AIDS?? LOL > At least he believes that something at work caused this so I can quit my job > now! Already offered another job elsewhere when I can go back to work (thank > God) > SW > -- Re: [] Only people with HIV/Aids can have compromised > immune systems??? > > , > > 1. >He said that he is going to write in his > > report that my illness (IBS) has apparently resolved itself after > > leaving the workplace. > > So this medical professional and scientist would rather believe in > magic than believe you? And he will even put it in writing? He's a > brave man. > > I believe because I had it happen to me 2 years ago. I switched to a > large HMO for insurance reasons and that is exactly what they told > me. I refused to take an HIV test and they categorized me as > uncooperative. Not only did they not believe me but they didn't > believe 18 years of medical records showing my recovery based on the > use of anti-fungal Rx and diet to control candidiasis. They even > wrote in my medical records to never put me back on the antifungals. > I left so fast all they saw was a streak out the door. It cost me > extra until my contract expired but my functioning was more > important. > > 2. > Can a person get a fungal infection throughout the body and not > have > HIV/AIDS? I think people can!! SW > > Certainly, at least in the digestive tract, which is what candidiasis > or candidae is. Orin Truss and Crook wrote extensively about > this since the 50s. (Google their names). And there is some evidence, > from Japan I believe, that found the candidae yeast in the blood > stream of some severely affected people. But I don't know if it was > merely present or if it was growing and reproducing. > > Couple of clarifications. Although yeast in general and candidae > specifically can be found in the environment, especially in damp > indoor spaces, the fungal infection in the gut is rarely caused by > external exposure. Candidae is already naturally in the gut of > everyone and is a critical part of the natural symbiotic balance of > the microflora. That is why the medical opinion used to be that it > wasn't harmful because everybody had it. They didn't consider > overgrowth. > > When HIV hit and AIDS victims began developing candidiasis, then they > suddenly considered it life threathening, because the overgrowth of > it was killing people. So now they say if you have it then you must > also have HIV. Thus their insistence that I take an HIV test. Really > scientific and logical thinking! :-) > > There is a difference between presence and infection. The human gut > has a huge complexity of enzymes, bacteria, yeast and other stuff > that are in balance. None dominates the other. But if the balance of > the gut is shifted for whatever reason so that bacteria proliferate > they call that a bacterial infection and they treat it with an > antibiotic. However, if the balance is shifted for whatever reason - > but often because of the overuse of antibiotics - so that the yeast > proliferate, then that is a yeast infection and they should give you > an antimycotic. Most docs usually don't recognize it and give you > more antibiotics instead. You feel better because they do suppress > the yeast. Until you stop taking them and then the yeast grows even > more. Same thing happened with chronic sinusitis until Mayo > discovered it was really fungal. No they prescribe antimycotics > instead of antibiotics. > > Does some of this sound familiar? It's very similar mold in the > environment. If the environmental conditions are shifted for any > reason, but usually by moisture, so that mold will proliferate (mold > growth) then the house has a mold " infection. " But killing it isn't > enough because mold on the outside of the body acts differently than > mold on the inside of the body. And the body to it. So you have to > remove all of it, dead or alive, plus the other components such as > glucans, mycotoxins, etc. > > Carl Grimes > Healthy Habitats LLC > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 What the doctor first told me was that it was IBS. But it started after I started working there and went away after I left the workplace I took probiotics and yogurt also right after I left the workplace, that helped I think. Guess it wasn't IBS..LOL. I am just glad that it is gone!! I think that the doc's are willing to say that I got it from work because it started after getting a job there and went away after I left, other than that the doc is stumped. He can't explain why others who were normal, suddenly got the same symptoms as me and they also got better after quitting their jobs. It seems pretty straight forward to me..LOL. SW -- [] Re: Only people with HIV/Aids can have compromised immune systems??? did you have this because of the runs? Many mold people have that, but not because of an infection per-se- but from exposure to the toxins- if caught early goes away, especially with cholestramine treatment --- In , " msheeh02 " <msheeh02@e...> wrote: > > Had a scope done today and when I asked about a possible fungal > infection due to mold exposure, I was told that only people with > HIV/AIDS that have a compromised immune system can get fungal > infections. I explained to him that IS NOT possible that I have > HIV/AIDS and 25% of the people at work are sick with bowel problems. > rashes and eye/throat/lung infections due to mold exposure. He > repeated that only people with HIV/AIDS that have compromised immune > systems can get fungal infections throughout the body. I felt like I > was beating my head against a brick wall. I asked if he could > determine if I had a bowel fungal infection. He said no. He took two > biopsies(spelling?)and told me I had to have a scope every two to > five years. He totally ignored the fact that my IBS had cleared up a > few weeks after leaving the workplace (the same as others at work). > I told him that I took probiotics and yogurt daily now, and have not > had one attack since leaving workplace. It became obvious that he > does not know about mold illness. He said that he is going to write > in his report that my illness (IBS) has apparently resolved itself > after leaving the workplace. Also that others at work had it too. > Another co-worker was there for the same scope day surgery as me > (coincidence??). She was not aware that others at work were sick as > she quit when she got sick. She had a lot of the " sick building " > symptoms also. > > If anyone has any thoughts on what the doctor said, please respond. > Can a person get a fungal infection throughout the body and not have > HIV/AIDS? I think people can!! > SW > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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