Insurance Panels: to join, or not to join

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the subject line says it all - what is your advice and why?

if people think it is a good idea, I will compile the info and create

a file that will be available for list subscribers in the future.

Thank you,

Seth Hosmer, DC

Health & Performance Chiropractic

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Great idea.

Since most of us belong to one panel or another, it would be nice to do some

comparisons.

Here's a start, for what it's worth.

Good panels I belong to include Regence B/C, Providence, ASHN, ODS, and Aetna.

These pay promptly, warm bodies are easily contacted with questions and problem

resolutions.

Neil R. Cohen, D.C.

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From: " Seth Hosmer " <shosmer@...>

> the subject line says it all - what is your advice and why?

>

> if people think it is a good idea, I will compile the info and create

> a file that will be available for list subscribers in the future.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Seth Hosmer, DC

> Health & Performance Chiropractic

>

>

the subject line says it all - what is your advice and why?

if people think it is a good idea, I will compile the info and create

a file that will be available for list subscribers in the future.

Thank you,

Seth Hosmer, DC

Health & Performance Chiropractic

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I'd agree with that except for ASHN. The Re-imbursement is terrible. Better to have Kaiser than ASHN. Also I'd add Axis health care to accept Pacific Source etc..

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta St. PDX, OR 97211www.spinetreepdx.com

Re: Insurance Panels: to join, or not to join

Great idea.Since most of us belong to one panel or another, it would be nice to do some comparisons. Here's a start, for what it's worth.Good panels I belong to include Regence B/C, Providence, ASHN, ODS, and Aetna.These pay promptly, warm bodies are easily contacted with questions and problem resolutions.Neil R. Cohen, D.C.-------------- Original message ----------------------From: "Seth Hosmer" <shosmerhpchiro>> the subject line says it all - what is your advice and why? > > if people think it is a good idea, I will compile the info and create> a file that will be available for list subscribers in the future. > > Thank you,> > Seth Hosmer, DC> Health & Performance Chiropractic> >

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Seth: Good question. My buddy Karl, says you are a very high-level

athlete, so I would guess that you try to excel at every thing else

that you do. If you don't compromise in your athletic training, do not

compromise in your work as a doctor.

One thing I will say is that each doc has to decide what kind of

chiropractic do they want to practice. i.e. In my experience in the

last 12 years in Oregon it seems that most Oregon DCs practice as a

morph of musculo-skeletal/spine/pain/injury specialists with a focus

on injury recovery and/or short-term episodic pain-relief

interventions. If that is your gig too, then you could probably get

along and 'make a living' with most of the managed care companies.

I myself was a member of CHP and ASHN. It took me a few years to

finally come to my senses and dump CHP and it only took 2 weeks for me

to dump ASHN. I dumped these companies because (as of 4-5 years ago):

1-I did/do not like being treated like a 'manipulating technician' or

'physical-medicine sub-specialist'.

2-I did/do not like being treated like a mindless cog in an so-called

evidence-based machine.

3-The real art of chiropractic (the doctor's brain)was removed from

care when dealing with these patients.

4-The pay stunk , the pay was insulting in fact.

5- I MUCH prefer to practice more in a corrective-care and

maintenance-care model, rather than a pain-relief model.

ASHN is the Mcs of so-called alternative healthcare..and

unfortunately, many within and outside of chiropractic who would

never eat at Mcs have jumped on board this powerful, albeit

unsustainable beast.

CHP is perhaps like a local/regional ASHN-

wannabe... I would say they are the Burgeville of alt. med....not

quite as repulsive as Mcs, but still certainly not a

health-food/slow-food restaurant (despite their [burgerville's]

massive PR budget claiming otherwise).

I DO like and respect AXIS and what they stand for. And, like many

docs, we recently signed on with Regence. Time will tell, but it seems

that Regence is slowly headed to the dark side.

Keep your fees fair, do not compromise on your clinical

recommendations and develop as large a cash side to your practice as

you can. Examine the patient before you examine their insurance. I was

80% insurance /20% cash 9 years ago, now we are 38% insurance and 62%

cash. Much happier.

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> the subject line says it all - what is your advice and why?

>

> if people think it is a good idea, I will compile the info and create

> a file that will be available for list subscribers in the future.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Seth Hosmer, DC

> Health & Performance Chiropractic

>