Re: KC

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, have you read the information I sent to you? Does it make sense

or not?

-I am very familiar with provacation/neutralization for myself and my

clients the past 18 years.

-As I said in a previous post I'm also familiar with Dr Rea and he

has helped numerous people but not everyone.

-The doctor that helped me regain my health is an environmental

doctor but no longer a member of AAEM.

-This doctor continues to help numerous patients but not everyone.

-Provacation/neutralization made me incredibly ill.

-A combination of other treatments improved my health.

-We are all open to any idea or treatment that will help.

Please accept the fact that what worked for you will work for some

but not all. Also, what worked for them may not work for you. People

have been very clear.

There is a failure to communicate that I'm seeing here.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> I really don't want to argue on line about all these points

> on the

> subject of neutralization. Call me and I will explain it on the phone.

> A few hundred Doctors in the country are doing it. I am just making

> you guys aware that those of us who understand environmental medicine

> understand that it is an integral part of getting someone well. Patel

> said it unassumingly like she wasn't trying to ram it down people's

> throats! They were allergists etc studying the subject of

> neutralization. Really you are being too literal about every word I

> say. I am trying to expose you to that which you are skipping. And

> you can ignore me. I am just advising to look into what environmental

> docs consider essential. If you guys haven't heard about it then it

> is because you haven't seen an environmental physician. These are

> people who focus in toxic exposures of all kinds. Most of us have

> more problems than just mold. AAEM.com lists them all and I would

> first ask whether they do neutralization and Provocation by

> subcutaneous injection. I can't explain it all to you that is your job

> to learn about now. The first thing they usually test and treat for

> is inhalants (molds, danders, pollens, dust, feathers, trees, weeds,

> grasses), then there are foods, chemicals, mycotoxins

> neurotransmitters.

> Please don't be so harsh on line about this towards me. I am just

> giving you a chance at improvement that I have had. No one referred

> me for treatment and I was extremely upset about that-- even doctors

> who specialize in 'mold patients'! I thought it was ridiculous that I

> wasn't told who could really make me well! I want to let others have

> the chance to get well and be referred.

> I am not selling a product. I do not have to defend all of

> the

> practice of environmental medicine. Most of us think Rea will win a

> Nobel Prize and is unbelievably brilliant (as are many of his

> trainees). Not everyone gets well. But did you think that everyone

> would respond equally after having different levels of exposure to

> different pollutants? Give me a call after 10 am east coast time

> before 10 pm and I can tell you more if you want. Sincerely,

> Nagy 508 693 3048

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[Guest guest]

My dear friend who has come down with chem injury has been doing these

shots for years.

Her reactiins to foods/inhalantants etc., has diminsihed substantially.

What used to cause major reactions can now be tolerated wihout shots and

using a standard 4 day rotation diet.

I have seenher go from literally becoming paralyzed brcause of an reaction

to sitting and eating 1-2 pieces of shrimp.

She is still using neutralization drops for chems, that I dont think

will ever abate. At least now with chem exposures her legs do not give

out and we aren't picking her up off the floor.

I PERSONALLY think she tries to be *NORMAL* and thsat in itself is

presenting another set of symptoms. If she has to go somewhere she takes

accolade and is able to tolerate a very toxic environment. Trouble is

that med is analogus to taking a steriod, it masks the expsoures and wshe

can not take it for more than 3 days. As soon as she gets off the

accolade she immediately gets cold like symptoms with violent temperature

flucutations for 2 or so days. Then her wsystem calms down.

On the whole, the provacation/neutralization shots for *normal* allergies

tend to work.

Angel

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, LISA NAGY wrote:

> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:41:18 -0500

> From: LISA NAGY <lisa@...>

> Reply-

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> Cc: Nagy <lisa@...>

> Subject: [] KC

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> I really don't want to argue on line about all these points on the

> subject of neutralization. Call me and I will explain it on the phone. A few

> hundred Doctors in the country are doing it. I am just making you guys

> aware that those of us who understand environmental medicine understand that

> it is an integral part of getting someone well. Patel said it unassumingly

> like she wasn't trying to ram it down people's throats! They were

> allergists etc studying the subject of neutralization. Really you are being

> too literal about every word I say. I am trying to expose you to that which

> you are skipping. And you can ignore me. I am just advising to look into

> what environmental docs consider essential. If you guys haven't heard about

> it then it is because you haven't seen an environmental physician. These

> are people who focus in toxic exposures of all kinds. Most of us have more

> problems than just mold. AAEM.com lists them all and I would first ask

> whether they do neutralization and Provocation by subcutaneous injection.

> I can't explain it all to you that is your job to learn about now. The

> first thing they usually test and treat for is inhalants (molds, danders,

> pollens, dust, feathers, trees, weeds, grasses), then there are foods,

> chemicals, mycotoxins neurotransmitters.

> Please don't be so harsh on line about this towards me. I am just

> giving you a chance at improvement that I have had. No one referred me for

> treatment and I was extremely upset about that-- even doctors who specialize

> in 'mold patients'! I thought it was ridiculous that I wasn't told who

> could really make me well! I want to let others have the chance to get well

> and be referred.

> I am not selling a product. I do not have to defend all of the

> practice of environmental medicine. Most of us think Rea will win a Nobel

> Prize and is unbelievably brilliant (as are many of his trainees). Not

> everyone gets well. But did you think that everyone would respond equally

> after having different levels of exposure to different pollutants? Give me

> a call after 10 am east coast time before 10 pm and I can tell you more if

> you want. Sincerely, Nagy 508 693 3048

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