Re: Big Six Plus Germicidal Kills Black Mold

[Guest guest]

I did not see where anyone commented on this product. Is it the same problem

with killing the mold and spores but the mycotoxin is still harmful?

Bob

cavegrl777@... wrote:

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Press Release Source: eFoodSafety.com, Inc.

eFoodSafety.com, Inc. Subsidiary, Knock-Out Technologies, Ltd.'s Big Six Plus

Germicidal Kills Black Mold

Thursday November 3, 9:30 am ET

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 3, 2005-- Bowker, President of

Knock-Out Technologies, Ltd., a wholly-owned subsidiary of eFoodSafety.com,

Inc. (OTCBB: EFSF - News) announced today that laboratory testing confirmed

that the Big Six Germicidal product kills with 100% efficacy " Black Mold, " whose

clinical name is Stachybotrys chartarum. He pointed out the environmentally

safe product's potential usefulness in killing Black Mold in

hurricane-devastated areas of the Gulf Coast.

ADVERTISEMENT

Stachybotrys chartarum, also known as Stachybotrys atra, is a greenish-black

mold that can grow on material with a high cellulose and low nitrogen content,

such as fiberboard, gypsum board, paper, dust, and lint. Growth occurs when

there is moisture from water damage, excessive humidity, water leaks,

condensation, water infiltration, or flooding. Constant moisture is required for

its

growth. (Excerpt from Air Pollution and Respiratory Health Branch, National

Center for Environmental Health, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

(CDC),

www.cdc.gov.)

Aerobiology Laboratory Associates, Inc. (http://www.aerobiology.net/),

microbiology specialists that assist Indoor Air Quality professionals in all

aspects

of work-related environmental microbiology, completed the testing at their

St. s, Missouri laboratory facility and confirmed results that the Big Six

Plus Germicidal had a 100% kill rate on Stachybotrys chartarum.

The Big Six Plus Germicidal product, which is non-corrosive, non-carcinogenic

and non-toxic, is a " safe " solution to killing Black Mold. It can be used as

an environmentally friendly alternative to the typical methods of eradication:

commercially available chemical products and bleach solutions. For larger

affected areas, professional chemical clean-ups are required in order to clean

out and dry the area properly so as to avoid allergic reactions to residual

parts of dead mold and recurring mold contamination if there is still a source

of

moisture.

" The killing of Black Mold by our Big Six Plus Germicidal is a very

significant finding since it has been confirmed that after Hurricanes Katrina

and Rita,

the Gulf Coast has been grossly affected by this type of toxigenic mold. Our

environmentally-friendly product would be effective in alleviating the current

mold problem in the Gulf Coast, " stated Mr. Bowker.

About eFoodSafety.com, Inc.

eFoodSafety.com, Inc. is dedicated to improving food and health conditions

around the world through its innovative technologies. The company's Knock-Out

Technologies, Ltd. subsidiary has developed an environmentally safe sporicidal

product formulated entirely of food-grade components that eradicates anthrax

and a germicidal product that kills six major bacteria: E-coli, Listeria,

Pseudomonas, Salmonella, Staphylococcus, and Streptococcus, and avian influenza.

The

sporicidal product has completed its final efficacy laboratory study

requisite for EPA registration; in the study, it eradicated both Clostridium

Sporogenes and Bacillus Subtilis with 100% efficacy on both hard and porous

surfaces.

The company's MedElite, Inc. subsidiary distributes clinically proven products

to physicians who then prescribe the products for their patients. It is the

exclusive U.S. and Worldwide distributor of the Talsyn-CI/bid Scar Cream

that has been clinically proven to facilitate and improve the appearance,

redness

and strength of scars (www.talsyn.com). The company has also recently become

a distributor for Cinnergen, a non-prescription liquid whole food

nutritional supplement that promotes healthy glucose metabolism

(www.cinnergen.com).

FAIR USE NOTICE:

[Guest guest]

It's a loose loose proposition because leaving the spores alone, they duplicate.

The mycotoxins do not but they are poisonous. We can't win!!! Loni

Bob <blue74730@...> wrote:

I did not see where anyone commented on this product. Is it the same problem

with killing the mold and spores but the mycotoxin is still harmful?

Bob

cavegrl777@... wrote:

Symbol Lookup

Press Release Source: eFoodSafety.com, Inc.

eFoodSafety.com, Inc. Subsidiary, Knock-Out Technologies, Ltd.'s Big Six Plus

Germicidal Kills Black Mold

Thursday November 3, 9:30 am ET

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 3, 2005-- Bowker, President of

Knock-Out Technologies, Ltd., a wholly-owned subsidiary of eFoodSafety.com,

Inc. (OTCBB: EFSF - News) announced today that laboratory testing confirmed

that the Big Six Germicidal product kills with 100% efficacy " Black Mold, " whose

clinical name is Stachybotrys chartarum. He pointed out the environmentally

safe product's potential usefulness in killing Black Mold in

hurricane-devastated areas of the Gulf Coast.

ADVERTISEMENT

Stachybotrys chartarum, also known as Stachybotrys atra, is a greenish-black

mold that can grow on material with a high cellulose and low nitrogen content,

such as fiberboard, gypsum board, paper, dust, and lint. Growth occurs when

there is moisture from water damage, excessive humidity, water leaks,

condensation, water infiltration, or flooding. Constant moisture is required for

its

growth. (Excerpt from Air Pollution and Respiratory Health Branch, National

Center for Environmental Health, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

(CDC),

www.cdc.gov.)

Aerobiology Laboratory Associates, Inc. (http://www.aerobiology.net/),

microbiology specialists that assist Indoor Air Quality professionals in all

aspects

of work-related environmental microbiology, completed the testing at their

St. s, Missouri laboratory facility and confirmed results that the Big Six

Plus Germicidal had a 100% kill rate on Stachybotrys chartarum.

The Big Six Plus Germicidal product, which is non-corrosive, non-carcinogenic

and non-toxic, is a " safe " solution to killing Black Mold. It can be used as

an environmentally friendly alternative to the typical methods of eradication:

commercially available chemical products and bleach solutions. For larger

affected areas, professional chemical clean-ups are required in order to clean

out and dry the area properly so as to avoid allergic reactions to residual

parts of dead mold and recurring mold contamination if there is still a source

of

moisture.

" The killing of Black Mold by our Big Six Plus Germicidal is a very

significant finding since it has been confirmed that after Hurricanes Katrina

and Rita,

the Gulf Coast has been grossly affected by this type of toxigenic mold. Our

environmentally-friendly product would be effective in alleviating the current

mold problem in the Gulf Coast, " stated Mr. Bowker.

About eFoodSafety.com, Inc.

eFoodSafety.com, Inc. is dedicated to improving food and health conditions

around the world through its innovative technologies. The company's Knock-Out

Technologies, Ltd. subsidiary has developed an environmentally safe sporicidal

product formulated entirely of food-grade components that eradicates anthrax

and a germicidal product that kills six major bacteria: E-coli, Listeria,

Pseudomonas, Salmonella, Staphylococcus, and Streptococcus, and avian influenza.

The

sporicidal product has completed its final efficacy laboratory study

requisite for EPA registration; in the study, it eradicated both Clostridium

Sporogenes and Bacillus Subtilis with 100% efficacy on both hard and porous

surfaces.

The company's MedElite, Inc. subsidiary distributes clinically proven products

to physicians who then prescribe the products for their patients. It is the

exclusive U.S. and Worldwide distributor of the Talsyn-CI/bid Scar Cream

that has been clinically proven to facilitate and improve the appearance,

redness

and strength of scars (www.talsyn.com). The company has also recently become

a distributor for Cinnergen, a non-prescription liquid whole food

nutritional supplement that promotes healthy glucose metabolism

(www.cinnergen.com).

FAIR USE NOTICE:

[Guest guest]

Bob,

I can't speak for others, but I didn't reply because this issue, like

ozone, is pretty much a dead horse by now. Dead horses can't hurt you

but dead mold can and will. Even if the mold is dead it still has to

be removed, so remove it. Dr Rice is correct, but many of us got sick

before the natural process of degradation was over. Several here can

attest to a year or more before they can tolerate mold contaminated

belongings. Or, the degradation never happened because the moisture

source was still present and the growth continued.

There are over 20,000 kinds of black mold. Stachybotrys is actually

greenish-black and sometimes white and sometimes does not produce

mycotoxins. The methods to remove mold do not change with the type of

mold. That is no different than using one vacuum cleaner to remove

particles whether they are dirt, cat dander, dog dander or snake

scales. You don't need a different machine for each. Same with

washing your hands to remove " germs. " You don't need to kill them

first either.

Killing mold first doesn't make it easier to remove but it does

increase the cost and effort. The one exception is for infections. An

infection is when bacteria, virus or mold gets inside the body and

begins growing. If the organism is dead, it can't grow and cause an

infection.

However, infections are rare - not impossible as some in this group

will attest - but they are by far not the first concern. Money for

many is a critical shortage and most all cases can be remedied

without the expense of infection control, especially if you are not

yet immune compromised. If you are, that is a different story. Even

so, the mold still has to be removed, the moisture stopped and if it

is gone there is nothing to kill. If it stays dry nothing more will

grow. Finally, most of the methods for killing mold are themselves a

chemical exposure. You can also read the archives for previous

details by many of us on this issue.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

> I did not see where anyone commented on this product. Is it the same

> problem with killing the mold and spores but the mycotoxin is still

> harmful?

>

> Bob

>

> cavegrl777@... wrote:

> Symbol Lookup

> Press Release Source: eFoodSafety.com, Inc.

> eFoodSafety.com, Inc. Subsidiary, Knock-Out Technologies, Ltd.'s Big

> Six Plus Germicidal Kills Black Mold Thursday November 3, 9:30 am ET

> SCOTTSDALE, Ariz.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 3, 2005-- Bowker,

> President of Knock-Out Technologies, Ltd., a wholly-owned subsidiary

> of eFoodSafety.com, Inc. (OTCBB: EFSF - News) announced today that

> laboratory testing confirmed that the Big Six Germicidal product kills

> with 100% efficacy " Black Mold, " whose clinical name is Stachybotrys

> chartarum. He pointed out the environmentally safe product's potential

> usefulness in killing Black Mold in hurricane-devastated areas of the

> Gulf Coast. ADVERTISEMENT Stachybotrys chartarum, also known as

> Stachybotrys atra, is a greenish-black mold that can grow on material

> with a high cellulose and low nitrogen content, such as fiberboard,

> gypsum board, paper, dust, and lint. Growth occurs when there is

> moisture from water damage, excessive humidity, water leaks,

> condensation, water infiltration, or flooding. Constant moisture is

> required for its growth. (Excerpt from Air Pollution and Respiratory

> Health Branch, National Center for Environmental Health, Centers for

> Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), www.cdc.gov.) Aerobiology

> Laboratory Associates, Inc. (http://www.aerobiology.net/),

> microbiology specialists that assist Indoor Air Quality professionals

> in all aspects of work-related environmental microbiology, completed

> the testing at their St. s, Missouri laboratory facility and

> confirmed results that the Big Six Plus Germicidal had a 100% kill

> rate on Stachybotrys chartarum. The Big Six Plus Germicidal product,

> which is non-corrosive, non-carcinogenic and non-toxic, is a " safe "

> solution to killing Black Mold. It can be used as an environmentally

> friendly alternative to the typical methods of eradication:

> commercially available chemical products and bleach solutions. For

> larger affected areas, professional chemical clean-ups are required in

> order to clean out and dry the area properly so as to avoid allergic

> reactions to residual parts of dead mold and recurring mold

> contamination if there is still a source of moisture. " The killing of

> Black Mold by our Big Six Plus Germicidal is a very significant

> finding since it has been confirmed that after Hurricanes Katrina and

> Rita, the Gulf Coast has been grossly affected by this type of

> toxigenic mold. Our environmentally-friendly product would be

> effective in alleviating the current mold problem in the Gulf Coast, "

> stated Mr. Bowker. About eFoodSafety.com, Inc. eFoodSafety.com, Inc.

> is dedicated to improving food and health conditions around the world

> through its innovative technologies. The company's Knock-Out

> Technologies, Ltd. subsidiary has developed an environmentally safe

> sporicidal product formulated entirely of food-grade components that

> eradicates anthrax and a germicidal product that kills six major

> bacteria: E-coli, Listeria, Pseudomonas, Salmonella, Staphylococcus,

> and Streptococcus, and avian influenza. The sporicidal product has

> completed its final efficacy laboratory study requisite for EPA

> registration; in the study, it eradicated both Clostridium Sporogenes

> and Bacillus Subtilis with 100% efficacy on both hard and porous

> surfaces. The company's MedElite, Inc. subsidiary distributes

> clinically proven products to physicians who then prescribe the

> products for their patients. It is the exclusive U.S. and Worldwide

> distributor of the Talsyn-CI/bid Scar Cream that has been

> clinically proven to facilitate and improve the appearance, redness

> and strength of scars (www.talsyn.com). The company has also recently

> become a distributor for Cinnergen, a non-prescription liquid

> whole food nutritional supplement that promotes healthy glucose

> metabolism (www.cinnergen.com).

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you!

From what i've read the dead mold dust has to be physically removed from the

building, or else the trichothecene-toxin-laden dust becomes a serious

health threat as it becomes increasingly pulverized.

It gets stirred up by the wind when it is dry and the cytotoxic (cell

killing) activity of the dust remains substantial, even at very low

concentrations. (its a non-linear effect, you need a big reduction in dust

to get a much smaller reduction in cytotoxicity.)

The amount of time it takes for stachbotrys dust to become 'nontoxic' i am

sure is much longer than one year. Trichothecene mycotoxins are stable, I am

pretty sure.

If kept dry, once created by molds, they could last for decades. Thats why

people are strongly encouraged to clean up leaks quickly!

The viability of spores declines with time, however. Like a seed being less

and less likely to germinate as it dries out. However, *some* spores found

inside the Egyptian Pyramids did germinate after thousands of years.

On 11/22/05, Carl E. Grimes <grimes@...> wrote:

>

> Bob,

>

> I can't speak for others, but I didn't reply because this issue, like

> ozone, is pretty much a dead horse by now. Dead horses can't hurt you

> but dead mold can and will. Even if the mold is dead it still has to

> be removed, so remove it. Dr Rice is correct, but many of us got sick

> before the natural process of degradation was over. Several here can

> attest to a year or more before they can tolerate mold contaminated

> belongings. Or, the degradation never happened because the moisture

> source was still present and the growth continued.

>

> There are over 20,000 kinds of black mold. Stachybotrys is actually

> greenish-black and sometimes white and sometimes does not produce

> mycotoxins. The methods to remove mold do not change with the type of

> mold. That is no different than using one vacuum cleaner to remove

> particles whether they are dirt, cat dander, dog dander or snake

> scales. You don't need a different machine for each. Same with

> washing your hands to remove " germs. " You don't need to kill them

> first either.

>

> Killing mold first doesn't make it easier to remove but it does

> increase the cost and effort. The one exception is for infections. An

> infection is when bacteria, virus or mold gets inside the body and

> begins growing. If the organism is dead, it can't grow and cause an

> infection.

>

> However, infections are rare - not impossible as some in this group

> will attest - but they are by far not the first concern. Money for

> many is a critical shortage and most all cases can be remedied

> without the expense of infection control, especially if you are not

> yet immune compromised. If you are, that is a different story. Even

> so, the mold still has to be removed, the moisture stopped and if it

> is gone there is nothing to kill. If it stays dry nothing more will

> grow. Finally, most of the methods for killing mold are themselves a

> chemical exposure. You can also read the archives for previous

> details by many of us on this issue.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

>

>