connection between lakes and mold growth?

[Guest guest]

I live by a very large lake which was made by damming the Red River. It is Lake

Texoma. I moved here when I was ten and most of our meat was from fish we caught

in the lake. I am feeling weak this morning and I was thinking of buying a

sleeping blanket and driving out to the lake and lay down in the bed of my

pickup. It made me remember something. Way before I joined this list I was

talking to a woman in Dallas who told me that she drove to this lake once and

she could smell the mold and mildew and hasn't been back since. Most people

around here over the age of 20 have sinus and allergy problems. since there are

many ranchers there are a lot of " stock ponds " which are created by using a

bull-dozer to make a depression in the ground and let rain water build up so

there cattle has water to drink plus they sometimes stand in the water to cool

off.

I am wondering if water which doesn't move that much, or at all, can be a

breeding place for mold? There wasn't many lakes around until after WWll. The

Corp of Engineers went around building all of the lakes and many ponds. I know

my father worked some on that after the war and it seemed it was more for a work

program for soldiers. I brought up eating fish because I know there are many

illness from ocean fish eating certain algae and humans in turn eating the fish.

why wouldn't there be algae in lake water which are being eaten by fish causing

similar illnesses? CFS has shown in published research to have a toxin in the

blood which is similar to ciguatoxin, a fish poisoning in warm water ocean

area's.

Bob

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[Guest guest]

I know there are many illness from ocean fish eating certain algae

and humans in turn eating the fish. why wouldn't there be algae in

lake water which are being eaten by fish causing similar illnesses?

CFS has shown in published research to have a toxin in the blood which

is similar to ciguatoxin, a fish poisoning in warm water ocean area's.

>

> Bob

Bob, you simply have to read Desperation Medicine.

It's all in there, and Mold Warriors just adds more to the concept of

biotoxin mediated illnesses.

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erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

Bob, you simply have to read Desperation Medicine.

I read Desperation Medicine several years ago and I even saw a documentary

about how the mysterious illness striking down people in the state and how Dr

Shoemaker, they used the real Dr Shoemaker in the Doc., discovered first the

cause of the illness and then tried an old medicine used for lowering

cholesterol. But I don't remember him talking about lake water, fish toxins and

mold from the lake? lakes have many coves which the water is stagnant and leaves

and driftwood will stay there for days. I thought maybe I had thought of a major

source of mold and living by a lake and stock ponds add to the chances of

getting biotoxins.

Bob

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There must be environmental changes that are adding to the problem

of algae. I've heard algae is on the rise in waters and have

experienced first hand on the large pond, small natural lake on the

land of a childhood friend. We used to go there every winter to ice

skate and sleide ride. A great place, hills around the lake that

were great for sleding and then the lake would freeze over pretty

solid. My friends family would have LOTS of people who would come

over and maybe a dozen people on the ice, skating, and people

running onto the ice from sledes that didn't stop at the bottom of

the hill and so would come sliding onto the icy lake.

I assumed now that my friend owned her parent's property, her kids

would be having the same fun but she said they didn't use the pond

because it didn't freeze over like it used to. She said there was

too much algae on it to freeze over, preventing cold air from

getting to water top. She said they had tried a few things to solve

it but weren't able to solve it. She said they had a suggestion to

put fountain in center of lake but were afraid to go to expense for

fear it would not work, so just didn't use the lake anymore. I also

heard on news show, algae was growing problem in lakes.

Your post just reminded me. Global warming? I don't remember what

the suggestions were for possible causes. Anyway, if it continues,

not good.

>

> I read Desperation Medicine several years ago and I even saw a

documentary about how the mysterious illness striking down people in

the state and how Dr Shoemaker, they used the real Dr Shoemaker in

the Doc., discovered first the cause of the illness and then tried

an old medicine used for lowering cholesterol. But I don't remember

him talking about lake water, fish toxins and mold from the lake?

lakes have many coves which the water is stagnant and leaves and

driftwood will stay there for days. I thought maybe I had thought of

a major source of mold and living by a lake and stock ponds add to

the chances of getting biotoxins.

>

> Bob

[Guest guest]

barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote: our post just reminded me. Global

warming? I don't remember what

the suggestions were for possible causes. Anyway, if it continues,

not good.

Exactly. I know that ocean fish toxins are increasing and the governments are

concerned and research those. There is even a new drug which successfully treats

REd Tide and even Ciguatoxin, which a university developed and they went into

partnership to have it made. It is FDA trials now. The National CFIDS Foundation

(NCF) funded research by Dr Hokama to see if the ciguatera epitope he found in

people with CFS would respond to the new drug. The new drug is Brevenal.

If lakes and ponds are beginning to become a source of not only mold but fish

toxins then this would greatly add to the problem.

I am going to order Mold Warriors but I loaned my copy of Dr Shoemaker's

Desperation Medicine out and I wished I could remember if he had something to

say about natural water becoming a breeding ground for biotoxins. Maybe

remembers.

Bob

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Actually, the World Health Organization recently published a huge

report about the many impacts of global climate change on human health

and mold was one of the things that they said would worsten, due to

changes in the weather. Not just from storms, either, the movement of

the warm zones northward and southward from the equator means that for

us in the US, some tropical diseases are headed our way.

Aflatoxins are a big part of this.. in food.. And fulmosins..