Re: iv/vein problem (reply)(reply)

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Hello blue74730@...,

In reference to your comment:

è LymeAngl@... wrote: LymeAngel, I have a

è good friend who has been on a Rife group with you for

è years and when you first posted here, i was excited

è that maybe something working so I forward your post

è to him and he told me that you have been saying the

è same things on other lists for years but no one else

è has been able to duplicate your success.

******Are you speaking about the Photon Genie electromedicine machine? I

only know local Lymies and a couple from Canada, who have used the Genie with a

great deal of success for their Lyme problems.....they also did the same IV's I

have done and are now back to work. They could not work because of the Lyme

disease and their CO-infections. I can call them and see if they will call

you or allow you to call them at their home to verify their success not only

with Lyme but several other health problems.

*****Just for the record, I have only been on the Lyme-Rife lists since the

middle of 2003 and have only been posting about the PhotonGenie machine since

that time, so I have no idea what he is saying when he says I have been saying

this for " years " . There are some people on the Lyme-Rife lists who get upset

when I post about my success with the Photon Genie machine. I was an avid

Rife user for many years, but when all three of my alternative doctors

introduced

me and encouraged me to use the Photon Genie I switched and I will never go

back. This machine literally saved my life with the mold-pneumonia and

aspergillus exposure, which happened the latter part of September. Up until

that

point I was treating Lyme (borreila, ehrlichia, babesia and (5) strains of

mycoplasma), and several other problems......if you go back to the front page of

Lyme-Rife you can find dates of my first joining that lists. I also joined

Lyme at that time. So for your friend to say " years " he needs to get his

facts straight. There was also a man on that lists who makes other machines and

traded out a Genie for one of his machines. He then posted to this lists that

he took the machine apart and checked it out and it could not do what I said

it did for me. WELL, a very interesting point IS, IF you take the machine

apart or try and open it, then the NASA chip that hold the program will

automatically erase and you will NOT get any information on how it works. You

can call

the Ed Skilling institute and speak to them and they will verify this. That

is one of the things that make this machine so expensive. There have been

several PhotonGenie models made but the latest model, the one I use is the most

powerful. It regenerates injured/sick cells and bone.

I have known

è this person for a long time and he has never led me

è wrong before. would you say that this is a fair

è assessment of your posts on other lists in the past?

********NO I do NOT say this is a fair assessment of my posts on other lists

in the past. Go join their lists and read their archives of my postings and

you will see just how inaccurate your friend is.

I want to know that I can trust someone's postings.

è Bob

*******I'm NOT selling anything here so I'm not sure what this statement

means. I'm sharing what has worked for me. I'm a retired nurse on SS

disability

and have for years worked with sick people online, empowering them to make

better healthcare choices. What protocols they choose, what they buy is THEIR

business. I'm an Aspartame survivor, which is when all my devastating health

problems began in 1981. I even lost two babies because of the Aspartame

poisoning.

**********I wasn't diagnosed with the Cancers until 2001/02 and then Lyme

disease in 2003. The mold exposure and pneumonia came in 2005.

*****I'm blessed and thrilled to say I am Cancer free and the Lyme disease

(borellia, babesia, ehrlichia) is in a good remission. Still working on the (5)

strains of Mycoplasmas. You are NEVER 100% free of Lyme disease. The key is

to stop the mutation with a remission.

*******I will say this, the Photon Genie helped me to get where I am today,

even though I did the Theramag machine, which is an anticancer machine from the

Alternative Cancer Institute for a clinical study through one of my

alternative doctors.

I used BOTH machine during the lung and breast cancers. However, I

personally SWEAR by the Photon Genie and if you or any Rife user doesn't believe

in the

machine, I could give a rats patooty. I know what worked for me and I feel b

lessed to have been given the chance for the past, present and future

experience using the machine.

*****Now if you are addressing my IV protocols and other adjuncts, then your

friend is speaking of something he knows nothing about. I know what worked

for me and what got me where I am today. There is no doubt in my mind that the

IV protocols we are using for aspergillus exposure are working. Let me tell

you, I was gray and my lips blue at my worst with the pneumonia. It was the

Genie that allowed me to breath at night while sleeping. The Lidocaine

injections into my lymphatic muscles were a

Godsend......it opened up my lungs (created a draining process) and allowed

me to function. BTW, Dr Harry Philibert, MD, of New Orleans is the creator of

this wonderful protocol and he will be here in Phoenix next week lecturing and

I get to be the guinea pig for demonstration. I spoke with him on the

telephone and got permission to mention is name on this lists and the Lyme

lists.

People with chronic illness, mold, asthma, emphysema, COPD, Lyme disease and

neuro problems can benefit from his different protocols. Absolutely amazing

doctor. I spoke to him yesterday as I am taking reservations for his seminar

(which is closed as we are full), but the evening lecture, which is free, is

open

to both doctors, professionals and patients.

******For those who live in New Orleans or close too I would be beating down

his door for treatment. Poor thing had his office and home completely

destroyed by Katrina and this 74 yr old soul, packed up his trunk and was making

house calls. Fema finally put him up a trailer and tied it down so he has a

place

to see patients. For anyone who would like to speak to him or make appt.,

write to me privately and I will give you his cell number as FEMA doesn't have

the trailer phones hooked up yet, but should have them hooked up sometime next

week. I will get that number when I see him next week. He said he is seeing

all kinds of patients and says " YES, there is devastating MOLD exposure and

illness in New Orleans. "

******Sorry Bob that I got off track but this was a good opportunity to speak

about

Dr Philibert......I don't know what to tell you about gaining trust.....I

speak what has worked for me. People who know the the real me, trust me and

utilize my expertise..... I will say this, there is NO ONE on the Lyme-Rife,

Lyme-AID, Lymestrategies, MCS, IMMUNE, and a few others who have used my

protocols and gotten the results I have. Not many doctors who do the assortment

of

IV's and protocols that I use. So to say they could not duplicate my success is

wayyyyyyy off base.....hell no one would commit to the protocols I have used

with success. My doctor wants to name the HVB " hotbloods " with Lazer

piggybacked with Hydrogen Peroxide with DMSO with Airnergy (oxygen breathing

treatments), as it not only worked for me and several other patients in his

office for

Lyme disease and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Interesting how well it work for

CFS, as one patient has NO PAIN or fatigue after a series of treatments and she

had had CFS for 30 years. Many alternative doctors called my doctor to talk

to him about the protocol.

******Let me make it clean the Photon Genie was only an adjunct to a very

extensive protocol and I could never say the Genie was a cure for Lyme. I will

say this, I am making a remarkable recovery from the MOLD exposure with its use

and will continue to use my machine. Will it be a complete success, who

knows, but I am willing to be a guinea pig to find out. Will I ever go back to

Rife? NOT as long as I have a Genie I will not. Many Rife users and those who

make Rife machines don't like when I talk about my success with the Genie,

but they will just have to get over it, as I know personally what has worked for

me.

******Now can we move on, as I thought this was a support group for sharing

what works best for each of us?? I AM NOT SELLING ANYTHING......

PS....it would be interesting to know who your friend is?? Of course those

that talk out their butts never want their name released. When I make

statements about protocols, machines or others, you can bet your sweet patooty

that

you can use my name. :-)) Would I confront this loose lip, you bet your sweet

patooty I would. How dare he lie and not speak the truth. you can go back

and report to him, and let us see if he has the guts to speak to me????? I am a

very outspoken, assertive and aggressive woman and will stand up to those who

spread rumors and not speak the truth. BTW , there are people on that

private doctors lists we belong to from Arizona and know me personally. In fact

one of the doctors is a " founding sponsor " of our website L.E.A.P. Arizona,

Inc. (Lyme, Education, Awareness Program) which holds a non-profit status and

is incorporated in the State of Arizona. One of the doctors is monitoring my

Lyme treatment and recovery closely as he knows I will not use antibiotics and

he uses a combination of antibiotics and alternatives. We are all anxious to

see if my remission holds. :-))

Keep a smile on your face, love in your heart and walk with the angels,

holding hands in the " chain of love " .....

Angel Huggzz

or Angel

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LymeAngel,

After reading your post in reply to Bob, along with reviewing your

websites I have a couple of questions and comments. Number one for

an educated person as yourself, dealing with alot of health related

issues, I'm a bit surprised that you use neon colors on your web

pages along with your message board. I can not continue to review

this very long, because it causes great strain on the eyes and

starts to become very irritating. My wife could not review it at

all. Reds and other bright neon colors, for those that have

neurological conditions it can trigger there illness. Seizures,

strokes, panic attacks,etc. It seems to short circuit brainwaves.

You might want to consider changing these colors. Just a suggestion.

I have been doing a little research on this Genie and I don't really

quite really understand how it operates and how they can make claims

for what it does. Doing my research all over the web for the last 10

years and speaking to many people all over the country, victims of

exposures and many different illness, not to mention many

professionals, this is the first time I have ever heard about this

machine that seems to run about $3,000. I will paste a little bit of

information below:

FREQUENCIES AND PULSE REPETITION RATES

Photon-Genie dramatically innovates and advances the concepts of

Tesla, Rife, Abrams, and Lakhovsky by perfecting an advanced lymph

technology with full-spectrum frequencies and infinite harmonics.

This life-nourishing photobiotic energy is effectively delivered by

both an ionized Noble Gas energy-field and deeply penetrating ultra-

high frequency energy waves. The result is an effective delivery of

an extremely wide band of light-and-sound harmonic frequencies to:

Re-establish the ideal frequency and harmonic energy state of each

individual cell in the body.

Devitalize pathogens in the system.

Break up blockages and barrier tissues through re-polarization.

Detoxify the body by moving and balancing the lymphatic,

circulatory, and fluid systems of the body.

THE MECHANICS OF THE PHOTON GENIE

This Instrument utilizes Inert or Noble gases contained in special

hand blown glass tubes evacuated of air and filled with combinations

of Argon and Neon gases and other elements.

The Instrument is contained in a plastic enclosure, approximately

10 " wide by 7.5 " deep by 3.25 " high.

The power is 115 volts, 50 hertz, a 6 foot 2 wire power cord

provides the input power. A power transformer and rectifier converts

the input power to 12 volts.

Two glass Photon tubes and two RF Energy Probes (Transmitting Flat

Packs) are furnished with each unit. The glass tubes' cords are

attached to banana plugs and the connectors are located on the left

side of the front panel of the Instrument. The RF Energy Probes are

attached to a 6 foot cord with a 5 pin din plug. The connectors are

located at the right side of the front panel.

As I'm sure you are very much aware, this group tends to deal with

many individuals that have been exposed to

mycotoxins/chemicals/fungi that has affected their health greatly,

not to mention their everyday lives. Because of the toxic effects of

this form of exposure finding a cure/treatment tends to be very

difficult if not costly. Many are suffering serious consequences

because of ignorance that surrounds this issue and the lack of

educated physicians, are willing to try just about any form/type of

treatment. So we move cautiously before we spend finances that we

really don't have.

This Genie machine, I'm having a very difficult time grasping and

it sounds more along the line of hocus pocus. I don't mean to sound

cynical, but a guess being a cynic is part of my job, because I am

in the same boat as many of the members here. I am very open minded

and willing to listen, about any new product or procedure. We have

had people on here claiming fantastic results about the parasite

zapper, (which someone sent to me to try) and other technology and

the when push came to shove the only person it worked for was the

one promoting it. You claim you are not selling anything, but you

definately are promoting this Genie here and on your website. I also

found it very interesting that someone else from Arizona was selling

the Genie on ebay. Perhaps, maybe?

" I am a very outspoken, assertive and aggressive woman and will

stand up to those who spread rumors and not speak the truth. "

I admire you for this, but my wife is too, and many on this board,

we've been used and abused more than once. If this machine worked

for you,great. Are you sure it was the machine that got you better

and not the IV's or other medications you were doing?

I am not attacking you or this product, I'm just being cautious and

asking questions. Many on this board either don't know, or are

hesitant to ask questions concerning these products or any other.

Many leave this up to me to get the ball rolling. So I am not being

mean, I just feel that products/protocols/treatments that are

mentioned here encourging others to use or follow should always be

researched throughly and to proceed with due care, as lives are, and

will be affected and I do not want to inadvertedly be responsible

for anyone having an adverse reaction, or getting ripped off.

Just like other catastrophic occurrences it tends to bring out the

charlatans, whether it is environmental, medical or remediation.

KC

LymeAngel, I have a

> è good friend who has been on a Rife group with you for

> è years and when you first posted here, i was excited

> è that maybe something working so I forward your post

> è to him and he told me that you have been saying the

> è same things on other lists for years but no one else

> è has been able to duplicate your success.

>

> ******Are you speaking about the Photon Genie electromedicine

machine? I

> only know local Lymies and a couple from Canada, who have used the

Genie with a

> great deal of success for their Lyme problems.....they also did

the same IV's I

> have done and are now back to work. They could not work because

of the Lyme

> disease and their CO-infections. I can call them and see if they

will call

> you or allow you to call them at their home to verify their

success not only

> with Lyme but several other health problems.

>

> *****Just for the record, I have only been on the Lyme-Rife lists

since the

> middle of 2003 and have only been posting about the PhotonGenie

machine since

> that time, so I have no idea what he is saying when he says I have

been saying

> this for " years " . There are some people on the Lyme-Rife lists

who get upset

> when I post about my success with the Photon Genie machine. I was

an avid

> Rife user for many years, but when all three of my alternative

doctors introduced

> me and encouraged me to use the Photon Genie I switched and I will

never go

> back. This machine literally saved my life with the mold-

pneumonia and

> aspergillus exposure, which happened the latter part of

September. Up until that

> point I was treating Lyme (borreila, ehrlichia, babesia and (5)

strains of

> mycoplasma), and several other problems......if you go back to the

front page of

> Lyme-Rife you can find dates of my first joining that lists. I

also joined

> Lyme at that time. So for your friend to say " years " he

needs to get his

> facts straight. There was also a man on that lists who makes

other machines and

> traded out a Genie for one of his machines. He then posted to

this lists that

> he took the machine apart and checked it out and it could not do

what I said

> it did for me. WELL, a very interesting point IS, IF you take the

machine

> apart or try and open it, then the NASA chip that hold the program

will

> automatically erase and you will NOT get any information on how it

works. You can call

> the Ed Skilling institute and speak to them and they will verify

this. That

> is one of the things that make this machine so expensive. There

have been

> several PhotonGenie models made but the latest model, the one I

use is the most

> powerful. It regenerates injured/sick cells and bone.

>

> I have known

> è this person for a long time and he has never led me

> è wrong before. would you say that this is a fair

> è assessment of your posts on other lists in the past?

>

> ********NO I do NOT say this is a fair assessment of my posts on

other lists

> in the past. Go join their lists and read their archives of my

postings and

> you will see just how inaccurate your friend is.

>

> I want to know that I can trust someone's postings.

> è Bob

>

> *******I'm NOT selling anything here so I'm not sure what this

statement

> means. I'm sharing what has worked for me. I'm a retired nurse

on SS disability

> and have for years worked with sick people online, empowering them

to make

> better healthcare choices. What protocols they choose, what they

buy is THEIR

> business. I'm an Aspartame survivor, which is when all my

devastating health

> problems began in 1981. I even lost two babies because of the

Aspartame

> poisoning.

>

> **********I wasn't diagnosed with the Cancers until 2001/02 and

then Lyme

> disease in 2003. The mold exposure and pneumonia came in 2005.

>

> *****I'm blessed and thrilled to say I am Cancer free and the Lyme

disease

> (borellia, babesia, ehrlichia) is in a good remission. Still

working on the (5)

> strains of Mycoplasmas. You are NEVER 100% free of Lyme disease.

The key is

> to stop the mutation with a remission.

>

> *******I will say this, the Photon Genie helped me to get where I

am today,

> even though I did the Theramag machine, which is an anticancer

machine from the

> Alternative Cancer Institute for a clinical study through one of

my

> alternative doctors.

> I used BOTH machine during the lung and breast cancers. However,

I

> personally SWEAR by the Photon Genie and if you or any Rife user

doesn't believe in the

> machine, I could give a rats patooty. I know what worked for me

and I feel b

> lessed to have been given the chance for the past, present and

future

> experience using the machine.

>

> *****Now if you are addressing my IV protocols and other adjuncts,

then your

> friend is speaking of something he knows nothing about. I know

what worked

> for me and what got me where I am today. There is no doubt in my

mind that the

> IV protocols we are using for aspergillus exposure are working.

Let me tell

> you, I was gray and my lips blue at my worst with the pneumonia.

It was the

> Genie that allowed me to breath at night while sleeping. The

Lidocaine

> injections into my lymphatic muscles were a

> Godsend......it opened up my lungs (created a draining process)

and allowed

> me to function. BTW, Dr Harry Philibert, MD, of New Orleans is

the creator of

> this wonderful protocol and he will be here in Phoenix next week

lecturing and

> I get to be the guinea pig for demonstration. I spoke with him on

the

> telephone and got permission to mention is name on this lists and

the Lyme lists.

> People with chronic illness, mold, asthma, emphysema, COPD, Lyme

disease and

> neuro problems can benefit from his different protocols.

Absolutely amazing

> doctor. I spoke to him yesterday as I am taking reservations for

his seminar

> (which is closed as we are full), but the evening lecture, which

is free, is open

> to both doctors, professionals and patients.

>

> ******For those who live in New Orleans or close too I would be

beating down

> his door for treatment. Poor thing had his office and home

completely

> destroyed by Katrina and this 74 yr old soul, packed up his trunk

and was making

> house calls. Fema finally put him up a trailer and tied it down

so he has a place

> to see patients. For anyone who would like to speak to him or

make appt.,

> write to me privately and I will give you his cell number as FEMA

doesn't have

> the trailer phones hooked up yet, but should have them hooked up

sometime next

> week. I will get that number when I see him next week. He said

he is seeing

> all kinds of patients and says " YES, there is devastating MOLD

exposure and

> illness in New Orleans. "

>

> ******Sorry Bob that I got off track but this was a good

opportunity to speak

> about

> Dr Philibert......I don't know what to tell you about gaining

trust.....I

> speak what has worked for me. People who know the the real me,

trust me and

> utilize my expertise..... I will say this, there is NO ONE on the

Lyme-Rife,

> Lyme-AID, Lymestrategies, MCS, IMMUNE, and a few others who have

used my

> protocols and gotten the results I have. Not many doctors who do

the assortment of

> IV's and protocols that I use. So to say they could not duplicate

my success is

> wayyyyyyy off base.....hell no one would commit to the protocols I

have used

> with success. My doctor wants to name the HVB " hotbloods " with

Lazer

> piggybacked with Hydrogen Peroxide with DMSO with Airnergy (oxygen

breathing

> treatments), as it not only worked for me and several other

patients in his office for

> Lyme disease and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Interesting how well

it work for

> CFS, as one patient has NO PAIN or fatigue after a series of

treatments and she

> had had CFS for 30 years. Many alternative doctors called my

doctor to talk

> to him about the protocol.

>

> ******Let me make it clean the Photon Genie was only an adjunct to

a very

> extensive protocol and I could never say the Genie was a cure for

Lyme. I will

> say this, I am making a remarkable recovery from the MOLD exposure

with its use

> and will continue to use my machine. Will it be a complete

success, who

> knows, but I am willing to be a guinea pig to find out. Will I

ever go back to

> Rife? NOT as long as I have a Genie I will not. Many Rife users

and those who

> make Rife machines don't like when I talk about my success with

the Genie,

> but they will just have to get over it, as I know personally what

has worked for

> me.

>

> ******Now can we move on, as I thought this was a support group

for sharing

> what works best for each of us?? I AM NOT SELLING ANYTHING......

>

> PS....it would be interesting to know who your friend is?? Of

course those

> that talk out their butts never want their name released. When I

make

> statements about protocols, machines or others, you can bet your

sweet patooty that

> you can use my name. :-)) Would I confront this loose lip, you

bet your sweet

> patooty I would. How dare he lie and not speak the truth. you

can go back

> and report to him, and let us see if he has the guts to speak to

me????? I am a

> very outspoken, assertive and aggressive woman and will stand up

to those who

> spread rumors and not speak the truth. BTW , there are people

on that

> private doctors lists we belong to from Arizona and know me

personally. In fact

> one of the doctors is a " founding sponsor " of our website L.E.A.P.

Arizona,

> Inc. (Lyme, Education, Awareness Program) which holds a non-profit

status and

> is incorporated in the State of Arizona. One of the doctors is

monitoring my

> Lyme treatment and recovery closely as he knows I will not use

antibiotics and

> he uses a combination of antibiotics and alternatives. We are all

anxious to

> see if my remission holds. :-))

>

> Keep a smile on your face, love in your heart and walk with the

angels,

> holding hands in the " chain of love " .....

>

> Angel Huggzz

> or Angel

>

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going.

> http://leaparizona.com/

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> " I am a very outspoken, assertive and aggressive woman and will

> stand up to those who spread rumors and not speak the truth. "

>

> I admire you for this, but my wife is too, and many on this board,

> we've been used and abused more than once.

Aren't you too sweet, talking about us like that? We were just discussing what

other names

some people use for us, and I don't think they are nearly as nice as those. I

thank you

kindly.