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I need some advice.

We did a school physical yesterday and need to bill the insurance. The

proce3dure code is easy but how have you worked out the diagnosis

coding? This 14 year old had no problems and no subluxations either.

Colwell

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Welcome home, Ted .... and thank you for all the good skills you shared/provided our athletes ..... You did a GREAT job!

Sunny ;'-))

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drjohansen@...; johncc48@...CC: From: tforcum@...Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:12:28 -0700Subject: RE: School physicals

The cardiac liability is the same for everyone unless you do an echo cardiograph. Reasearch shows the physical is an ineffective screen for sudden cardiac death.

The OSAA changes are to team physicians, not physicals.

Ted Forcum, DC, DACBSP

ACA Sports Council, 2nd Vice President

Back In Motion Sports Injuries Clinic, LLC

11385 SW Scholls Ferry Road

Beaverton, Oregon 97008

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Good luck on billing, when I was doing them it was cash only. Recent changes in OSAA rules and cardiac liability issues led me to stop doing them, except for a student that I have previously treated, just not worth the risk. R Johansen D.C.,DABCOChiropractic Life Center12762 SE Stark StreetPortland Oregon 97233Voice 5032557746,Fax 5032550818-- johncc48 <johncc48charter (DOT) net> wrote:

I need some advice.We did a school physical yesterday and need to bill the insurance. The proce3dure code is easy but how have you worked out the diagnosis coding? This 14 year old had no problems and no subluxations either. Colwell

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Sunny,

Thank you. It is good to be back. The

experience was excellent. I was quite busy especially with all the hoopla about

Kinesio tape. I did most of the US

team taping.

Ted

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'08 US Olympic Team Chiropractor

ACA Sports Council, President

Back

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Injuries Clinic, LLC

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Welcome home, Ted .... and thank

you for all the good skills you shared/provided our athletes ..... You did a

GREAT job!

Sunny ;'-))

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Eugene, Oregon, 97401

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johncc48@...

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From: tforcum@...

Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:12:28 -0700

Subject: RE: School physicals

The cardiac liability is the same for

everyone unless you do an echo cardiograph. Reasearch shows the physical is an

ineffective screen for sudden cardiac death.

The OSAA changes are to team physicians, not

physicals.

Ted Forcum, DC, DACBSP

ACA Sports Council, 2nd Vice President

Back

In Motion Sports Injuries

Clinic, LLC

11385 SW Scholls Ferry Road

Beaverton, Oregon 97008

503.524.9040

www.bimsportsinjuries.com

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named above. If the recipient of this message is not the intended

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of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this

communication in error, please notify Back In Motion Sports Injuries Clinic,

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9:11 AM

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Cc:

Subject: Re:

School physicals

Good luck on billing, when I was doing them it was cash only. Recent

changes in OSAA rules and cardiac liability issues led me to stop doing them,

except for a student that I have previously treated, just not worth the

risk.

R Johansen D.C.,DABCO

Chiropractic Life Center

12762 SE Stark Street

Portland Oregon 97233

Voice 5032557746,Fax 5032550818

-- johncc48 <johncc48charter (DOT) net> wrote:

I need some advice.

We did a school physical yesterday and need to bill the insurance. The

proce3dure code is easy but how have you worked out the diagnosis

coding? This 14 year old had no problems and no subluxations either.

Colwell

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Lub dup, lub dup.

A pet monkey.

Etc.

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Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

From: " Dr. Glenn Sykes " <drsykes@...>

Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 14:28:22 -0700

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Subject: RE: School physicals

At the risk of sounding naïve, way back when I took the Oregon board exam (1996) I seem to remember a whole section entitled cardio-respiratory diagnosis. And unless my memory fails me wasn’t there a class on cardio- respiratory diagnosis at WSCC. As a matter of fact I vividly remember listening to that lousy 50 year old tape recorder with heart sounds trying to differentiate a Mitral valve regurgitation vs. pulmonary valve insufficiency.

Now I’m not a lawyer but if ORS 336.479 says “has clinical training and experience”, but does not say how much or what kind of training! So I say WSSC counts as training and I have listened to patient’s hearts, ergo I have experience, therefore I figure I can do physicals.

Humbly submitted;

Glenn Sykes, DC

Gresham

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Subject: School physicals

An e-mail sent out to 250 families here in Lake Oswego regarding school physicals offering physicals for students on a at a P.T. clinic $25.00.

It is a little bit discouraging but I’m used to it to notice that any doctor or even a PA or CNP is authorized to perform the exam but chiropractors need to have had special training.

ORS 336.479, Section 1 (3) " A school district shall require students who continue to participate in extracurricular sports in grades 7 through 12 to have a physical examination once every two years. " Section 1(5) “Any physical examination required by this section shall be conducted by a (a) physician possessing an unrestricted license to practice medicine; (B) licensed naturopathic physician; © licensed physician assistant; (d) certified nurse practitioner; or a (e) licensed chiropractic physician who has clinical training and experience in detecting cardiopulmonary diseases and defects.”

Chiropractors, please enter by the back door and don’t use the water fountain.

E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

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Here Here Shane!!!!!!!!!!!!!I think there is a board violation in there somewhere.......Garreth MacEugeneFrom: Shane Espinoza <drespinoza@...>Subject: Re: School physicals" Abrahamson" <drscott@...>Cc: "" < >Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 1:27 PM

That PT clinic better have a doctor, chiropractor, PA, or CNP there to perform the physicals because a PT cannot. I would look into this so the parents know that a valid PPE is being performed.Shane E. Espinoza, D.C., C.C.S.P.®, CKTP

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Yes; attending chiropractic college and/or passing the oregon state licensing exam and getting your license to practice in ORegon is adequate to be doing these exams. If you feel qualified to do them and you want to; IMHO you are qualified and meet the criteria of that administrative language.

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School physicals

An e-mail sent out to 250 families here in Lake Oswego regarding school physicals offering physicals for students on a at a P.T. clinic $25.00.

It is a little bit discouraging but I’m used to it to notice that any doctor or even a PA or CNP is authorized to perform the exam but chiropractors need to have had special training.

ORS 336.479, Section 1 (3) "A school district shall require students who continue to participate in extracurricular sports in grades 7 through 12 to have a physical examination once every two years." Section 1(5) “Any physical examination required by this section shall be conducted by a (a) physician possessing an unrestricted license to practice medicine; (B) licensed naturopathic physician; © licensed physician assistant; (d) certified nurse practitioner; or a (e) licensed chiropractic physician who has clinical training and experience in detecting cardiopulmonary diseases and defects.â€

Chiropractors, please enter by the back door and don’t use the water fountain.

E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

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