Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 My friend does it for her Border Collie. She buzzes up the chicken bones with enough water to make like a tight gravy. She puts 1/4 cup on her dogs dry kibble. It's too rich to give her more than that but she loves it and dances around the kitchen in excitement.Sent from my iPadOn Jan 22, 2012, at 9:44 PM, Rena Glubay <jp17aday@...> wrote: I saw it mentioned on this list that you can put chicken carcasses in the VM to make gravy for your dog. Are there any specific tips or tricks one needs to know before trying this? Thanks! RenaIf God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.Happy moments, praise God. Difficult moments, seek God. Quiet moments, worship God. Painful moments, trust God. Every moment, thank God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 wow...are the chicken bones raw or cooked? all of the chicken bones? This would be great to my dog, I cook his dinner every day, shreaded vegetables and either turkey or beef, 50% cooked meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Cooked chicken bones (the carcass after eating a rotisserie chicken or making chicken soup). It is preferable to soften the chicken bones a bit by cooking them in water for a long time, but not 100% necessary.If you do a slow cook in water, add a tablespoon of ACV (Apple Cider Vinegar). This will help draw out the minerals.I blend the bones in batches about 3 batches to a carcass. Then, I store the gravy in large mason jars and pour over their dog food. It is a very bioavailable form of glucosamine, chondroitin, phosphorus, and calcium! And the dogs LOVE it!I bet that if you had a dehydrator, you could make really healthy bone biscuits for the dogs! Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:16 AM, tuzahu973@... wrote: wow...are the chicken bones raw or cooked? all of the chicken bones? This would be great to my dog, I cook his dinner every day, shreaded vegetables and either turkey or beef, 50% cooked meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I created a new folder "Pet Food Recipes" and put a link to "Dog Food Gravy" in there. Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 23, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Lea Ann Savage wrote: Cooked chicken bones (the carcass after eating a rotisserie chicken or making chicken soup). It is preferable to soften the chicken bones a bit by cooking them in water for a long time, but not 100% necessary.If you do a slow cook in water, add a tablespoon of ACV (Apple Cider Vinegar). This will help draw out the minerals.I blend the bones in batches about 3 batches to a carcass. Then, I store the gravy in large mason jars and pour over their dog food. It is a very bioavailable form of glucosamine, chondroitin, phosphorus, and calcium! And the dogs LOVE it!I bet that if you had a dehydrator, you could make really healthy bone biscuits for the dogs! Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:16 AM, tuzahu973@... wrote: wow...are the chicken bones raw or cooked? all of the chicken bones? This would be great to my dog, I cook his dinner every day, shreaded vegetables and either turkey or beef, 50% cooked meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 In the UK the VM demonstraters put a cooked chicken carcass and some water, put it on high for about five minutes and then they call it chicken stock. Not sure if that is true, but I suppose if it is safe for dogs, then it is safe for us Debbie > > > wow...are the chicken bones raw or cooked? all of the chicken bones? This would be great to my dog, I cook his dinner every day, shreaded vegetables and either turkey or beef, 50% cooked meat. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 No only safe, but an excellent source of extremely bio-available phosphorus, calcium, minerals, glucosamine, and chondroitin - but it is a little bit gritty - sandy-like. Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 23, 2012, at 8:44 AM, drunkendebbieninjamaster wrote: In the UK the VM demonstraters put a cooked chicken carcass and some water, put it on high for about five minutes and then they call it chicken stock. Not sure if that is true, but I suppose if it is safe for dogs, then it is safe for us Debbie > > > wow...are the chicken bones raw or cooked? all of the chicken bones? This would be great to my dog, I cook his dinner every day, shreaded vegetables and either turkey or beef, 50% cooked meat. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Hi. I make roasted chix at least once a week, then put all bones into a crock pot for at least overnight, but usually a lot longer. I strain off the broth for soups, stews and human use, but add separated fat back to bones and grind in VM--along with a little water if needed. I freeze in small amounts (1/2 cup) and add to dog's food. I know it seems crazy to think that the VM can puree all the bones, especially big leg bones, but it absolutely can--and in short order. Altho the 48 hours in the crock pot helps to soften them, I'm sure. Happy VMing. > > > wow...are the chicken bones raw or cooked? all of the chicken bones? This would be great to my dog, I cook his dinner every day, shreaded vegetables and either turkey or beef, 50% cooked meat. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 eeek! I make ground bones like this for my dog and she loves it, but the smell is so off-putting, I can't imagine eating it myself. like you say, probably safe, but yikes, lol. MAry Beth > > In the UK the VM demonstraters put a cooked chicken carcass and some water, put it on high for about five minutes and then they call it chicken stock. Not sure if that is true, but I suppose if it is safe for dogs, then it is safe for us > > Debbie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I bet it would be much smoother if the bones were cooked in the pressure cooker for 45 minutes or an hour. Lori From: Lea Ann Savage <lsavage@...> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 9:00 AMSubject: Re: Dog food gravy No only safe, but an excellent source of extremely bio-available phosphorus, calcium, minerals, glucosamine, and chondroitin - but it is a little bit gritty - sandy-like. Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 23, 2012, at 8:44 AM, drunkendebbieninjamaster wrote: In the UK the VM demonstraters put a cooked chicken carcass and some water, put it on high for about five minutes and then they call it chicken stock. Not sure if that is true, but I suppose if it is safe for dogs, then it is safe for us :)Debbie>> > wow...are the chicken bones raw or cooked? all of the chicken bones? This would be great to my dog, I cook his dinner every day, shreaded vegetables and either turkey or beef, 50% cooked meat.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Would straining get rid of the grit? I've meant to try it a couple of times but freaked out and thought it couldn't be good for us Debbie > > > > > > wow...are the chicken bones raw or cooked? all of the chicken bones? This would be great to my dog, I cook his dinner every day, shreaded vegetables and either turkey or beef, 50% cooked meat. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I bet it would! Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:16 PM, drunkendebbieninjamaster wrote: Would straining get rid of the grit? I've meant to try it a couple of times but freaked out and thought it couldn't be good for us Debbie > > > > > > wow...are the chicken bones raw or cooked? all of the chicken bones? This would be great to my dog, I cook his dinner every day, shreaded vegetables and either turkey or beef, 50% cooked meat. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 would this be safe for cats too do you think? I have 3 elderly cats that are getting more finicky about their food. On our vet's recommendation, they are on a predominately wet food diet but they love the gravy or the "jelly" in the can and lick that up first. It'd be a treat once in a while to give them a little extra "gravy" this way.On Jan 23, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Lea Ann Savage wrote: I bet it would! Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:16 PM, drunkendebbieninjamaster wrote: Would straining get rid of the grit? I've meant to try it a couple of times but freaked out and thought it couldn't be good for us Debbie > > > > > > wow...are the chicken bones raw or cooked? all of the chicken bones? This would be great to my dog, I cook his dinner every day, shreaded vegetables and either turkey or beef, 50% cooked meat. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 That's my question to. I have 3 cats that love gravy and won't eat anything that doesn't have it in there. I would love a way to make a healthy gravy they would like. -- Re: Dog food gravy would this be safe for cats too do you think? I have 3 elderly cats that are getting more finicky about their food. On our vet's recommendation, they are on a predominately wet food diet but they love the gravy or the "jelly" in the can and lick that up first. It'd be a treat once in a while to give them a little extra "gravy" this way. On Jan 23, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Lea Ann Savage wrote: I bet it would! Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:16 PM, drunkendebbieninjamaster wrote: Would straining get rid of the grit? I've meant to try it a couple of times but freaked out and thought it couldn't be good for us :(Debbie> >> > > > wow...are the chicken bones raw or cooked? all of the chicken bones? This would be great to my dog, I cook his dinner every day, shreaded vegetables and either turkey or beef, 50% cooked meat.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Yes - IF they will eat it :-) it is safe and would be good for them. Cats, btw, are pure carnivores (not omnivores like dogs). Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Kirstin Crossland wrote: would this be safe for cats too do you think? I have 3 elderly cats that are getting more finicky about their food. On our vet's recommendation, they are on a predominately wet food diet but they love the gravy or the "jelly" in the can and lick that up first. It'd be a treat once in a while to give them a little extra "gravy" this way.On Jan 23, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Lea Ann Savage wrote: I bet it would! Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:16 PM, drunkendebbieninjamaster wrote: Would straining get rid of the grit? I've meant to try it a couple of times but freaked out and thought it couldn't be good for us Debbie > > > > > > wow...are the chicken bones raw or cooked? all of the chicken bones? This would be great to my dog, I cook his dinner every day, shreaded vegetables and either turkey or beef, 50% cooked meat. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 makes me wish I'd kept that chicken carcass I used to make soup with yesterday..... now I just want to see the VM blend the chicken bones.... lolOn Jan 23, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Lea Ann Savage wrote: Yes - IF they will eat it :-) it is safe and would be good for them. Cats, btw, are pure carnivores (not omnivores like dogs). Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Kirstin Crossland wrote: would this be safe for cats too do you think? I have 3 elderly cats that are getting more finicky about their food. On our vet's recommendation, they are on a predominately wet food diet but they love the gravy or the "jelly" in the can and lick that up first. It'd be a treat once in a while to give them a little extra "gravy" this way.On Jan 23, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Lea Ann Savage wrote: I bet it would! Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:16 PM, drunkendebbieninjamaster wrote: Would straining get rid of the grit? I've meant to try it a couple of times but freaked out and thought it couldn't be good for us Debbie > > > > > > wow...are the chicken bones raw or cooked? all of the chicken bones? This would be great to my dog, I cook his dinner every day, shreaded vegetables and either turkey or beef, 50% cooked meat. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Thank you, am going to try it, when I get some bones.lol -- Re: Dog food gravy Yes - IF they will eat it :-) it is safe and would be good for them. Cats, btw, are pure carnivores (not omnivores like dogs). Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Kirstin Crossland wrote: would this be safe for cats too do you think? I have 3 elderly cats that are getting more finicky about their food. On our vet's recommendation, they are on a predominately wet food diet but they love the gravy or the "jelly" in the can and lick that up first. It'd be a treat once in a while to give them a little extra "gravy" this way. On Jan 23, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Lea Ann Savage wrote: I bet it would! Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:16 PM, drunkendebbieninjamaster wrote: Would straining get rid of the grit? I've meant to try it a couple of times but freaked out and thought it couldn't be good for us :(Debbie> >> > > > wow...are the chicken bones raw or cooked? all of the chicken bones? This would be great to my dog, I cook his dinner every day, shreaded vegetables and either turkey or beef, 50% cooked meat.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I don't *own* cats, but I do *feed* cats that live in the desert by my house...I can't say anything verifiable about the safety of the chicken bone puree for cats, but I can say that they seem to *love* to eat it. Beth > > would this be safe for cats too do you think? I have 3 elderly cats that are getting more finicky about their food. On our vet's recommendation, they are on a predominately wet food diet but they love the gravy or the " jelly " in the can and lick that up first. It'd be a treat once in a while to give them a little extra " gravy " this way. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 after reading this I checked out BONE BROTH on youtube and learned so much about it. never heard of this (I learn so much from this group!!!). It's so good for people, too!!! I guess the chicken carcus could cook an hour or two then blend. One woman on youtube got beef feet and used the same bones for 12 days, cooking each day and got good gelatin out of the same joints. Excellent for soup stock!! Wow, I'm going to do this. I'll get some bones on my next day off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I would be very grateful if you sent the link to the youtube video for bone broth that lasted 12 days!I got my first delivery of ORGANIC (grass-fed) beef bones today - paid $60 for 10 lbs. Rather disappointed because they were all femur bones when I asked for joints, oxtails, and "some" femur bones.But at least I'll be making my next batch of bones and not feeling any worry about bad stuff like antibiotics and hormones in there…Organic, grass-fed beef JOINTS, now that's what I'm going to be looking for next…Thanks again if you find and post that link! :-) Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 23, 2012, at 6:51 PM, tuzahu973@... wrote: after reading this I checked out BONE BROTH on youtube and learned so much about it. never heard of this (I learn so much from this group!!!). It's so good for people, too!!! I guess the chicken carcus could cook an hour or two then blend. One woman on youtube got beef feet and used the same bones for 12 days, cooking each day and got good gelatin out of the same joints. Excellent for soup stock!! Wow, I'm going to do this. I'll get some bones on my next day off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Lea Ann, Did they crack the femur so you can get them into a pot? > > I would be very grateful if you sent the link to the youtube video for bone broth that lasted 12 days! > > I got my first delivery of ORGANIC (grass-fed) beef bones today - paid $60 for 10 lbs. Rather disappointed because they were all femur bones when I asked for joints, oxtails, and " some " femur bones. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 here is the link to the youtube lady who is so excited to make bone broth for 12 days from the same beef joint. she says the beef feet are the best to get the gelatin from. II've never seen 'beef feet' at the store, not that I've looked for them. Now I will, this looks swell to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 THANK YOU! This went into my GAPS folder for my web bookmarks! Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 24, 2012, at 5:52 PM, tuzahu973@... wrote: here is the link to the youtube lady who is so excited to make bone broth for 12 days from the same beef joint. she says the beef feet are the best to get the gelatin from. II've never seen 'beef feet' at the store, not that I've looked for them. Now I will, this looks swell to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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