Re: Sugars (real and alternative)

[Guest guest]

That is of course Lea Ann's choice, but the sugar issue does come up often, and

usually does get a bit heated. I think that is because it seems that each is

trying to present their case, validate their own reasons, etc. I do think the

sugar topic SHOULD be discussed, because it is relevent to what ingredients go

in to smoothies and other recipes, but I agree that we all need to be more

tolerant of each others CHOICE to use whatever we think is best. As for

politics, PULEEESE lets not discuss them on here...enough of that on the TV!

Lea Ann is busy at a show this week, so I am trying to keep on top of group

topics for her, but she will make this decision when she can. In the meantime,

perhaps we can all be more careful in our wording so as not to offend the

choices of others.

>

> I know no one is asking for a vote, but if given one, I would vote for a

> group rule that prohibits discussions on politics and sugars.

>

> People know how to do the research themselves and there is no point in

> trying persuade from choices. I would rather promote an accepting group

> culture.

>

> My personal opinion is that real sugar will kill people much faster than

> any of the alternative versions. I truly believe that, and have reasons

> to believe that. I fear too much sugary fruit for the same reasons.

> I've been in the group for a short time and have watched two heated

> discussions. Members here are truly lovely and everyone means well, so

> why can't we make the topic off limits.

>

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

I don't see a problem. Everyone seemed respectful of each other.

Everyone is different.

Some eat gluten, meat, paleo, cooked, raw etc.

Someone may share a link or information that I'm not interested in

right now.

(Solar ovens) but I'll save it for future use.

If they already did the research and have the links it save me time.

Some may share info on Kefir which I'll probably never be interested

in.

That is what the delete button is for.

That's my $0.03

Tony

On 1/29/2012 9:36 PM, Apricot043 wrote:

I know no one is asking for a vote, but if given one, I

would vote for a

group rule that prohibits discussions on politics and

sugars.

People know how to do the research themselves and there is

no point in

trying persuade from choices. I would rather promote an

accepting group

culture.

My personal opinion is that real sugar will kill people

much faster than

any of the alternative versions. I truly believe that, and

have reasons

to believe that. I fear too much sugary fruit for the same

reasons.

I've been in the group for a short time and have watched

two heated

discussions. Members here are truly lovely and everyone

means well, so

why can't we make the topic off limits.

Amy

[Guest guest]

I agree with Tony. Information is a good thing. No one slammed anyone. •Robbin On Jan 29, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Tony Szpara <tszpara@...> wrote:

I don't see a problem. Everyone seemed respectful of each other.

Everyone is different.

Some eat gluten, meat, paleo, cooked, raw etc.

Someone may share a link or information that I'm not interested in

right now.

(Solar ovens) but I'll save it for future use.

If they already did the research and have the links it save me time.

Some may share info on Kefir which I'll probably never be interested

in.

That is what the delete button is for.

That's my $0.03

Tony

On 1/29/2012 9:36 PM, Apricot043 wrote:

I know no one is asking for a vote, but if given one, I

would vote for a

group rule that prohibits discussions on politics and

sugars.

People know how to do the research themselves and there is

no point in

trying persuade from choices. I would rather promote an

accepting group

culture.

My personal opinion is that real sugar will kill people

much faster than

any of the alternative versions. I truly believe that, and

have reasons

to believe that. I fear too much sugary fruit for the same

reasons.

I've been in the group for a short time and have watched

two heated

discussions. Members here are truly lovely and everyone

means well, so

why can't we make the topic off limits.

Amy

[Guest guest]

I'm with Tony. Thanks for your insight, Tony. BTW-- I see the price for opinions is also affected by inflation. LOLBarb T.  :-)On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Tony Szpara <tszpara@...> wrote:

 

I don't see a problem.  Everyone seemed respectful of each other.

Everyone is different.

Some eat gluten, meat, paleo, cooked, raw etc.

Someone may share a link or information that I'm not interested in

right now.

(Solar ovens) but I'll save it for future use.

If they already did the research and have the links it save me time.

Some may share info on Kefir which I'll probably never be interested

in.

That is what the delete button is for.

That's my $0.03

Tony

On 1/29/2012 9:36 PM, Apricot043 wrote:

 

I know no one is asking for a vote, but if given one, I

would vote for a

group rule that prohibits discussions on politics and

sugars.

People know how to do the research themselves and there is

no point in

trying persuade from choices. I would rather promote an

accepting group

culture.

My personal opinion is that real sugar will kill people

much faster than

any of the alternative versions. I truly believe that, and

have reasons

to believe that. I fear too much sugary fruit for the same

reasons.

I've been in the group for a short time and have watched

two heated

discussions. Members here are truly lovely and everyone

means well, so

why can't we make the topic off limits.

Amy

-- Barbara

[Guest guest]

I have appreciated the sugar/sweetener discussions and my opinion concerning artificial chemical sweeteners differs from Amy's as well.

Ann

On Jan 29, 2012 7:42 PM, " " <berrywell@...> wrote:

 

That is of course Lea Ann's choice, but the sugar issue does come up often, and usually does get a bit heated. I think that is because it seems that each is trying to present their case, validate their own reasons, etc. I do think the sugar topic SHOULD be discussed, because it is relevent to what ingredients go in to smoothies and other recipes, but I agree that we all need to be more tolerant of each others CHOICE to use whatever we think is best. As for politics, PULEEESE lets not discuss them on here...enough of that on the TV! Lea Ann is busy at a show this week, so I am trying to keep on top of group topics for her, but she will make this decision when she can. In the meantime, perhaps we can all be more careful in our wording so as not to offend the choices of others.

>

> I know no one is asking for a vote, but if given one, I would vote for a

> group rule that prohibits discussions on politics and sugars.

>

> People know how to do the research themselves and there is no point in

> trying persuade from choices. I would rather promote an accepting group

> culture.

>

> My personal opinion is that real sugar will kill people much faster than

> any of the alternative versions. I truly believe that, and have reasons

> to believe that. I fear too much sugary fruit for the same reasons.

> I've been in the group for a short time and have watched two heated

> discussions. Members here are truly lovely and everyone means well, so

> why can't we make the topic off limits.

>

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

ditto. what he said

From: Tony Szpara

Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:10 PM

Subject: Re: Sugars (real and alternative)

I don't see a problem. Everyone seemed respectful of each other.Everyone is different.Some eat gluten, meat, paleo, cooked, raw etc.Someone may share a link or information that I'm not interested in right now.(Solar ovens) but I'll save it for future use.If they already did the research and have the links it save me time.Some may share info on Kefir which I'll probably never be interested in.That is what the delete button is for.That's my $0.03TonyOn 1/29/2012 9:36 PM, Apricot043 wrote:

I know no one is asking for a vote, but if given one, I would vote for a group rule that prohibits discussions on politics and sugars.People know how to do the research themselves and there is no point in trying persuade from choices. I would rather promote an accepting group culture.My personal opinion is that real sugar will kill people much faster than any of the alternative versions. I truly believe that, and have reasons to believe that. I fear too much sugary fruit for the same reasons. I've been in the group for a short time and have watched two heated discussions. Members here are truly lovely and everyone means well, so why can't we make the topic off limits.Amy

[Guest guest]

good attention to details

On 1/29/2012 10:22 PM, Barbara wrote:

 

I'm with Tony. Thanks for your insight, Tony. BTW-- I see

the price for opinions is also affected by inflation. LOL

Barb T.  :-)

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:10 PM,

Tony Szpara <tszpara@...>

wrote:

 

I don't see a problem.  Everyone seemed

respectful of each other.

Everyone is different.

Some eat gluten, meat, paleo, cooked, raw etc.

Someone may share a link or information that

I'm not interested in right now.

(Solar ovens) but I'll save it for future use.

If they already did the research and have the

links it save me time.

Some may share info on Kefir which I'll

probably never be interested in.

That is what the delete button is for.

That's my $0.03

Tony

On 1/29/2012 9:36 PM, Apricot043 wrote:

 

I know no one is asking for a vote, but

if given one, I would vote for a

group rule that prohibits discussions on

politics and sugars.

People know how to do the research

themselves and there is no point in

trying persuade from choices. I would

rather promote an accepting group

culture.

My personal opinion is that real sugar

will kill people much faster than

any of the alternative versions. I truly

believe that, and have reasons

to believe that. I fear too much sugary

fruit for the same reasons.

I've been in the group for a short time

and have watched two heated

discussions. Members here are truly

lovely and everyone means well, so

why can't we make the topic off limits.

Amy

--

Barbara

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[Guest guest]

Ann, the subject was not about chemical sweeteners. The

subject was alternative sugars, and that includes stevia. Stevia

is used as an alternative to sugar.

The subject of real sugar is a topic that relates to diabetes

and cancer.

One resource on the topic of sugar is Dr. Lustig's lecure

called “Sugar: The Bitter Truth,” which was posted on

YouTube The video has been viral for some time now, so you

may have already watched.

Lustig is a specialist on hormone disorders and the leading

expert in childhood obesity at the University of California, San

Francisco, School of Medicine. The lecture is not about "chemical

sugars", it is about sugar and fructose.

Here is a short, easy-to-read article on how cancer uses sugar.

http://drmirkin.blogspot.com/2012/01/cancer-cells-need-more-sugar.html

Amy

Posted by: "Ann Brandenberger"

mrsbberger@... mrsbberger

I have appreciated the sugar/sweetener discussions and my opinion

concerning artificial chemical sweeteners differs from Amy's as

well.

Ann