Guest guest Posted June 22, 2000 Report Share Posted June 22, 2000 What seems to work the best is the non-flush niacin capsules. One or two of them three times a day. That should take care of it. They are safe and do not cause the unpleasant flushing associated with higher doses of niacin. For regular cramps, calcium, potassium, magnesium, and vitamin E would be enough. At 84, anybody should be taking a supplement with those ingredients anyway. Also, to oxygenate, Vit. O drops would be recommended. If you wanted to add cayenne pepper, that too would increase circulation, but I don't see that it is needed to help her. JP > |My 84 year old mother suffers from intermittent caludication. > |Her doctor prescribed wine which helped somewhat but now she is ready to > |try some nutritional supplements. Any suggestions? Things like ginko, > |phos. serine, acetyl L carnitine, come to mind. I need to keep the > |number of supplements to a minimum for her to comply but need maximum > |bang. > | > |Thanks, > | > |Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2000 Report Share Posted June 22, 2000 The 'non-flush' version of Niacin is known as niacinimide, and is very effective at dilating the blood vessels deep in the body tissues and organs, while regular niacin is effective at dilating the surface blood vessels (hence the 'flush'). Also, you develop a tolerance to the flush effect fairly quickly, which suggests to me that your surface blood vessels are STAYING open. Re: Intermittant Claudication > What seems to work the best is the non-flush niacin > capsules. One or two of them three times a day. That > should take care of it. They are safe and do not > cause the unpleasant flushing associated with higher > doses of niacin. > > For regular cramps, calcium, potassium, magnesium, > and vitamin E would be enough. At 84, anybody should > be taking a supplement with those ingredients anyway. > > Also, to oxygenate, Vit. O drops would be recommended. > If you wanted to add cayenne pepper, that too would increase > circulation, but I don't see that it is needed to help her. > JP > > > |My 84 year old mother suffers from intermittent caludication. > > |Her doctor prescribed wine which helped somewhat but now she is ready to > > |try some nutritional supplements. Any suggestions? Things like ginko, > > |phos. serine, acetyl L carnitine, come to mind. I need to keep the > > |number of supplements to a minimum for her to comply but need maximum > > |bang. > > | > > |Thanks, > > | > > |Dennis > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- -------------- > Get 6 months of FREE* MSN Internet access! > 1/5725/6/_/507288/_/961700547/ > ---------------------------------------------------------- -------------- > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted June 22, 2000 Report Share Posted June 22, 2000 Try 30mls of whisky with fruit juice before retiring each night, works well for my mother. Regards Noel Professor Noel 89 Royal Parade Parkville VIC 3052 Australia Phone 03 9347 8444 International 613 9347 8444 Fax 03 9347 8850 International 613 9347 8850 Email noelc@... Web www.smile.org.au Sapere Aude: Dare to be wise. All truth goes through three stages: first it is ridiculed: then it is violently opposed: finally it is accepted as self evident. Schopenhauer. Intermittant Claudication My 84 year old mother suffers from intermittent caludication. Her doctor prescribed wine which helped somewhat but now she is ready to try some nutritional supplements. Any suggestions? Things like ginko, phos. serine, acetyl L carnitine, come to mind. I need to keep the number of supplements to a minimum for her to comply but need maximum bang. Thanks, Dennis ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! 1/2658/6/_/507288/_/961690127/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2000 Report Share Posted June 22, 2000 That's true about niacinamide, but actually I was referring to inositol hexanicotinate. I am thinking about a formula that has that plus chromium and vitamin C in it. It seems to work really fast on intermittent claudication. I don't know if the niacinamide would do that, although I think it is supposed to be pretty good on arthritic knee pain. It is a deep vasodilator so you would think it would work, but I would suggest looking for the inositol hexanicotinate. > The 'non-flush' version of Niacin is known as niacinimide, > and is very effective at dilating the blood vessels deep in > the body tissues and organs, while regular niacin is > effective at dilating the surface blood vessels (hence the > 'flush'). Also, you develop a tolerance to the flush effect > fairly quickly, which suggests to me that your surface blood > vessels are STAYING open. > > > > Re: Intermittant Claudication > > > > What seems to work the best is the non-flush niacin > > capsules. One or two of them three times a day. That > > should take care of it. They are safe and do not > > cause the unpleasant flushing associated with higher > > doses of niacin. > > > > For regular cramps, calcium, potassium, magnesium, > > and vitamin E would be enough. At 84, anybody should > > be taking a supplement with those ingredients anyway. > > > > Also, to oxygenate, Vit. O drops would be recommended. > > If you wanted to add cayenne pepper, that too would > increase > > circulation, but I don't see that it is needed to help > her. > > JP > > > > > |My 84 year old mother suffers from intermittent > caludication. > > > |Her doctor prescribed wine which helped somewhat but > now she is ready to > > > |try some nutritional supplements. Any suggestions? > Things like ginko, > > > |phos. serine, acetyl L carnitine, come to mind. I need > to keep the > > > |number of supplements to a minimum for her to comply > but need maximum > > > |bang. > > > | > > > |Thanks, > > > | > > > |Dennis > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > > Get 6 months of FREE* MSN Internet access! > > 1/5725/6/_/507288/_/961700547/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative > therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you > will find here are for information and research purposes > only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If > you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. > Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By > joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY > responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here > without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > researcher or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to > the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the > message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription > to normal mode. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get Your Credit Report FREE and Online at ConsumerInfo.Com! > 1/5784/6/_/507288/_/961704031/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2000 Report Share Posted June 22, 2000 , Any idea as to the manufacturer of the formula you refer to? Dennis Price wrote: > > That's true about niacinamide, but actually I was referring to > inositol hexanicotinate. I am thinking about a formula that > has that plus chromium and vitamin C in it. It seems to > work really fast on intermittent claudication. I don't know > if the niacinamide would do that, although I think it is > supposed to be pretty good on arthritic knee pain. It is > a deep vasodilator so you would think it would work, > but I would suggest looking for the inositol hexanicotinate. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2000 Report Share Posted June 23, 2000 Go to a health food store and ask for non-flush niacin with inositol hexanicotinate or just nose around in the B vitamins. I would think that you can find it. I order mine through the mail. Take it for about three days and if it doesn't help, double the dose until you find a dose that does. One caution: just because it works, don't think that once the symptoms go away, you can stop. The problem will probably come back within a week. Just be thankful for something that works and stay on it. Good luck. JP > Any idea as to the manufacturer of the formula you refer to? > > Dennis > > Price wrote: > > > > That's true about niacinamide, but actually I was referring to > > inositol hexanicotinate. I am thinking about a formula that > > has that plus chromium and vitamin C in it. It seems to > > work really fast on intermittent claudication. I don't know > > if the niacinamide would do that, although I think it is > > supposed to be pretty good on arthritic knee pain. It is > > a deep vasodilator so you would think it would work, > > but I would suggest looking for the inositol hexanicotinate. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Gain peace of mind, and take control of the accuracy of your credit report. > Sign up for a FREE online credit report from ConsumerInfo.Com! > 1/5785/6/_/507288/_/961719161/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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