Re: OT - another Kefir question Def of Whey

[Guest guest]

This says it better than I can.

Whey or Milk Serum is the liquid remaining after milk has

been curdled

and strained.

On 3/22/2012 8:36 PM, Rena Glubay wrote:

Oh,  I

thought I was suppose to remove the whey.  What is it

anyway?

Rena

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Happy moments, praise God.

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On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:31 PM, patti <patti720@...>

wrote:

 

when my kefir separates I shake the jar

& voila!  you have a whole jar of kefir!

 

Patti

 

From:

Rena Glubay <jp17aday@...>

To:

Sent:

Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:27 PM

Subject:

OT - another Kefir

question

 

I

have been having fairly good

success in making the kefir. 

But I was wondering, about 1/2

of the volume ends up being

whey. So I end up with very

little kefir for the amount of

milk I am using.  Does it

matter what the fat content of

the milk is?  I am using

reduced fat (2% I think). 

Would whole be better or 1%? 

BTW - I like what the whey

does for my hair!

Rena

If God brings you to it, He will

bring you through it.

Happy moments, praise God.

Difficult moments, seek God.

Quiet moments, worship God.

Painful moments, trust God.

Every moment, thank God.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Velda for looking that up.  The guy who gave me the grains sees whey as a " by-product " so he throws it out.  Not exactly sure why it seems bad (or perhaps just inferior) to him.  I am going to try shaking up my current batch and see what I think.  It would sure be nice to have a quart or so of kefir instead of just a couple cups (if that).

RenaIf God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.Happy moments, praise God.

Difficult moments, seek God. Quiet moments, worship God. Painful moments, trust God. Every moment, thank God.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Velda <solomon@...> wrote:

 

This says it better than I can.

Whey or Milk Serum is the liquid remaining after milk has

been curdled

and strained.

On 3/22/2012 8:36 PM, Rena Glubay wrote:

Oh,  I

thought I was suppose to remove the whey.  What is it

anyway?

Rena

If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.

Happy moments, praise God.

Difficult moments, seek God.

Quiet moments, worship God.

Painful moments, trust God.

Every moment, thank God.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:31 PM, patti <patti720@...>

wrote:

 

when my kefir separates I shake the jar

& voila!  you have a whole jar of kefir!

 

Patti

 

From:

Rena Glubay <jp17aday@...>

To:

Sent:

Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:27 PM

Subject:

OT - another Kefir

question

 

I

have been having fairly good

success in making the kefir. 

But I was wondering, about 1/2

of the volume ends up being

whey. So I end up with very

little kefir for the amount of

milk I am using.  Does it

matter what the fat content of

the milk is?  I am using

reduced fat (2% I think). 

Would whole be better or 1%? 

BTW - I like what the whey

does for my hair!

Rena

If God brings you to it, He will

bring you through it.

Happy moments, praise God.

Difficult moments, seek God.

Quiet moments, worship God.

Painful moments, trust God.

Every moment, thank God.

[Guest guest]

Rena, My Kefir smoothie routine is this:In my VM I throw a handful of frozen berries of choice (sometimes I also add a handful of fresh baby spinach),Add jar of finished kefir (including whey): smooth/chunky/separated,doesn't matter.I add a few drops of NuNaturals alcohol free Vanilla Stevia if needed to my own desired sweetness, give it a short whirl in the VM.Then I usually slow the blender down and add about 1/2 teaspoon or so of Konjac Glucomannan (sometimes chia) as a thickener and to keep me feeling fuller longer. Drop it right down the vortex (keeps it from getting so much on the sides of the jar). If I'm wanting a pudding for dessert, I add more Konjac. (Cocoa powder or nibs and some expresso coffee powder makes a great pudding when you are ready for more expiramentation.)Lately I have been adding a little vanilla almond milk; changes up the flavor a bit and is also really yummy.

HTH

Carol K---- Rena Glubay <jp17aday@...> wrote: <<... The guy who gave me the grains sees whey as a " by-product " so he throws it out. Not exactly sure why it seems bad (or perhaps just inferior) to him. I am going to try shaking up my current batch and see what I think. It would sure be nice to have a quart or so of kefir instead of just a couple cups (if that). *Rena*

[Guest guest]

Thanks Carol for those suggestions.  Do you soak your chia, or grind them before you add them to the smoothie.  I have been adding just about a cup, maybe 2 (I don't measure) to a blender full of ingredients.  My family isn't quite on board with the kefir so I don't want the flavor overwhelmed with it and yet still give them some of the benefits. 

I haven't had breakfast yet - I think I'll go make some right now!Rena

If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.Happy moments, praise God. Difficult moments, seek God. Quiet moments, worship God. Painful moments, trust God. Every moment, thank God.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:50 AM, <ckarnes@...> wrote:

 

Rena, My Kefir smoothie routine is this:In my VM I throw a handful of frozen berries of choice (sometimes I also add a handful of fresh baby spinach),Add jar of finished kefir (including whey): smooth/chunky/separated,doesn't matter.I add a few drops of NuNaturals alcohol free Vanilla Stevia if needed to my own desired sweetness, give it a short whirl in the VM.Then I usually slow the blender down and add about 1/2 teaspoon or so of Konjac Glucomannan (sometimes chia) as a thickener and to keep me feeling fuller longer. Drop it right down the vortex (keeps it from getting so much on the sides of the jar). If I'm wanting a pudding for dessert, I add more Konjac. (Cocoa powder or nibs and some expresso coffee powder makes a great pudding when you are ready for more expiramentation.)Lately I have been adding a little vanilla almond milk; changes up the flavor a bit and is also really yummy.

HTH

Carol K---- Rena Glubay <jp17aday@...> wrote: <<... The guy who gave me the grains sees whey as a " by-product " so he throws it out. Not exactly sure why it seems bad (or perhaps just inferior) to him. I am going to try shaking up my current batch and see what I think. It would sure be nice to have a quart or so of kefir instead of just a couple cups (if that). *Rena*

[Guest guest]

I would like to say I soak my chia, but I'm not usually that organized so I just

chuck them into the container, as is! I don't notice all that much flavor

difference with chia.

I have one grand daughter who won't try the kefir, and one who will drink/eat as

much as I give her. Try starting your family with the almond milk trick. Also

fresh strawberries seem to add the best, fruit off the vine taste!!

Carol k

---- Rena Glubay <jp17aday@...> wrote:

> Thanks Carol for those suggestions. Do you soak your chia, or grind them

> before you add them to the smoothie. I have been adding just about a cup,

> maybe 2 (I don't measure) to a blender full of ingredients. My family

> isn't quite on board with the kefir so I don't want the flavor overwhelmed

> with it and yet still give them some of the benefits.

>

> I haven't had breakfast yet - I think I'll go make some right now!

>

> *Rena*

> If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.

>

> Happy moments, *praise* God.

> Difficult moments, *seek* God.

> Quiet moments, *worship* God.

> Painful moments, *trust* God.

> Every moment, *thank* God.

>

>

>

>

> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:50 AM, <ckarnes@...> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Rena, My Kefir smoothie routine is this:

> > In my VM I throw a handful of frozen berries of choice (sometimes I also

> > add a handful of fresh baby spinach),

> > Add jar of finished kefir (including whey):

> > smooth/chunky/separated,doesn't matter.

> > I add a few drops of NuNaturals alcohol free Vanilla Stevia if needed to

> > my own desired sweetness, give it a short whirl in the VM.

> > Then I usually slow the blender down and add about 1/2 teaspoon or so of

> > Konjac Glucomannan (sometimes chia) as a thickener and to keep me feeling

> > fuller longer. Drop it right down the vortex (keeps it from getting so much

> > on the sides of the jar). If I'm wanting a pudding for dessert, I add more

> > Konjac. (Cocoa powder or nibs and some expresso coffee powder makes a great

> > pudding when you are ready for more expiramentation.)

> > Lately I have been adding a little vanilla almond milk; changes up the

> > flavor a bit and is also really yummy. HTH Carol K

> >

> >

> > ---- Rena Glubay <jp17aday@...> wrote: <<... The guy who gave me

> > the grains sees whey as a " by-product " so he throws it out. Not exactly

> > sure why it seems bad (or perhaps just inferior) to him. I am going to try

> > shaking up my current batch and see what I think. It would sure be nice to

> > have a quart or so of kefir instead of just a couple cups (if that). *Rena*

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol,Good suggestions.  Thanks! I usually soak a batch of chia and keep it in the refrig to use when ever I want to add them to my smoothie.

RenaIf God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.Happy moments, praise God.

Difficult moments, seek God. Quiet moments, worship God. Painful moments, trust God. Every moment, thank God.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:13 PM, <ckarnes@...> wrote:

 

I would like to say I soak my chia, but I'm not usually that organized so I just chuck them into the container, as is! I don't notice all that much flavor difference with chia.

I have one grand daughter who won't try the kefir, and one who will drink/eat as much as I give her. Try starting your family with the almond milk trick. Also fresh strawberries seem to add the best, fruit off the vine taste!!

Carol k

---- Rena Glubay <jp17aday@...> wrote:

> Thanks Carol for those suggestions. Do you soak your chia, or grind them

> before you add them to the smoothie. I have been adding just about a cup,

> maybe 2 (I don't measure) to a blender full of ingredients. My family

> isn't quite on board with the kefir so I don't want the flavor overwhelmed

> with it and yet still give them some of the benefits.

>

> I haven't had breakfast yet - I think I'll go make some right now!

>

> *Rena*

> If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.

>

> Happy moments, *praise* God.

> Difficult moments, *seek* God.

> Quiet moments, *worship* God.

> Painful moments, *trust* God.

> Every moment, *thank* God.

>

>

>

>

> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:50 AM, <ckarnes@...> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Rena, My Kefir smoothie routine is this:

> > In my VM I throw a handful of frozen berries of choice (sometimes I also

> > add a handful of fresh baby spinach),

> > Add jar of finished kefir (including whey):

> > smooth/chunky/separated,doesn't matter.

> > I add a few drops of NuNaturals alcohol free Vanilla Stevia if needed to

> > my own desired sweetness, give it a short whirl in the VM.

> > Then I usually slow the blender down and add about 1/2 teaspoon or so of

> > Konjac Glucomannan (sometimes chia) as a thickener and to keep me feeling

> > fuller longer. Drop it right down the vortex (keeps it from getting so much

> > on the sides of the jar). If I'm wanting a pudding for dessert, I add more

> > Konjac. (Cocoa powder or nibs and some expresso coffee powder makes a great

> > pudding when you are ready for more expiramentation.)

> > Lately I have been adding a little vanilla almond milk; changes up the

> > flavor a bit and is also really yummy. HTH Carol K

> >

> >

> > ---- Rena Glubay <jp17aday@...> wrote: <<... The guy who gave me

> > the grains sees whey as a " by-product " so he throws it out. Not exactly

> > sure why it seems bad (or perhaps just inferior) to him. I am going to try

> > shaking up my current batch and see what I think. It would sure be nice to

> > have a quart or so of kefir instead of just a couple cups (if that). *Rena*

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

That is amusing he thinks of it as a by product to be tossed. Has he

not noticed how popular whey powders are these days with fitness

buffs? I would stir or shake it back in, as I do with yogurt.

Velda

On 3/23/2012 7:15 AM, Rena Glubay wrote:

Thanks,

Velda for looking that up.  The guy who gave me the grains

sees whey as a "by-product" so he throws it out.  Not

exactly sure why it seems bad (or perhaps just inferior) to

him.  I am going to try shaking up my current batch and see

what I think.  It would sure be nice to have a quart or so

of kefir instead of just a couple cups (if that).

Rena

If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.

Happy moments, praise God.

Difficult moments, seek God.

Quiet moments, worship God.

Painful moments, trust God.

Every moment, thank God.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Velda

<solomon@...>

wrote:

 

This says it better than I can.

Whey or Milk Serum is the liquid

remaining after milk has been curdled and

strained.

On 3/22/2012 8:36 PM, Rena Glubay wrote:

Oh,  I thought I was

suppose to remove the whey.  What is it

anyway?

Rena

If God brings you to it, He will bring you through

it.

Happy moments, praise God.

Difficult moments, seek God.

Quiet moments, worship God.

Painful moments, trust God.

Every moment, thank God.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at

9:31 PM, patti <patti720@...>

wrote:

 

when my kefir separates I

shake the jar & voila!  you

have a whole jar of kefir!

 

Patti

 

From:

Rena Glubay <jp17aday@...>

To:

Sent:

Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:27

PM

Subject:

OT -

another Kefir question

 

I have been having fairly good success in

making the

kefir.  But I

was wondering,

about 1/2 of the

volume ends up

being whey. So I

end up with very

little kefir for

the amount of

milk I am

using.  Does it

matter what the

fat content of

the milk is?  I

am using reduced

fat (2% I

think).  Would

whole be better

or 1%?  BTW - I

like what the

whey does for my

hair!

Rena

If God brings you to

it, He will bring you

through it.

Happy moments, praise God.

Difficult moments, seek God.

Quiet moments, worship God.

Painful moments, trust God.

Every moment, thank God.

[Guest guest]

When I first read this, I thought you meant a cup of chia seeds! Now

that would be a thick mixture!

Velda

On 3/23/2012 9:06 AM, Rena Glubay wrote:

Thanks

Carol for those suggestions.  Do you soak your chia, or

grind them before you add them to the smoothie.  I have been

adding just about a cup, maybe 2 (I don't measure) to a

blender full of ingredients.  My family isn't quite on board

with the kefir so I don't want the flavor overwhelmed with

it and yet still give them some of the benefits. 

I haven't had breakfast yet - I think I'll go make some

right now!

Rena

If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.

Happy moments, praise God.

Difficult moments, seek God.

Quiet moments, worship God.

Painful moments, trust God.

Every moment, thank God.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:50 AM, <ckarnes@...>

wrote:

 

Rena, My Kefir smoothie routine is this:

In my VM I throw a handful of frozen berries of

choice (sometimes I also add a handful of fresh

baby spinach),

Add jar of finished kefir (including whey):

smooth/chunky/separated,doesn't matter.

I add a few drops of NuNaturals alcohol free

Vanilla Stevia if needed to my own desired

sweetness, give it a short whirl in the VM.

Then I usually slow the blender down and add about

1/2 teaspoon or so of Konjac Glucomannan

(sometimes chia) as a thickener and to keep me

feeling fuller longer. Drop it right down the

vortex (keeps it from getting so much on the sides

of the jar). If I'm wanting a pudding for dessert,

I add more Konjac. (Cocoa powder or nibs and some

expresso coffee powder makes a great pudding when

you are ready for more expiramentation.)

Lately I have been adding a little vanilla almond

milk; changes up the flavor a bit and is also

really yummy.

HTH

Carol K

---- Rena Glubay <jp17aday@...>

wrote: <<... The guy who gave me the grains

sees whey as a "by-product" so he throws it out.

Not exactly sure why it seems bad (or perhaps just

inferior) to him. I am going to try shaking up my

current batch and see what I think. It would sure

be nice to have a quart or so of kefir instead of

just a couple cups (if that). *Rena*

[Guest guest]

Well, that's kinda his point.  Now that somebody has figured out a way to make money off it they dehydrate it and sell it as a supplement.  I guess he doesn't feel like it has that many benefits. 

BTW - I am pretty disappointed in the kefir I have been making.  It is not smooth and creamy at all.  Whether I shake back in the whey or siphon it off, it is clumpy and feels more like drinking curdled milk.  Am I using it too soon?  Does it need to sit in the refrig longer to thicken up?  The last few batches I have made have been over half whey.  The one I did last night (which is still on the kitchen counter) at this point hasn't separated at all (and usually it starts separating right away).

What are the benefit differences between kefir and yogurt?  I have been thinking about buying some starts that will process on the counter without preheating the milk.  I don't necessarily want to do both and wondered which is best (if there is such a thing).

TIA!RenaIf God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.

Happy moments, praise God. Difficult moments, seek God. Quiet moments, worship God. Painful moments, trust God. Every moment, thank God.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Velda <solomon@...> wrote:

 

That is amusing he thinks of it as a by product to be tossed. Has he

not noticed how popular whey powders are these days with fitness

buffs? I would stir or shake it back in, as I do with yogurt.

Velda

On 3/23/2012 7:15 AM, Rena Glubay wrote:

Thanks,

Velda for looking that up.  The guy who gave me the grains

sees whey as a " by-product " so he throws it out.  Not

exactly sure why it seems bad (or perhaps just inferior) to

him.  I am going to try shaking up my current batch and see

what I think.  It would sure be nice to have a quart or so

of kefir instead of just a couple cups (if that).

Rena

If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.

Happy moments, praise God.

Difficult moments, seek God.

Quiet moments, worship God.

Painful moments, trust God.

Every moment, thank God.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Velda

<solomon@...>

wrote:

 

This says it better than I can.

Whey or Milk Serum is the liquid

remaining after milk has been curdled and

strained.

On 3/22/2012 8:36 PM, Rena Glubay wrote:

Oh,  I thought I was

suppose to remove the whey.  What is it

anyway?

Rena

If God brings you to it, He will bring you through

it.

Happy moments, praise God.

Difficult moments, seek God.

Quiet moments, worship God.

Painful moments, trust God.

Every moment, thank God.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at

9:31 PM, patti <patti720@...>

wrote:

 

when my kefir separates I

shake the jar & voila!  you

have a whole jar of kefir!

 

Patti

 

From:

Rena Glubay <jp17aday@...>

To:

Sent:

Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:27

PM

Subject:

OT -

another Kefir question

 

I have been having fairly good success in

making the

kefir.  But I

was wondering,

about 1/2 of the

volume ends up

being whey. So I

end up with very

little kefir for

the amount of

milk I am

using.  Does it

matter what the

fat content of

the milk is?  I

am using reduced

fat (2% I

think).  Would

whole be better

or 1%?  BTW - I

like what the

whey does for my

hair!

Rena

If God brings you to

it, He will bring you

through it.

Happy moments, praise God.

Difficult moments, seek God.

Quiet moments, worship God.

Painful moments, trust God.

Every moment, thank God.