Guest guest Posted April 27, 1999 Report Share Posted April 27, 1999 Dear , Please don't apologize, it is part of my OCD to analyze everything I say, everything that is said to me etc. This could go on forever if I don't put a stop to it. I was truthfully asking if you were being sarcastic because I am famous for every other one of my sentences being sarcastic. Something my family is use to and I just expect from others I suppose. You may not have a sarcastic bone in your body but I can honestly say that I don't have a bone that isn't sarcastic! =-) Please forgive my forwardness, I just like to know where I stand so I don't have to stay up all night trying to analyze words. I would like to say something, this has been a terrible OCD month for my daughter and myself. We both were switched from Zoloft to Luvox at the same time and there are days when we are both crying in a corner. I wouldn't trade this experience for anything though. I am so thankful to KNOW what my daughter is feeling, or have an idea. My husband makes comments like, " Why can't she just stop taking so many showers " . I KNOW why she can't, it is a feeling, an inner voice that won't stop nagging us. I also have more patience with my husband because I know how hard it must be to understand what goes through somebody's mind with OCD. We all have some OCD tendencies I believe anyway and that makes it so much more difficult to understand. Say your neighbor is a " hoarder " . BUT when she realizes that she has accumulated too much stuff even though it is painful and hard she can get rid of the excess. A Hoarder with OCD CAN'T get rid of the excess. So people identify with people with OCD but they can't really get the full picture of how much it really takes over your life........ Sorry if I came across gruff. New meds are the pits! My daughter is a terror!!! As for Time outs and making her take responsibility for her actions, yes we do that. We are consistent with her time outs and such but it is important to remember that she isn't a " bad " kid, just a kid with OCD. She needs more help then my other children when it comes to everyday stuff. Sorry I have rambled. You can get a copy of the touching tree from the OC Foundation. I can get the information for you, just not tonight. Tomorrow. =-) Thanks you for being so kind and understanding. Knod wrote: > From: <maryth3@...> > > , > I'm so sorry, I was not being sarcastic. I truly > meant that I was grateful for you giving me some > insight. I agree with you wholeheartedly! > > I would never want to have this terrible illness, > but for just one day I'd like to crawl into my > son's body to get an idea of what he is having > to cope with. > > I don't have a sarcastic bone in my body when > it comes to OCD. Sorry again. > mary > > Knod wrote: > > > From: Knod <kelly@...> > > > > Dear , > > > > Unfortunately I miss most of the posts and for this I also miss the entire conversation > > which kind of puts me in a spot of not hearing everything I should hear before > > coming to a conclusion. > > > > I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic by putting " shedding some light " in > > quotation marks. I don't mean to sound as if I know it all because I certainly > > don't. Unfortunately I know what it is like to have OCD. I also know what > > it is like to have a 2 year old waking me up at all hours of the night to clean an > > already spotless house. > > > > So if I mistated I apologize. It just sounded to me that your " pushing " an OCDER > > is similar to making an anorexic eat. You can't MAKE an anorexic eat and you > > can't make an OCDER just stop their compulsions. This is something they need > > to do with professional help and it needs to be an accomplishment all their own. > > > > Good Luck. > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > From: <maryth3@...> > > > > > > , > > > Thanks for " shedding some light " on this > > > subject. You are right, most of us don't have > > > OCD, and have no understanding of what it's > > > like to have it. I am trying to be as patient and > > > understanding as I can be while at the same time > > > giving that extra push. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > mary from LA > > > > > > Knod wrote: > > > > > > > From: Knod <kelly@...> > > > > > > > > I agree to some extent that our children need to be responsible for their actions regardless of the OCD or not. HOWEVER, I am a Mother who has OCD and until you have had the nagging > > > > thoughts and the scary obsessions and rituals it is impossible to understand just how hard it is to " control " your OCD behavior. > > > > > > > > Through Behavior Therapy my daughter and myself have learned ways of handling our OCD but to tell me that I need to be responsible for something I truly have no control over makes no sense. > > > > With Behavior Therapy I have learned ways to Control my thoughts and feelings but without it you can't expect a child to just take responsibility for her OCD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Noelle136@... wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Noelle136@... > > > > > > > > > > Theresa, > > > > > I commend you for teaching your daughter to be responsible for her > > > > > behavior, OCD or not. I am working on this with my five year old. I just > > > > > feel he needs to know that OCD or not, he is ultimately responsible for his > > > > > actions and the effects they have. Perhaps if my husband had learned this > > > > > lesson he would not have left us. He has chronic depression and therefore > > > > > believes anything and everything he does is justified because he has a > > > > > " disability " . He is destroying his family but it is not his fault due to > > > > > depression. I will not allow my son to fall into this way of thinking. I do > > > > > chose my battles, I am well educated about OCD, and I help him. But > > > > > ultimately, he must learn to be responsible for his actions. In a way your > > > > > letter was encouragement to me. To see that another is expecting this from > > > > > and OCD child. 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Guest guest Posted April 27, 1999 Report Share Posted April 27, 1999 , I'm so sorry, I was not being sarcastic. I truly meant that I was grateful for you giving me some insight. I agree with you wholeheartedly! I would never want to have this terrible illness, but for just one day I'd like to crawl into my son's body to get an idea of what he is having to cope with. I don't have a sarcastic bone in my body when it comes to OCD. Sorry again. mary Knod wrote: > From: Knod <kelly@...> > > Dear , > > Unfortunately I miss most of the posts and for this I also miss the entire conversation > which kind of puts me in a spot of not hearing everything I should hear before > coming to a conclusion. > > I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic by putting " shedding some light " in > quotation marks. I don't mean to sound as if I know it all because I certainly > don't. Unfortunately I know what it is like to have OCD. I also know what > it is like to have a 2 year old waking me up at all hours of the night to clean an > already spotless house. > > So if I mistated I apologize. It just sounded to me that your " pushing " an OCDER > is similar to making an anorexic eat. You can't MAKE an anorexic eat and you > can't make an OCDER just stop their compulsions. This is something they need > to do with professional help and it needs to be an accomplishment all their own. > > Good Luck. > > > > wrote: > > > From: <maryth3@...> > > > > , > > Thanks for " shedding some light " on this > > subject. You are right, most of us don't have > > OCD, and have no understanding of what it's > > like to have it. I am trying to be as patient and > > understanding as I can be while at the same time > > giving that extra push. > > > > Thanks, > > mary from LA > > > > Knod wrote: > > > > > From: Knod <kelly@...> > > > > > > I agree to some extent that our children need to be responsible for their actions regardless of the OCD or not. HOWEVER, I am a Mother who has OCD and until you have had the nagging > > > thoughts and the scary obsessions and rituals it is impossible to understand just how hard it is to " control " your OCD behavior. > > > > > > Through Behavior Therapy my daughter and myself have learned ways of handling our OCD but to tell me that I need to be responsible for something I truly have no control over makes no sense. > > > With Behavior Therapy I have learned ways to Control my thoughts and feelings but without it you can't expect a child to just take responsibility for her OCD. > > > > > > > > > > > > Noelle136@... wrote: > > > > > > > From: Noelle136@... > > > > > > > > Theresa, > > > > I commend you for teaching your daughter to be responsible for her > > > > behavior, OCD or not. I am working on this with my five year old. I just > > > > feel he needs to know that OCD or not, he is ultimately responsible for his > > > > actions and the effects they have. Perhaps if my husband had learned this > > > > lesson he would not have left us. He has chronic depression and therefore > > > > believes anything and everything he does is justified because he has a > > > > " disability " . He is destroying his family but it is not his fault due to > > > > depression. I will not allow my son to fall into this way of thinking. I do > > > > chose my battles, I am well educated about OCD, and I help him. But > > > > ultimately, he must learn to be responsible for his actions. In a way your > > > > letter was encouragement to me. To see that another is expecting this from > > > > and OCD child. Thank you. > > > > noelle > > > > noelle136@... > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Did you know that knowledge is power? > > > > http://www.ONElist.com > > > > Join a new ONElist e-mail community and strengthen your mind! > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > The is sponsored by the OCSDA. You may visit their web site at http://www.ocdhelp.org/ and view schedules for chatroom support at http://www.ocdhelp.org/chat.html > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > iVillage.com: The #1 Women's Network has the answers you need > > > /ad/iVillage0. We've got experts and over a > > > million members to help you with stuff from daycare to dieting. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > The is sponsored by the OCSDA. You may visit their web site at http://www.ocdhelp.org/ and view schedules for chatroom support at http://www.ocdhelp.org/chat.html > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? > > http://www.ONElist.com > > Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The is sponsored by the OCSDA. You may visit their web site at http://www.ocdhelp.org/ and view schedules for chatroom support at http://www.ocdhelp.org/chat.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Has ONElist changed your life? > http://www.ONElist.com > Visit our homepage and share with us your experiences at ONElist of the Week! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The is sponsored by the OCSDA. 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