Re: My Experience with Dr. Huang

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Hate to say it but you could have been the bigger person here and let it go without this last post. Everyone should just drop it.naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote:

Fine Lynda no matter how many times I try to end this you have to have the last word don't you. Go ahead and say something after me one more time, that way yours will be the last word. There is no way to end this unless it is you who ends it is there?I am doneIn , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:> I can see that you just want to keep this going, so I will say it again.> > Huang is an excellent surgeon, operated on my daughter, and I have > had thousands of women I referred to her without one negative > complaint. Everyone can have a bad day, and some things can be misinterpreted.> > Everyone is entitled to his/her experience, but that does not make this > doctor controversial. I could tell you some

hair-raising stories about > other doctors, including Dr. Feng. I won't, as it would not help our cause.> > I have no problem with someone sharing their experience, but when they have > to bring up something negative every time I recommend someone, that is not > just sharing an experience.> > Can we just quit with the doctors not. IT IS NOT HELPING OUR CAUSE, AND WE > HAVE PRECIOUS LITTLE EXTRA ENERGY.> > End of story.> > Lynda> > At 03:41 PM 6/16/2004, you wrote:> >Lynda,> >No they are not all contraversial and the fact of the matter is that> >had you just shown support for LM and not made such a big deal out of> >supporting the Dr rather than the patient, there would be no issue> >here period. NO ONE EVER SAID YOUR FAVORITE DR WAS A BUTCHER or that> >she was not a good surgeon. LM

was simply relating her experience> >with her. That is what this site is for.> >She never once said she was not a good surgeon, she simply told us> >that she did not have a good experience there. If others want to post> >their experience good or bad, with any Dr they may do so here,> >however, due to threats of lawsuits anything relating to Dr Kolb is> >very dangerous water for us to tread into. It is not a problem to> >mention any other Dr as none of them have threatened to sue anyone> >here.> >However, just because one person has a bad or good experience does> >not mean everyone will. It is that person who had a bad experiences> >right to share it.> >If you have a bad experience with a Dr Lynda your more than welcome> >to share it. However, if it is a second hand story, it really is not> >right to speak for others. If one has a

complaint then one should be> >willing to speak for themselves.> >I think enough time and energy has been completely wasted on this> >issue and I am sorry that it had to be once again brought up.> >this site is really about healing, about getting well and not so much> >about pitching Dr's. We do make recomendations all the time, mostly I> >have taken these off the site, but I will continue to recomend my Dr> >as I am speaking of MY experience with her, and not in a second hand> >way, I am not speaking from someone else's point of view but my own.> >Unfortunately again, because of threats we are really unable to> >discuss much about one Dr.> >that is the way it is.> >can we move on now please?> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >In

, Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:> > > Totally agree, since they are all controversial.> > >> > > Lynda> > >> > >> > > At 02:40 PM 6/16/2004, you wrote:> > > >--- In , ~*Patty*~ <faussettdp@y...>> >wrote:> > > > > The recommendations for the doctors that have been> > > > > controversial on our group should be made privately by> > > > > all members.> > > > > I believe I have pointed out who those were in my> > > > > previous post.> > > > > Patty> > > >> > > >Is this a new rule? If so, it's a very unfair rule. Who decides> > > >which doctors fall into the "controversial" group?> > > >> > > >This is past the

point of obsurd!> > > >> > > >Jade> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >

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Hate to say it but you could have been the bigger person here and let it go without this last post. Everyone should just drop it.naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote: Fine Lynda no matter how many times I try to end this you have to have the last word don't you. Go ahead and say something after me one more time, that way yours will be the last word. There is no way to end this unless it is you who ends it is there?I am doneIn , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:> I can see that you just want to keep this going, so I will say it again.> > Huang is an excellent surgeon, operated on my daughter, and I have > had thousands of women I referred to her without one negative > complaint. Everyone can have a bad day, and some things can be misinterpreted.> > Everyone is entitled to his/her experience, but that does not make this > doctor controversial. I could tell you some

hair-raising stories about > other doctors, including Dr. Feng. I won't, as it would not help our cause.> > I have no problem with someone sharing their experience, but when they have > to bring up something negative every time I recommend someone, that is not > just sharing an experience.> > Can we just quit with the doctors not. IT IS NOT HELPING OUR CAUSE, AND WE > HAVE PRECIOUS LITTLE EXTRA ENERGY.> > End of story.> > Lynda> > At 03:41 PM 6/16/2004, you wrote:> >Lynda,> >No they are not all contraversial and the fact of the matter is that> >had you just shown support for LM and not made such a big deal out of> >supporting the Dr rather than the patient, there would be no issue> >here period. NO ONE EVER SAID YOUR FAVORITE DR WAS A BUTCHER or that> >she was not a good surgeon. LM

was simply relating her experience> >with her. That is what this site is for.> >She never once said she was not a good surgeon, she simply told us> >that she did not have a good experience there. If others want to post> >their experience good or bad, with any Dr they may do so here,> >however, due to threats of lawsuits anything relating to Dr Kolb is> >very dangerous water for us to tread into. It is not a problem to> >mention any other Dr as none of them have threatened to sue anyone> >here.> >However, just because one person has a bad or good experience does> >not mean everyone will. It is that person who had a bad experiences> >right to share it.> >If you have a bad experience with a Dr Lynda your more than welcome> >to share it. However, if it is a second hand story, it really is not> >right to speak for others. If one has a

complaint then one should be> >willing to speak for themselves.> >I think enough time and energy has been completely wasted on this> >issue and I am sorry that it had to be once again brought up.> >this site is really about healing, about getting well and not so much> >about pitching Dr's. We do make recomendations all the time, mostly I> >have taken these off the site, but I will continue to recomend my Dr> >as I am speaking of MY experience with her, and not in a second hand> >way, I am not speaking from someone else's point of view but my own.> >Unfortunately again, because of threats we are really unable to> >discuss much about one Dr.> >that is the way it is.> >can we move on now please?> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >In

, Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:> > > Totally agree, since they are all controversial.> > >> > > Lynda> > >> > >> > > At 02:40 PM 6/16/2004, you wrote:> > > >--- In , ~*Patty*~ <faussettdp@y...>> >wrote:> > > > > The recommendations for the doctors that have been> > > > > controversial on our group should be made privately by> > > > > all members.> > > > > I believe I have pointed out who those were in my> > > > > previous post.> > > > > Patty> > > >> > > >Is this a new rule? If so, it's a very unfair rule. Who decides> > > >which doctors fall into the "controversial" group?> > > >> > > >This is past the

point of obsurd!> > > >> > > >Jade> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >

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, You're a class act, truly!!!!

Vickie JOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@...> wrote:

I would hope that to be the case. And I didn’t say only . But I happened to be here for a long time and watch her, and others (you should remember) argue every point ever made by Dr Kolb in her last months here. And myself when it pertained to her. I don’t care how it started. Really. Or what she told you, I am going by what she has said, what has been argued with me into the ground, what she has said to Dr Kolb herself, and what I have read.. All the posts are all here.

And it doesn’t stop with Dr K. Now , and for a while its been Huang. So now, Huang cant be spoken about. I mean look at the big picture here.

It's Nothing new.

I'm not "blaming" for anything, but merely responding to her posts written by her. God, please don’t go there, with now she is the victim in all this.

I think this would be a great rule and would stop all the fighting! Only a patient with a bad experience with their PS, like yourself, has the right to speak on about negative experinces. Not others. Support can be given, but no bashing! To go on about it with your added opinion, like Haung is on a breast implant site,( wrong, I agree) or no -Dr Kolb puts them in, (they all do, hello!) is absurd. That way, no one would get hurt in this. We could share good and bad, and be free to do so. With no arguments. Ill tell you, if someone came forward with their bad story about Dr Kolb, I would support her, and not say one word otherwise. How sad not to have a good outcome. I don’t care by what PS, it is sad, and she needs support. Period. Who am I to say, my PS could never do a bad job? Shes only human, and can only do so much. Only that patient, went through that epxerience, not me. Who am I to say?

But on the flip side, when it comes to Dr Feng- wait a minute, there was a bad explant spoken about here about month ago- by one of her patients, and recommending her on this site didn’t come to a screeching halt. And, it was so hard to hear, it was even argued with the patient herself. That she handled it wrong, and needed to go back to Dr Feng to ask her to fix it. Surely, Dr Feng didn’t make a mistake! Heavens no! Please-they all make mistakes. perhaps some patients will never look like they want, and PS's arent perfect. I sure the hell am glad I didn’t go into the profession, let me tell you.

Re: My Experience with Dr. Huang >Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:33:45 -0000 > >Jade it is not obsurd and you don't happen to understand that Patty >was threatened with a lawsuit by one Dr if she ever mentioned her >name again, so you need to be careful when saying something is absurd >that you don't know anything about. We need to be careful because >these Dr's don't necesarily care about us. This group is for support >and for the women who need it to feel safe and not to feel they >cannot talk about their implant and explant experience good or bad. >However, when certain individuals continue to start arguments and >continue to put a Dr over individuals who have had bad experiences

>with these Dr's then it is important that it be taken off the group, >for the safety and sanctitiy of the group as a whole. We are here to >support members, not necesarily Dr's. >Besides no one told you that you could not talk about your Dr. >Please try to understand having been here a short time that many many >things have gone down on this site regarding this subject and Patty >has reasons for asking people to keep this stuff of the site. > > > > > > > > > >In , "jadebreaks" <jadebreaks@u...> >wrote: > > --- In , ~*Patty*~ <faussettdp@y...> >wrote: > > > The recommendations for the doctors that have been > > > controversial on our group should be made privately by > > > all members. > > > I believe I have pointed out who those were in my > > > previous post. > > > Patty > > > >

Is this a new rule? If so, it's a very unfair rule. Who decides > > which doctors fall into the "controversial" group? > > > > This is past the point of obsurd! > > > > Jade > > > >

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Yes Vickie your absolutely 100% right, I should have dropped it. I

was a little hormonal and let it get the best of me.

C

In , Vickie <gracie17db@y...>

wrote:

> Hate to say it but you could have been the bigger person

here and let it go without this last post. Everyone should just drop

it.

>

> naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:Fine Lynda no matter

how many times I try to end this you have to

> have the last word don't you. Go ahead and say something after me

one

> more time, that way yours will be the last word.

> There is no way to end this unless it is you who ends it is there?

> I am done

>

>

>

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> In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> > I can see that you just want to keep this going, so I will say it

> again.

> >

> > Huang is an excellent surgeon, operated on my daughter, and

I

> have

> > had thousands of women I referred to her without one negative

> > complaint. Everyone can have a bad day, and some things can be

> misinterpreted.

> >

> > Everyone is entitled to his/her experience, but that does not

make

> this

> > doctor controversial. I could tell you some hair-raising stories

> about

> > other doctors, including Dr. Feng. I won't, as it would not help

> our cause.

> >

> > I have no problem with someone sharing their experience, but when

> they have

> > to bring up something negative every time I recommend someone,

that

> is not

> > just sharing an experience.

> >

> > Can we just quit with the doctors not. IT IS NOT HELPING OUR

> CAUSE, AND WE

> > HAVE PRECIOUS LITTLE EXTRA ENERGY.

> >

> > End of story.

> >

> > Lynda

> >

> > At 03:41 PM 6/16/2004, you wrote:

> > >Lynda,

> > >No they are not all contraversial and the fact of the matter is

> that

> > >had you just shown support for LM and not made such a big deal

out

> of

> > >supporting the Dr rather than the patient, there would be no

issue

> > >here period. NO ONE EVER SAID YOUR FAVORITE DR WAS A BUTCHER or

> that

> > >she was not a good surgeon. LM was simply relating her experience

> > >with her. That is what this site is for.

> > >She never once said she was not a good surgeon, she simply told

us

> > >that she did not have a good experience there. If others want to

> post

> > >their experience good or bad, with any Dr they may do so here,

> > >however, due to threats of lawsuits anything relating to Dr Kolb

is

> > >very dangerous water for us to tread into. It is not a problem to

> > >mention any other Dr as none of them have threatened to sue

anyone

> > >here.

> > >However, just because one person has a bad or good experience

does

> > >not mean everyone will. It is that person who had a bad

experiences

> > >right to share it.

> > >If you have a bad experience with a Dr Lynda your more than

welcome

> > >to share it. However, if it is a second hand story, it really is

> not

> > >right to speak for others. If one has a complaint then one

should

> be

> > >willing to speak for themselves.

> > >I think enough time and energy has been completely wasted on this

> > >issue and I am sorry that it had to be once again brought up.

> > >this site is really about healing, about getting well and not so

> much

> > >about pitching Dr's. We do make recomendations all the time,

> mostly I

> > >have taken these off the site, but I will continue to recomend

my

> Dr

> > >as I am speaking of MY experience with her, and not in a second

> hand

> > >way, I am not speaking from someone else's point of view but my

> own.

> > >Unfortunately again, because of threats we are really unable to

> > >discuss much about one Dr.

> > >that is the way it is.

> > >can we move on now please?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> > > > Totally agree, since they are all controversial.

> > > >

> > > > Lynda

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > At 02:40 PM 6/16/2004, you wrote:

> > > > >--- In , ~*Patty*~

> <faussettdp@y...>

> > >wrote:

> > > > > > The recommendations for the doctors that have been

> > > > > > controversial on our group should be made privately by

> > > > > > all members.

> > > > > > I believe I have pointed out who those were in my

> > > > > > previous post.

> > > > > > Patty

> > > > >

> > > > >Is this a new rule? If so, it's a very unfair rule. Who

> decides

> > > > >which doctors fall into the " controversial " group?

> > > > >

> > > > >This is past the point of obsurd!

> > > > >

> > > > >Jade

> > > > >

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