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Barb,

We are taking exac same SSRI as you, and feel same way about it. I

ask Dr. G if we can reduce it last week, and have not receive a

respose. The difference is that is doing better on Prozac than

any other SSRI. However, I do not feel any benefit when it is

increased. I understand why we have to taking certain doseage on

antifungal and etc, but not understand why we have to go to max on

SSRI too. Can smaller dose regulate blood flow too?

Talk to your school district special ed director to get everything

set up before you send him to public school. I prefer go to public

school because children has to get into that environment soon or

later. It is better when they young and you have time to help him get

used to it. You do not have to throw him into it. Look into which

school has better special ed program, Talk to the special ED

director, and have him do a evaluation, and provide needed help. If

you started now it will be much easier to adjust when new school year

comes along.

I assume public school teacher are more aware children with special

needs, they usually will modified the homework requirement if you ask.

But be careful not to over stree how smart your child is. You need to

tell them not to lower their standards, but stress you need help from

school to help him overcome his difficulties, and teach him how to do

it himself too. Let them know your child is good with school

acadamics. So everybody knows that if the child is not doing well in

school, then they need to modified their approach. Keep a tap on

everything, especially schoolworks, so you have a sense where he is.

Do not worry, everybody go through this, you are not alone. We are

doing better last and this year because all those work we have put in

the previous years. With so may more cases of add, autisam, and so

many law suit, now it is much easier to get service in public school.

I even met a ad from a small public school in Walkegan last year. She

told me to ask for ad, if her school district can have one, a school

district like mine can provide one too.

One trick is ask to place your son in a classroom that already has a

ad for a special ed student, so the ad can redirect your son when he

is districted, while also serve the others.

I have something have to take care of tomorrow I have to prepare

today, you can email me private if you prefer. I can spend more time

after tomorrow afternoon.

Jin

> I am having a lot of problems with middle school and I

> was wondering if anyone had any advice or experience

> to share. My youngest and less nids effected son (11)

> is very bright, but is displaying many add-type

> characteristics in the private school in which we have

> enrolled him. The public ms alternative I felt, was

> too rough, and he is such a sweet kid. I just didn't

> want him to be exposed to that influence. Also, the

> classes are so large. He is now in a program where

> there are only 9 kids, but it is very challenging, and

> there is a lot of homework, at least it seems like too

> much for him. The teachers are having issues with his

> distractability and not getting all of the hw done.

> Dr. G is working with us to get his meds in a better

> place. He is presently on Effexor and Prozac. I

> really feel like the Prozac is not agreeing with him.

> It's been 1 1/2 years on ssri's, and I really don't

> feel that any of them really have helped him, other

> than improving his emotionality. I would like to take

> him off of them, but I'm sure Dr. G would like to try

> them longer. Did any of you have that experience?

> Did you remove them, and did you see improvement or

> deterioriation? I always had a feeling that middle

> school would be a problem for him. Maybe I made a

> mistake putting him in this private school. I'm

> inclined to homeschool him now if we pull him from the

> private. He's been assigned to a pretty far off ms vs

> the one close to our house, and I just don't want to

> send him there. Any suggestions? Comments? Thanks. Barb

>

> =====

> Barb Katsaros

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Middle school is a really tough time for a lot of kids, even typical ones,

since so much more is expected of them and so many schools are piling on more

homework these days. Then when you throw trials of medicines in the mix, I

imagine it makes it extra hard especially since once a kid starts having

difficulty, there is a tendency for teachers and kids to lower their

expectations or

possibly get more irritated by things they'd typically let slide. Hopefully

you'll find a good mix for him soon.

In the meantime, whenever there is difficulty in school, I suggest stepping

back and analyzing exactly what is going on. Sometimes bringing in a very

observant professional who is open-minded can help pinpoint what exactly is

causing the problems. For example, the " distractability " the teachers mentioned

--

when is this occuring? in all of his classes or just in particular subjects or

classes/with particular teachers? Getting a better idea of when and where it

is occuring can sometimes help you find a cause.

How is he doing in each of his subject areas? How are his higher order

thinking skills? Sometimes a really bright kid can seem like he's able to do

work

at a certain level but in a classroom environment, he may not be able to " get "

all the subtlties of a lesson, make inferences or draw conclusions like other

kids. This often can lead a kid to shut down, daydream or act out. This

tends to get worse in middle school since more of these skills are indirectly

required.

What is the classroom environment like -- is it really busy, perhaps noises

that distract him, lights, cleaners or perfumes he may be reacting to?

As for homework, are there certain subjects or assignments he isn't able to

complete as well as others? This may give you a clue to what's going on in the

classroom as well. Is it possible to work with his teachers to give him more

time or reduce it a bit, given his special needs? I know a lot of ADHD kids

who are extremely intelligent but get really bogged down with homework or

really rebell because they see it is busywork since they learn things so

quickly.

One option that might help with homework is contacting a local high school to

see if you can find a key club member or other kid wanting service hours who

would be willing to volunteer time in working with him as a homework buddy.

This person could try to help him stay focused on his work and help with

problem areas.

Gaylen

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Thanks, Jin. We may have to go back to the public

schools, but the one we have to go to is quite rough.

I have heard that Dr. g will maintain a lower level on

an ssri, if the higher one does not bring the wanted

response. But I think he gives it a couple of weeks,

to see how it is when it gets into the system fully.

We had poor results from Prozac. Dr. G changed him

back to Zoloft today, which I am glad for. I hope we

see positive changes. He doesn't seem to do that well

on any of them, but Zoloft and Paxil have been the

best. I wish we could eliminate all of them! Barb

--- jinyang061629 <yanglou@...> wrote:

> Barb,

>

> We are taking exac same SSRI as you, and feel same

> way about it. I

> ask Dr. G if we can reduce it last week, and have

> not receive a

> respose. The difference is that is doing better

> on Prozac than

> any other SSRI. However, I do not feel any benefit

> when it is

> increased. I understand why we have to taking

> certain doseage on

> antifungal and etc, but not understand why we have

> to go to max on

> SSRI too. Can smaller dose regulate blood flow too?

>

>

> Talk to your school district special ed director to

> get everything

> set up before you send him to public school. I

> prefer go to public

> school because children has to get into that

> environment soon or

> later. It is better when they young and you have

> time to help him get

> used to it. You do not have to throw him into it.

> Look into which

> school has better special ed program, Talk to the

> special ED

> director, and have him do a evaluation, and provide

> needed help. If

> you started now it will be much easier to adjust

> when new school year

> comes along.

>

> I assume public school teacher are more aware

> children with special

> needs, they usually will modified the homework

> requirement if you ask.

>

> But be careful not to over stree how smart your

> child is. You need to

> tell them not to lower their standards, but stress

> you need help from

> school to help him overcome his difficulties, and

> teach him how to do

> it himself too. Let them know your child is good

> with school

> acadamics. So everybody knows that if the child is

> not doing well in

> school, then they need to modified their approach.

> Keep a tap on

> everything, especially schoolworks, so you have a

> sense where he is.

>

> Do not worry, everybody go through this, you are not

> alone. We are

> doing better last and this year because all those

> work we have put in

> the previous years. With so may more cases of add,

> autisam, and so

> many law suit, now it is much easier to get service

> in public school.

> I even met a ad from a small public school in

> Walkegan last year. She

> told me to ask for ad, if her school district can

> have one, a school

> district like mine can provide one too.

>

> One trick is ask to place your son in a classroom

> that already has a

> ad for a special ed student, so the ad can redirect

> your son when he

> is districted, while also serve the others.

>

> I have something have to take care of tomorrow I

> have to prepare

> today, you can email me private if you prefer. I can

> spend more time

> after tomorrow afternoon.

>

> Jin

>

>

>

>

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Barb:

My older less nids effected child had a horrible time in middle

school. We pulled him out last year and put him in a christian

school that told us they had alot of experience with add/adhd.

It was a disaster. They piled on tons of homework, the complained,

even though I reminded them numerous times he was ADD (easier to

explain then )

This year I put him in another private school that specialized in

helping kids with learning differences, especially add/adhd.

has no home work, they recognize that after 2:30 his attention is

not where it should be so why torture him with homework. Instead,

they gently prompt him throughout the day to complete all of his

work. Any work he does not get done in the 6 1/2 hrs he is in school

is completed the next day. He has gone from all c's and d's to all

A's, and the work is all on grade level.

You need to see if you have a school like this in your area. This

will help your son get through his academic needs and also make him

feel very sucessful about his abilities.

Here is my son's school website perhaps this can give you an idea of

what to look for. (If you want, maybe email our principal to find

out if she knows of a private school in your area that specialized

in add/adhd. Alot of times these administrators across the country

travel in the same circles, and know of resources in other states)

http://www.lighthouseprepacademy.com/

Good luck to you and your son..... :)

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Thanks so much. This sounds ideal. I will inquire,

but I know of no such school in our area. I think we

are going to have to either do all homeschooling or

part hs/part public school. This private school is

not for him, I'm afraid. He is willing to try it for

a longer time, but I don't think we will make it.

They have allowed us to drop French and delete some of

the hw, but they really don't understand him. It's

just a little too rigid. Barb

--- atlantickayaker <nancyballard@...> wrote:

> Barb:

>

> My older less nids effected child had a horrible

> time in middle

> school. We pulled him out last year and put him in a

> christian

> school that told us they had alot of experience with

> add/adhd.

>

> It was a disaster. They piled on tons of homework,

> the complained,

> even though I reminded them numerous times he was

> ADD (easier to

> explain then )

>

> This year I put him in another private school that

> specialized in

> helping kids with learning differences, especially

> add/adhd.

> has no home work, they recognize that after 2:30 his

> attention is

> not where it should be so why torture him with

> homework. Instead,

> they gently prompt him throughout the day to

> complete all of his

> work. Any work he does not get done in the 6 1/2 hrs

> he is in school

> is completed the next day. He has gone from all c's

> and d's to all

> A's, and the work is all on grade level.

>

> You need to see if you have a school like this in

> your area. This

> will help your son get through his academic needs

> and also make him

> feel very sucessful about his abilities.

>

> Here is my son's school website perhaps this can

> give you an idea of

> what to look for. (If you want, maybe email our

> principal to find

> out if she knows of a private school in your area

> that specialized

> in add/adhd. Alot of times these administrators

> across the country

> travel in the same circles, and know of resources in

> other states)

>

> http://www.lighthouseprepacademy.com/

>

> Good luck to you and your son..... :)

>

>

>

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Barb,

I know a mom is doing part of homeschooling and part of public

school for her very gifted daughter ( she does not have any baggage

of our children). The girl stays home part day, and goes to school

for language.

If you think you can do it then it is difinitly worth a try.

Good luck,

Jin

>

> > Barb:

> >

> > My older less nids effected child had a horrible

> > time in middle

> > school. We pulled him out last year and put him in a

> > christian

> > school that told us they had alot of experience with

> > add/adhd.

> >

> > It was a disaster. They piled on tons of homework,

> > the complained,

> > even though I reminded them numerous times he was

> > ADD (easier to

> > explain then )

> >

> > This year I put him in another private school that

> > specialized in

> > helping kids with learning differences, especially

> > add/adhd.

> > has no home work, they recognize that after 2:30 his

> > attention is

> > not where it should be so why torture him with

> > homework. Instead,

> > they gently prompt him throughout the day to

> > complete all of his

> > work. Any work he does not get done in the 6 1/2 hrs

> > he is in school

> > is completed the next day. He has gone from all c's

> > and d's to all

> > A's, and the work is all on grade level.

> >

> > You need to see if you have a school like this in

> > your area. This

> > will help your son get through his academic needs

> > and also make him

> > feel very sucessful about his abilities.

> >

> > Here is my son's school website perhaps this can

> > give you an idea of

> > what to look for. (If you want, maybe email our

> > principal to find

> > out if she knows of a private school in your area

> > that specialized

> > in add/adhd. Alot of times these administrators

> > across the country

> > travel in the same circles, and know of resources in

> > other states)

> >

> > http://www.lighthouseprepacademy.com/

> >

> > Good luck to you and your son..... :)

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> =====

> Barb Katsaros

> barbkatsaros@y...

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Thanks, Jin. I already do this with my older son, and

it works out well. This way, there is no wasted time

as there is so often in public school. I will just

have to see if the school permits it or not for my

younger son. Barb

--- jinyang061629 <yanglou@...> wrote:

> Barb,

>

> I know a mom is doing part of homeschooling and part

> of public

> school for her very gifted daughter ( she does not

> have any baggage

> of our children). The girl stays home part day, and

> goes to school

> for language.

>

> If you think you can do it then it is difinitly

> worth a try.

>

> Good luck,

>

> Jin

>

>

>

>

> >

> > > Barb:

> > >

> > > My older less nids effected child had a horrible

> > > time in middle

> > > school. We pulled him out last year and put him

> in a

> > > christian

> > > school that told us they had alot of experience

> with

> > > add/adhd.

> > >

> > > It was a disaster. They piled on tons of

> homework,

> > > the complained,

> > > even though I reminded them numerous times he

> was

> > > ADD (easier to

> > > explain then )

> > >

> > > This year I put him in another private school

> that

> > > specialized in

> > > helping kids with learning differences,

> especially

> > > add/adhd.

> > > has no home work, they recognize that after 2:30

> his

> > > attention is

> > > not where it should be so why torture him with

> > > homework. Instead,

> > > they gently prompt him throughout the day to

> > > complete all of his

> > > work. Any work he does not get done in the 6 1/2

> hrs

> > > he is in school

> > > is completed the next day. He has gone from all

> c's

> > > and d's to all

> > > A's, and the work is all on grade level.

> > >

> > > You need to see if you have a school like this

> in

> > > your area. This

> > > will help your son get through his academic

> needs

> > > and also make him

> > > feel very sucessful about his abilities.

> > >

> > > Here is my son's school website perhaps this can

> > > give you an idea of

> > > what to look for. (If you want, maybe email our

> > > principal to find

> > > out if she knows of a private school in your

> area

> > > that specialized

> > > in add/adhd. Alot of times these administrators

> > > across the country

> > > travel in the same circles, and know of

> resources in

> > > other states)

> > >

> > > http://www.lighthouseprepacademy.com/

> > >

> > > Good luck to you and your son..... :)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > =====

> > Barb Katsaros

> > barbkatsaros@y...

>

>

>

=====

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  • 4 months later...

I have been reading some of the concerns of how the schools treat children we

CMT. I do want to add that there are schools out there that go above and beyond

helping. My son is in middle school, his guidance counselor as well as his

teacher where made aware of his CMT. They did not treat him differently but did

understand that he needed extra time to change for gym and to get from one class

to another. When he had knee surgery last year, they couldn't have been any

kinder, they sent a set of books home for him to keep to do homework. They had

other fellow students help him carry his books between classes, they even

carried his food tray for him. He has a great group of close friends who are

aware of his CMT, but they choose to treat him like he is just a regular guy. I

am a little sad that he will be leaving this school in June to go to the high

school in September, but I am keeping my hopes up that they too will be as kind.

(His current guidance counselor said they most certainly will, so we'll see.)

Good luck and know that not all schools are that bad.

Sincerely

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On Jun 8, 3:21am, debmetsfan@... wrote:

} was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome and ADHD. I have her=20=20

} classified under autism. Her psychiatrist said she would be eligible for =

} more=20

} services with the autism classification. Don't know if that's true or not=

I think that's one of those big " depends " issues. Where we are, Bam

only gets Regional Center services because he has an autism diagnosis -

an Aspergers Syndrome diagnosis would not have have been accepted and

definitely not ADHD. Other places seem to work differently.

Willa

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