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Welcome to the group. My son Jake was diagnosed at 3 1/2 months and we did the "wait and see" thing for about 8 months before we convinced our ortho to brace. He was slowly progressing, and I had to push for the brace. Now after our 3rd opinion we finally casted him in November; he was 15 months old at the time. My advice is to be aggressive in his treatment should he need it and should his condition warrant it. We wasted nearly 12 months of precious growing time before taking serious action. Arm yourself with knowledge to help you make the best decision for your son. Good luck and keep us posted.

mom to and Jakebasketsnboyds <basketsnboyds@...> wrote:

My son Evan is 16 weeks old and we had noticed a curve in his back-his first visit to a Ped. Orthopedic specialist was yesterday. They told us that he has infantile scoliosis-but didn't tell us the degree of the curve. Since he is so young, they said that they would monitor him closely and that they would do a re-eval in 3 mos (March 1st) and if it had gotten worse, they would consider a cast or brace but if it didn't get any worse, they would prob. just let it go. He also has torticollis and is having PT for that. I was just wondering if anyone was in my same situation- we could use someone else's stories or advice to help us out. My dd Gracie is 2 1/2 and we have been blessed to not have any medical problems w/her up to this point. Thanks in advance!

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Did you see another specialist for a 2nd opinion? I do want x-rays re-done at the follow-up appointment to make sure it hasn't progressed. Thanks so much for the advice. Viveiros <jviv314@...> wrote: , Welcome to the group. My son Jake was diagnosed at 3 1/2 months and we did the "wait and see" thing for about 8 months before we convinced our ortho to brace. He was slowly progressing, and I had to push for the brace. Now after our 3rd opinion we finally casted him in November; he was 15 months old at the time. My advice is to be aggressive in his treatment should he need it and should his condition warrant it. We wasted nearly 12 months of precious growing time before taking serious action. Arm yourself with knowledge

to help you make the best decision for your son. Good luck and keep us posted. mom to and Jakebasketsnboyds <basketsnboyds@...> wrote: My son Evan is 16 weeks old and we had noticed a curve in his back-his first visit to a Ped. Orthopedic specialist was yesterday. They told us that he has infantile scoliosis-but didn't tell us the degree of the curve. Since he is so young, they said that they would monitor him closely and that they would do a re-eval in 3 mos (March 1st) and if it had gotten worse, they would consider a cast or brace but if it didn't get any worse, they would prob. just let it go. He also has torticollis and is having PT for that. I was just wondering if anyone was in my same situation- we could use someone else's stories or advice

to help us out. My dd Gracie is 2 1/2 and we have been blessed to not have any medical problems w/her up to this point. Thanks in advance!

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My 1st opinion was from our local ortho. Our 2nd opinion was another ortho in Boston, MA who specializes in spinal deformities. Our 3rd opinion at Erie Shriners was with a doc who does specialize in infantile scoliosis. He is the only guy who we saw (and are seeing) that did specialize in this field.

They should x-ray Evan again at the next visit. Good luck and keep us posted.

mom to and Jake <basketsnboyds@...> wrote:

Did you see another specialist for a 2nd opinion?

I do want x-rays re-done at the follow-up appointment to make sure it hasn't progressed. Thanks so much for the advice.

Viveiros <jviv314@...> wrote:

,

Welcome to the group. My son Jake was diagnosed at 3 1/2 months and we did the "wait and see" thing for about 8 months before we convinced our ortho to brace. He was slowly progressing, and I had to push for the brace. Now after our 3rd opinion we finally casted him in November; he was 15 months old at the time. My advice is to be aggressive in his treatment should he need it and should his condition warrant it. We wasted nearly 12 months of precious growing time before taking serious action. Arm yourself with knowledge to help you make the best decision for your son. Good luck and keep us posted.

mom to and Jakebasketsnboyds <basketsnboyds@...> wrote:

My son Evan is 16 weeks old and we had noticed a curve in his back-his first visit to a Ped. Orthopedic specialist was yesterday. They told us that he has infantile scoliosis-but didn't tell us the degree of the curve. Since he is so young, they said that they would monitor him closely and that they would do a re-eval in 3 mos (March 1st) and if it had gotten worse, they would consider a cast or brace but if it didn't get any worse, they would prob. just let it go. He also has torticollis and is having PT for that. I was just wondering if anyone was in my same situation- we could use someone else's stories or advice to help us out. My dd Gracie is 2 1/2 and we have been blessed to not have any medical problems w/her up to this point. Thanks in advance!

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>

> Hello Natural Perfumers!

>

> My name is Mark and I am very happy and excited to become a

member of the group. I look forward to learning a lot about natural

perfumery from all of you and hope that I will be able to share my

knowledge and experience with you, too.

> I studied egyptology at the University of Chicago's Oriental

Institute for 5 years.

Hi and welcome, you could have saved yourself five years of

college cost had you joined the group ealier.

You*re probably the right person to answer this question:

Is it the Grains of Paradise (Aframomum melegueta) that give the

ancient Egyptian mommies that peculiar smell I notice everytime I*m

visiting a major museum? Thanks!

n

[Guest guest]

>

> --- In , " ankhefenpaaten "

>

> (Moderator here -- snipped topposted stuff, n ;-)

>

> > What major museums have you visited that are displaying mummies

in

> > the open air instead of a climate controlled case where they

should

> > properly be? I don't know what you're smelling, but doubt that

it

> > would be Afromomum melegueta since that is native to tropical

Africa

> > (like Ghana) and probably would not have been accessible to the

> > ancient Egyptians.

>

> Hi,I should have said the showrooms where (mommies and sarcophagus)

> are kept have the same smell from one museum to another. My

> understanding was that ancient Egypt had all the spices of the

world

> available. Maybe Ghana was not on the silk route?

> n

>

> >

>

n:

Ancient Egyptians did obtain botanicals from far-away places. In

fact, we are starting to become aware of just how much more trade

was going on between the ancient Middle Eastern civilizations than

previously thought. For example, nutmeg has been found in an

Egyptian tomb, and it is native to the Moluccas, Indonesia! Ancient

Egypt imported luxury items from many places such as Turkey,

Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Ethiopia, Arabia, India, etc.

However, to my knowledge, there is no archaeological evidence of

imports from the area of Africa to which grains of paradise is

native, such as Ghana.

[Guest guest]

>

> --- In , " ankhefenpaaten "

>

> (Moderator here -- snipped topposted stuff, n ;-)

>

> > What major museums have you visited that are displaying mummies

in

> > the open air instead of a climate controlled case where they

should

> > properly be? I don't know what you're smelling, but doubt that

it

> > would be Afromomum melegueta since that is native to tropical

Africa

> > (like Ghana) and probably would not have been accessible to the

> > ancient Egyptians.

>

> Hi,I should have said the showrooms where (mommies and sarcophagus)

> are kept have the same smell from one museum to another. My

> understanding was that ancient Egypt had all the spices of the

world

> available. Maybe Ghana was not on the silk route?

> n

>

> >

>

n:

Ancient Egyptians did obtain botanicals from far-away places. In

fact, we are starting to become aware of just how much more trade

was going on between the ancient Middle Eastern civilizations than

previously thought. For example, nutmeg has been found in an

Egyptian tomb, and it is native to the Moluccas, Indonesia! Ancient

Egypt imported luxury items from many places such as Turkey,

Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Ethiopia, Arabia, India, etc.

However, to my knowledge, there is no archaeological evidence of

imports from the area of Africa to which grains of paradise is

native, such as Ghana.

[Guest guest]

> wrote:

> >> First of all, Egyptian perfumery was just one area of research I did

> at the Oriental Institute - the others being the Amarna period and

> ancient Egyptian astronomy. The cost was well worth it.

>

> What major museums have you visited that are displaying mummies in

> the open air instead of a climate controlled case where they should

> properly be? I don't know what you're smelling, but doubt that it

> would be Afromomum melegueta since that is native to tropical Africa

> (like Ghana) and probably would not have been accessible to the

> ancient Egyptians.

*******************

I haven't visited Egypt since 1995, but the mummies weren't in climate

controlled cases when I was there.

The cairo museum wasn't climate controlled either. There were various

mummies elsewhere along the routes, including crocodiles.

I do remember being so amazed that things were so relaxed and " touchable " .

Compared at least to this country.

Patti

Who certainly hopes to return to Egypt someday.

[Guest guest]

On Dec 12, 2005, at 7:00 PM, Patti Grinds wrote:

edited a bit for brevity ;0

>

> I haven't visited Egypt since 1995, but the mummies weren't in climate

> controlled cases when I was there.

> The cairo museum wasn't climate controlled either. There were various

> mummies elsewhere along the routes, including crocodiles.

> I do remember being so amazed that things were so relaxed and

> " touchable " .

> Compared at least to this country.

> Patti

> Who certainly hopes to return to Egypt someday.

I had the same experience. We actually were able to touch some of

the statues. The museum even had artifacts just piled on top of one

another in the back corner, quite amazing. I do think the mummies

were climate controlled though. Great fun shopping for perfumes and

other such smelly things.

MJ

[Guest guest]

At 10:33 PM 12/12/2005, you wrote:

>On Dec 12, 2005, at 7:00 PM, Patti Grinds wrote:

>

> > I do remember being so amazed that things were so relaxed and

> > " touchable " .

> > Compared at least to this country.

> > Patti

> > Who certainly hopes to return to Egypt someday.

>

> I had the same experience. We actually were able to touch some of

>the statues. The museum even had artifacts just piled on top of one

>another in the back corner, quite amazing. I do think the mummies

>were climate controlled though. Great fun shopping for perfumes and

>other such smelly things.

>MJ

I can top this with a US story. 1955, University of Pennsylvania museum.

Mummy room. Wild five-year-old child who knows no bounds touches mummies.

They were on raised supports, barely one foot off the floor. Faces, hands,

wrappings. Fascinated by buck teeth of one mummy. Touched. Went on my own

tour, as usual, apart from adults, wandered into back storage rooms, etc.

Don't remember touching the not-previously living stuff, but did that in

later years at The Art Museum -- always made it a mission to find the

oldest artifact I could there, and, yes, touch it.

I dont' remember a smell of any sort there, and I was already a

sniffaholic. Things just smelled - old.

Anya

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I know its frustrating and you are doing a great job advocationg for your

daughter, shes lucky to have such a caring mom !!

THe sores my daughter gets have a white ring around them and red or yellow

center, she gets them on her lips, inside of cheeks and under her tounge and

eshophogus. BUT my daughter soes not always have the fevers, she'll get all the

other symptoms of but only like every three times does she get a fever

with it.-- ALL kids are diffrent, Keep looking for a DR that will listen

I keep a journal and take photos of each episode, that seems to help too

Good luck

Shumate <shumate_jess@...> wrote:

Hi, my name is . I'm a 25 year old single mom of 2. My son is 11

months and my daughter is 4 years. My daughter, Maddi Mae has been a healthy,

average little girl. In June she began running fevers up to 104.5 with

Motrin/Tylenol alternation. The Dr. would run the regular CBC's and Urine tests

and everything always came back fine. I would hear, " it's just a stomach bug. "

However, there was never dirreah, vomitting, no ear infection, no congestion, no

signs of illness of any type. After going through this for a week and the fever

finally subsiding I could rest. Before I know it, it's September and I'm

beginning to notice a pattern to all of this. I began wondering if it were

hormonal, called her Endocrinologist we saw nearly 3 years ago. She was even

referred upon my request to a Dr. at St. Louis Children's Hospital (we're in

southeast Missouri) at the Diagnostic Center. I explained everything to him,

and he blew me off. I haven't been able to get anyone to take me

serious. We've even seen our regular peditrician with every episode. I've seen

2 of our peditricians here, a Dr. at Children's, a Nurse Practioner here, an ER

Dr. here. The ER Dr. told me her throat was red, but she had no complaints.

The next day we went to see her ped. and it was not. One other time she did

have a red throat. Could this be the sores? Can they disappear that quickly

with no medicine other than Motrin/Tylenol? I found a Dr. here that will listen

to me, but his nurse is related by marriage to my ex-husband and I can't get

through to the Dr. I talked to him one time by catching him on call. She does

complain of joint pain occasionally, but not with the fevers necessarily. She

has a MAJOR light sensitivity a lot lately, not just with the fevers. This last

week, she had the fevers, but I was able to maintain them since they're so

predictible, and she drank well, kept the fever low and 2 times she went over 13

hours without urinating and one time went 26

hours without. Her urine tests, CBC's came back fine. They have done an upper

X-Ray to look for swollen glands. The Dr. that will listen said if he did every

test he wanted done she'd need a transfusion. I'm still waiting back for much

of the results. Urine culture was fine as well. The fever was last week. Is

there anything that shows up when the fevers are not present or do I have to

wait till another one comes back? She's being tested for Epstein Bar Virus,

Lime's Disease, Erlickia (sp?), and several other tick biting diseases. Her

Rhuematoid Factor was negative. I also want to know what else should be ruled

out? The nurse pulled up a site on this , but they are blowing me off.

From what I've read most of it, other than her not having sores fits to a T.

Another thing, when they asked me if she has sores in her mouth, I looked along

the gum area. I found a site last night that showed the sores more towards the

throat area. Is there anything I can or can't look

for to help rule out or in? I'm so glad I've found people that at least

know what it's like to deal with these fevers. The highest hers has been is

104.5, the longest it has lasted is 9 days, and they come back every 21 days and

12 hours from the start of the last one. Thanks so much!!!

Shumate

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>

> I can top this with a US story. 1955, University of Pennsylvania

museum.

> Mummy room. Wild five-year-old child who knows no bounds touches

mummies.

> I dont' remember a smell of any sort there, and I was already a

> sniffaholic. Things just smelled - old.

>

You know how some car dealers spray the interior of cars and even some

of the better used ones with the *new car scent*, maybe Euro museums

have some sort of *embalming scent* they clean and wax their artifacts

with ?? Something to market!

n

[Guest guest]

, My daughter has had symptoms of Pfapa for 21/2 years but

the sores in her mouth just started this year. We are lucky that we

found a rheumatologist that was willing to label and treat her for

Pfapa. In the beginning we were constantly told it was a viral

infection even though she was sick every 6-8 weeks. this syndrome

seems to have many different faces that show up in different

children. Be persistant in your questioning. The specialists only

took us seriously when I went in with a year at a glance calendar I

had evry day that she was sick circled. I also had charted symptoms

each month. This made it clear for them that she is sick in cycles.

Good luck

Kris (mom of age 5)

> Hi, my name is .  I'm a 25 year old single mom of 2.  My son

is

> 11months and my daughter is 4 years.  My daughter, Maddi Mae has

been

> a healthy, average little girl.  In June she began running fevers up

> to 104.5 with Motrin/Tylenol alternation.  The Dr. would run the

> regular CBC's and Urine tests and everything always came back

fine.  I

> would hear, " it's just a stomach bug. "   However, there was never

> dirreah, vomitting, no ear infection, no congestion, no signs of

> illness of any type.  After going through this for a week and the

> fever finally subsiding I could rest.  Before I know it, it's

> September and I'm beginning to notice a pattern to all of this.  I

> began wondering if it were hormonal, called her Endocrinologist we

saw

> nearly 3 years ago.  She was even referred upon my request to a Dr.

at

> St. Louis Children's Hospital (we're in southeast Missouri) at the

> Diagnostic Center.  I explained everything to him, and he blew me

> off.  I haven't been able to get anyone to take me serious.  We've

> even seen our regular peditrician with every episode.  I've seen 2

of

> our peditricians here, a Dr. at Children's, a Nurse Practioner here,

> an ER Dr. here.  The ER Dr. told me her throat was red, but she had

no

> complaints.  The next day we went to see her ped. and it was not. 

One

> other time she did have a red throat.  Could this be the sores?  Can

> they disappear that quickly with no medicine other than

> Motrin/Tylenol?  I found a Dr. here that will listen to me, but his

> nurse is related by marriage to my ex-husband and I can't get

through

> to the Dr.  I talked to him one time by catching him on call.  She

> does complain of joint pain occasionally, but not with the fevers

> necessarily.  She has a MAJOR light sensitivity a lot lately, not

just

> with the fevers.  This last week, she had the fevers, but I was able

> to maintain them since they're so predictible, and she drank well,

> kept the fever low and 2 times she went over 13 hours without

> urinating and one time went 26 hours without.  Her urine tests,

CBC's

> came back fine.  They have done an upper X-Ray to look for swollen

> glands.  The Dr. that will listen said if he did every test he

wanted

> done she'd need a transfusion.  I'm still waiting back for much of

the

> results.  Urine culture was fine as well.  The fever was last week. 

> Is there anything that shows up when the fevers are not present or

do

> I have to wait till another one comes back?  She's being tested for

> Epstein Bar Virus, Lime's Disease, Erlickia (sp?), and several other

> tick biting diseases.  Her Rhuematoid Factor was negative.  I also

> want to know what else should be ruled out?  The nurse pulled up a

> site on this , but they are blowing me off.  From what I've

read

> most of it, other than her not having sores fits to a T.  Another

> thing, when they asked me if she has sores in her mouth, I looked

> along the gum area.  I found a site last night that showed the sores

> more towards the throat area.  Is there anything I can or can't look

> for to help rule out or in?  I'm so glad I've found people

that

> at least know what it's like to deal with these fevers.  The highest

> hers has been is 104.5, the longest it has lasted is 9 days, and

they

> come back every 21 days and 12 hours from the start of the last

one. 

> Thanks so much!!!

>

> Shumate

>

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[Guest guest]

At 10:35 AM 12/12/2005, you wrote:

>My name is Mark and I am very happy and excited to become a member

>of the group. I look forward to learning a lot about natural perfumery

>from all of you and hope that I will be able to share my knowledge and

>experience with you, too.

Hi :

Late welcome -- I've been a bit overworked, lol.

>My background in natural perfumery is, perhaps, a little different than

>others. I am an herb and fragrant / heirloom flower grower for more than

>30 years. Over this time I've grown maybe more than 100 different

>fragrance and culinary herbs (I love to cook, too) including many exotic

>species. I also grow many heirloom fragrant flowers such as old roses,

>and tropicals such as bitter orange trees and jasmines. This experience

>has helped me greatly as a natural perfumer because I get to smell the

> " real thing " .

Sounds like me, you should see my page http://anyamccoy.com/plants.htm

>I am a maker of authentic, all-natural and highest-quality potpourris. I

>made my first potpourris in the early 1970's. Since then I have

>researched the subject, concentrating on original recipes from the 17th

>and 18th centuries.

I made some award-winning potpourris for a flower show in 1977, and they

got stolen on the last day of the show! I also sold potpourris when I

started my perfume business on South Beach in the early 90's.

>Although I have been mixing up liquid perfumes for the potpourris for 4

>years, I still consider myself a beginner and know that I have a lot to

>learn. I believe this group could help me improve my perfuming skills and

>would be so grateful for any and all assistance that you could give me.

The archives, , the archives. There's a world of learning in our old

message base.

Nice to see you here -- have fun!

A note to our new members -- many of you wrote me privately about your very

relevant, interesting backgrounds. Please introduce yourselves to the

group, it helps build the community.

Anya

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At 08:36 AM 12/13/2005, you wrote:

>I can top this with a US story. 1955, University of Pennsylvania museum.

>Mummy room. Wild five-year-old child who knows no bounds touches mummies.

Forgot to mention -- King Tut Exhibit is coming to town on the 15th. I

suppose if I try that now, you'll be reading about me in the headlines,

tackled and thrown to the ground before handcuffing. I'll behave myself.

Anya

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[Guest guest]

Hey there Christie! I'm actually considering going to nursing

school. How do you like it? How does your schedule work with kids

at home??

Lizzie

>

> Hi ladies! I'm Christie 28yrs old, and I'm new to BFL. I did the

Ab's diet before and loved it, it's similar to BFL. I thought the

foods and plan were really easy to stick to. The hardest thing for

me is all the cooking and making the food ahead of time. I have a

really busy schedule and two little ones, so prepackaged and quick

foods are my right hand lately. But I'm ready to put in the work

and get moving! About a year and a half ago I went from 170lbs to

114lbs (I'm 5'1 " ), but moving out of state and starting nursing

school caused me to put diet and exercise on the back burner. I'm

back up to 134lbs now : ( ,but I'm ready to get back in the game

and get back down to 115lbs. I have a feeling I'm going to need

some support from you all at times, and I'll be here to share

recipes and support also. Nice to meet you all!

>

> Christie

>

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new

member

just want to say hello i really don't know how or what to say

what i

want to. just found out today my

grandaughter was diagnosed with

aspergers syndrome. she's five yo but i've had

a gut feeling since

she was about 5-6 months old . well just

wanted to say hi not really

much in the mood to chat tonight . maybe another day thanks for

listening anyways gail

*********Welcome to the group Gail. I too

am a Gail. I have a 13 year old son with Asperger’s, OCD and Tourettes.

He is a great kid and doing quite well. Giving lots of time and patience is key I think…My son love history, geography, Star Wars,

old Army Men games, cookbooks, bookstores, to name a few interest. He teaches

me all the time. Welcome, Gail A.

[Guest guest]

suthernsnail wrote:

> just want to say hello i really don't know how or what to say what i

> want to. just found out today my grandaughter was diagnosed with

> aspergers syndrome. she's five yo but i've had a gut feeling since

> she was about 5-6 months old . well just wanted to say hi not

> really much in the mood to chat tonight . maybe another day thanks

> for listening anyways gail

Welcome! I'm Annie in Albuquerque. We have a soon-to-be 26 year old

son with the High Functioning Autistic/Asperger's Syndrome diagnosis.

He's been in assisted living for almost 5 years, works 4 days a week for

pay, and has a wonderful life! Not to say he wasn't a challenge to

raise, but he's turned out really well. A delightful young man.

I'm almost 58, by the way, and my dh is almost 56. Louie has a big sis,

Kris, who is 37 day after tomorrow and lives in Seattle and is

adult-diagnosed ADD/bipolar.

Glad to know you!

Annie, who loves ya annie@...

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The cause of Peace has had my share of efforts, taking the ultra

non-resistance ground - that a Christian cannot consistently uphold, and

actively support, a government based on the sword, or whose ultimate

resort is to the destroying weapons. -- Lucretia Mott (1793-1880)

[Guest guest]

Hello Sue,

What was the Mandy Aftel course like? As many other people on here, I

would love to take it - is it worth the $375 she wants for it?

Thanks!

Boris

London,UK

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

I'm very new as well. Challenge 1 - Week 1 - Day 4

I have found this group the most active, most comprehensive, and most

friendly/helpful. Alot of positive energy here to help you through.

I wish you much luck!

[Guest guest]

Hi ! You bring up lots of good questions. I'm so sorry to hear about your

loss, but I think it's wonderful that you are taking on this challenge to become

healthy. I'm sure he would be proud of you. If you are still hungry, try eating

a little more at your meals. You might not be eating enough. Also, if the cardio

isn't great, don't try to " make up for it " . Just make your next cardio session

twice as intense. As for your free day, you can set it up how you want. I use

Saturday as my free day, but I still do light exercise on this day. A lot of

people take their eating free day one day and exercise free day on another day.

I wish you luck with your challenge. 5 pounds is awesome! A lot of women are

complaining at week 6 that they haven't lost that much! Keep up the great work!

<rachel@...> wrote: Hi! I just joined I began the 12 week

challenge on Monday 2/20 and

I feel great! (The scale is even down 5 lbs, must be water but it

still is exciting) Our oldest son died in June and I packed on 30 lbs

in about 2 months after that, the way I was eating I am surprised it

wasn't more. I have a couple of questions 1: I am not going to use

Sunday as my free day but Tuesday isn't b/c that is date night for DH

and me, should I exercise on Sunday and then take the day off exercise

on Tuesday? 2: Some days I am still hungry even though I have eaten

all my meals, should I just ignore the hunger or eat something small?

3: My cardio wasn't so great this morning should I just call it a loss

or try to make up for it with more cardio?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the club Racheal.

If you consistently have date night on Tuesday go ahead and make that

your free day, the actual day of the week doesn't matter. I would be

inclined to not do the work out on that day either, but I'm not sure

it makes a difference.

Barbara

[Guest guest]

Welcome ! I admire that you have gotten back on your feet after

such a loss. I currently don't do free day but on my first 3 challenges

I did my free eat day on a different day then my free exercise day. Just

worked out best. I don't make up cardio unless it is recreational

cardio. When I first started I'd be hungry by the end of the day. I'd

eat some veggies or fruit about your lowest calorie choices and try to

fill up on water.

Michele T.

On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:18:31 -0000 " " <rachel@...> writes:

> Hi! I just joined I began the 12 week challenge on Monday 2/20

> and

> I feel great! (The scale is even down 5 lbs, must be water but it

> still is exciting) Our oldest son died in June and I packed on 30

> lbs

> in about 2 months after that, the way I was eating I am surprised it

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> wasn't more. I have a couple of questions 1: I am not going to use

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> Sunday as my free day but Tuesday isn't b/c that is date night for

> DH

> and me, should I exercise on Sunday and then take the day off

> exercise

> on Tuesday? 2: Some days I am still hungry even though I have

> eaten

> all my meals, should I just ignore the hunger or eat something

> small?

> 3: My cardio wasn't so great this morning should I just call it a

> loss

> or try to make up for it with more cardio?

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> Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Barbara. My biggest problem right now is I want to work out more I

am used to 2 hour workouts (of course they weren't high intensity and they

didn't help) I am already looking forward to my workout on Monday

Re: New Member

Welcome to the club Racheal.

If you consistently have date night on Tuesday go ahead and make that

your free day, the actual day of the week doesn't matter. I would be

inclined to not do the work out on that day either, but I'm not sure

it makes a difference.

Barbara

[Guest guest]

Thanks Michele. I have tried upping my portions just a bit and will see if that

will help. I think I will keep my no exercise day on Sunday and just use

Tuesday for my free eating day

Re: New Member

Welcome ! I admire that you have gotten back on your feet after

such a loss. I currently don't do free day but on my first 3 challenges

I did my free eat day on a different day then my free exercise day. Just

worked out best. I don't make up cardio unless it is recreational

cardio. When I first started I'd be hungry by the end of the day. I'd

eat some veggies or fruit about your lowest calorie choices and try to

fill up on water.

Michele T.

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group. I love the term " happy fat. " That seems to

happen to a lot of married couples. Let us know how it's going and if

you have any questions.

On 3/8/06, Sarte Larck <pcb_chick@...> wrote:

> Hey everone. i am new to the group. i am newly married and we have

> three kids together & have gained happy fat i am trying to lose. my

> husband is a masterdiver for the navy and he works out daily. i would

> like to match his body. all the help would greatly be appreciated.