New Member

[Guest guest]

> > --- " P. Wren " <scimitar_saluki

> > <mailto:scimitar_saluki%40>> wrote:

> >

> > > Hello---

> > >

> > > I am a complete beginner and eager to learn all

> I

> > > can. I've had an interest in flowers, perfumes,

> and

> > > aromatics as long as I can remember (even before

> I

> > > understood what it was that I liked). I work

> full

> > > time in an office; live in far northern

> California

> > > in a semi-rural area and enjoy the outdoors with

> my

> > > horses and dogs, but also do jewelry and fiber

> arts

> > > such as spinning, knitting, and Temari.

Hi ,

Welcome!

I live in Northern California too - San Francisco -

and in addition to being a student of natural

perfumery am also a spinner and a weaver and a

silk-reeler. Temari? Cool!

Alfred

in San Francisco

[Guest guest]

Edited to trim....

> Hi !

> I am new to the board as well and have found so much info

> in the files that I have been reading and taking notes for days

> now. Where in N Cal do you live? My mother is in Burney CA, I

> an in Portland OR. What is Temari?

>

>

>

Hi --- and everyone else--

I'm about 60 miles from your mother, near Redding.

Temari is Japanese embroidered thread balls... aside from their

beauty they are an exercise in what I call " relational geometry " in

that there is no set measurement, but everything is fitted together

and made in relation to the other parts. Kind of hard to explain but

I think folks on here will understand it, sort of using a guideline

to make something beautiful, but with infinite variations. When I

teach Temari it's amazing what my students come up with,

combinations I would never have used, yet they are lovely. I think

natural perfumery must be very similar in that way.

I'll probably lurk for a while, absorbing and learning... and

eventually asking typical newbie questions.

Thanks everyone for a VERY interesting list.

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> Welcome!

>

> I live in Northern California too - San Francisco -

> and in addition to being a student of natural

> perfumery am also a spinner and a weaver and a

> silk-reeler. Temari? Cool!

>

>

> Alfred

> in San Francisco

>

Been doing Temari for years, taught myself from the Japanese books.

Hope to learn here faster and more easily though some of

the " language " is as challenging!

Silk reeler, eh? I never tried that, love silk though.

[Guest guest]

welcome to the group we understand what your going thru josie Skotland <shan62578@...> wrote: Hey everyone.I am a new member here. I am , 28. I have moderate to severe chronin pain. Mostly in my legs, hips, thighs and feet. Though now is has gone to my arms. Been getting back pains as well. And headaches. I don't sleep at night, 'cause of the pain... I sleep during the day, because of my meds that I am on. I am 6 different types of meds. I also suffer swelling in my thighs and legs and ankels. I am on meds for that too. I was just recently put on a mucsel relaxer. It's helping. It's for my back mainly. I don't get out as I used to. But when I do, I come in major pain. I only have a few friends that understands, though they don't have what I have. I miss out on a lot

because of this pain. I used to be really active in my church, but now not so much becasue of the pain. I can't sit for a long period of time or stand. If I stand for too long, my feet/toes become numb. I have had this since 2003. I am on SSI and DSHS. I don't work. I wish I did though. I hate it when someone says, oh you'll be fine someday. OR if you just get out and about you'll be ok. OR if you lose weight you'll be in less pain.... I hate those. Mostly comes from family members. They have NO idea the pain I am in. I also have mild depression. Had since last year. I write poetry. It's a MAJOR passion and it is also therapy for me as well. Anyway, I am glad that I am in a group of people who understands what I am going through on a daily basics. When I am in severe pain, (which lasts up to 4 to 5 days) I am in bed... I don't think about anything at all... other than the fact, that I am in pain. I stay away from water..

'cause it burns my skin. I can't have anything on my lap. Or nothing touch my skin for that matter. I get stingy pains as well. I am partielly deaf. My parents have been so supportive since I have been disabled. So has my sister. I have 2 brothers. One of them (he is 22) always says, you can do this.. or you know you can work or drive. I hate it when he says that. Even though I know he means well. I get upset when he says stuff like that. Because I KNOW I can't work or drive.. (driving part, is I just dont' want to, period) I have a great support system with my online friends and friends as well. But still, to talk to someone who actually understands what your going through is nice. Anyway, hope to hear from all of you soon.~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~MySpace: http://myspace.com/ctr625~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/p/_Skotland/502509057~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Check out my slideshows: http://ctr62578.slide.com/~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ 360 page: http://360./howie_lvr~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Check out Otis Spunkmeir: http://www.catster.com/cats/364695~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~AIM: CTR62578MSN: CTR62578@...: howie_lvr@...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~"Through the good and bad times, I still have my wings, to fly me to my dreams" ~Flying With Wings by Skotland_________________________________________________________________Watch free concerts with Pink, Rod , Oasis and more. Visit MSN In Concert today. http://music.msn.com/presents?icid=ncmsnpresentstagline~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~The Being Sick CommunityMessage

Archives-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Chats at /chatBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into groups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe This group is not

intended to diagnose or treat illnesses. No one on this group is qualified to diagnose medical conditions. If you feel you need medical attention, seek the advice of a qualified physician.~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~When nothing is sure, everything is possible.--- Margaret Drabble~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~

[Guest guest]

. You poor thing. I was in a world of hurt when I was on the pain meds. It messed me up pretty bad. I occasionally take a tylonol/motrin combo when it gets really bad. Now that I am off all the stuff, even depression meds, I sleep better and feel better. Everyone is different, but the Nsaids mess your gut up, and coat your intestins lining. This help to hold in bad bacteria, which damages your immune system.

I cut out eating salt, and limit processed foods with salt. ( rinse canned veggies). That and cutting out all sodas made me loose 15 pounds alone, and swelling in my hands and feet have left completely.

The poetry thing is great, you are on the right track there.

My old man never believed I was ill, or disabled, he always called me a lazy b@#$% all my life. Even after I left home and had 7 reconstructive spinal surgeries, a couple knee surgeries, ect- he was too dumb and self involved to care or comprehend what was going on.

Concerning the church thing. The only one whose opinion of why you aren't there is Gods. Church doesn't necessarilly make a good christian, jew, ect. My abusive old man is proof of that.

I'd love to see some of your poetry!

If you ever want cry on a shoulder, email me privately.

jimb

[Guest guest]

. You poor thing. I was in a world of hurt when I was on the pain meds. It messed me up pretty bad. I occasionally take a tylonol/motrin combo when it gets really bad. Now that I am off all the stuff, even depression meds, I sleep better and feel better. Everyone is different, but the Nsaids mess your gut up, and coat your intestins lining. This help to hold in bad bacteria, which damages your immune system.

I cut out eating salt, and limit processed foods with salt. ( rinse canned veggies). That and cutting out all sodas made me loose 15 pounds alone, and swelling in my hands and feet have left completely.

The poetry thing is great, you are on the right track there.

My old man never believed I was ill, or disabled, he always called me a lazy b@#$% all my life. Even after I left home and had 7 reconstructive spinal surgeries, a couple knee surgeries, ect- he was too dumb and self involved to care or comprehend what was going on.

Concerning the church thing. The only one whose opinion of why you aren't there is Gods. Church doesn't necessarilly make a good christian, jew, ect. My abusive old man is proof of that.

I'd love to see some of your poetry!

If you ever want cry on a shoulder, email me privately.

jimb

[Guest guest]

Hi Kris - welcome to the board. There is a lot of information on this

site - and links to other sites that can help you help your son.

Good luck and get ready to start researching and educating everyone you

know about this disease - since it seems (in my own personal

experience) not too many people know about it.

Hannah

Aidan - 4 and fevering for 25 months

Sid - 6

Fort Worth, TX 76036

[Guest guest]

alfonso has been on the cim. or tagment twice . did not work either time. it

didn't stop any of his fevers from comming. but it did help the tummy pains.

for a while then they came back too. but its worth the try to see if it

works good luck chicks

**************************************

See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Hannah,

I have to agree with you in our short adventure. The

people I tell our amazed at the diagnosis.

Have you considered taking his tonsils out? Do you use

the sterioid?

Thanks for your support and good luck to you as well.

Kris

Darr - 5 fevering for only 7 months never sick before

Maddison - 8 (used to be the sick one all the time -

tonsils and adnoids out not sick anymore!)

Denver, CO

--- hannahls73 <hannahlsmith@...> wrote:

> Hi Kris - welcome to the board. There is a lot of

> information on this

> site - and links to other sites that can help you

> help your son.

>

> Good luck and get ready to start researching and

> educating everyone you

> know about this disease - since it seems (in my own

> personal

> experience) not too many people know about it.

>

> Hannah

> Aidan - 4 and fevering for 25 months

> Sid - 6

>

> Fort Worth, TX 76036

>

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go

with for Mobile. Get started.

http://mobile./mail

[Guest guest]

I haven't had his tonsils out. Surgery scares me. And from what I

understand it's only like a 30 % cure rate . . . could be wrong here.

I think if it was 50% or 70% I would do it . . . but 3 out of 7? And

then for what if it didn't work? I don't know. It scares me though.

We do use the steriod which is successful for us - check out my

previous post yesterday for details . . . so I don't know.

Wondering about the tagament today - we have his 4 year old checkup

today - so I might question the tagament thing.

I don't know about surgery though . . . putting him out scares me -

but I am a worrier so there you go.

Hannah

Aidan - 4 - fevering for 25 months

Sid - 6

[Guest guest]

Hi Rita,

I’m in Andover. You can get the titers done at your

Dr.s for tetnus. I had it done at mine but his levels were low normal and my

Dr. said that meant he would still recommend getting another shot. So I did

the religious exemption. I state religious reasons (without being specific of

which faith) and then I print out the MA law and bring both in. I have not had

a problem. So you have options. –

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of ritas2boys

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:34

AM

EOHarm

Subject: New member

Hi....new to this group and happy to be here. I am the

mom of two boys

ages 10 and 12. The 10 yr old is dx on the autism spectrum. My 12

year old son has never been dx with anything, does well in school etc

but definitely has a touch of maybe adhd and/or sensory issues.Also

loaded with allergies and asthma.

Anyway....he (12 yr old) has the dreaded doctors appt and at this age

they will be requiring shots for entrance to his new junior high school.

He has had all other vacinations up to date but now that I know better

do not wish to further vacinate. How can I get out of this? I have

heard that you can request that the doctor test for titers? How is

this done? thanks for any advice. Rita in Boston

[Guest guest]

Here is some information State Exemptions

http://www.909shot.com/state-site/state-exemptions.htm

>

> Hi....new to this group and happy to be here. I am the mom of two boys

> ages 10 and 12. The 10 yr old is dx on the autism spectrum. My 12

> year old son has never been dx with anything, does well in school etc

> but definitely has a touch of maybe adhd and/or sensory issues.Also

> loaded with allergies and asthma.

> Anyway....he (12 yr old) has the dreaded doctors appt and at this age

> they will be requiring shots for entrance to his new junior high school.

> He has had all other vacinations up to date but now that I know better

> do not wish to further vacinate. How can I get out of this? I have

> heard that you can request that the doctor test for titers? How is

> this done? thanks for any advice. Rita in Boston

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Rita...long time no email! Welcome!

I had my NT son partially vax'd before we had made the vax-autism

connection with my oldest. I filed a religious exemption with the

school and didn't have a problem (maybe I'm just lucky though...).

I can email you the letter and copy of the Mass. law offlist if you'd

like.

Take care,

Cheryl

> >

> > Hi....new to this group and happy to be here. I am the mom of

two boys

> > ages 10 and 12. The 10 yr old is dx on the autism spectrum. My

12

> > year old son has never been dx with anything, does well in

school etc

> > but definitely has a touch of maybe adhd and/or sensory

issues.Also

> > loaded with allergies and asthma.

> > Anyway....he (12 yr old) has the dreaded doctors appt and at this

age

> > they will be requiring shots for entrance to his new junior high

school.

> > He has had all other vacinations up to date but now that I know

better

> > do not wish to further vacinate. How can I get out of this? I

have

> > heard that you can request that the doctor test for titers? How

is

> > this done? thanks for any advice. Rita in Boston

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Rita...long time no email! Welco

Hi Cheryl!!!!!!!!!! I agree, long time....hope all is well. Thanks

for your reply. Do you know if you can file for reg exemption after

already doing vacines in the past? Is there any other option? You can

email me offlist if you want. thanks...

[Guest guest]

Hi Rita,

Have you read Dr. Cave’s book? I

would recommend it to you. It is “What Your Doctor May NOT Tell You

about Childhood Vaccinations” by Dr. S Cave. It’s always our

shower gift.

Pamela

" Courage is doing

what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker,

top US

fighter ace, WWI

From: EOHarm

[mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of ritas2boys

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:34

AM

EOHarm

Subject: New member

Hi....new to this group and happy to be here. I am the

mom of two boys

ages 10 and 12. The 10 yr old is dx on the autism spectrum. My 12

year old son has never been dx with anything, does well in school etc

but definitely has a touch of maybe adhd and/or sensory issues.Also

loaded with allergies and asthma.

Anyway....he (12 yr old) has the dreaded doctors appt and at this age

they will be requiring shots for entrance to his new junior high school.

He has had all other vacinations up to date but now that I know better

do not wish to further vacinate. How can I get out of this? I have

heard that you can request that the doctor test for titers? How is

this done? thanks for any advice. Rita in Boston

[Guest guest]

bodydessertsandfashion <bodydessertsandfashion@...> wrote: Hi Natural

Perfumers,

My name is and I am a former textile designer. Although I am

new to creating perfumes, I have taken a beginners workshop that got me

started but would like to further my studies to something more than

just a beginning class as I am working towards making more complex

perfumes. Chemical sensitivities is something I have dealt with for

some time but on the plus side it does help me be more sensitive to

different scents. I hope to persue this as a healthy venue for

creative expression and am greatful that this group is available for me

to take part in.

Hi Liz

Welcome ..... Enjoy the files link and photos etc in the group.... any

questions just ask..... I am also trained in Textile..... what area?

Janita Haan perfume http://www.janitahaan.com coming

Janitas Attar meanderings of a Natural Perfumer

http://www.janitasattars.blogspot.com

Flowers of Myddfai http://www.flowersofmyddfaiproject.blogspot.com

---------------------------------

is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for

your freeaccount today.

[Guest guest]

bodydessertsandfashion wrote: Hi Natural Perfumers,

My name is and I am a former textile designer.

Apologies I should have welcomed you as ..... Welcome again *:-)

...

Janita

---------------------------------

Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.

[Guest guest]

Welcome .. This group is great; you will earn a lot from them ..

Namaste!!

Frantz

BlindSquirrel <blindsquirrel44@...> wrote:

Hello, I'm new to the group. My name is and I live in Georgia. Thanks

for having me.

I'm very interested in kombucha, and looking forward to learning more.

[Guest guest]

Welcome .. This group is great; you will earn a lot from them ..

Namaste!!

Frantz

BlindSquirrel <blindsquirrel44@...> wrote:

Hello, I'm new to the group. My name is and I live in Georgia. Thanks

for having me.

I'm very interested in kombucha, and looking forward to learning more.

[Guest guest]

Nice to see you here....what part of GA? We live just over the state line

in Jennings, FL.

On 6/30/07, BlindSquirrel <blindsquirrel44@...> wrote:

>

> Hello, I'm new to the group. My name is and I live in Georgia.

> Thanks

> for having me.

>

> I'm very interested in kombucha, and looking forward to learning more.

>

>

>

--

Live and Love Well,

Sandy (Jennings, FL; zone 8b)

[Guest guest]

Nice to see you here....what part of GA? We live just over the state line

in Jennings, FL.

On 6/30/07, BlindSquirrel <blindsquirrel44@...> wrote:

>

> Hello, I'm new to the group. My name is and I live in Georgia.

> Thanks

> for having me.

>

> I'm very interested in kombucha, and looking forward to learning more.

>

>

>

--

Live and Love Well,

Sandy (Jennings, FL; zone 8b)

[Guest guest]

West Georgia, about 35 miles west of Atlanta on I-20.

-- Re: New Member

Nice to see you here....what part of GA? We live just over the state line

in Jennings, FL.

On 6/30/07, BlindSquirrel <blindsquirrel44@...> wrote:

>

> Hello, I'm new to the group. My name is and I live in Georgia.

> Thanks

> for having me.

>

> I'm very interested in kombucha, and looking forward to learning more.

>

>

>

--

Live and Love Well,

Sandy (Jennings, FL; zone 8b)

[Guest guest]

West Georgia, about 35 miles west of Atlanta on I-20.

-- Re: New Member

Nice to see you here....what part of GA? We live just over the state line

in Jennings, FL.

On 6/30/07, BlindSquirrel <blindsquirrel44@...> wrote:

>

> Hello, I'm new to the group. My name is and I live in Georgia.

> Thanks

> for having me.

>

> I'm very interested in kombucha, and looking forward to learning more.

>

>

>

--

Live and Love Well,

Sandy (Jennings, FL; zone 8b)

[Guest guest]

Cool, I used to hang out that direction. We used to live in about

45 miles south of Atlanta. Enjoy your KT. I know it has been one of the

better choices in my life. I am typically brewing about 5-6 different taste

variations at a time and enjoy them all.

On 7/1/07, BlindSquirrel <blindsquirrel44@...> wrote:

>

> West Georgia, about 35 miles west of Atlanta on I-20.

>

>

>

--

Live and Love Well,

Sandy (Jennings, FL; zone 8b)

[Guest guest]

Cool, I used to hang out that direction. We used to live in about

45 miles south of Atlanta. Enjoy your KT. I know it has been one of the

better choices in my life. I am typically brewing about 5-6 different taste

variations at a time and enjoy them all.

On 7/1/07, BlindSquirrel <blindsquirrel44@...> wrote:

>

> West Georgia, about 35 miles west of Atlanta on I-20.

>

>

>

--

Live and Love Well,

Sandy (Jennings, FL; zone 8b)