Guest guest Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Welcome! You have found a great group to pull some valuable info. As far as the T & A goes, I would venture to say dozens and dozens of people on this site alone have gone this route, with very few people not getting permanant or near permanant results. I think alot of the people who had the T & A and no longer have fevers, rarely post. There certainly are people who it did not work for, but I certainly would not categorize that as the overwheming majority, or even close to it. My son, who is turning 3 on May 11 had his T & A back on May 19, 2008 and has been fever & symptom free since-we are excited to celebrate a year of no ! We had one virus (I think) back in February that caused a really high fever, but other than that, this was the only fever he has experienced. The T & A not only cured the fevers, but my son experienced a host of other benefits, included a huge and almost immediate increase in energy, lower sleep requirements, change in skin coloring (from pale with dark circles to a healthy looking flush), and an increase in appetite and weight gain. I can think of no downside to the surgery, other than an expected recovery period. Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Allegan, who makes the Lap-Band, has a good Spanish booklet. Cobntact your rep or go on their website. June new member Hello Everyone, My name is Yvette and I just recently began working with gastric bypass and Lap Band patients. We are working with a large hispanic population. I'm in the process of translating assessment forms and nutrition education info for both procedures. If anyone has any forms or nutrition information in spanish it would be a big help. Thanks, Yvette Salcie RD A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Hi Yvette... I am a dietitian from Venezuela and i could help you with the translation...just let me know anything you need and we can work it out.... Jannine > > Hello Everyone, > > My name is Yvette and I just recently began working with gastric bypass > and Lap Band patients. We are working with a large hispanic population. > I'm in the process of translating assessment forms and nutrition education info for both procedures. > If anyone has any forms or nutrition information in spanish it would be a big help. > > Thanks, > > Yvette Salcie RD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Since the literature is unclear regarding tonsilectomy - the studies are small and results are inconclusive -am wondering why so many people are choosing this option? I am curious... > We go in on monday to schedule a T & A. We, too, could not medicate our child everyday for years. When talking wiht my family dr (not the Immun.) our family doc replied to this same question you posted about and said... the studies with the medication are inconclusize and there are no quarentees medication will work either. So the choice is try a T & A or years of changing medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Thank you so much. Yvette From: "jgzaragoza@..." <jgzaragoza@...> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 5:53:08 PMSubject: Re: new member Allegan, who makes the Lap-Band, has a good Spanish booklet. Cobntact your rep or go on their website.June [bariatricNutrition Dietitians] new member Hello Everyone, My name is Yvette and I just recently began working with gastric bypass and Lap Band patients. We are working with a large hispanic population. I'm in the process of translating assessment forms and nutrition education info for both procedures. If anyone has any forms or nutrition information in spanish it would be a big help. Thanks, Yvette Salcie RD A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Hello Jannine, Thank you for offering to help. Do you know any sites that have spanish info on bypass & Lap-Band procedures? Yvette From: jannine2005 <jannine2005@...> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 7:34:54 PMSubject: Re: new member Hi Yvette... I am a dietitian from Venezuela and i could help you with the translation. ..just let me know anything you need and we can work it out....Jannine>> Hello Everyone,> > My name is Yvette and I just recently began working with gastric bypass> and Lap Band patients. We are working with a large hispanic population.> I'm in the process of translating assessment forms and nutrition education info for both procedures.> If anyone has any forms or nutrition information in spanish it would be a big help.> > Thanks,> > Yvette Salcie RD> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Hi - I also did not feel that keeping my twin boys and medication long term was an option. My boys had their T & A removed almost two weeks ago so I am keeping my fingers crossed. Both my sister and I along with our mom have or have had issues with our tonsils. I believe in my heart that there is some hereditary link to this. Just my thoughts for whatever it's worth. Good luck! Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Hi - I also did not feel that keeping my twin boys and medication long term was an option. My boys had their T & A removed almost two weeks ago so I am keeping my fingers crossed. Both my sister and I along with our mom have or have had issues with our tonsils. I believe in my heart that there is some hereditary link to this. Just my thoughts for whatever it's worth. Good luck! Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 For us, even though the studies are small, the results that I read were pretty conclusive. There are 2 studies that I read and both had a success rate of around 90%. For us, the results of the medication were very inconclusive and never studied or written up, so that pretty much was not much of a long term option for us. Coupled with our own ENT who had a near `100% success rates with the kids and T & A for us, it was much better than dealing with the fevers. We've been fever free for a year, so so far it has worked out, just as I had read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 For us, even though the studies are small, the results that I read were pretty conclusive. There are 2 studies that I read and both had a success rate of around 90%. For us, the results of the medication were very inconclusive and never studied or written up, so that pretty much was not much of a long term option for us. Coupled with our own ENT who had a near `100% success rates with the kids and T & A for us, it was much better than dealing with the fevers. We've been fever free for a year, so so far it has worked out, just as I had read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Our son had his T & A 11 days ago because we thought it was best. His fevers started coming back with multiple doses of steroid. We were at the point where he was getting 4 fevers in a 2 week period, and a son who said he constantly hurt. My BIL also had multiple fevers as a child, which went away after a T & A (Before had a name) and looking at him, knew that a T & A was a risk we were willing to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Hi , Since you essentially diagnosed your daughter and are a RN I think it's safe to say you probably have a good understanding of the condition and treaments, but... to add my 2 cents. As you've read, a number of people here have had success with the T & A. While it's not 100% guaranteed to work(and there are people here who can testify both ways), it seems the majority of people on this board have had success with the surgery so far and therefore offer hope. I think this hope has prompted a number of people to try this avenue. In terms of the people who weren't cured by T & A, I remember someone here had the fevers return said the studies don't follow the kids long enough. If you look at how long they followed the kids I think it was only about 6 months post op. There still is so much unknown about this condition(both T & A and med results) that it's difficult to navigate the options. Between meds, surgery and outgrowing it... at least there's several different opportunities for us to help our little ones! I don't know where you are in your diagnosis but there are several genetic conditions you can rule out. We got the testing done before we proceeded with anything because these conditions require different treatments than . Not everyone gets the testing done, but we did. After the genetic testing, our Dr told us that the NIH recommends Prednisone and Cimetidine as the first course of action(not sure which order, though you can use both at the same time). If those do not work, then you try the T & A. Just to clarify, the Cimetidine is taken daily, however it is not taken for the rest of your life. It is a case by case basis where some can stop after 6 months, some after 12, etc. We decided to try the Cimetidine and have had great success. Our son is a new child!!! So, guess I'm just chiming in to say that whatever course of action you take... there's much unknown, but also several different options to try. In the end, as long as you get relief from these fevers I think it's enough to say you've achieved the ultimate goal... Much luck to you as you navigate your options, Vivian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Hello, I feel that it is best to work with other RDs for at least one year. I learned soooo much from other dietitians. I started as an inpatient RD and even though I did not like be an inpatient dietitian I feel it was a very valuable experience that I would have regretted not being a part of. -Grace Grace L. RD Diabetes Educator Richmond, VAWork: (804) 287-7079Mobile: (740) 707-5997 From: couchpatater53 <couchpatater53@...>Subject: New member Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 12:41 PM Hi everyone,My name is and I was just offered a position to work as the sole bariatric dietitian in a readily-expanding outpatient facility.I am seeking some advice from those of you who have been in the field for a while. I am entry-level and from a non-traditional background. I earned my Masters in nutrition with no undergrad courses in nutrition. I am concerned that I may be "specializing" too early in my career and perhaps I should start out in the inpatient setting so I am exposed to more of a variety of nutritional risks. What do you all think? I would appreciate some advice. Another concern of mine is that I would not be able to work and collaborate with a team of dietitians and also would be responsible for finding all of my own CPEs. Any suggestions?Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Chip has never complained that his stomach hurt and now he is crying about it all the time. Also, sometimes he has all the symptoms but the fever.. then he'll get a low fever... it was 10 days between episodes last time. Is this normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Chip has never complained that his stomach hurt and now he is crying about it all the time. Also, sometimes he has all the symptoms but the fever.. then he'll get a low fever... it was 10 days between episodes last time. Is this normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Hi - nothing is 'normal' with I don't think. All the kids seem to have similarities but all are slightly different. Emma never hat any other symptoms but the fever. After about a year of fevering she started with joint pains. Fever patterns varied. We never had a mouth sore or throat involvement, yet the T & A (March 2008) seems to have resolved all symptoms so far. In fact, she has not fevered at all since her T & A - even with the worst ear infection or other viruses that kids pick up. She used to spike fevers with anything prior to T & A. Inga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Thanks Inga - it's a double edged sword to have the background to decipher the medical literature. Since there are no genetic syndromes in the families and I directed the pediatrician in lab work to test for - it was apparent when the results came back. Considering what causes PFS in children I am relieved by the diagnosis, but, there is so much unknown with . It acts as if it is an infectious disease since it does not appear in a specific geographic area, sex or race - but - then it behaves like an autoimmune disorder and I believe that is where the problem lies. As far as results go Cimetidine has recently been taken off the table as it has been inconclusive and largely ineffective. I have never considered giving her a daily medication regardless. Colchicine has been suggested, but, again - small studies, mixed results. Prednisone or rather prednisolone (lesser option) is the definitive diagnostic tool for and giving a child a single dose every 7+ days does not cause HPA axis suppression (the major concern with steroids and children). The fevers certainly come more frequently, but, are shorter in duration (hours vs days). Tonsilectomy studies are small, breif and inconclusive. The medical community is not even certain what the relationship is and believes many of the success stories are children that were primarily misdiagnosed with . More research is needed for certain, but, as long as they believe it is a rare disorder - the funding will not come. Thank you for all the responses! I am happy to have found this board and find comfort in knowing I am not alone in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Thanks Inga - it's a double edged sword to have the background to decipher the medical literature. Since there are no genetic syndromes in the families and I directed the pediatrician in lab work to test for - it was apparent when the results came back. Considering what causes PFS in children I am relieved by the diagnosis, but, there is so much unknown with . It acts as if it is an infectious disease since it does not appear in a specific geographic area, sex or race - but - then it behaves like an autoimmune disorder and I believe that is where the problem lies. As far as results go Cimetidine has recently been taken off the table as it has been inconclusive and largely ineffective. I have never considered giving her a daily medication regardless. Colchicine has been suggested, but, again - small studies, mixed results. Prednisone or rather prednisolone (lesser option) is the definitive diagnostic tool for and giving a child a single dose every 7+ days does not cause HPA axis suppression (the major concern with steroids and children). The fevers certainly come more frequently, but, are shorter in duration (hours vs days). Tonsilectomy studies are small, breif and inconclusive. The medical community is not even certain what the relationship is and believes many of the success stories are children that were primarily misdiagnosed with . More research is needed for certain, but, as long as they believe it is a rare disorder - the funding will not come. Thank you for all the responses! I am happy to have found this board and find comfort in knowing I am not alone in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 It all depends on you and your comfort level. I started right out of grad school as the only dietitian completely creating the nutrition program here at my job. My undergrad was in exercise science with a masters in nutrition. I felt ok specializing b/c I knew I wanted to do weight management ultimately and this worked for me. I also felt I had a very strong clinical rotation part of my internship combined with my coursework felt I had a good background from there. Obviously there is always more to learn but had to get a job and this one was available and I liked it. Here in our community I have found other dietitians to network with through our local dietetic association meeting and just some others I have met. Now there are a couple other bariatric dietitians in this city and we are going to start having a journal club where we can get some CEUs from that and network/learn from each other. Either way is good – I just think you have to be comfortable with the decision. Just my thoughts… K. Mackie, MS, RD, LDN Southeast Bariatrics, P.A. 2300-A Randolph Road Charlotte, NC 28207 (704) 347-4144 x 214 hmackie@... www.southeastbariatrics.com From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Grace Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 3:21 PM To: Subject: Re: New member Hello, I feel that it is best to work with other RDs for at least one year. I learned soooo much from other dietitians. I started as an inpatient RD and even though I did not like be an inpatient dietitian I feel it was a very valuable experience that I would have regretted not being a part of. -Grace Grace L. RD Diabetes Educator Richmond, VA Work: (804) 287-7079 Mobile: (740) 707-5997 From: couchpatater53 <couchpatater53hotmail> Subject: New member Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 12:41 PM Hi everyone, My name is and I was just offered a position to work as the sole bariatric dietitian in a readily-expanding outpatient facility. I am seeking some advice from those of you who have been in the field for a while. I am entry-level and from a non-traditional background. I earned my Masters in nutrition with no undergrad courses in nutrition. I am concerned that I may be " specializing " too early in my career and perhaps I should start out in the inpatient setting so I am exposed to more of a variety of nutritional risks. What do you all think? I would appreciate some advice. Another concern of mine is that I would not be able to work and collaborate with a team of dietitians and also would be responsible for finding all of my own CPEs. Any suggestions? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Hi, I have always worked by myself, even when I was an in-patient RD. I feel that I did miss out on a lot of things that I would received by working with a group of RD's. I do feel that it was important for me to see a wider range of patients in the beginning of my career. I had an opportunity to build a diabetes program with the educator at the hospital I worked at which helped tremendously when I came to bariatrics. If you decide to take the bariatric job, you will either love it or hate it. I fell in love with it during my first training session and will be involved with bariatrics for the remainder of my dietetic career. Of course, being an outpatient RD can be a coveted position. Joining DPGs and groups like this one helped tremendously 5 years ago when I started. One last comment... my surgeon said not too long ago how wonderful it has been for him to watch me grow in my career. I had only practiced about 1 1/2 years prior to coming to bariatrics so I was pretty green. That meant so much to me to feel that respect from a surgeon. I have had so many opportunities since I came to bariatrics that I would have never experienced if I would have stayed clinical. Please feel free to call me or email me if you have any questions. Lovisa, RD, CD Bariatric Dietitian Memorial Weight Loss & Bariatric Surgery Center 6913 North Main Street Suite 100 Granger, IN 46530 Office: 574-647-2953 Pager: 574-472-2644 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Yvette, I am not sure if you have contact Ethicon Endo Surgery and Allergan but they have spanish brochures. Tina Musselman, R.D., C.C.N. Bariatric Surgery Program Coordinator www.stjameshospital.org tina.musselman@... Phone: 708-679-2717 or 708-747-4000 ext. 7444 Fax: 708-679-2048 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of yvette halesSent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 7:40 AM Subject: Re: Re: new member Hello Jannine, Thank you for offering to help. Do you know any sites that have spanish info on bypass & Lap-Band procedures? Yvette From: jannine2005 <jannine2005hotmail> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 7:34:54 PMSubject: Re: new member Hi Yvette... I am a dietitian from Venezuela and i could help you with the translation. ..just let me know anything you need and we can work it out....Jannine>> Hello Everyone,> > My name is Yvette and I just recently began working with gastric bypass> and Lap Band patients. We are working with a large hispanic population.> I'm in the process of translating assessment forms and nutrition education info for both procedures.> If anyone has any forms or nutrition information in spanish it would be a big help.> > Thanks,> > Yvette Salcie RD> The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents is intended for the sole use of the recipient to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and prohibited from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, or authorized to receive this on behalf of the recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, disclosure, copying, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please contact the sender by e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Hi Everyone,  I haven't posted on here in a while. I try to keep up on the posts but have not been so good at it lately. For those of you who don't know us I will give a brief history. Our son Landon started fevering before his first birthday. We had all the classic symptoms, high fevers, mouth sores, swollen glands, leg pain, no appetite, etc. Like many others it took years for us to get a diagnosis other then " it's a virus " . Landon was diagnosed at age 3 and we were given predinsone. At first I thought it was a miracle but my hopes were crushed when the fevers started coming every 4-7 days.  One night, in the middle of the night, Landon was once again fevering and miserable and I started googling and stumbled upon this group. Such a life saver! I finally found others who knew exactly what were going through. This group introduced the idea of a T & A. At first my husband and I were like " no way, what if it doesn't work " . Then as time went on the fevers were not going away and the amount of medicine we were pumping into our son was alarming. After a long hard battle we decides it was worth a shot. Landon had a T & A Sept of 2008, he was almost 5 yrs. old and so far we have been fever free. He did have two fevers (not high at all) in January, but I really think it was truly viral. He is a different person and we are not the only ones who recognize it. He is happier, more energetic and has gained 7 pounds since Sept. I know the fevers could come back at any time but for now I will live in this moment.  I wanted to share our success. When I read Inga's post I thought I needed to share. Now that Landon is better I do not post on here regularly.. I thank Inga, Ginger, , and all the others for helping me and Landon. Hearing their success stories really gave me hope!  Best of Luck to All, Jackie Giudice mom to Landon 5 1/2 yrs old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 I have had three children survive very very rare diseases and none of these have been genetic..just fluke things.  All of my children have no side effects from any of it..the doctors can't explain it. Sometimes you just have to trust youir insticts and believe in a guardian angel. Sami has been fever free for 2 years and when they removed her tonsils they said they were perfrectly healthy and the doctors had no idea what soever why it worked..but it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 2009/5/12 neelam bhatia <sweetneel2003@...>: > > > Dear All, > > I am a new member joined this group.I am a parent of a child with Autism who > is 10 yrs old.Bid medical is new for me and have heard a lot about it and > how it has helped our children. > > I stay in Dubai so would like to know which tests are required to be done > before starting the GFCF Diet. i didnt have any tests before i went gf/cf. i was severely mentally upset and couldnt achieve anything. i went cold turkey where all gluten and milk items went out of my diet. A few weeks later when i appeared to regress i added magnesium and b6 into my regime. > > Rgds > > neel -- is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 2009/5/12 neelam bhatia <sweetneel2003@...>: > > > Dear All, > > I am a new member joined this group.I am a parent of a child with Autism who > is 10 yrs old.Bid medical is new for me and have heard a lot about it and > how it has helped our children. > > I stay in Dubai so would like to know which tests are required to be done > before starting the GFCF Diet. i didnt have any tests before i went gf/cf. i was severely mentally upset and couldnt achieve anything. i went cold turkey where all gluten and milk items went out of my diet. A few weeks later when i appeared to regress i added magnesium and b6 into my regime. > > Rgds > > neel -- is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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