Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 I started taking Provigil over Christmas time as well. I am also a teacher. Yes, it is wonderful. I had samples and when I went to fill a prescription, I found what you are describing, with doctors saying how difficult it is to get. My family doctor said that " we'd all like a little boost in the morning. " Ack. I'd have a cup of coffee for that. My neurologist is trying and I have to go to the pharmacy tomorrow to see if I have my prescription filled. I almost felt like an addict, though, as I ran out of samples and had to push through the day. Then when I saw more samples on the counter . . . Phew. I cut it in half and take 100mg in the morning and at noon. I'm also working through the teacher's retirement to get disability, so hopefully the drugs are temporary. I didn't know it was possible to get this tired I only take Provigil for work, not on the weekends. They make an amazing difference. I think the hereditary neuropathy site had some info about provigil, but you have to be a member. They do have two articles that I found for you at http://www.hnf-cure.org/epublisher/publish/cat_index_4.php but again you have to pay to see the whole thing, which I can't afford to do. Maybe it could help you, though. Take care. I find I'm having more trouble finished sentences and remembering tasks short term since starting the Provigil, but it may also be stress and A LOT going on. Good luck, Lenka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 I've been on Provigil for almost four years now. Couldn't have worked this long without it. I've always taken 200 mg a day but my neurologist just raised it to 300 mg a day. She says that it has been tested and proven safe in quantities up to 1000 mg a day. She also says that the dosage is different for different types of diseases. One thing that I've been told by three different neurologists is that you should take the full day's dosage at one time, first thing in the morning. It supposedly works to regulate your sleep/wake cycle. I'm concerned that if you're taking some in the morning and some around mid-day, you may be messing with your sleep cycle. It is not an 'upper' or an amphetamine. It isn't used for getting a 'little boost'. It actually works on certain brain functions (don't ask me what ) to regulate your body systems. It isn't addictive as in you won't have any withdrawal symptoms if you stop taking it but it is probably habit forming -- I wouldn't want to give it up. It was originally used in Narcoleptics and Air Force pilots but you probably know this. It did take a while (couple of months) to get used to it and it does make me bounce in my head but you'll get past that part after a bit. I can still take afternoon naps when I need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Lenka, Few people know the stress of teaching -- always " on " for 7-8 hours a day! I also split the 200 mg pill and take it when I start to flag, usually between 10:00 AM and 2:00 PM. I found out that it really pays to shop around for a pharmacy. Look for the Mom-and-Pop store that may belong to an association but isn't a chain. I found the drug for $610.00 for 90 200 mg tabs which at my current usage is 6 months. I agree with you about taking the weekend off. Sometime we have to pay the piper for the lack of fatigue. I am also leaving school this year and seeking disability. It seems we are following parallel courses! Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 The correct url is: http://www.hnf-cure.org/members/articles/article_0068.php Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 I found 4 citations for using Provigil in MS, and a Harvard Medical Bulletin. I am using them in my appeal for coverage. Sad to say, but sometimes I wish for more CMT patients so we would have a greater voice. But then I feel really nasty about myself and return to reality. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I wasn't able to get to the pharmacy this weekend, so I'm not sure what the news will be about the Provigil. Those insurance companies are sure hearing from me a lot lately, so maybe they'll try and shore me up a little longer before they have to pay for some real trouble, like a fall or injury (wishful thinking about insurance companies thinking ahead, I think ) I'm keeping my fingers crossed. The doctor who turned me on to Provigil I could only see once because she was out of network and my insurance doesn't like her organization. She recommended splitting the pill and taking it a few hours apart. I really do need something by lunchtime (I call it my witching hour. Noon and everything goes exhausted.) I haven't had too much problem getting to sleep at night (I worry, though, which keeps me awake). I haven't been able to research very much about long term effects. I'm glad to hear that it isn't addictive. Hopefully the disability will let me cut back. I know that days I don't take it, I crash hard because I am overextending myself on those days with the Provigil. Larry, it does sound like we're in similar situations. What grade do you teach? I have second grade. They are wonderful, but they don't give me a moment of downtime. I am applying through STRS- currently submitting oceans of paperwork. Good luck with your disability application. It's so hard teaching and trying to manage this disorder and get all the paperwork submitted, faxed, etc. Crazy making! Take care, Lenka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 , thanks for the advice. I may try some just in the morning, though I really sag at noon. I get that " zing " energy around and hour after I take some but it fades after about 3-4 hours. Sleeping at night hasn't been a challenge. I can even nap when I get a chance. My fatigue is pretty huge. The Provigil is what gets me through the day right now. I'll have to investigate how it works. My family doctor was the one calling it a " boost " though it sounds a lot more sophisticated than that. I wish they would do a study so we could have everything and anything possible that could help us available to us. Interesting how doctors have so many different perspectives. Thanks again and take care, Lenka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 My insurance company denied my prescription for Provigil because I do not have multiple sclerosis or narcolepsy. Abby In a message dated 1/26/2008 7:22:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, cmcpherson@... writes: I asked for a prescription for Provigil last year after reading about it on this group. My Rheumy had no problem writing the prescription but I had problems filling it. My insurance denied it, said I needed a doctors review (I have a max of $1500 annually) and I asked how much if I just paid for it. I can't remember exactly, but it was more than $5 daily, that much I do remember, because if it had been less I might have tried it. Apparently, that drug is very expensive. Colleen **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Hi dear friends, I went to see my rheumy yesterday and he put me back on the Enbrel and has added Provigil to help with my fatigue.? He says that he needs to seperate the diseases.? Currently, I do have severe anemia and every 2 weeks I receive??a unit of iron.? To date, I have yet to bring my count up to normal and allow my body to begin storing iron on it's own part.? This has been going on already for several months. Apparently, my Rheumy is also concerned that my body has not returned back to normal from the previous 5 years (gee, (gee.....what do you think???????4 episodes of being on a? ventilator; 4 medically induced comas; 2 episodes of? being declared legally dead and shocked back into cardiac rhythm; over 10 episodes of septic shoc, several skin grafts and finally a above right knee amputation...............do ya think???????).? Now my other question: I go my lab work back and my CRP cardiac is 3 times normal level.? The doctor claims that it has been high was quite a while and that? is? why he was checking it for me originally.? The quantative CRP was also over double it's values.? Now fatigue is also part of cardiac problems.? On the lab work, it states " CRP, cardiac 8.57, anything >3.00 is high risk of cardiovascular event " .? Should?I be worried?? I called him about this, just for clarification and (oh WOW.......didn't get a call back)!!!!!!!!.? Does anyone else have this type of inflamation in addition to the other inflamation numbers (sed rate, RA factors, etc)? Maybe I am just being my same nuttyy self, but this is Debs!!!!!!!!!? Thank you all for welcoming back.? I didn't realize how much I missed you fuys.? I feel like I am " home " again.? Just FYI:? I still have my cabana boys, however, they have to work much harder these days, but ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh soooooooooooooooooo worth it! LOL Gentle, tender angel hugs to all, Debs in FL Re: [ ] Provigil, no luck HI NICOLE, IM SORRY YOU HAVE NOT BEEN WELL. I TO SUFFER FROM SEVERE RA,OSTEO,NEUROPATHY & DEPRESSION.. I FEEL FATIGUE ALL THE TIME MY HUB SAYS TO STOP BEING LAZY! MY DRS. WANTED ME TO SEE A PSYCH. AS WELL & I SAID NO. THEY PUT ME ON LEXAPRO ALONG WITH MY XANAX & IM DOING SOO MUCH BETTER NOW. I HOPE YOU GET THE HELP YOU NEED TO FEEL BETTER & THATS GREAT YOU GOT MEDICAID.. BEST WISHES & GOOD LUCK,NICOLE.. GOD BLESS,MELYNDAGAMEZ 4/25/08 8:20P.M.CENTRAL TIME [ ] Provigil, no luck Hi all, hope everyone is well and flare free.? I have been trying to get on provigil or a medication simular to it to help combat the extreme fatigue that I have from my RA/fibro.? I did a sleep study and I don't have sleep apnea or any sleep disorder.? The problem is that provigil is being used " off label " for fatigue, and many insurances won't cover off label use of medications. I need to see a psychirist (I can't spell, sorry) to help w/ my depression, PTSD (traumatic hospitalization) and bi-polar.? My rheumy wants to see of they can better manage my meds to help me feel less drained.? They said I am doing everything right to fight the fatigue...but they are not comfortable messing around w/ the dosing of my mental health medications. Grrrr. The problem is that my discount health program doesn't cover pysch (I would need $65 up front and then billed for $300).? I just got approved for SSDI, so I can get on Medicaid...then I can see a psych with no out of pocket cost. I am again playing the waiting game.? I just hope they can help me.? ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Deb, I've never had a CRP cardiac test done. My rheumy just does a plain old CRP, and since I've been on Enbrel, it's been normal except one time it was slightly elevated. Anything to do with the heart would worry me, too. I'm sure your rheumy will do something about it if needed. Have you tried calling him again? I hope that everything is okay with your heart. You have been through so much; it's time you got some relief. Let us know how it goes. I'm glad that you've had your cabana boys; you've really needed them. But I hope you don't mind that I borrowed some of them and took it to a silly group I'm on. We have a virtual party every month, and it was a big hit when I introduced the concept of cabana boys to them. Now they're at all our parties, LOL. I'm wishing the best for you. You'll be in my thoughts and prayers. Sue On Saturday, April 26, 2008, at 12:55 PM, BadKneesDebs@... wrote: > > Now my other question: I go my lab work back and my CRP cardiac is 3 > times normal level.? The doctor claims that it has been high was quite > a while and that? is? why he was checking it for me originally.? The > quantative CRP was also over double it's values.? Now fatigue is also > part of cardiac problems.? On the lab work, it states " CRP, cardiac > 8.57, anything >3.00 is high risk of cardiovascular event " .? Should?I > be worried?? I called him about this, just for clarification and (oh > WOW.......didn't get a call back)!!!!!!!!.? Does anyone else have this > type of inflamation in addition to the other inflamation numbers (sed > rate, RA factors, etc)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Dear Sue, ? Thanks for your reply.? We went for some dinner on Friday night with friends of ours for over 25 years?which was the best medicine that any doctor could have prescribed, however, it was still in the back of my mind and to date, I have still not heard?from him?(the rhemy).? I sure hope that he has the common courtesy to allay my fears asap. Hope you have a peaceful and painfree weekend, you certaisly deserve it. Gentle, tender, loving angel hugs....... Deb in FL Re: [ ] Provigil Deb, I've never had a CRP cardiac test done. My rheumy just does a plain old CRP, and since I've been on Enbrel, it's been normal except one time it was slightly elevated. Anything to do with the heart would worry me, too. I'm sure your rheumy will do something about it if needed. Have you tried calling him again? I hope that everything is okay with your heart. You have been through so much; it's time you got some relief. Let us know how it goes. I'm glad that you've had your cabana boys; you've really needed them. But I hope you don't mind that I borrowed some of them and took it to a silly group I'm on. We have a virtual party every month, and it was a big hit when I introduced the concept of cabana boys to them. Now they're at all our parties, LOL. I'm wishing the best for you. You'll be in my thoughts and prayers. Sue On Saturday, April 26, 2008, at 12:55 PM, BadKneesDebs@... wrote: > > Now my other question: I go my lab work back and my CRP cardiac is 3 > times normal level.? The doctor claims that it has been high was quite > a while and that? is? why he was checking it for me originally.? The > quantative CRP was also over double it's values.? Now fatigue is also > part of cardiac problems.? On the lab work, it states " CRP, cardiac > 8.57, anything >3.00 is high risk of cardiovascular event " .? Should?I > be worried?? I called him about this, just for clarification and (oh > WOW.......didn't get a call back)!!!!!!!!.? Does anyone else have this > type of inflamation in addition to the other inflamation numbers (sed > rate, RA factors, etc)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Hi, everyone. Has anyone had any experience with the drug Provigil? My neurologist asked me if I wanted to try it to address fatigue and cognitive side effects, but I would really like to hear others' experiences before adding yet another medication to my daily regimen. Thanks for your thoughts. Warm regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Hi , I have heard of a few people who have tried Provigil and most have reported fairly positive results from it. I do caution you though, to discuss it with your pharmacist because it's known to interact with Gleevec. If you do decide to try it, I would ask for blood serum levels to be done to determine just how much of an interaction there is and if necessary, alter either dosage as the case may be. Goodluck, Tracey > > Hi, everyone. > > Has anyone had any experience with the drug Provigil? My neurologist > asked me if I wanted to try it to address fatigue and cognitive side > effects, but I would really like to hear others' experiences before > adding yet another medication to my daily regimen. > > Thanks for your thoughts. > > Warm regards. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Thank you, Tracey and . Any information/advice is very helpful. Warm regards. > > > > Hi, everyone. > > > > Has anyone had any experience with the drug Provigil? My > neurologist > > asked me if I wanted to try it to address fatigue and cognitive > side > > effects, but I would really like to hear others' experiences before > > adding yet another medication to my daily regimen. > > > > Thanks for your thoughts. > > > > Warm regards. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 I had to pay for it out of pocket. (I went through an online pharmacy). My rheumy loves it, and he prescribes it to his patients. He was telling me that he gets nothing of positive feedback from his patients on it. He is hoping that the manufacuer will soon do a study prescribing provigil for it's off-label use for RA/fibro patients. It really does help. > > I love the Provigil. Trouble is insurance companies do not like to cover it > except for that which it is FDA approved for- I hope that will change in the > future. It is expensive stuff. I'm glad you got some. > Abby > > > In a message dated 8/11/2008 1:30:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > man_u8@... writes: > > So my rheumy prescribed me provigil and I finally had enough extra > money to get it filled. OMG...it really helps w/ the chronic fatigue. > It doesn't make me feel jittery, it hasn't effected my sleep what so > ever. Granted, I have only been on it for a few days...but I don't > feel like I need to take nap after I take a shower. Hopefully once I > get my first remaciade infusion, I will start to feel like a human > again. > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review? ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Unfortunately, Rx assistance will work only if you don't have insurance or don't have an income or make under a certain amount (which is low). Abby In a message dated 8/11/2008 9:58:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bureau97504@... writes: have you tried getting the meds directlly from the drug company? They usually have rx assistance programs to help those that cannot afford to buy the medication. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Well if you go to your local pharmacy it will be around $935-985 for 200mg, 90 count. I went online and got the same rx (canada and us, does not offer generic). The generic is produced in India and available through the UK. I paid %375. I cut the tabs in half, so it should last me 6 months. You can take up to 400ng daily, but I am starting at a low dose which is working for me. > > > > > > I love the Provigil. Trouble is insurance companies do not like > to > > cover it > > > except for that which it is FDA approved for- I hope that will > > change in the > > > future. It is expensive stuff. I'm glad you got some. > > > Abby > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/11/2008 1:30:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > man_u8@ writes: > > > > > > So my rheumy prescribed me provigil and I finally had enough > extra > > > money to get it filled. OMG...it really helps w/ the chronic > > fatigue. > > > It doesn't make me feel jittery, it hasn't effected my sleep > what > > so > > > ever. Granted, I have only been on it for a few days...but I > > don't > > > feel like I need to take nap after I take a shower. Hopefully > once > > I > > > get my first remaciade infusion, I will start to feel like a > > human > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in > your > > budget? > > > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > > > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review? > > ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 have you tried getting the meds directlly from the drug company? They usually have rx assistance programs to help those that cannot afford to buy the medication. I get my Celebrex that way for free as I do not have health insurance as this time. I also get my Mirapex that the drug company sends me for free too. I take that for the fibro  Hope this helps someone Pat in Southern Oregon Bureau Alvarez From: ksanders58 <ksanders58@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Provigil Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 6:01 PM > > > > I love the Provigil. Trouble is insurance companies do not like to > cover it > > except for that which it is FDA approved for- I hope that will > change in the > > future. It is expensive stuff. I'm glad you got some. > > Abby > > > > > > In a message dated 8/11/2008 1:30:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > man_u8@ writes: > > > > So my rheumy prescribed me provigil and I finally had enough extra > > money to get it filled. OMG...it really helps w/ the chronic > fatigue. > > It doesn't make me feel jittery, it hasn't effected my sleep what > so > > ever. Granted, I have only been on it for a few days...but I > don't > > feel like I need to take nap after I take a shower. Hopefully once > I > > get my first remaciade infusion, I will start to feel like a > human > > again. > > > > > > > > > > ************ **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > > (http://autos. aol.com/cars- BMW-128-2008/ expert-review? > ncid=aolaut00050000 000017 ) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Ok Thank you very much [ ] Re: Provigil a, I was prescribed provigil for the chornic fatigue that I have from my RA/fibro. I too, have some trouble sleeping...but I don't feel like I need to take a nap in the middle of the day when I started taking provigil. So far, I take in the morning and I am still able to go to sleep at night. I would get frustrated because I would like to go out and enjoy life, but taking a shower would take all the energy that I have. I feel constantly whipped out. I am hoping this medication will help me not feel so tired all the time. So far it is helping. > > > > I love the Provigil. Trouble is insurance companies do not like to > cover it > > except for that which it is FDA approved for- I hope that will > change in the > > future. It is expensive stuff. I'm glad you got some. > > Abby > > > > > > In a message dated 8/11/2008 1:30:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > man_u8@ writes: > > > > So my rheumy prescribed me provigil and I finally had enough extra > > money to get it filled. OMG...it really helps w/ the chronic > fatigue. > > It doesn't make me feel jittery, it hasn't effected my sleep what > so > > ever. Granted, I have only been on it for a few days...but I > don't > > feel like I need to take nap after I take a shower. Hopefully once > I > > get my first remaciade infusion, I will start to feel like a > human > > again. > > > > > > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review? > ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Wow!Abby,I would like to talk to you.It sounds like you have been down the same road I have with RX assistance.It is really sad that we still can't get the help we need. > > Unfortunately, Rx assistance will work only if you don't have insurance or > don't have an income or make under a certain amount (which is low). > > Abby > > > In a message dated 8/11/2008 9:58:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > bureau97504@... writes: > > have you tried getting the meds directlly from the drug company? They > usually have rx assistance programs to help those that cannot afford to buy the > medication. > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review? ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 I hope Provigil gets approval for fibro and RA. When the generic becomes available here in North Americs, I can see it being used off-label for numerous fatigue and pain conditions. As to why it works for pain, the simple answer is that it acts to increase dopamine levels in the brain. Dopamine increases feelings of pleasure and well-being, and inhibits pain transmissions. Additionally, studies have shown dopamine to enhance creativity and learning, including task-associated attentiveness. Modafinil is the active drug in Provigil, and you can find more information at http://www.provigil.com or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/provigil or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/modafinil Jeff Verive > [text deleted] > My rheumy loves it, and he prescribes it to his > patients. He was telling me that he gets nothing of positive > feedback from his patients on it. He is hoping that the manufacuer > will soon do a study prescribing provigil for it's off-label use for > RA/fibro patients. > It really does help. > [text deleted] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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