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HELLO,

WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT COPPER (II) SALTS. I'VE DONE SOME SEARCHES AND

COME UP WITH A STUDY OF MOUTHWASHES WHICH COMPARE COPPER (II) CHLORIDE

WITH SILVER NITRATE AND CHLORHEXIDINE. COPPER WAS MORE EFFECTIVE THAN

SILVER AGAINST MANY MICROBES AND THE CONCLUSION WAS THAT AS IT IS AN

ESSENTIAL MINERAL AND GOOD FOR THE HEART THAT IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT

THIS WAS SUPERIOR TO EITHER. I JUST WENT ON A CHLOHEXIDINE BINGE

ORDERED FROM MY DENTIST. IT TURNED MY TEETH A DINGY COLOR AND THE

INFECTION DID NOT GO AWAY COMPLETELY. UPON BUYING SOME COPPER FROM

NATURES LIFE (2 MG) WHICH COMES IN CAPS AND SPRINKLING IT ONTO MY

MUCUOUS MEMBRANES IN MY MOUTH WHERE THIS RIDGE LINE IS AFTER 3 DAYS IT

IS ALMOST COMPLETELY GONE. I BELONGED TO THE SILVER LIST FOR A WHILE

AND NOBODY KNEW ANYTHING OVER THERE ABOUT COPPER SO I ASK DOES ANYONE

KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT COPPER AND LYME HERE? IF SILVER IS SUPPOSED TO HELP

AND COPPER IS BETTER AND LESS TOXIC THEN WHY HASN'T ANYONE TRIED IT YET?

I WAS THINKING OF MAKING A COLLOIDAL COPPER GENERATOR BUT I FOUND THAT

COPPER (I) SALTS ARE DEFINITELY TOXIC SO STOPPED THAT LINE OF THOUGHT.

COLLOIDAL COPPER WOULD NECESSARILY THEN BE A DEAD END BUT THE COPPER

(II) SALTS SHOW PROMISE.

THANKS

WAYNE

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In a message dated 1/7/04 10:44:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,

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> The rash can be a serious side effect of dilantin. One of the

> longer term side effects of dilantin is osteoporosis (or a form of

> adult rickets). It interferes with how the body utilizes vitamin D

> and can upset the function of the parathyroid gland which regulates

> calcium levels. That in turn is going to affect brain and nervous

> system function (could worsen the seizures), not to mention bones. I

> took dilantin in the 1980s and now have osteoporosis.

>

My son was on Dilantin for over twenty years and no one ever told us about

this bone loss issue. Now we know..... the damage has been done.

A rash can be a serious side effect of ANY pharmaceutical and needs immediate

attention. Call the doc or the ER.

MJH

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http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil

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...You will feel some reaction to lexapro the first week or so. It takes

your system awhile to acclimate. Plus going off of effexor is going to cause

some jits. Good luck.

Charlie

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1a. personal side-effects

Posted by: " " noshotdogbite@... monster2721

Date: Sat Jul 1, 2006 11:35 pm (PDT)

i just started lexapro and i'm on effexor and i'm weaning off

lamictal. it's been about 5 days. i was just wondering if anyone had

nausea and light-headedness when taking it. i'm also feeling jittery

most of the day. i take it in the evening but the effects seem to be

lasting all day. anyone relate?

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Posted by: " kbrown973 " kbrown973@... kbrown973

Date: Sun Jul 2, 2006 5:26 am (PDT)

Hi . I just started back on Lex 4 days ago. I did feel a

little jittery the first day or so and a little nausea. It may have

just been my anxiety of aking Lex again though. I take .25mg of xanax

4 times a day so it makes the " jitters " go away. Just stick with it, I

can already tell that I am feeling better. I don't have a problem with

drowsiness, actually, I have more of a problem sleeping. I hope all of

the side effects for us both and everyone out there go away soon!

Also, maybe you are having side effects from getting off of the

effexor. Hang in there and be well.

((Hugs)) K

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> i just started lexapro and i'm on effexor and i'm weaning off

> lamictal. it's been about 5 days. i was just wondering if anyone

had

> nausea and light-headedness when taking it. i'm also feeling

jittery

> most of the day. i take it in the evening but the effects seem to

be

> lasting all day. anyone relate?

>

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Hi, I am on day 3 of 10 mg of Lex, I too feel the jitters, nausea

and jaw clenching, but feel great otherwise…much better than I did.

This is all new to me too. Doc gave me 2 weeks of samples to make

sure I could tolerate as this is my first time, but she said the

second week she wanted me to take 20 mg…and I am wondering if that

will be way too much for me to handle. I take it in the morning,

first day I had a hard time sleeping, but stayed awake during the

day yesterday and slept well last night..for the first time in a

long time..except for the weird dreams. Thinking about calling

doctor and asking why up dose, why cant I stay on 10 mg for awhile

and see how I do. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

Sandy

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> > i just started lexapro and i'm on effexor and i'm weaning off

> > lamictal. it's been about 5 days. i was just wondering if

anyone

> had

> > nausea and light-headedness when taking it. i'm also feeling

> jittery

> > most of the day. i take it in the evening but the effects seem

to

> be

> > lasting all day. anyone relate?

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Just wanted to update...had bad night last night, went to doctor

today and told him I can't deal with the side effects of Lexapro, he

offered Cymbalta as a replacement...I said no thanks after reading

about those side effects as well. I do have an appointment coming up

they are trying to work me in to see P Doc so maybe with therapy

alone I can get through this. No way I could work and be on SSRI's.

Only took Lex for 3 days so he didnt say anything about weening off

it, just didnt take it anymore, have a dull headache and still the

vertigo like sypmtoms, but feel a little better than

yesterday..still no appetite.

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> > > i just started lexapro and i'm on effexor and i'm weaning off

> > > lamictal. it's been about 5 days. i was just wondering if

> anyone

> > had

> > > nausea and light-headedness when taking it. i'm also feeling

> > jittery

> > > most of the day. i take it in the evening but the effects

seem

> to

> > be

> > > lasting all day. anyone relate?

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Keep talking to your Dr. about your apprehensions and

what you have been feeling. Even though she is a

professional at this, it is still your body and you

need to take some control in how you feel. Ask her if

there is another drug that you can use instead of Lex

as different drugs have different side effects. Our

bodies do take time to adjust to different things,

foods and of course drugs. Make sure your Dr.

understands you and how you'd like to proceed with

things. If you think things are going too fast, talk

with her about that until there is better

understanding as to why she wants you to go up faster

than you are comfortable with. See if she will let you

go up only about a 1/2 a pill for a while instead or

even 1/4 for a short while and then up from there. I

can't see why she wouldn't work with you on this in

order to help keep your anxiety level as low as

possible. Hope things work out for you.

ak

--- Sandy Wiley <swiley@...> wrote:

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> Hi, I am on day 3 of 10 mg of Lex, I too feel the

> jitters, nausea

> and jaw clenching, but feel great otherwise…much

> better than I did.

> This is all new to me too. Doc gave me 2 weeks of

> samples to make

> sure I could tolerate as this is my first time, but

> she said the

> second week she wanted me to take 20 mg…and I am

> wondering if that

> will be way too much for me to handle. I take it in

> the morning,

> first day I had a hard time sleeping, but stayed

> awake during the

> day yesterday and slept well last night..for the

> first time in a

> long time..except for the weird dreams. Thinking

> about calling

> doctor and asking why up dose, why cant I stay on 10

> mg for awhile

> and see how I do. Any comments or suggestions would

> be appreciated.

>

> Sandy

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> > >

> > > i just started lexapro and i'm on effexor and

> i'm weaning off

> > > lamictal. it's been about 5 days. i was just

> wondering if

> anyone

> > had

> > > nausea and light-headedness when taking it. i'm

> also feeling

> > jittery

> > > most of the day. i take it in the evening but

> the effects seem

> to

> > be

> > > lasting all day. anyone relate?

> > >

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Hope you can find something that works for you. I've

been on SSRI's for so long that I don't know what is a

symptom of the drugs or from the depression. Even

though you don't feel like eating I hope you are still

eating something.

ak

--- Sandy Wiley <swiley@...> wrote:

> Just wanted to update...had bad night last night,

> went to doctor

> today and told him I can't deal with the side

> effects of Lexapro, he

> offered Cymbalta as a replacement...I said no thanks

> after reading

> about those side effects as well. I do have an

> appointment coming up

> they are trying to work me in to see P Doc so maybe

> with therapy

> alone I can get through this. No way I could work

> and be on SSRI's.

> Only took Lex for 3 days so he didnt say anything

> about weening off

> it, just didnt take it anymore, have a dull headache

> and still the

> vertigo like sypmtoms, but feel a little better than

>

> yesterday..still no appetite.

>

> > > >

> > > > i just started lexapro and i'm on effexor and

> i'm weaning off

> > > > lamictal. it's been about 5 days. i was just

> wondering if

> > anyone

> > > had

> > > > nausea and light-headedness when taking it.

> i'm also feeling

> > > jittery

> > > > most of the day. i take it in the evening but

> the effects

> seem

> > to

> > > be

> > > > lasting all day. anyone relate?

> > > >

> > >

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AUDREY KOEPKE <audkoe@...> wrote: Hope you can find something

that works for you. I've

been on SSRI's for so long that I don't know what is a

symptom of the drugs or from the depression. Even

though you don't feel like eating I hope you are still

eating something.

ak

--- Sandy Wiley <swiley@...> wrote:

> Just wanted to update...had bad night last night,

> went to doctor

> today and told him I can't deal with the side

> effects of Lexapro, he

> offered Cymbalta as a replacement...I said no thanks

> after reading

> about those side effects as well. I do have an

> appointment coming up

> they are trying to work me in to see P Doc so maybe

> with therapy

> alone I can get through this. No way I could work

> and be on SSRI's.

> Only took Lex for 3 days so he didnt say anything

> about weening off

> it, just didnt take it anymore, have a dull headache

> and still the

> vertigo like sypmtoms, but feel a little better than

>

> yesterday..still no appetite.

>

> > > >

> > > > i just started lexapro and i'm on effexor and

> i'm weaning off

> > > > lamictal. it's been about 5 days. i was just

> wondering if

> > anyone

> > > had

> > > > nausea and light-headedness when taking it.

> i'm also feeling

> > > jittery

> > > > most of the day. i take it in the evening but

> the effects

> seem

> > to

> > > be

> > > > lasting all day. anyone relate?

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hey Group. . .

I've only had 1 BMB/BMA on 11/21/2003 during diagnosis and will not have

another due to Chronic Orthopedic Diseases. I've heard that BMA/BMB aren't

'really necessary' if RT-PCR Testing is done except when this blood test changes

or for BMT consideration. " I am not a doctor have not portrayed one on TV , nor

do I aspire to be a physician in another life " . This is FYI/my 2 cents only. .

.. " K "

" K "

" I AIN'T FINISHED YET " !!!

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hi " K " ,. the reason people like Lottie and me have so many, like 40, are because

if you're in a trial they insist on them. some are every month, some are every 3

months. I have been in the Sprycel trial since 2004, and still get them every 3

months. You get so used to them, it's not so bad, not like the first one!!!

That was scary, after that one, you know what to expect. Bobby

IAintFinishedYet <kttweety@...> wrote:

Hey Group. . .

I've only had 1 BMB/BMA on 11/21/2003 during diagnosis and will not have another

due to Chronic Orthopedic Diseases. I've heard that BMA/BMB aren't 'really

necessary' if RT-PCR Testing is done except when this blood test changes or for

BMT consideration. " I am not a doctor have not portrayed one on TV , nor do I

aspire to be a physician in another life " . This is FYI/my 2 cents only. . . " K "

" K "

" I AIN'T FINISHED YET " !!!

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The real reason Bobby has had so many is that she likes these docs

grabbing her butt!!!!!

Bob , Granger, IN

> Hey Group. . .

>

> I've only had 1 BMB/BMA on 11/21/2003 during diagnosis and will not

have another due to Chronic Orthopedic Diseases. I've heard that

BMA/BMB aren't 'really necessary' if RT-PCR Testing is done except

when this blood test changes or for BMT consideration. " I am not a

doctor have not portrayed one on TV , nor do I aspire to be a

physician in another life " . This is FYI/my 2 cents only. . . " K "

>

> " K "

> " I AIN'T FINISHED YET " !!!

>

>

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Hey!!!!! They never grabbed my butt!!! I got robbed!! lol

Sharon

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Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 1353

The real reason Bobby has had so many is that she likes these docs

grabbing her butt!!!!!

Bob , Granger, IN

> Hey Group. . .

>

> I've only had 1 BMB/BMA on 11/21/2003 during diagnosis and will not

have another due to Chronic Orthopedic Diseases. I've heard that

BMA/BMB aren't 'really necessary' if RT-PCR Testing is done except

when this blood test changes or for BMT consideration. " I am not a

doctor have not portrayed one on TV , nor do I aspire to be a

physician in another life " . This is FYI/my 2 cents only. . . " K "

>

> " K "

> " I AIN'T FINISHED YET " !!!

>

>

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Now Bob, these folks on this website don't know I'm a dirty ole lady, so you

take that back!!

<bob-stewart@...> wrote: The real reason Bobby has had

so many is that she likes these docs

grabbing her butt!!!!!

Bob , Granger, IN

> Hey Group. . .

>

> I've only had 1 BMB/BMA on 11/21/2003 during diagnosis and will not

have another due to Chronic Orthopedic Diseases. I've heard that

BMA/BMB aren't 'really necessary' if RT-PCR Testing is done except

when this blood test changes or for BMT consideration. " I am not a

doctor have not portrayed one on TV , nor do I aspire to be a

physician in another life " . This is FYI/my 2 cents only. . . " K "

>

> " K "

> " I AIN'T FINISHED YET " !!!

>

>

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