Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 The targeted agent Tasigna® (nilotinib) appears to be an effective treatment for patients with newly diagnosed chronic myeloid leukemia (CML). These results were recently presented at the 2008 annual meeting of the American Society of Clinical Oncology. http://www.caring4cancer.com/go/cancer/news?NewsItemId=42213 Visit this website. Sprycel effective for new patients with CML. http://www.caring4cancer.com/go/Cancer/news?NewsItemId=42221 __________________________________________________________________________ In recognition of the many voices that give this program resonance and meaning, Lilly Oncology presents the 2008 Lilly Oncology on Canvas Art Competition and Exhibition in partnership with the National Coalition for Cancer Survivorship. http://www.lillyoncologyoncanvas.com/2008_contest/index.jsp?WT.mc_id=LOOC_2008 & D\ CSext.campaignevent=bn_CancerConsultants Who Can Enter: Amateur artist or professional—people diagnosed with cancer, healthcare professionals, family members, friends and caregivers are all welcome to participate. The competition is open to residents of the U.S. and Puerto Rico. http://www.lillyoncologyoncanvas.com/2008_contest/entry.jsp Should you require guidance and information, please call or e-mail the art competition director, Anita Chernewski: Tel: 1-800-734-4131 E-mail: lillyoncologyoncanvas@... Best of Exibition winners a.. 1st prize winner (overall winner) = $10,000 donation b.. 2nd prize winner = $5,000 donation c.. 3rd prize winner = $2,500 donation Blessings, Lottie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 : If I eat and then take Tasigna, then I feel as if my body is struggling to process it, if that makes sense. I can just tell that I am not feeling right and it takes some time to get rid of that feeling. Yes, QT Prolongation is the biggest concern and that is why you need weekly EKG's done for your first month on the drug. Over time, you body will adjust and you will be better than ever. Just wait, you will see. Matt In a message dated 8/6/2008 8:53:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rodorbal@... writes: Hi Matt - thanks for the info, it is always good to get it first hand so to speak. I know that if you have food with Tasigna is a definite no no due to as you say, taking with food increases the absorption. I have a large glass of water with the capsule, so at least have a drink after 2 hours fasting. It's interesting with Glivec, that I never had a problem drinking alcohol with it and with Tasigna have only had 1 glass of wine so far, as with the cold I haven't felt like anything much. I hate grapefruit and it's juice, so no problem and never taken St s Wart. My haem't passed on all the info that Novartis sent him re contra indications, possible adverse effects etc as I am his first patient on Tasigna, so we will be learning together. It's great to have " thin " ankles again and eyes I can see out of! I was doing well on Glivec 200mg, but as I have only just had my first CML anniversary, it was felt it was too risky to continue on at this stage and I also had a low serum level. I am still taking my magnesium tablets as I know this can also be a problem with Tasigna. I have been on this drug 10 days now and it is a joy compared to Glivec and I have been able to stop taking diuretics and other medication I was taking for the migraines I was experiencing. Dr Tim our leading CML specialist told me that if you were to eat a fatty meal without fasting on Tasigna, that possible side effects could affect the heart (QT prolongation)affect the heart (QT prolongation)<WB experience issues with pancreas and rises in serum amylase, lipase etc. I had a base line ECG and that was fine and my haem't is monitoring that closely. When you say " I can tell if I eat and then take Tasigna that it is more potent, but not as much afterward " , what sort of side effects do you get? Regards, from Downunder From: _@..._ (mailto: ) [mailto:_@..._ (mailto: ) ] On Behalf Of _mtmaynor@..._ (mailto:mtmaynor@...) Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2008 10:09 PM _@..._ (mailto: ) Subject: Re: [ ] tasigna : Regarding your Tasigna question. According to my oncologist, they want you to have an empty stomach, so liquids or solids are supposed to be kept to a minimum. It has to do with the absorption and efficacy in your system, from what I understand. A full stomach increases the potency and thus can trigger heart or organ issues. For me, it seems that the no food two hours before is the most important. I can tell if I eat and then take Tasigna that it is more potent, but not as much afterward. Just like Gleevec, you will find the things that work and do not work for you. The standard things to watch on Gleevec, you also need to watch on Tasigna including Tylenol, St. s Wart and Grapefruit Juice, to name just a few. A lot of people find, especially after loose stools from Gleevec, that they have constipation (a shock to your system, especially if you have been on Gleevec for several years) so I take my doses with a half of a glass of Metamucil and I have no problems. Another thing to watch out for is middle back pain. This may be a sign of high Lipase, which is a concern of toxicity in your pancreas, which I experienced early on as I made the adjustment. You should call your Oncologist if this occurs. One thing that I found on Tasigna was that I could drink, which I really could not on Gleevec. So maybe you have that to look forward to. I hope Tasigna works well for you. Matt Florida CML Army Zero Club Number Misplaced In a message dated 8/6/2008 4:55:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _rodorbal@..._ (mailto:rodorbal@...) <mailto:rodorbal%mailto:rodmailto> writes: Hi everyone, I commenced Tasigna last week - 400mg once a day and will commence 200mg tonight, working my way up to 400mg. After the very unlovely side effects of Glivec, I am hesitant about going up to " full " strength without a lead in and my haem/t has been very supportive of this. So far I have tolerated 400mg with no problems, except that I have the worse head cold I have had in years, which was developing before I started taking Tasigna. Just a question for the more experienced - when fasting at night, can you still have water? I hate to think what it will be like come summer if I can't have any water for 3 hours! I was going to start last night, then forgot to take the capsule at 7pm, so as we had family around to celebrate my daughter's birthday, I didn't take it last night. I can see I am going to need to be very disciplined, which I am not as I would often forget to take my Glivec at teatime and take later in the night. 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Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 You are welcome, but hopefully others who have more experience than I am will way in as well. My first dose is when I get up in the morning so my stomach is very empty then, it is the second dose that is always tricky. I am usually working, so I do not have a chance to snack in the afternoon, so my second dose is usually around five, which puts me at least an hour before dinner. While it is not a problem waiting an hour to eat, sometimes I find I do need to eat at the one hour point, or I start to feel bad, but it may not be that way for you. Usually five or six saltines, or Wheat Things (my choice) are good. Matt In a message dated 8/6/2008 9:38:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rodorbal@... writes: Thanks Matt. I'll just keep crossing my fingers that no side effects pop up! Regards, from Down Under From: _@..._ (mailto: ) [mailto:_@..._ (mailto: ) ] On Behalf Of _mtmaynor@..._ (mailto:mtmaynor@...) Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2008 11:22 PM _@..._ (mailto: ) Subject: Re: [ ] tasigna : If I eat and then take Tasigna, then I feel as if my body is struggling to process it, if that makes sense. I can just tell that I am not feeling right and it takes some time to get rid of that feeling. Yes, QT Prolongation is the biggest concern and that is why you need weekly EKG's done for your first month on the drug. Over time, you body will adjust and you will be better than ever. Just wait, you will see. Matt In a message dated 8/6/2008 8:53:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _rodorbal@..._ (mailto:rodorbal@...) <mailto:rodorbal%mailto:rodmailto> writes: Hi Matt - thanks for the info, it is always good to get it first hand so to speak. I know that if you have food with Tasigna is a definite no no due to as you say, taking with food increases the absorption. I have a large glass of water with the capsule, so at least have a drink after 2 hours fasting. It's interesting with Glivec, that I never had a problem drinking alcohol with it and with Tasigna have only had 1 glass of wine so far, as with the cold I haven't felt like anything much. I hate grapefruit and it's juice, so no problem and never taken St s Wart. My haem't passed on all the info that Novartis sent him re contra indications, possible adverse effects etc as I am his first patient on Tasigna, so we will be learning together. It's great to have " thin " ankles again and eyes I can see out of! I was doing well on Glivec 200mg, but as I have only just had my first CML anniversary, it was felt it was too risky to continue on at this stage and I also had a low serum level. I am still taking my magnesium tablets as I know this can also be a problem with Tasigna. I have been on this drug 10 days now and it is a joy compared to Glivec and I have been able to stop taking diuretics and other medication I was taking for the migraines I was experiencing. Dr Tim our leading CML specialist told me that if you were to eat a fatty meal without fasting on Tasigna, that possible side effects could affect the heart (QT prolongation)affect the heart (QT prolongation)<WBR<WB experience issues with pancreas and rises in serum amylase, lipase etc. I had a base line ECG and that was fine and my haem't is monitoring that closely. When you say " I can tell if I eat and then take Tasigna that it is more potent, but not as much afterward " , what sort of side effects do you get? Regards, from Downunder From: __groups (DOT) _CM_ (mailto:_@...) <mailto:_%mailto:_%mai> _ (mailto:_@..._ (mailto: ) <mailto:%mailto:%<Wmai> ) [mailto:__groups (DOT) _CM_ (mailto:_@...) <mailto:_%mailto:_%mai> _ (mailto:_@..._ (mailto: ) <mailto:%mailto:%<Wmai> ) ] On Behalf Of __mtmaynoraol (DOT) _mt_ (mailto:_mtmaynor@...) <mailto:_mtmaynor%mailto:_m> _ (mailto:_mtmaynor@..._ (mailto:mtmaynor@...) <mailto:mtmaynor%mailto:mt> ) Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2008 10:09 PM __groups (DOT) _CM_ (mailto:_@...) <mailto:_%mailto:_%mai> _ (mailto:_@..._ (mailto: ) <mailto:%mailto:%<Wmai> ) Subject: Re: [ ] tasigna : Regarding your Tasigna question. According to my oncologist, they want you to have an empty stomach, so liquids or solids are supposed to be kept to a minimum. It has to do with the absorption and efficacy in your system, from what I understand. A full stomach increases the potency and thus can trigger heart or organ issues. For me, it seems that the no food two hours before is the most important. I can tell if I eat and then take Tasigna that it is more potent, but not as much afterward. Just like Gleevec, you will find the things that work and do not work for you. The standard things to watch on Gleevec, you also need to watch on Tasigna including Tylenol, St. s Wart and Grapefruit Juice, to name just a few. A lot of people find, especially after loose stools from Gleevec, that they have constipation (a shock to your system, especially if you have been on Gleevec for several years) so I take my doses with a half of a glass of Metamucil and I have no problems. Another thing to watch out for is middle back pain. This may be a sign of high Lipase, which is a concern of toxicity in your pancreas, which I experienced early on as I made the adjustment. You should call your Oncologist if this occurs. One thing that I found on Tasigna was that I could drink, which I really could not on Gleevec. So maybe you have that to look forward to. I hope Tasigna works well for you. Matt Florida CML Army Zero Club Number Misplaced In a message dated 8/6/2008 4:55:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, __rodorbalwestvic (DOT) _rodor_ (mailto:_rodorbal@...) <mailto:_rodorbal%mailto:_romailto> _ (mailto:_rodorbal@..._ (mailto:rodorbal@...) <mailto:rodorbal%mailto:rodmailto> ) <mailto:rodorbal%mailto:rodorbal%> writes: Hi everyone, I commenced Tasigna last week - 400mg once a day and will commence 200mg tonight, working my way up to 400mg. After the very unlovely side effects of Glivec, I am hesitant about going up to " full " strength without a lead in and my haem/t has been very supportive of this. So far I have tolerated 400mg with no problems, except that I have the worse head cold I have had in years, which was developing before I started taking Tasigna. Just a question for the more experienced - when fasting at night, can you still have water? I hate to think what it will be like come summer if I can't have any water for 3 hours! I was going to start last night, then forgot to take the capsule at 7pm, so as we had family around to celebrate my daughter's birthday, I didn't take it last night. I can see I am going to need to be very disciplined, which I am not as I would often forget to take my Glivec at teatime and take later in the night. 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Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Thanks Matt. I'll just keep crossing my fingers that no side effects pop up! Regards, from Down Under From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of mtmaynor@... Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2008 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [ ] tasigna : If I eat and then take Tasigna, then I feel as if my body is struggling to process it, if that makes sense. I can just tell that I am not feeling right and it takes some time to get rid of that feeling. Yes, QT Prolongation is the biggest concern and that is why you need weekly EKG's done for your first month on the drug. Over time, you body will adjust and you will be better than ever. Just wait, you will see. Matt In a message dated 8/6/2008 8:53:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rodorbal@... <mailto:rodorbal%40westvic.com.au> writes: Hi Matt - thanks for the info, it is always good to get it first hand so to speak. I know that if you have food with Tasigna is a definite no no due to as you say, taking with food increases the absorption. I have a large glass of water with the capsule, so at least have a drink after 2 hours fasting. It's interesting with Glivec, that I never had a problem drinking alcohol with it and with Tasigna have only had 1 glass of wine so far, as with the cold I haven't felt like anything much. I hate grapefruit and it's juice, so no problem and never taken St s Wart. My haem't passed on all the info that Novartis sent him re contra indications, possible adverse effects etc as I am his first patient on Tasigna, so we will be learning together. It's great to have " thin " ankles again and eyes I can see out of! I was doing well on Glivec 200mg, but as I have only just had my first CML anniversary, it was felt it was too risky to continue on at this stage and I also had a low serum level. I am still taking my magnesium tablets as I know this can also be a problem with Tasigna. I have been on this drug 10 days now and it is a joy compared to Glivec and I have been able to stop taking diuretics and other medication I was taking for the migraines I was experiencing. Dr Tim our leading CML specialist told me that if you were to eat a fatty meal without fasting on Tasigna, that possible side effects could affect the heart (QT prolongation)affect the heart (QT prolongation)<WB experience issues with pancreas and rises in serum amylase, lipase etc. I had a base line ECG and that was fine and my haem't is monitoring that closely. When you say " I can tell if I eat and then take Tasigna that it is more potent, but not as much afterward " , what sort of side effects do you get? Regards, from Downunder From: _@... <mailto:_%40groups.CML> _ (mailto: <mailto:%40> ) [mailto:_@... <mailto:_%40groups.CML> _ (mailto: <mailto:%40> ) ] On Behalf Of _mtmaynor@... <mailto:_mtmaynor%40aol.mtm> _ (mailto:mtmaynor@... <mailto:mtmaynor%40aol.com> ) Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2008 10:09 PM _@... <mailto:_%40groups.CML> _ (mailto: <mailto:%40> ) Subject: Re: [ ] tasigna : Regarding your Tasigna question. According to my oncologist, they want you to have an empty stomach, so liquids or solids are supposed to be kept to a minimum. It has to do with the absorption and efficacy in your system, from what I understand. A full stomach increases the potency and thus can trigger heart or organ issues. For me, it seems that the no food two hours before is the most important. I can tell if I eat and then take Tasigna that it is more potent, but not as much afterward. Just like Gleevec, you will find the things that work and do not work for you. The standard things to watch on Gleevec, you also need to watch on Tasigna including Tylenol, St. s Wart and Grapefruit Juice, to name just a few. A lot of people find, especially after loose stools from Gleevec, that they have constipation (a shock to your system, especially if you have been on Gleevec for several years) so I take my doses with a half of a glass of Metamucil and I have no problems. Another thing to watch out for is middle back pain. This may be a sign of high Lipase, which is a concern of toxicity in your pancreas, which I experienced early on as I made the adjustment. You should call your Oncologist if this occurs. One thing that I found on Tasigna was that I could drink, which I really could not on Gleevec. So maybe you have that to look forward to. I hope Tasigna works well for you. Matt Florida CML Army Zero Club Number Misplaced In a message dated 8/6/2008 4:55:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _rodorbal@... <mailto:_rodorbal%40westvic.rodorb> _ (mailto:rodorbal@... <mailto:rodorbal%40westvic.com.au> ) <mailto:rodorbal%mailto:rodmailto> writes: Hi everyone, I commenced Tasigna last week - 400mg once a day and will commence 200mg tonight, working my way up to 400mg. After the very unlovely side effects of Glivec, I am hesitant about going up to " full " strength without a lead in and my haem/t has been very supportive of this. So far I have tolerated 400mg with no problems, except that I have the worse head cold I have had in years, which was developing before I started taking Tasigna. Just a question for the more experienced - when fasting at night, can you still have water? I hate to think what it will be like come summer if I can't have any water for 3 hours! I was going to start last night, then forgot to take the capsule at 7pm, so as we had family around to celebrate my daughter's birthday, I didn't take it last night. I can see I am going to need to be very disciplined, which I am not as I would often forget to take my Glivec at teatime and take later in the night. 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Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Hi , I have been on Tasigna now for a little over 5 months. 157 days to be exact. I keep track on my calendar. I, like you had unlovely side effects from glivec and then with sprycel. So now I am on Tasigna. When I started I started on 400mg., because like you I was so afraid of side effects. My PCR was 0.011 at the time and that was because I was off all meds for almost a month prior to starting Tasigna. I had absolutely no side effects with Tasigna. Maybe a little weight gain but I contribute that to overeating which maybe the Tasigna made me have an over active appitite. Anyway, this is what I decided to do. I get up almost every morning to go to the bathroom anyway-about 5am. So I have my pills in the bathroom and I take the two 200mg pills at that time and go back to bed so that when I get up at 7am, I can have my coffee. I love my morning coffee. So then I went for another PCR about a month ago and it was 0.032. so they increased my Tasigna another 200mg. and this one I take about 5pm. I try to remember to stop eating at 3pm so that my stomach is empty at 5pm when I take the pill. Then I do not eat until 7pm. The rule, that I understand, is take Tasigna on an empty stomach 1 hour before you eat or two hours after. But to be safe I do it 2 hours before I eat. So I have been on 600mg for a month and today I go in for another PCR to see how I am doing. I am hoping that the results are good. If not they will have me take another 200mg. About water: I feel yes you can have water-you take the pill with water so I am sure it is ok to drink water. They say FOOD. Although I would not drink anything else. I have no side effects on 600mg. Nice to hear fron another person on Tasigna. There are a few of us here. Take care Aloha Sharon T _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Malseed Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:55 AM Subject: [ ] tasigna Hi everyone, I commenced Tasigna last week - 400mg once a day and will commence 200mg tonight, working my way up to 400mg. After the very unlovely side effects of Glivec, I am hesitant about going up to " full " strength without a lead in and my haem/t has been very supportive of this. So far I have tolerated 400mg with no problems, except that I have the worse head cold I have had in years, which was developing before I started taking Tasigna. Just a question for the more experienced - when fasting at night, can you still have water? I hate to think what it will be like come summer if I can't have any water for 3 hours! I was going to start last night, then forgot to take the capsule at 7pm, so as we had family around to celebrate my daughter's birthday, I didn't take it last night. I can see I am going to need to be very disciplined, which I am not as I would often forget to take my Glivec at teatime and take later in the night. Regards, from Down Under Rodorbal Labradors Australia <http://www.rodorbal <http://www.rodorbal.com> .com> www.rodorbal.com <http://au.groups. <http://au./group/Ozlabradors/> /group/Ozlabradors/> http://au.groups. <http://au./group/Ozlabradors/> /group/Ozlabradors/ <http://www.labradat <http://www.labradata.org> a.org> www.labradata.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Hi Matt and Bobby, I do not participate much verbally to this site but I do read most of the posts. It is always good to hear from other Tasigna people. I have tolerated my 600mg very well. 400 in the morning and 2 in the evening. Today I have an appointment for a PCR to see how I am doing on 600mg. I hope well. Are both of you PCRU???? I hope so. My last test a month ago showed me at 0.032-up a little But so many of you out there said that was not terrible and not to worry. I do not know what I would do without all of you. But I must say --- on 600mg---I feel great. No side effects except for weight gain. But I think that is my fault. Not Tasigna. I am only 5 ft and every little pound shows on me. Aloha Sharon T _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of mtmaynor@... Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [ ] tasigna You are welcome, but hopefully others who have more experience than I am will way in as well. My first dose is when I get up in the morning so my stomach is very empty then, it is the second dose that is always tricky. I am usually working, so I do not have a chance to snack in the afternoon, so my second dose is usually around five, which puts me at least an hour before dinner. While it is not a problem waiting an hour to eat, sometimes I find I do need to eat at the one hour point, or I start to feel bad, but it may not be that way for you. Usually five or six saltines, or Wheat Things (my choice) are good. Matt In a message dated 8/6/2008 9:38:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rodorbalwestvic (DOT) <mailto:rodorbal%40westvic.com.au> com.au writes: Thanks Matt. I'll just keep crossing my fingers that no side effects pop up! Regards, from Down Under From: _groups (DOT) <mailto:_%40groups.CML> CML_ (mailto:groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com) [mailto:_groups (DOT) <mailto:_%40groups.CML> CML_ (mailto:groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com) ] On Behalf Of _mtmaynoraol (DOT) <mailto:_mtmaynor%40aol.mtm> mtm_ (mailto:mtmaynoraol (DOT) <mailto:mtmaynor%40aol.com> com) Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2008 11:22 PM _groups (DOT) <mailto:_%40groups.CML> CML_ (mailto:groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com) Subject: Re: [ ] tasigna : If I eat and then take Tasigna, then I feel as if my body is struggling to process it, if that makes sense. I can just tell that I am not feeling right and it takes some time to get rid of that feeling. Yes, QT Prolongation is the biggest concern and that is why you need weekly EKG's done for your first month on the drug. Over time, you body will adjust and you will be better than ever. Just wait, you will see. Matt In a message dated 8/6/2008 8:53:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _rodorbalwestvic (DOT) <mailto:_rodorbal%40westvic.rodorb> rodorb_ (mailto:rodorbalwestvic (DOT) <mailto:rodorbal%40westvic.com.au> com.au) <mailto:rodorbal%mailto:rodmailto> writes: Hi Matt - thanks for the info, it is always good to get it first hand so to speak. I know that if you have food with Tasigna is a definite no no due to as you say, taking with food increases the absorption. I have a large glass of water with the capsule, so at least have a drink after 2 hours fasting. It's interesting with Glivec, that I never had a problem drinking alcohol with it and with Tasigna have only had 1 glass of wine so far, as with the cold I haven't felt like anything much. I hate grapefruit and it's juice, so no problem and never taken St s Wart. My haem't passed on all the info that Novartis sent him re contra indications, possible adverse effects etc as I am his first patient on Tasigna, so we will be learning together. It's great to have " thin " ankles again and eyes I can see out of! I was doing well on Glivec 200mg, but as I have only just had my first CML anniversary, it was felt it was too risky to continue on at this stage and I also had a low serum level. I am still taking my magnesium tablets as I know this can also be a problem with Tasigna. I have been on this drug 10 days now and it is a joy compared to Glivec and I have been able to stop taking diuretics and other medication I was taking for the migraines I was experiencing. Dr Tim our leading CML specialist told me that if you were to eat a fatty meal without fasting on Tasigna, that possible side effects could affect the heart (QT prolongation)affect the heart (QT prolongation)<WBR<WB experience issues with pancreas and rises in serum amylase, lipase etc. I had a base line ECG and that was fine and my haem't is monitoring that closely. When you say " I can tell if I eat and then take Tasigna that it is more potent, but not as much afterward " , what sort of side effects do you get? Regards, from Downunder From: __groups (DOT) _CM_ (mailto:_groups (DOT) <mailto:_%40groups.CML> CML) <mailto:_%mailto:_%mai> _ (mailto:_groups (DOT) <mailto:_%40groups.CML> CML_ (mailto:groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com) <mailto:%mailto:%<Wmai> ) [mailto:__groups (DOT) _CM_ (mailto:_groups (DOT) <mailto:_%40groups.CML> CML) <mailto:_%mailto:_%mai> _ (mailto:_groups (DOT) <mailto:_%40groups.CML> CML_ (mailto:groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com) <mailto:%mailto:%<Wmai> ) ] On Behalf Of __mtmaynoraol (DOT) _mt_ (mailto:_mtmaynoraol (DOT) <mailto:_mtmaynor%40aol.mtm> mtm) <mailto:_mtmaynor%mailto:_m> _ (mailto:_mtmaynoraol (DOT) <mailto:_mtmaynor%40aol.mtm> mtm_ (mailto:mtmaynoraol (DOT) <mailto:mtmaynor%40aol.com> com) <mailto:mtmaynor%mailto:mt> ) Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2008 10:09 PM __groups (DOT) _CM_ (mailto:_groups (DOT) <mailto:_%40groups.CML> CML) <mailto:_%mailto:_%mai> _ (mailto:_groups (DOT) <mailto:_%40groups.CML> CML_ (mailto:groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com) <mailto:%mailto:%<Wmai> ) Subject: Re: [ ] tasigna : Regarding your Tasigna question. According to my oncologist, they want you to have an empty stomach, so liquids or solids are supposed to be kept to a minimum. It has to do with the absorption and efficacy in your system, from what I understand. A full stomach increases the potency and thus can trigger heart or organ issues. For me, it seems that the no food two hours before is the most important. I can tell if I eat and then take Tasigna that it is more potent, but not as much afterward. Just like Gleevec, you will find the things that work and do not work for you. The standard things to watch on Gleevec, you also need to watch on Tasigna including Tylenol, St. s Wart and Grapefruit Juice, to name just a few. A lot of people find, especially after loose stools from Gleevec, that they have constipation (a shock to your system, especially if you have been on Gleevec for several years) so I take my doses with a half of a glass of Metamucil and I have no problems. Another thing to watch out for is middle back pain. This may be a sign of high Lipase, which is a concern of toxicity in your pancreas, which I experienced early on as I made the adjustment. You should call your Oncologist if this occurs. One thing that I found on Tasigna was that I could drink, which I really could not on Gleevec. So maybe you have that to look forward to. I hope Tasigna works well for you. Matt Florida CML Army Zero Club Number Misplaced In a message dated 8/6/2008 4:55:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, __rodorbalwestvic (DOT) _rodor_ (mailto:_rodorbalwestvic (DOT) <mailto:_rodorbal%40westvic.rodorb> rodorb) <mailto:_rodorbal%mailto:_romailto> _ (mailto:_rodorbalwestvic (DOT) <mailto:_rodorbal%40westvic.rodorb> rodorb_ (mailto:rodorbalwestvic (DOT) <mailto:rodorbal%40westvic.com.au> com.au) <mailto:rodorbal%mailto:rodmailto> ) <mailto:rodorbal%mailto:rodorbal%> writes: Hi everyone, I commenced Tasigna last week - 400mg once a day and will commence 200mg tonight, working my way up to 400mg. After the very unlovely side effects of Glivec, I am hesitant about going up to " full " strength without a lead in and my haem/t has been very supportive of this. So far I have tolerated 400mg with no problems, except that I have the worse head cold I have had in years, which was developing before I started taking Tasigna. Just a question for the more experienced - when fasting at night, can you still have water? I hate to think what it will be like come summer if I can't have any water for 3 hours! I was going to start last night, then forgot to take the capsule at 7pm, so as we had family around to celebrate my daughter's birthday, I didn't take it last night. I can see I am going to need to be very disciplined, which I am not as I would often forget to take my Glivec at teatime and take later in the night. 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Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Thank you, my friend.? It is good to be back in the fold.? When I moved offices, I lost my entire ACT! data base, which included my number. Matt Number 1078 in the Zero Club Florida DX in January of 2005 RE: [ ] tasigna Number found O!!!!!! YIPPEEE!!! Number 1078 in the Zero Club Zavie Matt Florida CML Army Zero Club Number Misplaced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 I did not reach complete PCRU on Gleevec, but within 60 days of taking Tasigna I did. Matt Number 1078 in the Zero Club Re: [ ] tasigna : Regarding your Tasigna question. According to my oncologist, they want you to have an empty stomach, so liquids or solids are supposed to be kept to a minimum. It has to do with the absorption and efficacy in your system, from what I understand. A full stomach increases the potency and thus can trigger heart or organ issues. For me, it seems that the no food two hours before is the most important. I can tell if I eat and then take Tasigna that it is more potent, but not as much afterward. Just like Gleevec, you will find the things that work and do not work for you. The standard things to watch on Gleevec, you also need to watch on Tasigna including Tylenol, St. s Wart and Grapefruit Juice, to name just a few. A lot of people find, especially after loose stools from Gleevec, that they have constipation (a shock to your system, especially if you have been on Gleevec for several years) so I take my doses with a half of a glass of Metamucil and I have no problems. Another thing to watch out for is middle back pain. This may be a sign of high Lipase, which is a concern of toxicity in your pancreas, which I experienced early on as I made the adjustment. You should call your Oncologist if this occurs. One thing that I found on Tasigna was that I could drink, which I really could not on Gleevec. So maybe you have that to look forward to. I hope Tasigna works well for you. Matt Florida CML Army Zero Club Number Misplaced In a message dated 8/6/2008 4:55:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, __rodorbalwestvic (DOT) _rodor_ (mailto:_rodorbalwestvic (DOT) <mailto:_rodorbal%40westvic.rodorb> rodorb) <mailto:_rodorbal%mailto:_romailto> _ (mailto:_rodorbalwestvic (DOT) <mailto:_rodorbal%40westvic.rodorb> rodorb_ (mailto:rodorbalwestvic (DOT) <mailto:rodorbal%40westvic.com.au> com.au) <mailto:rodorbal%mailto:rodmailto> ) <mailto:rodorbal%mailto:rodorbal%> writes: Hi everyone, I commenced Tasigna last week - 400mg once a day and will commence 200mg tonight, working my way up to 400mg. After the very unlovely side effects of Glivec, I am hesitant about going up to " full " strength without a lead in and my haem/t has been very supportive of this. So far I have tolerated 400mg with no problems, except that I have the worse head cold I have had in years, which was developing before I started taking Tasigna. Just a question for the more experienced - when fasting at night, can you still have water? I hate to think what it will be like come summer if I can't have any water for 3 hours! I was going to start last night, then forgot to take the capsule at 7pm, so as we had family around to celebrate my daughter's birthday, I didn't take it last night. I can see I am going to need to be very disciplined, which I am not as I would often forget to take my Glivec at teatime and take later in the night. 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Guest guest Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Hi Sharon, We can nearly have our own little club now LOL. With Tasigna I am taking it at 6.30 -7am when I get up, w/e often 8am, then in pm, start fasting at 5pm, take meds at 7pm and eat at 8pm. I guess if I need to could have a little earlier. Will be good for the diet as I tend to pick a little when I get home from work around 6pm, so will be a definite " no no " . I'm more concerned I can't have a cup of tea for 3 hours! It's been great giving the feedback from this group to my haem/t as he was very receptive to commencing on the lower dose initially. When I think of my first 10 days on Glivec - I wouldn't know I am even taking anything with Tasigna....just wonderful! Regards, from Down Under From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sharon & Denny Sent: Thursday, 7 August 2008 12:29 AM Subject: RE: [ ] tasigna Hi , I have been on Tasigna now for a little over 5 months. 157 days to be exact. I keep track on my calendar. I, like you had unlovely side effects from glivec and then with sprycel. So now I am on Tasigna. When I started I started on 400mg., because like you I was so afraid of side effects. My PCR was 0.011 at the time and that was because I was off all meds for almost a month prior to starting Tasigna. I had absolutely no side effects with Tasigna. Maybe a little weight gain but I contribute that to overeating which maybe the Tasigna made me have an over active appitite. Anyway, this is what I decided to do. I get up almost every morning to go to the bathroom anyway-about 5am. So I have my pills in the bathroom and I take the two 200mg pills at that time and go back to bed so that when I get up at 7am, I can have my coffee. I love my morning coffee. So then I went for another PCR about a month ago and it was 0.032. so they increased my Tasigna another 200mg. and this one I take about 5pm. I try to remember to stop eating at 3pm so that my stomach is empty at 5pm when I take the pill. Then I do not eat until 7pm. The rule, that I understand, is take Tasigna on an empty stomach 1 hour before you eat or two hours after. But to be safe I do it 2 hours before I eat. So I have been on 600mg for a month and today I go in for another PCR to see how I am doing. I am hoping that the results are good. If not they will have me take another 200mg. About water: I feel yes you can have water-you take the pill with water so I am sure it is ok to drink water. They say FOOD. Although I would not drink anything else. I have no side effects on 600mg. Nice to hear fron another person on Tasigna. There are a few of us here. Take care Aloha Sharon T _____ From: <mailto:%40> [mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of Malseed Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:55 AM <mailto:%40> Subject: [ ] tasigna Hi everyone, I commenced Tasigna last week - 400mg once a day and will commence 200mg tonight, working my way up to 400mg. After the very unlovely side effects of Glivec, I am hesitant about going up to " full " strength without a lead in and my haem/t has been very supportive of this. So far I have tolerated 400mg with no problems, except that I have the worse head cold I have had in years, which was developing before I started taking Tasigna. Just a question for the more experienced - when fasting at night, can you still have water? I hate to think what it will be like come summer if I can't have any water for 3 hours! I was going to start last night, then forgot to take the capsule at 7pm, so as we had family around to celebrate my daughter's birthday, I didn't take it last night. I can see I am going to need to be very disciplined, which I am not as I would often forget to take my Glivec at teatime and take later in the night. Regards, from Down Under Rodorbal Labradors Australia <http://www.rodorbal <http://www.rodorbal.com> .com> www.rodorbal.com <http://au.groups. <http://au./group/Ozlabradors/> /group/Ozlabradors/> http://au.groups. <http://au./group/Ozlabradors/> /group/Ozlabradors/ <http://www.labradat <http://www.labradata.org> a.org> www.labradata.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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