Guest guest Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 How are you guys making yogurt? I made some a couple of times when I first got my Excalibur and using the powdered milk it called for gave me yogurt with that gross powdered milk taste. Cheers, Lynne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 I don't use powdered milk in my yogurt-most powdered milk is full of GMO soy and other fillers. The main purpose of powdered milk in most yogurt recipes is just to serve as a thickener and stabilizer, but you can get the same effect for thickening by just double or triple straining the made yogurt through a cheesecloth, jelly bag or coffee filter, so you are left with " greek style " thick yogurt (the runoff is great in baking, sauces, smoothies, or frozen in to cubes to use in ice cream, etc. You can also add a little cooked tapioca, chia or flax to yogurt to thicken it. I use raw milk, but I am sure the same rules apply to regular milk, although my understanding is that pasteurized milk doesn't respond quite the same as raw. > > How are you guys making yogurt? I made some a couple of times when I first got my Excalibur and using the powdered milk it called for gave me yogurt with that gross powdered milk taste. > > Cheers, > Lynne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Again with the powdered milk. Why? What would happen if I didn't use it? Lynne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 I personally would never use powdered milk for anything, especially my yogurt. Powdered milk is full of soy (GMO soy at that) and has " anti caking agents " (often unlabeled) Powdered milk in most recipes is meant to be used as a thickener-I prefer just straining for thickness, or adding something more natural than adulterated milk. > > Again with the powdered milk. Why? What would happen if I didn't use it? > > Lynne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 I wasn't sure why the Excalibur yogurt recipe called for dried milk. I didn't want mine to not set up cause I left out something important. Lynne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Most recipes seem to call for dried milk, but I have never used it. I suggest just adding an extra spoonful of starter culture-that has always worked well for me. > > I wasn't sure why the Excalibur yogurt recipe called for dried milk. I didn't want mine to not set up cause I left out something important. > > Lynne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Lynn, I only made yogurt once and I used raw milk and no powdered milk and it turned out BEAUTIFULLY. It was like a loose somewhat thin yogurt, but I strained it through a cheesecloth and it was like the most amazing greek style yogurt after some of the whey drained out.It was quite a while ago and I'm so sorry that I didn't bookmark the page I found on the Internet to follow instructions from, but I just wanted to let you know that it can be done without powdered milk. Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)www.BlenderLady.com(AKA the Vitamix Lady :-)<))>< On Jun 4, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Lynne Miles wrote: I wasn't sure why the Excalibur yogurt recipe called for dried milk. I didn't want mine to not set up cause I left out something important. Lynne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Yes, I do have more info than what they provide (they are intentionally vague) Notice the first ingredient " skim milk powder " -it contains soy. You can't just dehydrate milk to make a powder-it needs other things added to manipulate it in to a powder. Vitamin A palmitate is a synthetically derived acetate-totally synthetic,, and contains corn/wheat/soy ingredients. Vitamin D3 is actually a calciferol that is a steroid base (the " vitamin D " in commercial milk is also a steroid). Companies are not required to label anything that makes up less than 2% of the ingredients in products, nor are they required to list the ingredients IN ingredients that are labeled (such as just calling it vitamin A, rather than saying what that " vitamin A actually is or is made from) If you call customer service at Carnation, or any other brand, the first person you talk to will likely gloss over it, but if you push them, you can get better info, although still vague-most companies that buy bulk " vitamins " have no clue what the source of them are! I am like a canary in a coal mine-I have had extreme allergic reactions to unlabeled or mislabeled things, and I KNEW soy was a culprit for me in powdered milk years ago, so I did some research on it. Somewhere, I have an email from a company-may have been Carnation, but I am thinking it might be PET, but they finally revealved that other things than what is on the label are in their " powdered milk " > >> Again with the powdered milk. Why? What would happen if I didn't use it? > >> > >> Lynne > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Please bookmark these pages: > > > > /links/ > > (this is the Links page where I save the answers to FAQs and Answers, Recipes, and LOTS of other helpful information - this page is always being added to) > > > > /links/IMPORTANT_VitamixE\ nthusiasts_Membership__001327149393/ > > PLEASE DON'T UNSUBSCRIBE IF YOU ARE GETTING TOO MUCH MAIL! (if you unsubscribe, you will lose access to the Links page - an Encyclopedia of Collected Vitamix Wisdom! Go to this link to learn how to stop mail from coming, but STILL be a member of the group so you can STILL visit the Links page and read messages online! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Thank you all for you input on the powdered milk and making yogurt. I'll try again without it. I eat yogurt pretty much every day. If it's not in one of my Vitamix smoothies it's with some cereal. It's really helped me gain control of my health. Making my own will be fun and I'll be more in control of what goes in it. Lynne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Wow, I did not know any of this, - thanks for posting, as I must avoid soy with thyroid issues!Ginny From: <berrywell@...> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Dehydrators - yogurt? Yes, I do have more info than what they provide (they are intentionally vague) Notice the first ingredient "skim milk powder"-it contains soy. You can't just dehydrate milk to make a powder-it needs other things added to manipulate it in to a powder. Vitamin A palmitate is a synthetically derived acetate-totally synthetic,, and contains corn/wheat/soy ingredients. Vitamin D3 is actually a calciferol that is a steroid base (the "vitamin D" in commercial milk is also a steroid). Companies are not required to label anything that makes up less than 2% of the ingredients in products, nor are they required to list the ingredients IN ingredients that are labeled (such as just calling it vitamin A, rather than saying what that "vitamin A actually is or is made from) If you call customer service at Carnation, or any other brand, the first person you talk to will likely gloss over it, but if you push them, you can get better info, although still vague-most companies that buy bulk "vitamins" have no clue what the source of them are! I am like a canary in a coal mine-I have had extreme allergic reactions to unlabeled or mislabeled things, and I KNEW soy was a culprit for me in powdered milk years ago, so I did some research on it. Somewhere, I have an email from a company-may have been Carnation, but I am thinking it might be PET, but they finally revealved that other things than what is on the label are in their "powdered milk" > >> Again with the powdered milk. Why? What would happen if I didn't use it? > >> > >> Lynne > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Please bookmark these pages: > > > > /links/ > > (this is the Links page where I save the answers to FAQs and Answers, Recipes, and LOTS of other helpful information - this page is always being added to) > > > > /links/IMPORTANT__Membership__001327149393/ > > PLEASE DON'T UNSUBSCRIBE IF YOU ARE GETTING TOO MUCH MAIL! (if you unsubscribe, you will lose access to the Links page - an Encyclopedia of Collected Vitamix Wisdom! Go to this link to learn how to stop mail from coming, but STILL be a member of the group so you can STILL visit the Links page and read messages online! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 I make yougurt every week, and find no need for powdered milk...Ginny From: <berrywell@...> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 3:39 PM Subject: Re: Dehydrators - yogurt? Most recipes seem to call for dried milk, but I have never used it. I suggest just adding an extra spoonful of starter culture-that has always worked well for me. > > I wasn't sure why the Excalibur yogurt recipe called for dried milk. I didn't want mine to not set up cause I left out something important. > > Lynne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 There is no doubt in my mind that you are right about them not telling us what is in their milk products. However, yes, skim milk can be spray dried without other things. Makes more sense for them economically however to add other stuff, to make it cheaper, keep it from clumping, etc. I have never understood why they remove " real " vitamins from stuff, then add back a few synthetics and call it good, such as in bread. Here is about the process: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powdered_milk On 6/4/2012 4:32 PM, wrote: > Yes, I do have more info than what they provide (they are intentionally vague) Notice the first ingredient " skim milk powder " -it contains soy. You can't just dehydrate milk to make a powder-it needs other things added to manipulate it in to a powder. Vitamin A palmitate is a synthetically derived acetate-totally synthetic,, and contains corn/wheat/soy ingredients. Vitamin D3 is actually a calciferol that is a steroid base (the " vitamin D " in commercial milk is also a steroid). Companies are not required to label anything that makes up less than 2% of the ingredients in products, nor are they required to list the ingredients IN ingredients that are labeled (such as just calling it vitamin A, rather than saying what that " vitamin A actually is or is made from) If you call customer service at Carnation, or any other brand, the first person you talk to will likely gloss over it, but if you push them, you can get better info, although still vague-most companies that buy bul! > k " vitamins " have no clue what the source of them are! I am like a canary in a coal mine-I have had extreme allergic reactions to unlabeled or mislabeled things, and I KNEW soy was a culprit for me in powdered milk years ago, so I did some research on it. Somewhere, I have an email from a company-may have been Carnation, but I am thinking it might be PET, but they finally revealved that other things than what is on the label are in their " powdered milk " > > > > > >>>> Again with the powdered milk. Why? What would happen if I didn't use it? >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Please bookmark these pages: >>> >>> /links/ >>> (this is the Links page where I save the answers to FAQs and Answers, Recipes, and LOTS of other helpful information - this page is always being added to) >>> >>> /links/IMPORTANT_VitamixE\ nthusiasts_Membership__001327149393/ >>> PLEASE DON'T UNSUBSCRIBE IF YOU ARE GETTING TOO MUCH MAIL! (if you unsubscribe, you will lose access to the Links page - an Encyclopedia of Collected Vitamix Wisdom! Go to this link to learn how to stop mail from coming, but STILL be a member of the group so you can STILL visit the Links page and read messages online! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 <<I personally would never use powdered milk for anything, especially my yogurt. Powdered milk is full of soy (GMO soy at that) and has " anti caking agents " (often unlabeled) Powdered milk in most recipes is meant to be used as a thickener-I prefer just straining for thickness, or adding something more natural than adulterated milk.>>There is NON-INSTANT powdered milk that has nothing but dehydrated skim milk. It is hard to find, but I used to use it in recipes all the time. It is sweet and I used it in place of sugar in some things...made a nice frosting for cinnamon rolls. I believe there are even organic version of the stuff. I wish I could find some nearby now...used to make a homemade Muesli cereal and add a little to the mix for sweetness. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Ginny what kind of yogurt maker do you use ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I have one that makes a large quantity (1/2 gal of milk), as I don't like the ones with little containers. I keep the yougurt in the container that it processes in, and take out what I want each day - it really works for me. I think it is called Yougourmet.Ginny From: crenita2 <crenita@...> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:45 AM Subject: Re: Dehydrators - yogurt? Ginny what kind of yogurt maker do you use ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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