Calcium

[Guest guest]

I wonder how much raw spinach you'd have to start with to make 8 cups

of cooked. Probaby several bushels, the way it shrinks up, LOL.

Although I like spinach, both cooked and raw, I wouldn't want to eat 8

cups. Sue

On Thursday, March 10, 2005, at 10:30 AM, karenkeeney wrote:

>

> These vegetables have the same amount of calcium as a glass of milk:

> • 1½ cups of cooked kale

> • 2¾ cups of cooked broccoli

> • 8 cups of cooked spinach

[Guest guest]

Almonds, Brazil nuts, pistachio nuts, sesame seeds, sunflower seeds & flax seeds

are good sources of calcium.

http://www.vegsoc.org/info/nutsseeds.html

Many people don't eat nuts because they are high in fat, but the fat

they contain are the good fats, so I am not concerned with the fat.

Almond milk is delicious and nutritious and is made by blending

almonds and water in a blender and then straining it. I can give

exact directions for anyone interested, but it's also available

already made in health food stores. Many people that are lactose

intolerant use almond milk in cereals etc. Rice milk is another

alternative.

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:49:26 -0000, along302003 <along3@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks for the information I am interested in trying to add some

> through my diet You said nuts and seeds were good choices for

> calsium what kinds Thanks for any help

>

> Thanks

> Angie

>

[Guest guest]

Almonds, Brazil nuts, pistachio nuts, sesame seeds, sunflower seeds & flax seeds

are good sources of calcium.

http://www.vegsoc.org/info/nutsseeds.html

Many people don't eat nuts because they are high in fat, but the fat

they contain are the good fats, so I am not concerned with the fat.

Almond milk is delicious and nutritious and is made by blending

almonds and water in a blender and then straining it. I can give

exact directions for anyone interested, but it's also available

already made in health food stores. Many people that are lactose

intolerant use almond milk in cereals etc. Rice milk is another

alternative.

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:49:26 -0000, along302003 <along3@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks for the information I am interested in trying to add some

> through my diet You said nuts and seeds were good choices for

> calsium what kinds Thanks for any help

>

> Thanks

> Angie

>

[Guest guest]

When kids are going casein free how do people supplement for the calcium? what

form? We gave Sammie calcium citrate and it seemed to bother her. I'm worried

about issues with bone growth down the road.

Thanks,

Re: Done with Enzymes--KAREN/DEVIN--anyone???

>>>I am wondering something---how do you know when a child does not

need enzymes anymore?

I tested my kids by taking them off enzymes every six months. They

each had noticeable signs of regression: older son banged his head on

the ground, younger son had constipation and headaches. We noticed

that they needs less and less enzymes over time. After a couple years

with enzymes regularly, my younger son did not *need* enzymes anymore

(meaning no more regression). It has been four yeast now, and it

looks like my older son does not *need* them anymore. We still give a

general one with about half the meals for maintenance (for good

health, better nutrition, and ensure the guts don't get messed up

again due to modern everyday living).

If your son is doing well, you might want to swith to a maintenance

type effort. I haven't heard of anyone becoming intolerant to

enzymes, but who knows?

Is he taking any other supplements besides the enzymes? Although you

haven't put anything new in the diet, it could be he does not need

some of his other supplements. If the enzymes are making the

supplements more absorbed, then dropping the enzymes may be reducing

the supplement uptake too...and thus the red disappears. This has

been reported before particularly with high B6...the B6 becomes a

problem because it is not needed at the high dose.

>>>>> However, my point is . . . how can you tell if their " insides "

are healed?

I asked a rep from Great Smokies about their intestinal permeability

test once. The guy said to say the money on the test and go with how

my son was reacting. If he seemed good, that would tell more than the

test.

Personally, I think it is very reasonable to have the goal of

eventually ending needed supplements, diets, and enzymes and even

other therapies. This indicates the gut is healthy and the person is

much healthier. We want things to improve. Gut healing is given a

time frame of 3-6 months for 'average' injury assuming the thing

injuring the gut is no longer there. For harder cases give it 12-18

months. My older son was significantly less sensitive to dairy at 5

months on enzymes (in the first frame). Although he needed some

enzymes for a few years afterwards, he wasn't doing other therapies

and he was quite 'recovered.' I don't mind giving enzymes at all but

it is still nice not to *have* to have them or risk a migraine. Gives

you some breathing room.

.

[Guest guest]

kirkman has powdered calcium that I use. 1/4 tsp.

On 11/30/05, jonathan cox <jjcox22@...> wrote:

>

> When kids are going casein free how do people supplement for the calcium?

> what form? We gave Sammie calcium citrate and it seemed to bother her. I'm

> worried about issues with bone growth down the road.

> Thanks,

>

> Re: Done with Enzymes--KAREN/DEVIN--anyone???

>

>

> >>>I am wondering something---how do you know when a child does not

> need enzymes anymore?

>

> I tested my kids by taking them off enzymes every six months. They

> each had noticeable signs of regression: older son banged his head on

> the ground, younger son had constipation and headaches. We noticed

> that they needs less and less enzymes over time. After a couple years

> with enzymes regularly, my younger son did not *need* enzymes anymore

> (meaning no more regression). It has been four yeast now, and it

> looks like my older son does not *need* them anymore. We still give a

> general one with about half the meals for maintenance (for good

> health, better nutrition, and ensure the guts don't get messed up

> again due to modern everyday living).

>

> If your son is doing well, you might want to swith to a maintenance

> type effort. I haven't heard of anyone becoming intolerant to

> enzymes, but who knows?

>

> Is he taking any other supplements besides the enzymes? Although you

> haven't put anything new in the diet, it could be he does not need

> some of his other supplements. If the enzymes are making the

> supplements more absorbed, then dropping the enzymes may be reducing

> the supplement uptake too...and thus the red disappears. This has

> been reported before particularly with high B6...the B6 becomes a

> problem because it is not needed at the high dose.

>

>

> >>>>> However, my point is . . . how can you tell if their " insides "

> are healed?

>

> I asked a rep from Great Smokies about their intestinal permeability

> test once. The guy said to say the money on the test and go with how

> my son was reacting. If he seemed good, that would tell more than the

> test.

>

> Personally, I think it is very reasonable to have the goal of

> eventually ending needed supplements, diets, and enzymes and even

> other therapies. This indicates the gut is healthy and the person is

> much healthier. We want things to improve. Gut healing is given a

> time frame of 3-6 months for 'average' injury assuming the thing

> injuring the gut is no longer there. For harder cases give it 12-18

> months. My older son was significantly less sensitive to dairy at 5

> months on enzymes (in the first frame). Although he needed some

> enzymes for a few years afterwards, he wasn't doing other therapies

> and he was quite 'recovered.' I don't mind giving enzymes at all but

> it is still nice not to *have* to have them or risk a migraine. Gives

> you some breathing room.

>

> .

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, I posted a link to the following site yesterday. If you read Dr.

Ott's page about calcium, it might help:

http://courses.washington.edu/bonephys/opcalcium.html

Not an MD

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

[ ] Calcium

>I take liquid calcium magnesium citrate, which I really

> like because it doesn't cause constipation, it actually

> helps the digestion process...

>

> Any one know anything about how well its absorbed?

>

> Thx,

>

> K

[Guest guest]

-

Hi ,

According to the article from Dr Otto, it said urnie calcium is

higher with citrate-maleate. I will have to look into that because I

do spill much calcium.

Debbie L

-- In , " " <Matsumura_Clan@...>

wrote:

>

> , I posted a link to the following site yesterday. If you

read Dr.

> Ott's page about calcium, it might help:

>

> http://courses.washington.edu/bonephys/opcalcium.html

>

>

>

> Not an MD

>

> I'll tell you where to go!

>

> Mayo Clinic in Rochester

> http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

>

> s Hopkins Medicine

> http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

>

>

> [ ] Calcium

>

>

> >I take liquid calcium magnesium citrate, which I really

> > like because it doesn't cause constipation, it actually

> > helps the digestion process...

> >

> > Any one know anything about how well its absorbed?

> >

> > Thx,

> >

> > K

>

[Guest guest]

have you tried different brands of goat milk? some

are much less sour than others. it all depends on

what the goat was fed. if you google goat milk, you

will find a brand which is dried and can be

reconsituted. i thought it was great. however, my

son did not. he prefers the one i get at mejer's from

Switzerland. my son drinks 2 c. a day of this and

then takes a calcium citrate supplement. Dr. G says

that from his labs, he can tell he is getting enough.

--- princesspeach <donnaaron@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> I've got a question regarding getting enough calcium

> into my little guy.

>

> is 8. From the time he started on the

> protocol, until about 2

> months ago, he drank Rice Dream with most meals.

> Dr. G recently told

> me to eliminate Rice Dream because it is made from

> brown rice.

> Okay...so, soy milk is completely out (because he

> hates it, and also

> because he has always been borderline sensitive to

> soy), and he

> recently decided he doesn't like goat milk gouda and

> cheddar (used to

> be great for grilled cheese and pizza...).

>

> I started buying Vance's Dairifree powder on the

> internet. He'll have

> it on cereal, and will drink it if I mix it with

> chocolate syrup. But

> if I try to give it to him plain he gags. Today I

> was distressed to

> learn that chocolate can interfere with the

> absorption of calcium. He

> won't eat anything green, and most of the other

> major

> calcium-containing foods that I read about are

> either not allowed

> (calcium-fortified OJ) or seriously hated.

> So...(sigh...)

>

> Appreciate any ideas you guys have. Anyone have any

> recipes using

> Dairifree?

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Donna

>

>

>

>

Barb Katsaros

barbkatsaros@...

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna,

Ask Dr. Goldberg is he can have almond milk, it is calcium fortified. My

little guy doesn't like it, so I bake with it. Also, orange juice with

calcium,will work too. Oh, they even have other juices made with calcium

(Maybe its Mott's brand?).

Good luck,

Argie

Re: Calcium

have you tried different brands of goat milk? some

are much less sour than others. it all depends on

what the goat was fed. if you google goat milk, you

will find a brand which is dried and can be

reconsituted. i thought it was great. however, my

son did not. he prefers the one i get at mejer's from

Switzerland. my son drinks 2 c. a day of this and

then takes a calcium citrate supplement. Dr. G says

that from his labs, he can tell he is getting enough.

--- princesspeach <donnaaron@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> I've got a question regarding getting enough calcium

> into my little guy.

>

> is 8. From the time he started on the

> protocol, until about 2

> months ago, he drank Rice Dream with most meals.

> Dr. G recently told

> me to eliminate Rice Dream because it is made from

> brown rice.

> Okay...so, soy milk is completely out (because he

> hates it, and also

> because he has always been borderline sensitive to

> soy), and he

> recently decided he doesn't like goat milk gouda and

> cheddar (used to

> be great for grilled cheese and pizza...).

>

> I started buying Vance's Dairifree powder on the

> internet. He'll have

> it on cereal, and will drink it if I mix it with

> chocolate syrup. But

> if I try to give it to him plain he gags. Today I

> was distressed to

> learn that chocolate can interfere with the

> absorption of calcium. He

> won't eat anything green, and most of the other

> major

> calcium-containing foods that I read about are

> either not allowed

> (calcium-fortified OJ) or seriously hated.

> So...(sigh...)

>

> Appreciate any ideas you guys have. Anyone have any

> recipes using

> Dairifree?

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Donna

>

>

>

>

Barb Katsaros

barbkatsaros@...

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

KAL a liquid from Vitamin Shoppe. We have

used it religiously for 3 years.

--- ldbender <ldbender@...> wrote:

> Can anyone recomend a good calcium supplement?

>

> We're using NOW brand and its causing tummy trouble.

>

> Thanks

> Lori

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

We use Kirkman's calcium powder w/Vitamin D and it tastes really good and

you can put it in anything.

[ ] Calcium

Can anyone recomend a good calcium supplement?

We're using NOW brand and its causing tummy trouble.

Thanks

Lori

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

Donna,

I wanted to throw in here that one of my boys drinks the goat milk, too (so

does our toddler). They love it. Personally, I find the flavor unpalatable

as a drink, but I love goat milk ice cream (actually it's a frozen custard).

The freezing seems to deaden my taste buds and I don't taste that " goaty "

flavor. We cook a little with it too... in pancakes and quiche I can just

barely taste it... because the quantity of goat milk added is so small, I

suppose.

The hotter the dish, the more I can taste the goat, but it's not all that

noticeable.

I wonder if there is a spice I could add that would " cancel out " the little

goat flavor there is left. If anyone has any ideas...

One funny thing happened recently... our oldest, who is not a patient of Dr.

G, drinks soy milk at home because we don't keep any cow's milk products in

our house. He went somewhere and had a glass of regular milk (he hadn't had

a glass of cow's milk for years). He hated it... he said it tasted " like

cow " . He was just grossed out. Kinda funny. I don't even remember what it

tastes like anymore.

Caroline

[Guest guest]

Donna,

Im stuck too on getting enough calcium in him. I use the Darifree

in pancakes....i buy the gfcf mix from Miss Robens and freeze them.

I have never asked Dr G about calcium supplement like Barb

gives....i wonder if I should ask!

>

> Hi all,

>

> I've got a question regarding getting enough calcium into my

little guy.

>

> is 8. From the time he started on the protocol, until about

2

> months ago, he drank Rice Dream with most meals. Dr. G recently

told

> me to eliminate Rice Dream because it is made from brown rice.

> Okay...so, soy milk is completely out (because he hates it, and

also

> because he has always been borderline sensitive to soy), and he

> recently decided he doesn't like goat milk gouda and cheddar (used

to

> be great for grilled cheese and pizza...).

>

> I started buying Vance's Dairifree powder on the internet. He'll

have

> it on cereal, and will drink it if I mix it with chocolate syrup.

But

> if I try to give it to him plain he gags. Today I was distressed

to

> learn that chocolate can interfere with the absorption of

calcium. He

> won't eat anything green, and most of the other major

> calcium-containing foods that I read about are either not allowed

> (calcium-fortified OJ) or seriously hated. So...(sigh...)

>

> Appreciate any ideas you guys have. Anyone have any recipes using

> Dairifree?

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Goat cheddar or goat mozerella make a great pizza. The tomato sauce on the

pizza is stronger than the goat taste. Also, if you have an icecream maker,

goat icecream is yummy (it really is more of a frozen custard-- you've got

to use the eggs because goat milk is so lean). My brother has made a

cinnamon icecream with goat milk and the cinnamon camouflaged the goat

taste. To get my son to drink the milk, I add just a little vanilla

Nesquik. The whole recommended 3 tsp makes a very sweet drink, but I use

about half or a third of that and it helps downplay the goaty taste while

adding in the sweetness that you naturally find in cow's milk. The Nesquik

actually adds calcium too. Also, the fresher the milk the less goat taste

you'll notice. See if there is a local farm that goes to a farmers market

or maybe delivers. In central texas, there's White Egret Farm. The taste

of their milk is far superior to the goat milk you find at the grocery

store. It is also unpasteurized so it's got a probiotic benefit to top it

off. I think goat's milk is gaining popularity so I wouldn't be surprised

if you find some local farm that is selling fresh goat milk.

Hope this helps.

April

[Guest guest]

April,

Thanks for this... I just have one concern and it's about raw goat's milk...

I worry about viruses or bacteria in the unpasteurized milk. Has anyone

asked Dr. G about this? I have been dying to try a goat cheddar I can now

get locally but have been afraid to because it is made from raw goat milk...

maybe that is not something I need to worry about. It surely would be great

to have a gooey, cheesy slice of pizza again (although we do like it pretty

well with mayonnaise on top!). I have also wondered if I did use the raw

milk on pizza if the heat would kill any viruses or bacteria.

A local pediatrician has told me how much better the flavor of fresh goat

milk is than what we get at the store. He doesn't seem to be worried at all

about using raw milk.

Caroline

[Guest guest]

Hi Caroline,

I tried the goat ice cream a year ago or so...to say it didn't go over

well is an understatement! :-) I'm hoping eventually gets over

the sudden distaste for goat gouda and cheddar, because it was so

great to be able to let him have grilled cheese sandwiches and cheese

pizza like the other kids. I bought some goat yogurt at Trader Joe's

a few weeks ago. It was waaaay too tart. Not a hit. sigh...

That's funny about your son thinking cows' milk " tastes like cow " !

Donna

>

> Donna,

>

> I wanted to throw in here that one of my boys drinks the goat milk,

too (so

> does our toddler). They love it. Personally, I find the flavor

unpalatable

> as a drink, but I love goat milk ice cream (actually it's a frozen

custard).

> The freezing seems to deaden my taste buds and I don't taste that

" goaty "

> flavor. We cook a little with it too... in pancakes and quiche I

can just

> barely taste it... because the quantity of goat milk added is so

small, I

> suppose.

>

> The hotter the dish, the more I can taste the goat, but it's not all

that

> noticeable.

>

> I wonder if there is a spice I could add that would " cancel out " the

little

> goat flavor there is left. If anyone has any ideas...

>

> One funny thing happened recently... our oldest, who is not a

patient of Dr.

> G, drinks soy milk at home because we don't keep any cow's milk

products in

> our house. He went somewhere and had a glass of regular milk (he

hadn't had

> a glass of cow's milk for years). He hated it... he said it tasted

" like

> cow " . He was just grossed out. Kinda funny. I don't even remember

what it

> tastes like anymore.

>

> Caroline

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you.

I think I will order some today!

Lori

--- Dalton <dalton897@...> wrote:

> We use Kirkman's calcium powder w/Vitamin D and it

> tastes really good and

> you can put it in anything.

> [ ] Calcium

>

>

> Can anyone recomend a good calcium supplement?

>

> We're using NOW brand and its causing tummy trouble.

>

> Thanks

> Lori

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

=======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Vanilla Nesquick! Great idea!! I would have thought it had milk

ingredients in it, though...

The goat cheddar, mozzarella and gouda were a staple in our house

until started rejecting them. I hope it's just temporary.

thanks again,

Donna

>

> Goat cheddar or goat mozerella make a great pizza. The tomato sauce

on the

> pizza is stronger than the goat taste. Also, if you have an

icecream maker,

> goat icecream is yummy (it really is more of a frozen custard--

you've got

> to use the eggs because goat milk is so lean). My brother has made a

> cinnamon icecream with goat milk and the cinnamon camouflaged the goat

> taste. To get my son to drink the milk, I add just a little vanilla

> Nesquik. The whole recommended 3 tsp makes a very sweet drink, but

I use

> about half or a third of that and it helps downplay the goaty taste

while

> adding in the sweetness that you naturally find in cow's milk. The

Nesquik

> actually adds calcium too. Also, the fresher the milk the less goat

taste

> you'll notice. See if there is a local farm that goes to a farmers

market

> or maybe delivers. In central texas, there's White Egret Farm. The

taste

> of their milk is far superior to the goat milk you find at the grocery

> store. It is also unpasteurized so it's got a probiotic benefit to

top it

> off. I think goat's milk is gaining popularity so I wouldn't be

surprised

> if you find some local farm that is selling fresh goat milk.

>

> Hope this helps.

> April

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Caroline -

Aside from the risk of bacteria or viruses,

pasteurization (I think any temp over 117 degrees?)

destroys the enzymes that help the body digest the

milk... so on the upside, unpasteurized is supposed to

more digestible. Ultra-pasteurized also changes the

proteins in milks, and is even more difficult to

digest. Possible contributing cause for the increase

in allergies to milk, not to mention the feed used?

Not entirely illogical... th

I would think a healthy gut full of probiotics would

be important to reducing the risk of negative

bacterial overgrowths, though. I wouldn't risk using

raw milk in our kids, but cheese or yogurt - if it

were full of bad bacteria - wouldn't turn out right

and would taste bad - nature's way of telling us not

to eat it. Cheese has been thru a major culturing and

enzymatic process. I would not be afraid of it. I

do, think, however, Dr G would not just say no to an

unpasteurized product - he'd scream no. Me, I'd

choose any raw cheese product I could get my hands on.

Yes, heating it long enough would kill bacteria, but

it would also kill the good stuff in it too.

--- Caroline Glover <sfglover@...> wrote:

> April,

>

> Thanks for this... I just have one concern and it's

> about raw goat's milk...

> I worry about viruses or bacteria in the

> unpasteurized milk. Has anyone

> asked Dr. G about this? I have been dying to try a

> goat cheddar I can now

> get locally but have been afraid to because it is

> made from raw goat milk...

> maybe that is not something I need to worry about.

> It surely would be great

> to have a gooey, cheesy slice of pizza again

> (although we do like it pretty

> well with mayonnaise on top!). I have also wondered

> if I did use the raw

> milk on pizza if the heat would kill any viruses or

> bacteria.

>

> A local pediatrician has told me how much better the

> flavor of fresh goat

> milk is than what we get at the store. He doesn't

> seem to be worried at all

> about using raw milk.

>

> Caroline

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

-We have been using Kirkman calcium powder.

You mix it right into food, and you can bake with it.

-- In , " ldbender " <ldbender@...> wrote:

>

> Can anyone recomend a good calcium supplement?

>

> We're using NOW brand and its causing tummy trouble.

>

> Thanks

> Lori

>

[Guest guest]

On vanilla Nesquik-- I was afraid that it might have milk products in it

too, but checked the label and was surprised to find that there weren't any

that I could see. I mentioned to Dr. Goldberg that I was using it and he

said that was fine.

On unpasteurized milk-- I don't recall whether I spoke with Dr. G about it

or not, but I do remember the conversation with our local pediatrician. He

was a little concerned (not enough to recommend that we stop) and just told

us to watch out for fever or digestive problems. We've been using it almost

2 years and have had no problem.

I also found the following info at

www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2005/04/18/health_canada_vs_unpasteurized_mil

k.htm

RAW MILK: Incidence of food-borne illness from raw milk – 1.9 cases per

100,000 people, 1973-1992. (American Journal Public Health Aug 1998, Vol

88., No 8)

PASTEURIZED MILK: Based on CDC website, incidence of food-borne illness from

all foods including pasteurized milk – 4.7 cases per 100,000 people,

1993-1997. (US Census Bureau 1997 population estimate 267,783,607)

OTHER FOODS: Based on CDC website of reported food-borne illness from other

foods – 6.4 cases per 100,000 people, per year from 1993-1997.

If you don't feel comfortable with the raw milk, then pasteurized goat milk

is becoming more and more available in grocery stores-- though it doesn't

taste quite as good. (nesquik helps make it more palatable) Cooking or

melting cheese ought to kill bacteria that would cause possible concern.

Hope this helps.

April

[Guest guest]

Dr. G just told me absolutely not on the almond milk because almond's (nuts)

are highly allergenic. I don't know if he means that for every child.

At Whole Foods you can get calcium-fortified juice boxes. They are made by

Apple and Eve. I think the Trader Joe's brand juice boxes are calcium

fortified, too.

Kristy

Re: Calcium

have you tried different brands of goat milk? some

are much less sour than others. it all depends on

what the goat was fed. if you google goat milk, you

will find a brand which is dried and can be

reconsituted. i thought it was great. however, my

son did not. he prefers the one i get at mejer's from

Switzerland. my son drinks 2 c. a day of this and

then takes a calcium citrate supplement. Dr. G says

that from his labs, he can tell he is getting enough.

--- princesspeach <donnaaron@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> I've got a question regarding getting enough calcium

> into my little guy.

>

> is 8. From the time he started on the

> protocol, until about 2

> months ago, he drank Rice Dream with most meals.

> Dr. G recently told

> me to eliminate Rice Dream because it is made from

> brown rice.

> Okay...so, soy milk is completely out (because he

> hates it, and also

> because he has always been borderline sensitive to

> soy), and he

> recently decided he doesn't like goat milk gouda and

> cheddar (used to

> be great for grilled cheese and pizza...).

>

> I started buying Vance's Dairifree powder on the

> internet. He'll have

> it on cereal, and will drink it if I mix it with

> chocolate syrup. But

> if I try to give it to him plain he gags. Today I

> was distressed to

> learn that chocolate can interfere with the

> absorption of calcium. He

> won't eat anything green, and most of the other

> major

> calcium-containing foods that I read about are

> either not allowed

> (calcium-fortified OJ) or seriously hated.

> So...(sigh...)

>

> Appreciate any ideas you guys have. Anyone have any

> recipes using

> Dairifree?

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Donna

>

>

>

>

Barb Katsaros

barbkatsaros@...

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Donna,

I, too, worry about enough calcium for my little guy. Will your son drink

juice? I recently found a juice by Evolution, called Organic V which is just

5 organic veggies: carrot, parsley, beets, celery and I think broccoli and

it tastes a little sweet, not veggie at all. I mix it 2/3 with 1/3 organic

grape and my 4 y.o. son loves it (he won't go near a veggie).

Can you get another type of rice milk? I have heard that the Whole Foods

brand is better than Rice Dream. We're not doing rice milk right now to help

control yeast.

Can you give him calcium-fortified juices? I've never asked Dr. G about

that.

Kristy

Calcium

Hi all,

I've got a question regarding getting enough calcium into my little guy.

is 8. From the time he started on the protocol, until about 2

months ago, he drank Rice Dream with most meals. Dr. G recently told

me to eliminate Rice Dream because it is made from brown rice.

Okay...so, soy milk is completely out (because he hates it, and also

because he has always been borderline sensitive to soy), and he

recently decided he doesn't like goat milk gouda and cheddar (used to

be great for grilled cheese and pizza...).

I started buying Vance's Dairifree powder on the internet. He'll have

it on cereal, and will drink it if I mix it with chocolate syrup. But

if I try to give it to him plain he gags. Today I was distressed to

learn that chocolate can interfere with the absorption of calcium. He

won't eat anything green, and most of the other major

calcium-containing foods that I read about are either not allowed

(calcium-fortified OJ) or seriously hated. So...(sigh...)

Appreciate any ideas you guys have. Anyone have any recipes using

Dairifree?

Thanks in advance,

Donna

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[Guest guest]

Vanilla Nesquick is high in corn, I believe, so it's not a good option if

corn is a problem (it is for us). It's also VERY high in sugar and also

calories.

I have heard that a bit of chocolate doesn't interfere *that much* with

calcium absorption, and that if chocolate is the only way to get kids to

consume 'milk', then it's better than nothing. Henry's, Trader Joes and

Whole Foods all sell a GFCF organic chocolate syrup that tastes pretty good.

Kristy

Re: Calcium

Vanilla Nesquick! Great idea!! I would have thought it had milk

ingredients in it, though...

The goat cheddar, mozzarella and gouda were a staple in our house

until started rejecting them. I hope it's just temporary.

thanks again,

Donna

>

> Goat cheddar or goat mozerella make a great pizza. The tomato sauce

on the

> pizza is stronger than the goat taste. Also, if you have an

icecream maker,

> goat icecream is yummy (it really is more of a frozen custard--

you've got

> to use the eggs because goat milk is so lean). My brother has made a

> cinnamon icecream with goat milk and the cinnamon camouflaged the goat

> taste. To get my son to drink the milk, I add just a little vanilla

> Nesquik. The whole recommended 3 tsp makes a very sweet drink, but

I use

> about half or a third of that and it helps downplay the goaty taste

while

> adding in the sweetness that you naturally find in cow's milk. The

Nesquik

> actually adds calcium too. Also, the fresher the milk the less goat

taste

> you'll notice. See if there is a local farm that goes to a farmers

market

> or maybe delivers. In central texas, there's White Egret Farm. The

taste

> of their milk is far superior to the goat milk you find at the grocery

> store. It is also unpasteurized so it's got a probiotic benefit to

top it

> off. I think goat's milk is gaining popularity so I wouldn't be

surprised

> if you find some local farm that is selling fresh goat milk.

>

> Hope this helps.

> April

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kristy,

He told me that too, some time ago. Regular apple juice can be a

problem because of the sugar content, but this morning I bought Mott's

Light Lo-Carb Apple Juice drink, which is Vitamin C and Calcium

Fortified. It has only half the grams of sugar of regular apple

juice. Hopefully, will like it...keepin' the old fingers crossed...

Donna

>

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I've got a question regarding getting enough calcium

> > into my little guy.

> >

> > is 8. From the time he started on the

> > protocol, until about 2

> > months ago, he drank Rice Dream with most meals.

> > Dr. G recently told

> > me to eliminate Rice Dream because it is made from

> > brown rice.

> > Okay...so, soy milk is completely out (because he

> > hates it, and also

> > because he has always been borderline sensitive to

> > soy), and he

> > recently decided he doesn't like goat milk gouda and

> > cheddar (used to

> > be great for grilled cheese and pizza...).

> >

> > I started buying Vance's Dairifree powder on the

> > internet. He'll have

> > it on cereal, and will drink it if I mix it with

> > chocolate syrup. But

> > if I try to give it to him plain he gags. Today I

> > was distressed to

> > learn that chocolate can interfere with the

> > absorption of calcium. He

> > won't eat anything green, and most of the other

> > major

> > calcium-containing foods that I read about are

> > either not allowed

> > (calcium-fortified OJ) or seriously hated.

> > So...(sigh...)

> >

> > Appreciate any ideas you guys have. Anyone have any

> > recipes using

> > Dairifree?

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> >

> > Donna

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> Barb Katsaros

> barbkatsaros@...

>

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