Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Are these ok to take if your 23 weeks pregnant? It is from the Essaic Tea if anyone is famialr with that. Burdock Root: 67.7% Sheep Sorrel: 21.6% Rhubard Root: 5.0% Slippery Elm Bark: 5.0% It may not be those exact percentages but something close to it. Thanks Marnie " If the moment you have created is not beautiful, just re-create it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 > Are these ok to take if your 23 weeks pregnant? It is from the Essaic Tea if > anyone is famialr with that. > > Burdock Root: 67.7% > Sheep Sorrel: 21.6% > Rhubard Root: 5.0% > Slippery Elm Bark: 5.0% Hi Marnie, As a medical professional, I would like to offer this information. First, this is not the type of question you should be posting to random readers on the internet because you really don't know the credentials of anyone who might take a stab at answering your question. The world is full of erroneous information. Secondly, given the mutagenic effects of medications and other substances, you should never take anything unless it specifically states in the literature that it is safe for expectant mothers and/or the fetus. The financial incentive to do the needed research on the safety of herbs during pregnancy is just not there. I doubt that any credible research has been done on any of your mentioned substances.....therefore you should not take or do anything which has even a question of safety to you or your fetus. Anecdotal information is not credible. That means that if your next door neighbor took something when she was pregnant and suffered no ill effects then that substance would be all right for you. It's not known if that would be the case. And don't forget that even after the birth, many ingested substance can show up in breast milk. So if you are planning on breast feeding use extreme care in what you consume during that period. I hope that this information is of some use to you. dennis PS One last thing. You are slightly more than half-way through your pregnancy and past the period of extreme caution.. The first trimester is the time in which a fetus is exceptionally vulnerable to the mutagenic effects of consumed substances because that is the time during which the various tissues and organs are being differentiated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 Dennis, Thank God someone has some brains. Now maybe you can deal with the one where someone is looking for a home made cure for streep!! What a hoot! Re: Are these herbs safe if your pregnant? > > > Are these ok to take if your 23 weeks pregnant? It is from the Essaic Tea > if > > anyone is famialr with that. > > > > Burdock Root: 67.7% > > Sheep Sorrel: 21.6% > > Rhubard Root: 5.0% > > Slippery Elm Bark: 5.0% > > Hi Marnie, > > As a medical professional, I would like to offer this information. First, > this is not the type of question you should be posting to random readers on > the internet because you really don't know the credentials of anyone who > might take a stab at answering your question. The world is full of > erroneous information. Secondly, given the mutagenic effects of medications > and other substances, you should never take anything unless it specifically > states in the literature that it is safe for expectant mothers and/or the > fetus. The financial incentive to do the needed research on the safety of > herbs during pregnancy is just not there. I doubt that any credible > research has been done on any of your mentioned substances.....therefore you > should not take or do anything which has even a question of safety to you or > your fetus. Anecdotal information is not credible. That means that if your > next door neighbor took something when she was pregnant and suffered no ill > effects then that substance would be all right for you. It's not known if > that would be the case. And don't forget that even after the birth, many > ingested substance can show up in breast milk. So if you are planning on > breast feeding use extreme care in what you consume during that period. I > hope that this information is of some use to you. > > dennis > > PS One last thing. You are slightly more than half-way through your > pregnancy and past the period of extreme caution.. The first trimester is > the time in which a fetus is exceptionally vulnerable to the mutagenic > effects of consumed substances because that is the time during which the > various tissues and organs are being differentiated. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 In a message dated 3/5/2002 4:55:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, fiveftnutn@... writes: > Thank God someone has some brains. Now maybe you can deal with the one > where someone is looking for a home made cure for streep!! What a hoot! > I thought this list was for sharing of information, recipes, ideas etc. Seems to me if your not knowledgeable you ask someone that might be. Not everyone knows everything, if they did they wouldnt need lists such as these. Gosh, information now comes in condescending form.......thats always helpful. NOT Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 I joined this forum in hopes of finding recipes, etc. in my quest to make home-made toiletries, and so far I have received 2 useful e-mails out of 50 the rest being advertising, and now this sort of abuse, to what I feel was a relevant question for this forum - Is anyone actually monitoring these? >From: " SDevlin " <fiveftnutn@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: Re: Are these herbs safe if your pregnant? >Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:12:12 -0600 > >Dennis, >Thank God someone has some brains. Now maybe you can deal with the one >where someone is looking for a home made cure for streep!! What a hoot! > Re: Are these herbs safe if your pregnant? > > > > > > > Are these ok to take if your 23 weeks pregnant? It is from the Essaic >Tea > > if > > > anyone is famialr with that. > > > > > > Burdock Root: 67.7% > > > Sheep Sorrel: 21.6% > > > Rhubard Root: 5.0% > > > Slippery Elm Bark: 5.0% > > > > Hi Marnie, > > > > As a medical professional, I would like to offer this information. >First, > > this is not the type of question you should be posting to random readers >on > > the internet because you really don't know the credentials of anyone who > > might take a stab at answering your question. The world is full of > > erroneous information. Secondly, given the mutagenic effects of >medications > > and other substances, you should never take anything unless it >specifically > > states in the literature that it is safe for expectant mothers and/or >the > > fetus. The financial incentive to do the needed research on the safety >of > > herbs during pregnancy is just not there. I doubt that any credible > > research has been done on any of your mentioned substances.....therefore >you > > should not take or do anything which has even a question of safety to >you >or > > your fetus. Anecdotal information is not credible. That means that if >your > > next door neighbor took something when she was pregnant and suffered no >ill > > effects then that substance would be all right for you. It's not known >if > > that would be the case. And don't forget that even after the birth, >many > > ingested substance can show up in breast milk. So if you are planning >on > > breast feeding use extreme care in what you consume during that period. >I > > hope that this information is of some use to you. > > > > dennis > > > > PS One last thing. You are slightly more than half-way through your > > pregnancy and past the period of extreme caution.. The first trimester >is > > the time in which a fetus is exceptionally vulnerable to the mutagenic > > effects of consumed substances because that is the time during which the > > various tissues and organs are being differentiated. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 3-6-02 Yes, this forum is monitored by and I EVERY day. We handle any note we see as a problem immediately, off list, the way problems should be handled. Please people remember, this list has over 1700 members, and those that post have idea's and opinions of their own, just as you do. Most try to express opinions as kindly as possible, others don't give a hoot how they write things. Those are the one's you must learn to ignore. Grow a thick skin, or get ready to have your feelings hurt. Pattie Co-Owner/List Admin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In a message dated 03/06/2002 5:46:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, fiveftnutn@... writes: << Sorry, but I am appaled to find that home remedies, such as cures for strep and herbs safe for pregnancy, fall in the same catagory as toiletries. It is one thing if adults want to cure strep in their kitchen but it concerns me that people aren't taking their children to the doctor. I joined this forum to get useful and unique ideas and recipes for making TOILETRIES such as bath products, soaps etc. I am interested, too, in knowing if this forum is monitored. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Sorry, but I am appaled to find that home remedies, such as cures for strep and herbs safe for pregnancy, fall in the same catagory as toiletries. It is one thing if adults want to cure strep in their kitchen but it concerns me that people aren't taking their children to the doctor. I joined this forum to get useful and unique ideas and recipes for making TOILETRIES such as bath products, soaps etc. I am interested, too, in knowing if this forum is monitored. Re: Are these herbs safe if your pregnant? > > > > > > > > > > > Are these ok to take if your 23 weeks pregnant? It is from the Essaic > >Tea > > > if > > > > anyone is famialr with that. > > > > > > > > Burdock Root: 67.7% > > > > Sheep Sorrel: 21.6% > > > > Rhubard Root: 5.0% > > > > Slippery Elm Bark: 5.0% > > > > > > Hi Marnie, > > > > > > As a medical professional, I would like to offer this information. > >First, > > > this is not the type of question you should be posting to random readers > >on > > > the internet because you really don't know the credentials of anyone who > > > might take a stab at answering your question. The world is full of > > > erroneous information. Secondly, given the mutagenic effects of > >medications > > > and other substances, you should never take anything unless it > >specifically > > > states in the literature that it is safe for expectant mothers and/or > >the > > > fetus. The financial incentive to do the needed research on the safety > >of > > > herbs during pregnancy is just not there. I doubt that any credible > > > research has been done on any of your mentioned substances.....therefore > >you > > > should not take or do anything which has even a question of safety to > >you > >or > > > your fetus. Anecdotal information is not credible. That means that if > >your > > > next door neighbor took something when she was pregnant and suffered no > >ill > > > effects then that substance would be all right for you. It's not known > >if > > > that would be the case. And don't forget that even after the birth, > >many > > > ingested substance can show up in breast milk. So if you are planning > >on > > > breast feeding use extreme care in what you consume during that period. > >I > > > hope that this information is of some use to you. > > > > > > dennis > > > > > > PS One last thing. You are slightly more than half-way through your > > > pregnancy and past the period of extreme caution.. The first trimester > >is > > > the time in which a fetus is exceptionally vulnerable to the mutagenic > > > effects of consumed substances because that is the time during which the > > > various tissues and organs are being differentiated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Hello (I am not sure what your name is), I understand and share your concern about the well-being of others. One of the things I have learned on this site is that the education, experience, and careers of many of its members are focused on herbs, essential oils, and other such natural plant products. There is a natural overlap as these items are used in both toiletries as well as home remedies. What would be worrisome is if people were using these items with no knowledge of their effect on human beings, so questions asked and answered here is a good thing. I hope people will always feel free to ask what they may fear is a dumb question (I know I have asked my share) and that there will continue to be such informed caring people to answer those questions. Adults certainly have the right to information and to use home remedies. We are alive today because our ancestors used home remedies. Many countries and cultures still depend mainly on these herbal remedies and have been doing so for centuries. However, I can tell you that not too long ago a member wrote with home remedy questions for her child's cold. Members provided her with the information she was seeking but also kindly and with caring urged her to take her child to a physician. No one here is attempting to be a physician. The way that herbs and other natural products are best and most safely used whether in toiletries or home remedies is by being educated. Education is about seeking needed information. I think it is important to keep a caring and supportive environment here so that people feel safe to ask their questions when needed instead of guessing on their own. I hope you will be a part of this effort. ¸..·´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Sage -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 To be honest with everyone I am really annoyed with this whole subject. One person says that this is a big family yet we should keep this board friendly. Well Families are about honesty and discussions. If someone has a question then they should feel free to ask it! Then there was a concern that someone isn't taking there children to the doctor. Yes this is a concern But the fact is that herbal remedies have been used in homes and doctors offices for hundreds of years. Most medications are founded on natural ingredients. I'm sure that most of the parents on this board will take there children to the doctors when they are ill. But it can't hurt to use natural remedies to help in the recovery of a loved one in addition to your doctors recommendation. Also the question as to whether or not this is a discussion to have on this board. Well my opinion is that we have been discussing for a while now what different essential oils do. What properties they have and what they are used for. So why not question if an essential herb would help someone in our own family with an illness. I found this question to be an appropriate question for this board. Toiletries is a wide range of topics. Essential oils are used in a wide variety of Toiletries! Last but not least the question of if this board is being monitored. Yes it is.Here is the address of the list owners List owner: -owner . But why would I or anyone else want someone to tell me what I can discuss on this board as long as it is a friendly and honest question. No one here was saying anything racist or negative against any race, religion or gender. The original question was in regards to Essential Oils. Whether or not you would agree on the issue of using natural remedies on yourself or your family is besides the point. We all have a right to ask. If you don't like it don't read it or don't respond. I don't need a message board police! I want and need everyone to respect our questions and try to be helpful to the people like me who have a question and might need some answers. This is just my opinion, and nothing more. But this is definitely how I feel! Juniper Spayth Owner of Juniper's DeJaVu Home of all your Hand Poured Candles, Hand Dipped Incense and Custom Hemp Jewelry !!!! Bath & Body Coming Soon!!! www.JunipersDejavu.com JunipersDejavu@... 228-522-1846 Bookmark us now :-) Re: Are these herbs safe if your pregnant? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are these ok to take if your 23 weeks pregnant? It is from the > Essaic > > >Tea > > > > if > > > > > anyone is famialr with that. > > > > > > > > > > Burdock Root: 67.7% > > > > > Sheep Sorrel: 21.6% > > > > > Rhubard Root: 5.0% > > > > > Slippery Elm Bark: 5.0% > > > > > > > > Hi Marnie, > > > > > > > > As a medical professional, I would like to offer this information. > > >First, > > > > this is not the type of question you should be posting to random > readers > > >on > > > > the internet because you really don't know the credentials of anyone > who > > > > might take a stab at answering your question. The world is full of > > > > erroneous information. Secondly, given the mutagenic effects of > > >medications > > > > and other substances, you should never take anything unless it > > >specifically > > > > states in the literature that it is safe for expectant mothers and/or > > >the > > > > fetus. The financial incentive to do the needed research on the > safety > > >of > > > > herbs during pregnancy is just not there. I doubt that any credible > > > > research has been done on any of your mentioned > substances.....therefore > > >you > > > > should not take or do anything which has even a question of safety to > > >you > > >or > > > > your fetus. Anecdotal information is not credible. That means that > if > > >your > > > > next door neighbor took something when she was pregnant and suffered > no > > >ill > > > > effects then that substance would be all right for you. It's not > known > > >if > > > > that would be the case. And don't forget that even after the birth, > > >many > > > > ingested substance can show up in breast milk. So if you are planning > > >on > > > > breast feeding use extreme care in what you consume during that > period. > > >I > > > > hope that this information is of some use to you. > > > > > > > > dennis > > > > > > > > PS One last thing. You are slightly more than half-way through your > > > > pregnancy and past the period of extreme caution.. The first > trimester > > >is > > > > the time in which a fetus is exceptionally vulnerable to the mutagenic > > > > effects of consumed substances because that is the time during which > the > > > > various tissues and organs are being differentiated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 In a message dated 3/7/02 12:17:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, rusky270@... writes: << Grow a thick skin, or get ready to have your feelings hurt. >> also as has been mentioned before by the list mothers when someone says OT don't read if you don't like it . this advice has saved me lots of headaches sometimes people who think alike meet and talk collectively on subjects they agree about that may not have anything to do with the lists main objective . to me it is like a class room in college you pay for psychology but may tap into history etc. it does not stop anyone from learning . ps my mom had a fear of strep throat because her sister developed a heart condtion after a bad strep infection. upon which she has had open heart surgery for and had a brush with death in consequence. with love and humility-tamika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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