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good morning group:

this is a request to anyone that may have an article in " your archives " about

gleevec, sprycel causing heart disease.

i was in the hospital for two weeks fighting pancreatitis, followed by

congestive heart failure. i had ekg at the hospital showing no signs of damage

but had a stress test done and as i increase my activity and the heart rate goes

up, the heart is struggling to pump enough blood. i have pleural effision in my

left lung with pain at rest on my left side.

any infomation would be appreciated.

ann grimm

dxd 10/2002

gleevec till 07

sprycel currently 140mg

48 yrs old

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Hi Amy,

I understand somewhat what your going through, but not because I am not on

Sprycel.  However, long before I went on any of the Gleevec drugs, I started a

anti-oxidant called: Coenzyme Q-10, which has been the right supplement that 

prevented me from having a heart murmur, and/or  taking the antibiotics when you

have to have your teeth cleaned. Which for me,  was diagnosis when I did the

Chemotherapy drug called Interferon.  I thought I was really in bad shape, so I

joined a health club, and did a route on weight equipment  and hired a coach,

who would educated me to bring back the strength in my body, and especially the

heart. I soon became bored working on the equipment, but decided if I was going

to live, I needed something to built back everything that was depleted from

Interferon,

and found at a Wellness Cancer Home, searching for other exercises like Tai Chi,

and Yoga, that helped me feel more energized, and everybody I worked with was

cancer patients of other types besides CML.  Now you don't have to be this

drastic, however, both exercises and anti-oxidants did help me.

  As it stand today, I do not belong to  any health club, however, once every 2

years I have the EKG, and a battery of several test, which reveals to the

Cardiologist that I no longer have the heart problems, because I am taking

Coenzyme Q-10. I am only 135Lbs. women

who is rather petite, only 5 " 3 " , I use 150mgs. of Coenzyme Q-10, every night

before I sleep

with AAcidophileswhich are  probiotics with bifidius, for the stomach and adding

the right bacteria to consume foods. I could not take yogurt, because as I got

older I became lactose intolerance, so all dairy products and cheeses  were

removed, and I don't miss cows milk in the least!

 Now you can go into Internet and asked a question through ggogglesearch engine,

like: how safe is Coenzyme Q-10? ...and you will find really good research which

will tell you how this does correct or provide you with

healthier arteries.

As far as your problem with pancretitis, I stopped consuming any meat, ( even

though I was

buying my family hohormoneree, grgrass-fedeats) because I ran into Acute

Pancretitis diagnosis, and was hospitalized.  What I don't think people realize

when they have a very serious condition in health is the way we use to consume

our foods.  All medication no matter what kind of medication your on, produces a

very acidic environment, when your constantly consuming cows milk, or meat

products.  It is more beneficial to do some anti-oxidants when you are doing the

cancer drugs, because they deplete the right things in our bodies to enable us

and stay in a remission, that is my belief. I have also in the past

had bouts of consuming white gluten, like bread, bagels, pie crust, anything

that had

wheat gluten.

 Today, I avoid consuming anything in the food group of white potato, white

flour, white rice, due to the glycemic reaction and because due to age, we are

prone

to diabetes. To keep a healthier diet,  I consumed more greener vegetables by

steaming, sauteed, and stir fry. The only exception to meat is free-ranged

turkeys, and no lunch meats because of susulfidesand I don't drink alcohol

either.  

To prevent another epepisoder attack of pancretitis, I went to a book store and

asked for

everything about anti-oxidant, bought vitamin bibles, and read everything in

sight to

learn how to enable my body better with

supplements and vitamins, while I was

taking  the cancer drug.  I found food enzymes, which helped me digest the foods

that

I wanted to eat, and also neutralize the cancer drug so that my body would not

be so

acidic it would prevent me from consuming food, which is how we heal our body,

and or

how we nutritionally enable to live on these cancer drugs.

It takes much research and more education  to learn how we can best benefit with

things, that enable us to take those cancer drugs, and stay in a remission. I

hope you find

another solution to help you work out the side-effects of Sprycel, and or if you

think you

can't manage Sprycel, talk to your  Oncologist, and maybe change to Tasagna.

There are

many Cmlers who went to this drug instead of Sprycel, because of the negative

black

box warning about the heart damages.

I hope you find something that works in your favor, in the mean time you are

welcome

to write to me again for anything else, as I thought I would be on a long

journey of dealing

with Gleevec.  Just so you know I had relapse  while I was taken off of 

Gleevec, for 1 week and when I had the acute pancretitis attacks.  I  was bumped

up to 400mgs. of Gleevec,

when the cancer return,however, I am back in remission again, so I work hard to

keep myself  stabled.  I had gone to a larger Cml hospital, in New York City,

Memorial Sloan Kettering,  which gave me all the neccessary blood testings that

my Chicago could not have

done.  It provided me with better tools to enable me to stay on Gleevec, despite

the

swelling when in contact with humidity, as changing my diet did provide better!

Dory Doggie

From: ann grimm <agrimm500@...>

Subject: [ ] request for past articles

Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008, 10:53 AM

good morning group:

this is a request to anyone that may have an article in " your archives " about

gleevec, sprycel causing heart disease.

i was in the hospital for two weeks fighting pancreatitis, followed by

congestive heart failure. i had ekg at the hospital showing no signs of damage

but had a stress test done and as i increase my activity and the heart rate goes

up, the heart is struggling to pump enough blood. i have pleural effision in my

left lung with pain at rest on my left side.

any infomation would be appreciated.

ann grimm

dxd 10/2002

gleevec till 07

sprycel currently 140mg

48 yrs old

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Ann,

 

I'm sorry to hear about your situation.

When i was worried about possible heart problems I contacted Dr. Force by

email  in Philadelphia at Jefferson Hospital-  I could probably find his email

again if you can't locate it on the internet..  He was the researcher Novartis

hired to see why the people had heart failure.  He said the 10 were treated,

survived and were able to remain on gleevec.  If I remember they all had

problems with the left ventricle.   I had an echo done but my GP said you could

have one done today and the problem could come up tomorrow.  So I guess we

should all be vigilant and pay attention to our bodies; and ask our docs about

monitoring our hearts.

 

 

 

Chi

From: ann grimm <agrimm500@...>

Subject: [ ] request for past articles

Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008, 8:53 AM

good morning group:

this is a request to anyone that may have an article in " your archives " about

gleevec, sprycel causing heart disease.

i was in the hospital for two weeks fighting pancreatitis, followed by

congestive heart failure. i had ekg at the hospital showing no signs of damage

but had a stress test done and as i increase my activity and the heart rate goes

up, the heart is struggling to pump enough blood. i have pleural effision in my

left lung with pain at rest on my left side.

any infomation would be appreciated.

ann grimm

dxd 10/2002

gleevec till 07

sprycel currently 140mg

48 yrs old

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thank you so much for any help you can give. i will be going in for a heart

cath next week. they have found something wrong with the arteries surrounding

the heart. the heart is still enlarged and i still have pericarditis, the

inflammation in the sac. my cardio doctor needs to get in there with some die

and may be able to shore up the arteries in question. i have been taking the

nitro pills each day now and can only wait until i get this done. they stopped

sprycel for a week because of prolong qt readings with the ekg. ever since i was

released from the hospital from the congestive heart failure/pancreatitis my

eyes have been unable to focus they will just blurr out. i went to my eye

doctor and i have edema in the back of the eyes with what appears to large

deposits of plac. a test to determine the cause of the edema will be run after

the heart cath.

ann grimm

[ ] request for past articles

Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008, 8:53 AM

good morning group:

this is a request to anyone that may have an article in " your archives " about

gleevec, sprycel causing heart disease.

i was in the hospital for two weeks fighting pancreatitis, followed by

congestive heart failure. i had ekg at the hospital showing no signs of damage

but had a stress test done and as i increase my activity and the heart rate goes

up, the heart is struggling to pump enough blood. i have pleural effision in my

left lung with pain at rest on my left side.

any infomation would be appreciated.

ann grimm

dxd 10/2002

gleevec till 07

sprycel currently 140mg

48 yrs old

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