Re: Best Preservative for this Recipe?

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In a message dated 2/16/02 8:44:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,

holliberre@... writes:

Didn't the recipe have rosewater in it? That's water! Hydrosols are

water, so it would need to be preserved for long-term storage, I would think.

Christy

<< Amber: Use the vitamn E along with the honey as an

additive. Vitamin E only does good things. Water has

all kinds of icky things in it, and that's what you need

the germaben for. There is no water in your recipe.

Holly

>>

Christy

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[Guest guest]

Oh, sorry I didn't specify. This is an anti-wrinkle

lotion recipe. I want to make it for gifts for my mom,

aunt, grandmother, and some for myself =) But I want

to put a preservative in it for my aunt and

grandmother, because they live in other states and

can't have it made fresh every time.

Thanks,

Amber

--- Serenity Scents <serenityscents@...> wrote:

> What would you use this for?

>

> Lynn

> Best Preservative for this

> Recipe?

>

>

> > Hi.

> >

> > I found this recipe online at erma's herbs site.

> >

> > Would somebody tell me the best preservative, and

> the amount I should

> > use for it?

> >

> > Here it is:

> >

> > 2 tablespoons glycerine

> > 2 tablespoons rosewater

> > 2 tablespoons witchhazel

> > 4 tablespoons honey

> >

> > Mix together well in a small jar. Once blended,

> use.

> >

> > Thank you so much! Oh, I have Phenonip and Germall

> Plus, I just

> > ordered them both. Would either of those work? If

> so, how much should

> > I use?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Amber

> > http://www.all-natural-beauty.com

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Nope, I listed all the ingredients specified. I want

to try it out to see if it really works as an

" antiwrinkle lotion " , but I want to use a preservative

in it so I can send it to some family members.

Here's the link to where the recipe is at:

http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Canopy/6901/cosmetics/lotion.html

Amber

--- Leanna Hildebrand <leannah@...> wrote:

> Hi Amber, are there any e.o.s specified for this

> recipe? Also, where is

> Erma's herbs site?Thanks for your help.

>

> Leanna.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Amber, are there any e.o.s specified for this recipe? Also, where is

Erma's herbs site?Thanks for your help.

Leanna.

[Guest guest]

What would you use this for?

Lynn

Best Preservative for this Recipe?

> Hi.

>

> I found this recipe online at erma's herbs site.

>

> Would somebody tell me the best preservative, and the amount I should

> use for it?

>

> Here it is:

>

> 2 tablespoons glycerine

> 2 tablespoons rosewater

> 2 tablespoons witchhazel

> 4 tablespoons honey

>

> Mix together well in a small jar. Once blended, use.

>

> Thank you so much! Oh, I have Phenonip and Germall Plus, I just

> ordered them both. Would either of those work? If so, how much should

> I use?

>

> Thanks,

> Amber

> http://www.all-natural-beauty.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Amber: Since you don't have any water in that recipe, I

would use vitamin E as a preservative rather than

Germaben. Holly

[Guest guest]

Holly,

Hi. Should I only use vitamin E even though it has

honey in it?

Thanks for the advice.

Amber

--- holliberre@... wrote:

> Amber: Since you don't have any water in that

> recipe, I

> would use vitamin E as a preservative rather than

> Germaben. Holly

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Amber: Use the vitamn E along with the honey as an

additive. Vitamin E only does good things. Water has

all kinds of icky things in it, and that's what you need

the germaben for. There is no water in your recipe.

Holly

[Guest guest]

What could you use on that Recipe beside Rose water.....I don't have any of the

Rose Water......Sounds interesting. TIA...Carla

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Re: Best Preservative for this Recipe?

Amber: Since you don't have any water in that recipe, I

would use vitamin E as a preservative rather than

Germaben. Holly

[Guest guest]

I do not believe that rosewater and tap water are the

same things................Holly

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/16/02 9:51:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,

holliberre@... writes:

<< I do not believe that rosewater and tap water are the

same things..... >>

You are correct, they are not the same things. But bacteria will grow just

as readily in hydrosols as it will in tap water.

Christy

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In a message dated 2/17/02 7:50:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,

holliberre@... writes:

<< Do you mean that rose water is not processed in any way?

That it's just tap water with rose oil in it? >>

Ok, there are true hydrosols on the market which are the by-product of

steam-distillation of essential oils. Ideally, depending on how much of a

purist you are...these should not have preservatives added. They will keep

for several months if stored properly, ie, dark glass containers,

refridgerated. And you can always preserve the final product made with

them later. There are many on-line suppliers who sell these without

preservatives. You have to ask, cuz you don't know..

Then there are the " health food store " rose-water type " hydrosols " .

Sometimes these are true hydrosols, and they most likely will have a

preservative added, because they are mass-produced and transported and sold

and stored on shelf at room temp. Then there are *other* waters which are

sometimes called " floral waters " . These are nothing more than plain

water with some essential oils and dispersant added to dissolve the oils in

the water. These also will most likely have a preservative added.

And...they are not hydrosols. Just depends on what you are looking for.

For the " rosewaters " that DO have a preservative already added at

manufacture, I do not know if that preservative would be adequate to preserve

a final product made out of using the rosewater as an ingredient. But you

can't just say, oh it's rosewater, not water, so you don't need a

preservative. You need to know what kind of water you have, is it a true

hydrosol or does it have a preservative added, etc.

Christy

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In a message dated 2/17/02 8:27:04 AM Pacific Standard Time,

christipaul@... writes:

<< In Turkey it is a throw away. I use a lot of

it in body sprays and hand creams. Good rose water does not smell very good

and has to be mixed with other things to get the effect that is nice. >>

I buy a rose hydrosol from someone who lives in Turkey and he gets his

hydrosols direct from the distiller there! He says it's his best-selling

item. Oh, it makes me shiver to think they would throw that good stuff

away!!! And it smells.....heavenly. It's addictive.

Christy

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[Guest guest]

Rose water is the same as any water just with rose otto in it to some small

degree. You would need some type of preservative in it. Contamination can

come from your hands and the water helps it grow.

Chris

www.womenintouch.com/page711896.htm

Re: Best Preservative for this Recipe?

> I do not believe that rosewater and tap water are the

> same things................Holly

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Could I use phenonip? I hope I spelled that right.

Thanks,

Amber

--- christipaul <christipaul@...> wrote:

> Rose water is the same as any water just with rose

> otto in it to some small

> degree. You would need some type of preservative in

> it. Contamination can

> come from your hands and the water helps it grow.

> Chris

> www.womenintouch.com/page711896.htm

> Re: Best Preservative for

> this Recipe?

>

>

> > I do not believe that rosewater and tap water are

> the

> > same things................Holly

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Do you mean that rose water is not processed in any way?

That it's just tap water with rose oil in it?

[Guest guest]

I bow to Christas judgement, I have only been making

creams for three years, not long enough to be an

authority.

[Guest guest]

I would think so. I would search phenonip and see if you can come up with

an info page. I know there are out there just not where. I use gambrel

plus.

Chris

www.womenintouch.com/page711896.htm

Re: Best Preservative for

> > this Recipe?

> >

> >

> > > I do not believe that rosewater and tap water are

> > the

> > > same things................Holly

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Rose water is the end product of the distillation of the rose petals to get

rose otto the essential oil. In Turkey it is a throw away. I use a lot of

it in body sprays and hand creams. Good rose water does not smell very good

and has to be mixed with other things to get the effect that is nice.

Chris

www.womenintouch.com/page711896.htm

Re: Best Preservative for this Recipe?

> Do you mean that rose water is not processed in any way?

> That it's just tap water with rose oil in it?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I get mine from Butch too. He and were taking a shower in it when she

went out to visit him. I don't care for the smell straight out of the

bottle but I do like it mixed with other stuff.

Chris

www.womenintouch.com/page711896.htm

Re: Best Preservative for this Recipe?

> In a message dated 2/17/02 8:27:04 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> christipaul@... writes:

>

> << In Turkey it is a throw away. I use a lot of

> it in body sprays and hand creams. Good rose water does not smell very

good

> and has to be mixed with other things to get the effect that is nice. >>

>

> I buy a rose hydrosol from someone who lives in Turkey and he gets his

> hydrosols direct from the distiller there! He says it's his best-selling

> item. Oh, it makes me shiver to think they would throw that good stuff

> away!!! And it smells.....heavenly. It's addictive.

>

> Christy

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/17/02 10:07:59 AM Pacific Standard Time,

christipaul@... writes:

<< I get mine from Butch too. He and were taking a shower in it when

she

went out to visit him. I don't care for the smell straight out of the

bottle but I do like it mixed with other stuff. >>

Oh, wow, a shower. I'd never want to get out. As far as the

aroma...well, I guess it's just one of those cases of different strokes for

different folks. Lots of people rave about the aroma of ylang ylang, for

instance, and yuck, I used to hate it. I am gradually....veeeeery

gradually...acquiring a " taste " for it. I have found that no matter how

therapeutic an eo is, if I don't care for the aroma, it won't work for me.

Christy

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/17/02 12:16:00 PM Pacific Standard Time,

bast1531@... writes:

> Rosewater is made by infusing roses into water, whether it's tap water,

> distilled water etc. I tried to make it once and it didn't come out as

> well at I would have liked it to. The recipe I have to make it is:

>

> Place 1 cup of rose petals in a glass bowl, cover with 2 cups of boiling

> water. let the flowers steep for 15 to 20 minutes. Strain and place into

> bottles. HTH!

> Bast

>

>

Bast,

I take the rose petals and put them in a large canning jar, fill with

distilled water (not boiled) and add a splash of vodka. I leave them in the

jar for a month, putting the jar out in sunlight once a week. After 4 weeks,

I strain the rose petals out and voila, great rose water.

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[Guest guest]

Amber,

Lets say 4 ounces is 120ml. 1% would then be 12ml. In terms of gram, phenonip

is added at theratio of 1 gram per 100 gram recipe.

Hope this helps.

Blessings,

Debbi

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Re: Best Preservative for this Recipe?

> In a message dated 2/17/02 10:07:59 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> christipaul@... writes:

>

> << I get mine from Butch too. He and were taking a shower in it

when

> she

> went out to visit him. I don't care for the smell straight out of the

> bottle but I do like it mixed with other stuff. >>

>

> Oh, wow, a shower. I'd never want to get out. As far as the

> aroma...well, I guess it's just one of those cases of different strokes

for

> different folks. Lots of people rave about the aroma of ylang ylang,

for

> instance, and yuck, I used to hate it. I am gradually....veeeeery

> gradually...acquiring a " taste " for it. I have found that no matter how

> therapeutic an eo is, if I don't care for the aroma, it won't work for me.

>

> Christy

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Amber,

You should use the Phenonip in this recipe at around

..5 to 1% (I believe, but check manufactures web site

for complete advice!). Germaben is a good preservative

but it only works in O/W or W/O emulsions. I hope this

helps out! Unfortunately Vitamin E will only prolong

the shelf life of all oil recipes.

Rochelle in Adelaide

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