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Bobby what is xl 228 and what is it suppossed to do for you? And do you kno

anything about vaccines or immunotherapy. Also if i am reading right you did the

sprycel trial at MdHouston? Was there no place closer?  Like Chicago or st

louis? Debra

Re: [ ] Re: Dr. Druker

Hi, I'm one of the ones who tolerated the side effects of Gleevec,, but after 1

1/2 years I had not achieved CCR.  I went on to Gleevec/Trisenox,

Gleevec/Zarnestra, Sprycel, and altough   I reached CCR on Sprycel, the side

effects became intolerable.  So now we're working on another trial, XL228, in

CCR with very few side effects.  To me, thanks to all these trials, I have lived

about 8 years longer than I should have, had I not been in the trials.

It isn't easy, and it would be just great if one of them would work and stay

working without the agonizing side effects. I guess I'm saying, don't give up. 

If one doesn't work, look for another.  And remember, we are putting stuff in

our bodies that no one else has ever used,

and it's a crap shoot - we have no idea if it will work or not, and we have no

idea what effect these drugs are going to have on the rest of our body. like

liver, kidneys, heart, skin, etc.

So hang in there, if one doesn't suit you, another might. They all helped me to

live to be

78, and I've been fighting this battle since 1995, and others have been at war

with cml for over 30 years!  Now THAT'S a battle !!  good luck to everyone,

Bobby

a (Bobby) Doyle

Brecksville, Ohio, USA

DX 05/1995

02/2000 - Gleevec Trial/OHSU

06/2002 - Gleevec/Trisenox Trial/OHSU

06/2003 - Gleevec/Zarnestra Trial/OHSU

04/2004 - Sprycel Trial/MDACC, CCR in 10 months

#840  -   Zavie's Zero Club

09/2006 -  out of CCR

04/29/08 - XL228 Trial/ U.of Michigan

06/02/08 - CCR ( in 4 weeks)

 

>

> I listened and watched Dr. Druker. I am confused.. Glevec was not as

> wonderful as he makes it out to be. He is talking about the many that have

> benefited from it. I did not. I wish it was that easy. Glevec tore me apart.

> Inside and out. And when he talks about Glevec is he meaning all the other

> medications like sprycel and tasigna also???????

> ____________ _________

>

> Hi Sharon,

> Gleevec is an amazing drug.......the most successful new cancer drug ever!

> 90+% of newly diagnosed in chronic phase will go into a 'remission' and

> tolerate the drug with acceptable side effects. Before Gleevec, cml was

> mostly a fatal disease..... unless you survived a BMT. There is still a %

> that Gleevec does not work well for, or they do not tolerate the

> drug.....all these newer drugs would not even be here if it was not for

> Gleevec (they are the sons/daughters of Gleevec!)

>

> Gleevec kept me alive until a more potent drug came along. I was on Gleevec

> (mostly 800mg) for over 5 years....I have now been on Sprycel for 3 years

> and this drug brought me to CCR.....but I still would not say that Gleevec

> was not a great drug (even though it was not the complete answer for me).

> There are very few drugs that have the success rate that Gleevec has....and

> it is still considered to be front line treatment for cml.

>

> You can combat many of the side effects and other problems related to

> taking a drug like this long term by working with a naturopath and

> complementary medical care. Much of this is not in the realm of traditional

> medicine or your local oncolgist. Dr. Druker is my primary onc and he has

> no problem at all with me working with a naturopath and running her

> suggestions by him and his pharmacist.. ...and the alternative care has been

> beneficial.

>

> Some people do struggle more than others to find the best treatment for

> themselves.. ..we have 2 such cml warriors on this list.....Bobbie and

> Lottie....but their fighting spirit will keep them with us. The goal (per

> Rockefeller, a fellow cmler) is to die from something other than

> cml!!

> C.

>

>

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