RE: Blacking out

[Guest guest]

Darlene;

Ask your doctor about postural hypotension, which occurs when one changes

from a horizontal (like lying in bed) to a vertical position. Sometimes it

takes a

second or two for the vascular system to compensate for the change in height

that blood must flow when standing. It can be exacerbated by certain

medications.

Devin

> Hello everyone,

>

> I haven't been on here in a long time. My 12 yo Aspergers son has

> been having a problem lately - usually when he gets out of bed in the

> morning - he sees black for several seconds. Sometimes it happens

> during the day too. It's been happening for awhile and when it

> really scared me was one day in gym class when they were working

> very, very hard it happened for a long time. He didn't say anything

> to the gym teacher and continued to exercise and they even ran up and

> down the stairs. Well - he ended up getting nauseous and dizzy and

> shakey and went to they nurses and then home for the day.

>

> I've taken him to his pediatrician and he sent him for a CBC to check

> his iron and sugar levels and those were fine. He sent me to a neuro

> opthamologist to make sure it wasn't his eyes. His eyes were fine

> and she sent him for an MRI and that was fine. Next is his

> neurologist appointment but not until the end of January.

>

> I was just wondering if anyone else had any ideas what could be

> causing this. He is on Zoloft and Risperdal and enzymes and very

> strict diet - gfcf, with no sugar, yeast, artificial everything,

> chocolate, soy, etc.

>

> Thanks,

> Darlene

[Guest guest]

Well, I had a similar problem for many years, especially after I got out of

college and was teaching school. If I had to climb to get something out of a

closet, I would see black for a few seconds. I was very thin at the time and

had low blood pressure. I managed to exercise, but it never agreed with me.

The stuff the doctor did to increase my blood pressure did not help very much.

Somehow, I think it was related to hypoglycemia, but I don't know for sure. I

never thought to tell the doctor about seeing black. I just lived like that.

I figured that I would eat a candy for a snack during the day. Not that I would

recommend eating candies. That helped a lot and the fact that I put on a little

weight doing that helped also. When my blood pressure was not so low, the

problem was so much better. I tried to gain weight because I figured the extra

weight would increase my blood pressure, and it did, and most of my seeing black

went away. In retrospect, my health deteriorated for the second time when I

entered college. In retrospect, I think it was some kind of shot I must have

had to enter college that started my second decline. I also remember getting

many series of vaccines throughout my school days and afterwards. I had no

idea these vaccines were bad things. I don't recommend any of the things I

mentioned, but I did not know what else to do. Rose

blacking out

Hello everyone,

I haven't been on here in a long time. My 12 yo Aspergers son has

been having a problem lately - usually when he gets out of bed in the

morning - he sees black for several seconds. Sometimes it happens

during the day too. It's been happening for awhile and when it

really scared me was one day in gym class when they were working

very, very hard it happened for a long time. He didn't say anything

to the gym teacher and continued to exercise and they even ran up and

down the stairs. Well - he ended up getting nauseous and dizzy and

shakey and went to they nurses and then home for the day.

I've taken him to his pediatrician and he sent him for a CBC to check

his iron and sugar levels and those were fine. He sent me to a neuro

opthamologist to make sure it wasn't his eyes. His eyes were fine

and she sent him for an MRI and that was fine. Next is his

neurologist appointment but not until the end of January.

I was just wondering if anyone else had any ideas what could be

causing this. He is on Zoloft and Risperdal and enzymes and very

strict diet - gfcf, with no sugar, yeast, artificial everything,

chocolate, soy, etc.

Thanks,

Darlene

[Guest guest]

risperdal is a fluorinated med that is it works by selective toxicity

of fluorine on brain neuroreceptors

another use of fluorine in this way is sarin nerve gas

try a search on risperdal and tardive dystonia.... meds have very

poor design for metabolic safety.... it just beats me how ssri's are

legal and the fda beats up kirkmans for taurine. bascially unless

meds are very low dose and the person has some metabolic quirk that

handles the toxic side effects of that med particularly well then its

just a question of time before things get wrecked.

> Hello everyone,

>

> I haven't been on here in a long time. My 12 yo Aspergers son has

> been having a problem lately - usually when he gets out of bed in

the

> morning - he sees black for several seconds. Sometimes it happens

> during the day too. It's been happening for awhile and when it

> really scared me was one day in gym class when they were working

> very, very hard it happened for a long time. He didn't say

anything

> to the gym teacher and continued to exercise and they even ran up

and

> down the stairs. Well - he ended up getting nauseous and dizzy and

> shakey and went to they nurses and then home for the day.

>

> I've taken him to his pediatrician and he sent him for a CBC to

check

> his iron and sugar levels and those were fine. He sent me to a

neuro

> opthamologist to make sure it wasn't his eyes. His eyes were fine

> and she sent him for an MRI and that was fine. Next is his

> neurologist appointment but not until the end of January.

>

> I was just wondering if anyone else had any ideas what could be

> causing this. He is on Zoloft and Risperdal and enzymes and very

> strict diet - gfcf, with no sugar, yeast, artificial everything,

> chocolate, soy, etc.

>

> Thanks,

> Darlene

[Guest guest]

This has happened to me periodically throughout my life (and my mom

was always taking me to the emergency room to have my blood iron and

sugar level taken - never showed anything really). It happens

usually under two conditions:

1. low blood sugar and I get up suddenly. Like what Devin described

but I don't know what you do about it. I find this doesn't happen

nearly as much since I switched to eating every 3 hours or so to

prevent hypoglycemia.

2. when there is some 'accident' and someone else gets injured. This

doesn't happy when *I* get injured...but when our class was

discussing acupuncture and sticking needles in people, I passed out.

When someone else was running at the pool and broke his leg, I

passed out. When my husband fell and we thought his ankle was

broken, I passed out. It seems like I feel all the intensity of the

situation all at once - like one huge rush. Same thing happens when

life-altering changes happened all at once (someone dies, new job,

etc.)

Since he is on a low grain, low sugar diet, you may want to access

if he is basically low-energy, or adjust eating to every 3-4 hours.

Please post if the doctor has some suggestion about the verticle

thing.

.

[Guest guest]

In the last month or so, I've had several incidents of dizziness. Only

once was I where I could take my B/P within minutes and it was 153/83...

not bad. I did not go for the pickle juice. But I'm wondering the

cause. Any suggestions/ideas???

Also (re: one of November's meeting topics, calcium) I am making an

effort to take calcium on an " empty " stomach six times a day. Part of

my solution is putting pills on my nightstand, so when I awaken during

the night I take calcium. And I'm also careful to not take it with

caffeine.

Bobbe - ('98 top wt. of 284) 3/12/03 268.5, 11/11/03 = 183.5 <85# &

47.5 " > If you can dream it... you can do it! God, give me the

dream that you planned for my life. (Don't postpone joy.)

[Guest guest]

Good idea. I will be at my CML

Appointment tomorrow, so that

is on the agenda. I also have a

conference call set up with a

labor lawyer.

With warm regards,

Matt

mtmaynor@...

[ ] Blacking out

Dear Matt,

Sue is right, you need a good checkup. A drop in blood pressure could be one

reason. I have picked Jimmy up off the floor a few times. He doesn't remember

blacking out, but when I heard the thud, I knew he was in trouble. The doctor

said it was a sudden drop in blood pressure. Fortunately he wasn't driving. It

could be any number of things and Sue has enumerated several that could be

suspect. Take care of your health.

Blessings,

Lottie