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In message <20050712110803.86832.qmail@...> you wrote:

> My brother just got kidney Stone attack couple month ago. Is that true that

you can't drink KT after you got kidney Stone?

Elvy, it is not true, on he contrary, Kombucha helps getting rid of some

kidney stones.

My husband had a phase of very painful granular kidney stones which

eventually cleared without medication.

He now drinks Kombucha regularly and never had another episode of painful

stones.

If you use your search engine on the internet, there are many sites which

mention the beneficial effect of Kombucha on kidney stones (amongst

other things):

http://www.babnet.net/en_kombucha.asp

mentions beneficial effect on kidney stones.

http://www.doctoryourself.com/kidney.html

is a very helpful site, and this particular bit is a simple explanation

about kidney stones ...

Hope that is helpful and will long term benefit your brother.

All the bst,

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No. In fact it works much the way cranberry juice does for stones only

better.

Kidney Stone

My brother just got kidney Stone attack couple month ago. Is that true that

you can't drink KT after you got kidney Stone?

Please advise...

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> Hi Bee,

>

> My brother is diagnose with a 4 mm kidney stone. Does drinking more

> water help to flush out the stone?

==>Go to this site: http://curezone.com/cleanse/kidney/default.asp

> What type of food must he avoid?

==>I wouldn't know without looking it up.

> He has high blood pressure, high cholestrol, should he add seasalt

to his lemon drink?

==>Ocean sea salt is natural minerals, particularly read sodium &

chloride which are 2 of the 7 macrominerals required, and it is the

best way to get them along with over 84 trace minerals - this salt

actually lowers blood pressure.

> he is skeptical about eating saturate fat. What is

> the best way to encourage him to go on this diet?

==>Refer him to websites:

www.thincs.com

www.westonaprice.org

www.mercola.com

Also The Optimal Diet websites which are in our links.

==>Unfortunately we do not always get heard by family member.

Bee

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A Lithotripter maybe?

lith·o·trip·ter (lth-trptr)

n.

A device that pulverizes kidney stones by passing shock waves through a

water-filled tub in which the patient sits. The procedure creates stone

fragments

small enough to be expelled in the urine.

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> Hi all

> My DS9 (AS) has just been diagnosed with a kidney stone. Our GP is

> freaking out (so am I) but it seems from a quick net search they are

> often associated with Autism and I guess (from rudimentary

> knowledge)maybe to do with the poor calcium metabolism.

I had kidney stones once. Nasty things. I was in the hospital for

three days from a secondary infection caused by the stones.

I eliminated my stones with IP6. Then I took the supplements that

calcium requires for proper absorption [magnesium, vitamin D, vitamin

K, lysine]. I have not had a kidney stone problem in many years.

Dana

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Glad all is well Marcos! Happy to hear that Kaiser was great to you. I have

Kaiser and have nothing but great things to say about them

Aloha Sharon

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Marcos

Perreau Guimaraes

Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 4:13 PM

Subject: [ ] kidney stone

I got the thing removed yesterday at Kaiser. They used a laser by

cytoscopy and ureteroscopy under general anesthesia. I am writing this

mostly because they took into account the cml for the general

anesthesia and it may be of interest for the list. Obviously they had

little experience with patients taking gleevec and took extra

precautions considering me as high risk. I guess the paragraph on

potential heart problem in the gleevec notice got the anesthesist

attention. I have to say they were very nice all along and the whole

thing was very smooth, it was sweet to have half of the nurses trying

to say a few words in French :-). I talked with 3 people of the

anesthesia team (including the md) and they did an EKG about an hour

before going to the surgery room. I guess everything checked out ok. I

can't say the awakening was pleasant, I was shaking and my bladder was

ready to explode, but it got better quickly and I was home a few hours

later. Today I am doing prety good, staying home as I don't want to

risk getting a DUI driving around.

Marcos.

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Glad you are free Marcos, Merry Christmas!

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On Dec 23, 2008, at 7:12 PM, " Marcos Perreau Guimaraes "

<montereyunderwater@...

> wrote:

> I got the thing removed yesterday at Kaiser. They used a laser by

> cytoscopy and ureteroscopy under general anesthesia. I am writing this

> mostly because they took into account the cml for the general

> anesthesia and it may be of interest for the list. Obviously they had

> little experience with patients taking gleevec and took extra

> precautions considering me as high risk. I guess the paragraph on

> potential heart problem in the gleevec notice got the anesthesist

> attention. I have to say they were very nice all along and the whole

> thing was very smooth, it was sweet to have half of the nurses trying

> to say a few words in French :-). I talked with 3 people of the

> anesthesia team (including the md) and they did an EKG about an hour

> before going to the surgery room. I guess everything checked out ok. I

> can't say the awakening was pleasant, I was shaking and my bladder was

> ready to explode, but it got better quickly and I was home a few hours

> later. Today I am doing prety good, staying home as I don't want to

> risk getting a DUI driving around.

> Marcos.

>

> --

> Marcos Perreau Guimaraes

> Suppes Brain Lab

> Ventura Hall - CSLI

> Stanford University

> 220 Panama street

> Stanford CA 94305-4101

> 650 614 2305

> 650 468 9926 (cell)

> marcospg@...

> montereyunderwater@...

> www.stanford.edu/~marcospg/

>

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Happy to hear you are through with the Kidney stone and happily home for the

holidays

Merry Christmas

Anita

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From: Marcos Perreau Guimaraes <montereyunderwater@...>

< >

Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:12:37 PM

Subject: [ ] kidney stone

I got the thing removed yesterday at Kaiser. They used a laser by

cytoscopy and ureteroscopy under general anesthesia. I am writing this

mostly because they took into account the cml for the general

anesthesia and it may be of interest for the list. Obviously they had

little experience with patients taking gleevec and took extra

precautions considering me as high risk. I guess the paragraph on

potential heart problem in the gleevec notice got the anesthesist

attention. I have to say they were very nice all along and the whole

thing was very smooth, it was sweet to have half of the nurses trying

to say a few words in French :-). I talked with 3 people of the

anesthesia team (including the md) and they did an EKG about an hour

before going to the surgery room. I guess everything checked out ok. I

can't say the awakening was pleasant, I was shaking and my bladder was

ready to explode, but it got better quickly and I was home a few hours

later. Today I am doing prety good, staying home as I don't want to

risk getting a DUI driving around.

Marcos.

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Marcos Perreau Guimaraes

Suppes Brain Lab

Ventura Hall - CSLI

Stanford University

220 Panama street

Stanford CA 94305-4101

650 614 2305

650 468 9926 (cell)

marcospgstanford (DOT) edu

montereyunderwater@ gmail.com

www.stanford. edu/~marcospg/

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Marcos

 

Now you are stone free- wasn't that a Jimi Hendrix song? Glad to hear you are

feeling better. Thansk for educating your docs on Gleevec- one medical team dowm

1 million more to go. Happy Holidays!!

--- On Tue, 12/23/08, Marcos Perreau Guimaraes <montereyunderwater@...>

wrote:

From: Marcos Perreau Guimaraes <montereyunderwater@...>

Subject: [ ] kidney stone

" " < >

Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 4:12 PM

I got the thing removed yesterday at Kaiser. They used a laser by

cytoscopy and ureteroscopy under general anesthesia. I am writing this

mostly because they took into account the cml for the general

anesthesia and it may be of interest for the list. Obviously they had

little experience with patients taking gleevec and took extra

precautions considering me as high risk. I guess the paragraph on

potential heart problem in the gleevec notice got the anesthesist

attention. I have to say they were very nice all along and the whole

thing was very smooth, it was sweet to have half of the nurses trying

to say a few words in French :-). I talked with 3 people of the

anesthesia team (including the md) and they did an EKG about an hour

before going to the surgery room. I guess everything checked out ok. I

can't say the awakening was pleasant, I was shaking and my bladder was

ready to explode, but it got better quickly and I was home a few hours

later. Today I am doing prety good, staying home as I don't want to

risk getting a DUI driving around.

Marcos.

--

Marcos Perreau Guimaraes

Suppes Brain Lab

Ventura Hall - CSLI

Stanford University

220 Panama street

Stanford CA 94305-4101

650 614 2305

650 468 9926 (cell)

marcospgstanford (DOT) edu

montereyunderwater@ gmail.com

www.stanford. edu/~marcospg/

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They were cautious without me having to ask. Though I think anybody

with cml getting surgery should make sure the anesthesia team take our

case seriously.

Happy Holidays everyone, and best wishes for 2009.

Marcos.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 5:09 PM, china neal <chimera46@...> wrote:

> Marcos

>

> Now you are stone free- wasn't that a Jimi Hendrix song? Glad to hear you

> are feeling better. Thansk for educating your docs on Gleevec- one medical

> team dowm 1 million more to go. Happy Holidays!!

>

>

>

> From: Marcos Perreau Guimaraes <montereyunderwater@...>

> Subject: [ ] kidney stone

> " " < >

> Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 4:12 PM

>

> I got the thing removed yesterday at Kaiser. They used a laser by

> cytoscopy and ureteroscopy under general anesthesia. I am writing this

> mostly because they took into account the cml for the general

> anesthesia and it may be of interest for the list. Obviously they had

> little experience with patients taking gleevec and took extra

> precautions considering me as high risk. I guess the paragraph on

> potential heart problem in the gleevec notice got the anesthesist

> attention. I have to say they were very nice all along and the whole

> thing was very smooth, it was sweet to have half of the nurses trying

> to say a few words in French :-). I talked with 3 people of the

> anesthesia team (including the md) and they did an EKG about an hour

> before going to the surgery room. I guess everything checked out ok. I

> can't say the awakening was pleasant, I was shaking and my bladder was

> ready to explode, but it got better quickly and I was home a few hours

> later. Today I am doing prety good, staying home as I don't want to

> risk getting a DUI driving around.

> Marcos.

>

> --

> Marcos Perreau Guimaraes

> Suppes Brain Lab

> Ventura Hall - CSLI

> Stanford University

> 220 Panama street

> Stanford CA 94305-4101

> 650 614 2305

> 650 468 9926 (cell)

> marcospgstanford (DOT) edu

> montereyunderwater@ gmail.com

> www.stanford. edu/~marcospg/

>

>

>

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The great majority of kidney stores are calcium oxylate, which means oxalic acid

bonded with calcium. In 1983 a study of 45,000 men [Curhan GC. NEJM 1993 Mar

25:328(12):833-838.] turned the medical world on it's rear end when it showed

that the men who had the most calcium intake had the least amount of stones.

It was determined that if one has less oxalic acid entering the body, less

oxalic acid has a chance to bond with calcium in the process called

nephrolithiasis. Nephro = kidney, lithiasis = stone formation, which is the

spontaneous formation of stones that can happen when there is more oxalic acid

than the body can handle.

This was determined to be because calcium bonds with oxalic acid in the

intestine, which comes from certain foods, like spinach and then all fruits and

vegetables, and before it can go through the intestinal lining, it is carried

out with calcium in feces.

Less oxalic acid in the body equals less stones. Later studies showed that

taking calcium with meals reduced the potential for stone formation. [Takei K,

et al. Oral calcium supplement decreases urinary oxalate excretion in patients

with enteric hyperoxaluria. Urol Int 1998;61:192-195.] Again, if calcium is

present when oxalic acid is present it bonds with some oxalic acid and the

compound, which cannot be absorbed through the intestinal lining -- only free

isolated vitamins and minerals are carried through the lining -- is carried out

of the body in feces.

Stone formation has also been shown to be reduced by Vitamin B6 intake. " In a

study of 121,701 females (Curhan 1999), who were taking between 10 and 500 mg of

Vitamin B6 per day, higher doses were stated to be associated with less kidney

stones. For instance, a 21% decrease in stone formation was seen in healthy

women who took 200 mg per day. [ P, et al. Effects of oral pyridoxine

upon plasma and 24-hour urinary oxalate levels in normal subjects and stone

formers with idiopathic hypercalciuria. Urol Res. 18:393-396, 1990.]

...........and Vitamin C at 1,500 mg per day. " In the large-scale Harvard

Prospective Health Professional Follow-Up Study, those groups in the highest

quintile of Vitamin C intake, above 1,500 mg per day, had a lower risk of kidney

stones than the groups in the lowest quintiles. " [Gerster, H. No contribution of

ascorbic acid to renal calcium oxalate stones. Ann Nutr Metab

1997;41(5):269-282.]

So, the data says that calcium itself is not the problem. Although, this notion

is still going around medical circles, this is likely shooting at the wrong

target.

Can calcium contribute to the problem if the other factors are not addressed?

Sounds likely that you have to have calcium, too, to form the stones, but

overall an approach that solved the problem itself would be to make sure one has

the nutrients that are shown to reduce stone formation, including calcium,

rather than suffering a calcium deficiency that can cause bone loss.

Mooney

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> > From: rockovach <rockovach@...>

> > Subject: Kidney Stone

> >

> > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 9:46 PM

> >

> > Hi all

> >

> > Did a trip to the emergency room last week. It was a kidney

> > stone.

> >

> > I increased my vit D from 1000iu to 3000iu about three

> > months ago.

> >

> > I have been taking calcium  microcrystalline

> > hydrxoyapatite 2000mg 2 x day since my 2002 Boston Marathon

> > heel fracture.

> >

> > Switched from soy yogurt to Brown Cow whole milk yogurt in

> > Jan.

> >

> > Re started protein shakes over a year ago: whey, glutamine,

> > flax, progreens about 5 a week.

> >

> > Meds: Intelence, Isentress, truvada, famcyclovir

> >

> > a good AIDS protocol of vits...vit c 3 grams 4 x a day

> > since the dawn of time.

> >

> > Not sure why the kidney stone happened. Didn't get one on

> > crixavan.

> >

> > Any thoughts?

> >

> > Marathon Man

> > Kovacev

> >

> >

> >

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Joe

excellent thought.

On my own I cut in half my calcium supplement intake. Until I get a test.

Peace Marathon Man

Steve

>

>

> " Not sure why the kidney stone happened. "

>

> Check your calcium results on your old lab reports. Mine were high because of

a calcium supplement I had been taking. My nephrologist told me that high

calcium levels can lead to kidney stones. He had me stop the supplement and my

calcium is in the normal range now. Since you are taking a calcium supplement,

this may apply to you.

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