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Every county seat is supposed to have a law libary at the

courthouse.........go and ask the law librarian for the States info on

medical standards or if you have a major university law school in your

area go there and you can get help............you also should be able to

access all of you States Statutes from your computer.......just do a

search using the state you live in and the word statutes.......sherri

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> From: lc lott <lclott@...>

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> Hi all-

> Heres another update. Saw my lawyer on Fri and we are starting the

> lawsuit against the LTD co who refuses to pay me disability. Hoping

> just the threat of a lawsuit will make them cave and pay me.

> When we discussed the suit against the docs the problem we are going to

> have is: Did the 5 docs that failed to treat me folow the standard of

> care in the state of MI?

> Any body have an idea how I can find out what the standard of care is

> either in the state or even if there is a national standard maybe by

> the CDC? I know they have the reporting standard but do they make the

> standard of care for the US?

> Any info would be appreciated.

> L

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Hi ,

I don't think there is a standard care for Lyme, since there are two schools

of thought. The insuranace companies use the one they want. Your best bet

is to get every article you can to dispute their " no lyme " in Michigan

brains. All of us will probably testify for you that we need/needed

treatment right away.

Love ya,

Connie, MI

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Hi ,

Our new attorney general has a web site, but I can't remember what the ad on

tv said, I think it was something with her name Granholm? in it.

Kelley was the Ag for so long i can't remember the new one's name. See what

she has to say.

Hugs,

Connie

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--- sherri borgquist <srb13741@...> wrote:

> From: sherri borgquist <srb13741@...>

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> Every county seat is supposed to have a law libary

> at the

> courthouse.........go and ask the law librarian for

> the States info on

> medical standards or if you have a major university

> law school in your

> area go there and you can get help............you

> also should be able to

> access all of you States Statutes from your

> computer.......just do a

> search using the state you live in and the word

> statutes.......sherri

> (alias lymebrain)

>

> Sherri-

Thanks Ill try that. I know my lawyer will be able to get it but I want

to see for myself what the standard is. I have gotten a little paranoid

about everyhting and guess I wont believe it till I see it myself.

L

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> >

> > From: lc lott <lclott@...>

> >

> > Hi all-

> > Heres another update. Saw my lawyer on Fri and we

> are starting the

> > lawsuit against the LTD co who refuses to pay me

> disability. Hoping

> > just the threat of a lawsuit will make them cave

> and pay me.

> > When we discussed the suit against the docs the

> problem we are going to

> > have is: Did the 5 docs that failed to treat me

> folow the standard of

> > care in the state of MI?

> > Any body have an idea how I can find out what the

> standard of care is

> > either in the state or even if there is a national

> standard maybe by

> > the CDC? I know they have the reporting standard

> but do they make the

> > standard of care for the US?

> > Any info would be appreciated.

> > L

> >

> >

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--- Cslyme@... wrote:

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> Hi ,

> I don't think there is a standard care for Lyme,

> since there are two schools

> of thought. The insuranace companies use the one

> they want. Your best bet

> is to get every article you can to dispute their " no

> lyme " in Michigan

> brains. All of us will probably testify for you

> that we need/needed

> treatment right away.

> Love ya,

> Connie, MI

>

> Connie-

If there is no standard of care in MI that will really help my suit as

I can have experts from other states evaluate my case and determine if

appropriate care was given. I also told my lawyer that we would have a

hard time getting any doc here to testify against these people because

of what happened to Dr. Natole. So we will have to go out of the state

to get expert witness testimony as far as a Physician.

Thanks for the support with the testimony. I will mention that to my

lawyer when I talk to him next week. I know he is going to consult with

that friend of mine that is a surgeon that I worked with. He wants him

to give his opinion on whether or not I recieved appropriate care in

general. And I know Dave will tell him that there was a definate

abandonment on several issues.

Im ready to blow the " no lyme in MI " theory right out of the water.

Ill be in touch.

Love ya,

L

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I know that most hospitals have the standard of care posted and you receive

a copy too. I don't know if this standard of care goes for doctors outside

of the hospital setting too.

Kiana M. Rossi

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I've been slimed with Lyme ...

And now it is time

To end this strife

And take back my life!

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--- Cslyme@... wrote:

> From: Cslyme@...

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> Hi ,

> Our new attorney general has a web site, but I can't

> remember what the ad on

> tv said, I think it was something with her name

> Granholm? in it.

> Kelley was the Ag for so long i can't remember the

> new one's name. See what

> she has to say.

> Hugs,

> Connie

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> Connie-

Ill try to look her up and if I cant find anything I guess I will call

and see what info I can get. Thanks for the info.

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--- Cslyme@... wrote:

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> Hi ,

> let me know if you need us,

> Con

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> Connie-

Thanks I appreciate it. Even if nothing comes out of this suit for me

personally at least it will make the facts known that there is Lyme in

MI. I will continue to fight for all of us not only here in MI but

every where else. Maybe when there are enough lawsuits established

these egotistical docs will realize that this is a true problem and pts

arent going to be mistreated and labeled any more.

Maybe I should run for office hu? How about Gov. LOL

Thanks again.

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  • 9 years later...

I am finding that my onocologist usually has patients that " either die or

are cured " . Like, she doesn't know how to handle an ongoing patient. I am

actually trying to get into a trial, and she seems excited that I'll be -

um- going elsewhere.

Someone else will probably have specific steps to take. But, I'm just

writing to let you know: I know how you feel. My other choices for doctors

are one that is retiring soon and has a bad bedside manner OR a doctor who

speaks broken English. I chose the English speaking woman who was REALLY

nice the first appointment... since then it has gone downhill.

Email would be cool. Though, not helpful if she doesn't answer.

Good luck!

Tammy

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Wood

Things

Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:18 PM

Subject: [ ] Standard of Care

I haven't written for almost two years. I was Dx in February of '07 and

referred to my oncologist. I had an introductory office call and one more

about a month later. I've been on 400mg of Gleevec since the beginning.

Last September the doctor did an BMB. She emailed me and said that things

looked fine and to keep taking the Gleevec.

I've emailed her a couple of times, the last time being in June of this year

asking about the need for me to have a CBC blood test. She hasn't

contacted me on her own at all.

I have had several of the common side effects and am currently having a

tough time with skin rashes. If anyone knows of a good treatment for the

dry, red, itchy spots please fill me in................when I emailed my

oncologist today and asked about the rash she asked me if my dermatologist

knew what caused it...............and I was thinking that Gleevec must have

caused it and she should have known that.........maybe I'm wrong?

Anyway.........my main question is whether or not other CML patients have

such a loose connection to their doctor.......or should I be expecting more

contact, and more concern from my doctor????? I don't complain

much.......maybe that's a problem? Thanks in advance for the replies.

Don

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Oh no Don,

Reading your email pretty much shocked me! Have you not been doing regular

(monthly+) CBC's? What about 3 month PCR testing? If so, how do you receive

your results? You should be seeing your hem/oc every 3 months. What

milestones in response have you reached (meaning how is the gleevec working

for you ) I would STRONGLY, STRONGLY suggest (tell) you to seek a

hemotologist oncologist. Your skin rash can very distinctly be a side effect

- and you should NOT be having to educate your Dr on this. This standard of

care is terrible. Where are you located? I am sure anyone on the list will

have a CML expert they can recommend. Do not hesitate- this is your life,

your quality of life..

To give you an example - my husband was diagnosed ) in October 2006. He

quickly reached all milestones in regards to response but has CBC done every

month, PCR every 3 months , a visit with his hem/oc every 3 months as well.

We can call her anytime with side effects and she would see us at any point

between the visits. We requested a second bone marrow biopsy this year, it

was done. I know fellow patients who have had CML for 8-9 years and they

still see their Dr's every 3-6 months .

Let us know how to help -

shalyn

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Wood

Things

Sent: October-28-08 7:18 PM

Subject: [ ] Standard of Care

I haven't written for almost two years. I was Dx in February of '07 and

referred to my oncologist. I had an introductory office call and one more

about a month later. I've been on 400mg of Gleevec since the beginning.

Last September the doctor did an BMB. She emailed me and said that things

looked fine and to keep taking the Gleevec.

I've emailed her a couple of times, the last time being in June of this year

asking about the need for me to have a CBC blood test. She hasn't

contacted me on her own at all.

I have had several of the common side effects and am currently having a

tough time with skin rashes. If anyone knows of a good treatment for the

dry, red, itchy spots please fill me in................when I emailed my

oncologist today and asked about the rash she asked me if my dermatologist

knew what caused it...............and I was thinking that Gleevec must have

caused it and she should have known that.........maybe I'm wrong?

Anyway.........my main question is whether or not other CML patients have

such a loose connection to their doctor.......or should I be expecting more

contact, and more concern from my doctor????? I don't complain

much.......maybe that's a problem? Thanks in advance for the replies.

Don

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Hi Don, as far as the rash goes, I went to a dermatologist when I had a terrible

rash, on gleevec, she did a biopsy and said it was from the drug.  She treated

it with a cortisone cream, it lasted several months and was the pits!  No help

with the doctor problem,I am looking for a new one myself because the one I have

is so egotistical and jealous of Dr. Talpaz, I can't stand going to him.  Good

luck, Bobby

a (Bobby) Doyle

Brecksville, Ohio, USA

DX 05/1995

02/2000 - Gleevec Trial/OHSU

06/2002 - Gleevec/Trisenox Trial/OHSU

06/2003 - Gleevec/Zarnestra Trial/OHSU

04/2004 - Sprycel Trial/MDACC, CCR in 10 months

#840  -   Zavie's Zero Club

09/2006 -  out of CCR

04/29/08 - XL228 Trial/ U.of Michigan

06/02/08 - CCR ( in 4 weeks)

 

From: Wood Things <donanddawn47@...>

Subject: [ ] Standard of Care

Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 10:18 PM

I haven't written for almost two years.  I was Dx in February of '07 and

referred to my oncologist.  I had an introductory office call and one more about

a month later.  I've been on 400mg of Gleevec since the beginning.   Last

September the doctor did an BMB.  She emailed me and said that things looked

fine and to keep taking the Gleevec.  

I've emailed her a couple of times, the last time being in June of this year

asking about the need for me to have a CBC blood test.    She hasn't contacted

me on her own at all.

 

I have had several of the common side effects and am currently having a tough

time with skin rashes.   If anyone knows of a good treatment for the dry, red,

itchy spots please fill me in.......... ......when I emailed my oncologist today

and asked about the rash she asked me if my dermatologist knew what caused

it.......... .....and I was thinking that Gleevec must have caused it and she

should have known that........ .maybe I'm wrong?

 

Anyway...... ...my main question is whether or not other CML patients have such

a loose connection to their doctor...... .or should I be expecting more contact,

and more concern from my doctor?????    I don't complain much.......maybe that's

a problem?   Thanks in advance for the replies.     Don

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10/28/2008

Hello Don,

What you describe is not a loose connection to your doctor! It is downright

neglect on the part of the doctor. You need to find someone who cares about you

and your needs. Remember this about any doctor: the doctor is your paid

employee and nothing more. The doctor is well-paid for the work he or she does,

thus you are owed the respect and care your doctor was trained to provide. Your

doctor is merely the technician who works on your body. Without you and his or

her other patients, the doctor would be out of work. Would you keep a mechanic

if he showed such indifference when working on your car,? Your health is

certainly more important than your car.

You and your insurance company) are the CEOs of your health. Good doctors

always keep in contact with their patients by having blood work drawn and

monthly evaluation appointments. The good doctors also encourage their patients

to call them if they are concerned about something regarding their health. A

call allows the doctor to assess the level of anxiety expressed by the patient:

it cannot be done in an e-mail unless it is an e-mail chatting session.

Find someone who cares about you to care for you!

Sandie

---- Wood Things <donanddawn47@...> wrote:

> I haven't written for almost two years.  I was Dx in February of '07 and

referred to my oncologist.  I had an introductory office call and one more

about a month later.  I've been on 400mg of Gleevec since the beginning.  

Last September the doctor did an BMB.  She emailed me and said that things

looked fine and to keep taking the Gleevec.  

> I've emailed her a couple of times, the last time being in June of this year

asking about the need for me to have a CBC blood test.    She hasn't

contacted me on her own at all.

>  

> I have had several of the common side effects and am currently having a tough

time with skin rashes.   If anyone knows of a good treatment for the dry, red,

itchy spots please fill me in................when I emailed my oncologist today

and asked about the rash she asked me if my dermatologist knew what caused

it...............and I was thinking that Gleevec must have caused it and she

should have known that.........maybe I'm wrong?

>  

> Anyway.........my main question is whether or not other CML patients have such

a loose connection to their doctor.......or should I be expecting more contact,

and more concern from my doctor?????    I don't complain much.......maybe

that's a problem?   Thanks in advance for the replies.     Don

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