Giving Blood

[Guest guest]

YES. I have been donating blood every two months for the past 20

years. AB - Dwarfism is not a blood disease. If you do not know,

then I strongly suggest talking with the Doctor.

Donating Blood

> You must be 17 or over and 110lbs to donate, but can LP's still

> donate even though they may fit this criteria? Just a thought.

May

> sound silly but you never know.

> -Lila

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/12/2001 8:57:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

joey-hagler@... writes:

YES. I have been donating blood every two months for the past 20

years. AB - Dwarfism is not a blood disease. If you do not know,

then I strongly suggest talking with the Doctor.

I personal don't believe this...

Some LP's can donate while others cannot. It has nothing to do with a

disease. I personally cannot even donate blood for myself, cause my veins

roll. I tried to do this for an operation and found out that they cannot use

the butterfly needle. If you are an LP and they use the Butterfly needle

then beware they use the regular needle.

Lois

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr.: ph A. Hagler " " )

I am replying to your email and the listserver by stating that I replied

to your email in private. I will not forward it back to the listserver

because I find this as very petty.

Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Lady! You need to go back and read the G.D. emails, there are

three of them! I never put down no LP! TRY READING ALL THE G.D.

EMAILS BEFORE MAKE A STUPID REMARK THAT YOU APPEAR TO KNOW NOTHING

ABOUT!

PS: My father and I are 4 F-ing 2!

Re: re: Giving blood

In a message dated 9/12/2001 9:53:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

joey-hagler@... writes:

What is it you do not believe?

You putting LP's down because they say they are unable to donate

blood. If

you can then that's great. But don't put a disease is keeping LP's

from

donating.

[Guest guest]

Not all dwarfs are able to give blood. You must weigh at least 90 pounds, be

in good health and have very good veins.

I weigh 80 pounds and have small (child size) veins and am not allowed to

give blood as needle is to large for my veins.

C

[Guest guest]

Hey Cara --

I have always rationalized that it's more altruistic not to lose

weight so I can continue to donate blood. As Jeff Goldblum said in

The Big Chill " I don't know anyone who could get through the day

without two or three juicy rationalizations. "

The trick is not to take a full pint. I want to say they take 500

cc's but when I looked on ask.com the conversion of a full pint is

480 cc's so I know that's not right. Ask the blood bank folks what

the conversion is. The one time someone did take a full pint was also

the first time I ever fainted.

Hope this helps!

Rose

--- Cara wrote:

> Any achons out there with experience in donating blood (not related

> to surgery)?

[Guest guest]

I've donated twice this year. Never had a problem with donating. I'm an achon,

4'5 " , 120ish lbs.

Just remember to hang around for a little while afterwards. Have a cookie or two

and some juice.

I'm only glad our Lion's club holds blood every 10 weeks or so. Makes donating

easy.

And if you're in the area of eastern Pa, we're doing another drive on Nov. 7th.

More info on www.sauconvalleylions.org (sorry, had to plug our club) )

Good luck Cara.

egan921 <cara.egan@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have a question about giving blood...since I am now well over the

weight restriction (sigh), I figure I should be fine...but my boss

(who's an MD in internal medicine) thinks it might be different for

dwarfs b/c we follow a different height/weight chart, that taking a

full unit might be too much.

Any achons out there with experience in donating blood (not related

to surgery)?

Cara

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[Guest guest]

-Hi Cara,

I have donated blood several times. Lately they have only been

taking 1/2 of the units but I have donated full units before.

Take care,

Carol

-- In dwarfism , " egan921 " <cara.egan@v...> wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have a question about giving blood...since I am now well over the

> weight restriction (sigh), I figure I should be fine...but my boss

> (who's an MD in internal medicine) thinks it might be different for

> dwarfs b/c we follow a different height/weight chart, that taking a

> full unit might be too much.

>

> Any achons out there with experience in donating blood (not related

> to surgery)?

>

> Cara

[Guest guest]

Hi Cara,

I can't even give enough blood for lab work. I just had a physical

and the nurse at my Doctor's office tired 3 times and only got a

trickle. They sent me to the lab to get my blood taken and the lab

people stuck me 3 more times and kept digging around and one person

was praying (no joke), " Dear Lord please let me get her vein this

time. " She got a trickle and then the vein collasped and they

finally got it the next stick. I swear I have the worst veins so I

can never donate.

Best wishes and just be careful.

Sincerely, Patti : )

[Guest guest]

I have the same problem. I always dred the words, " we need to get some

blood " because I know what is going to happen. I wish there is something that

could be done about it.

Susie

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

I tried giving blood at a school blood drive and I was pretty much

laughed out of the trailer. She was a friend of mine so she could

laugh...lol...but

they said that I wasnt nearly big enough and they would have had to scoop me

off the floor. I weighed 80lbs at the time. It didnt have to do with me

being a dwarf just my weight.

[Guest guest]

Zavie (or any learned fold from this board):

Someone mentioned giving blood today and

I was under the impression that we were not

able to give blood.? So my question is, can

we donate blood to blood banks and blood

drives?

Matt

Florida

[Guest guest]

Hi Matt,

The answer is no, you shouldn't.

Zavie

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Subject: [ ] Giving Blood

Zavie (or any learned fold from this board):

Someone mentioned giving blood today and

I was under the impression that we were not

able to give blood.? So my question is, can

we donate blood to blood banks and blood

drives?

Matt

Florida

[Guest guest]

I think I should Bob. Bit late though eh? Oooops.

I don't know how long I've had antibodies, but been having trouble for over 6/7

years, and was still giving...

Thanks

Jean

" bob.m9uk " <Bob.m9uk@...> wrote:

Hi

Ask the blood transfusion service, if you're unsure.

[Guest guest]

Yes, you DID ask this question before because I remember

thinking I must try and find the answer as I too have wondered about this. It

must have gone out of my mind, so thanks for asking again - here is what

Shomon says:

" Hypothyroid patients who are taking levothyroxine (i.e.,

Synthroid), Cytomel, Thyrolar, or natural thyroid products like Armour and are

in the normal thyroid range can give blood if they don't have any other

precluding conditions.

Graves' disease or hyperthyroidism patients who are on antithyroid medicines,

or who are not currently in normal thyroid range, cannot give blood.

Anyone with any other autoimmune disease should not give blood, unless

they are asymptomatic and off all medications for one month.

There is a chart online listing the

most common reasons you can't give blood. But, in terms of thyroid

patients, and some of the more common autoimmune disease, you specifically

should NOT give blood if you have:

·

's Disease

·

Adrenal Disorders

·

Sinus or respiratory infections, colds or flu symptoms

·

Rheumatoid Arthritis, if you're on steroids or immunosuppressive

drugs.

·

Lupus, unless asymptomatic, and off all medication for at least

a month

·

Multiple sclerosis

Also, you can't give blood if

you:

·

Have ever used illegal intravenous drugs, even once

·

Are a man who has had sex with another man since 1977, even once

·

Are a hemophiliac

·

Have had a positive HIV test

·

Have had hepatitis any time after your eleventh birthday

·

Have had cancer (except localized skin cancer)

·

Have had a heart attack or stroke

·

Have taken Tegison for psoriasis

Detailed lists of drugs you might be taking and whether they

preclude your giving blood is located as a PDF file at Medication

Reference List.

And a detailed list of medical conditions that can affect your ability to give

blood is listed as a PDF file at Medical

Conditions Guidelines. "

http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa091201a.htm

Luv - Sheila

I'm positive I posted already,

asking about giving blood, but can't find it anywhere. Can you still give blood

when you have hashi's, since it's my body producing the antibodies?? I have

given since I was 17, except when I was feeling particularly tired.

Jean

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jean

I have Hashi's and am also a blood donor, I also take Armour Thyroid. I have no

porblems giving blood, however I had to be on a stable dose for a year before I

was allowed to start donating and every session that I go in they check the

British Formulary to make sure Armour is in there.

Hope this helps

Jacqui xx

[Guest guest]

My sister had been a blood donor for several years when she was diagnosed with

hypo-t. When she next went to donate she was told that if she was taking

thyroxine she would'nt be able to be a blood donor any more; and they took her

book away.

Louise.

>

> Hi Jean

>

> I have Hashi's and am also a blood donor, I also take Armour Thyroid. I have

no porblems giving blood, however I had to be on a stable dose for a year before

I was allowed to start donating and every session that I go in they check the

British Formulary to make sure Armour is in there.

>

> Hope this helps

>

> Jacqui xx

>

[Guest guest]

That is so bizarre! I always declare the tablets I am taking and apart from the

nurse running off to check they are ok I have never been told not to donate. I

have also donated whilst on both Levothyroxine and Armour. I'm due again in

June so will ask if different areas have differnt rules

Jacqui

>

> My sister had been a blood donor for several years when she was diagnosed with

hypo-t. When she next went to donate she was told that if she was taking

thyroxine she would'nt be able to be a blood donor any more; and they took her

book away.

>

> Louise.

[Guest guest]

It is odd, but this was some years ago and my sister's never been back and asked

about it since; maybe the rules have changed since then?

Louise.

>

> That is so bizarre! I always declare the tablets I am taking and apart from

the nurse running off to check they are ok I have never been told not to donate.

I have also donated whilst on both Levothyroxine and Armour. I'm due again in

June so will ask if different areas have differnt rules

>

> Jacqui

[Guest guest]

You can donate if you have hypothyroidism, but not if the

hypothyroidism is because of an autoimmune problem i.e. Hashimoto's. If you

have antibodies, you should not donate and you should declare this to the blood

transfusing centre staff.

Luv - Sheila

That is so bizarre! I always declare the

tablets I am taking and apart from the nurse running off to check they are ok I

have never been told not to donate. I have also donated whilst on both

Levothyroxine and Armour. I'm due again in June so will ask if different areas

have differnt rules

[Guest guest]

>>>You can donate if you have hypothyroidism, but not if the hypothyroidism is because of an autoimmune problem i.e. Hashimoto's. If you have antibodies, you should not donate and you should declare this to the blood transfusing centre staff.<<<<<

Another reason for doing all the right tests and doctors being up front with patients. How many innocent people who believe there is nothing wrong with them despite feeling not right and their doctors confirming they are 'normal' are also blood donors, and what about the innocent people receiving the blood.

I wonder if there are any other incidences where there is a knock on effect for not doing the full testing and recognising the test results when they are done.

Lilian

[Guest guest]

>Hi Everyone,

God I feel terrible now, I have Hashimoto's and Dr Peatfield thinks I have had

it for twelve to fourteen years, I only recently gave up being a blood donor.

This was because I had blood transfusions many years ago and there is a concern

re mad cow disease.

I would hate to think I was giving happily all theses years hoping I was helping

but actualy making people ill.

Gulity

Stephie

> Another reason for doing all the right tests and doctors being up front with

patients. How many innocent people who believe there is nothing wrong with

them despite feeling not right and their doctors confirming they are 'normal'

are also blood donors, and what about the innocent people receiving the blood.

>

> I wonder if there are any other incidences where there is a knock on effect

for not doing the full testing and recognising the test results when they are

done.

>

> Lilian

>

[Guest guest]

This puts me in rather a difficult position. I only found out about the

antibodies quite recently and when I asked if that meant I had Hashi's the Dr

said no so I didn't bother to tell the blood people.

I shall tell the blood people and hope I haven't hurt anyone in the meantime. I

feel really awful now, I have been dontating because I know people who needed

transfusions and thought I would help out and I could well have been hurting

them. Better that I know now and can stop before I cause too much damage

Jacqui xx

> You can donate if you have hypothyroidism, but not if the hypothyroidism is

> because of an autoimmune problem i.e. Hashimoto's. If you have antibodies,

> you should not donate and you should declare this to the blood transfusing

> centre staff.

>

>

>

> Luv - Sheila

[Guest guest]

You should not feel guilty Jacqui. If anyone was harmed it is purely on the shoulders of your GP. In fact, could this not be part of our campaigning for better diagnosis as if this can cause potential harm to others, then indirectly the doctor is "doing harm" (by omission).

If the GP says that it will not harm anyone he can always be referred to the blood transfusion people.

I wonder what would be the outcome if you go back to your GP and confront him with this situation.

Lilian

This puts me in rather a difficult position. I only found out about the antibodies quite recently and when I asked if that meant I had Hashi's the Dr said no so I didn't bother to tell the blood people.