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Oh Marie :(

I hate to tell you this, but this is pretty typical for a

conventional doctor to act like this. How stupid of this doc to not

know what to test you for!! She darn better have ordered atleast the

tests that you told her to from what we talked about.. Well.. get

the numbers and don't forget to post the lab ranges since every lab

is different and ranges could be different... we'll get to the

bottom of this my friend, don't you worry.

Hugs...

Dawn

> I wrote you, but posted it under Marie. Sorry. Please read...

> Marie!!

>

>

>

> Hi Marie..

> Happy to hear that your up and running again with your

computer.. I

> wondered where you were!

>

> So, if you get those lab numbers back from the doc.. please

post.

>

> Remember to post them with the actual ranges.. for example..

>

> Tsh is usually something like between .5 and 5.5 ...

something like

> that. With TSH anything above 3 is suspect of hypo and even

2..

> although the lab range is up to 5.5.

>

> The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists have changed the range from

5.5 to

> 3.0... but for some reason the laboratory reports do not

reflect

> that new number and if your doc is not familiar with this she

will

> say you are normal.

>

>

> Also with the Free T's... your numbers should be in the upper

1/3 of

> the range... you could be just slipping over the minimum and

not

> know it.. she's telling you your normal.

>

> ... I saw that someone here said they used silica pellets...

> actually silica does work.. it is great for hair and nails.

>

> Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I first had my hair loss issue

I

> went to an herbalist who recommended it... The hair did stop

falling

> out within a week.. although it is falling out again now..

that's

> another story.

>

> Hugs.. Dawn

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician

or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

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Beth,

I'm about an hour from town, Did you say town or is it my

alzheimers again?

Dawn

In , " Beth S. " <schaffe88@y...> wrote:

> Dawn,

>

> That's pretty far from me. Thought maybe you were closer.

>

> Beth S.

>

> Dawn A <daldre@y...> wrote:

>

> Oh yeah, Cranford, New Jersey. It's North Jersey, about 15 mins

from

> the Holland Tunnel.

> Dawn

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

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Hi Dawn,

It is your alzheimers again but that is ok. :) I'm from the Philadelphia area.

Beth S.

Dawn A <daldre@...> wrote:

Beth, I'm about an hour from town, Did you say town or is it my alzheimers again?DawnIn , "Beth S." <schaffe88@y...> wrote:> Dawn,> > That's pretty far from me. Thought maybe you were closer.> > Beth S.> > Dawn A <daldre@y...> wrote:> > Oh yeah, Cranford, New Jersey. It's North Jersey, about 15 mins from > the Holland Tunnel.> Dawn> > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what

the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> >

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Beth,

Oh gees, Philly is right around the corner... 'bout and hour and

1/2... Sheesh, you're a neighbor!!!

Hugs

Dawn

In , " Beth S. " <schaffe88@y...> wrote:

> Hi Dawn,

>

> It is your alzheimers again but that is ok. :) I'm from the

Philadelphia area.

>

> Beth S.

>

>

> Dawn A <daldre@y...> wrote:

>

> Beth,

> I'm about an hour from town, Did you say town or is it

my

> alzheimers again?

> Dawn

>

> In , " Beth S. " <schaffe88@y...> wrote:

> > Dawn,

> >

> > That's pretty far from me. Thought maybe you were closer.

> >

> > Beth S.

> >

> > Dawn A <daldre@y...> wrote:

> >

> > Oh yeah, Cranford, New Jersey. It's North Jersey, about 15 mins

> from

> > the Holland Tunnel.

> > Dawn

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given

> by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

> treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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Thanks...I also just emailed Dr. Lowe. I hope that he might be able to shed some light on this subject as well. I know that I will probably need my results back so that I can fax them over to him. I just thought by chance he might have had a patient with my symptoms.

By the way, do you think I can take regular silica or does it have to be homeopathic pellets?

Marie

Marie!!> > > > Hi Marie..> Happy to hear that your up and running again with your computer.. I > wondered where you were!> > So, if you get those lab numbers back from the doc.. please post.> > Remember to post them with the actual ranges.. for example.. > > Tsh is usually something like between .5 and 5.5 ... something like > that. With TSH anything above 3 is suspect of hypo and even 2.. > although the lab range is up to 5.5. > > The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists have changed the range from 5.5 to > 3.0... but for some reason the laboratory reports do not reflect > that new number and if your doc is not familiar with this she will > say you are normal.> > > Also with the Free T's... your numbers should be in the upper 1/3 of > the range... you could be just slipping over the minimum and not > know it.. she's telling you your normal.> > ... I saw that someone here said they used silica pellets... > actually silica does work.. it is great for hair and nails.> > Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I first had my hair loss issue I > went to an herbalist who recommended it... The hair did stop falling > out within a week.. although it is falling out again now.. that's > another story.> > Hugs.. Dawn> > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> >

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Marie,

I took regular silica aka: horsetail .... I think it even comes in

tincture... Do you know any herbalists in your area? Usually at a

healthfood store their is atleast someone who is familiar with the

herbs they are selling... do you go to a health food store?

Hugs,

Dawn

-- In , " Marie "

<marie.johnson3@c...> wrote:

> Thanks...I also just emailed Dr. Lowe. I hope that he might be

able to shed some light on this subject as well. I know that I will

probably need my results back so that I can fax them over to him. I

just thought by chance he might have had a patient with my symptoms.

>

> By the way, do you think I can take regular silica or does it have

to be homeopathic pellets?

>

> Marie

> Marie!!

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Marie..

> > Happy to hear that your up and running again with your

> computer.. I

> > wondered where you were!

> >

> > So, if you get those lab numbers back from the doc..

please

> post.

> >

> > Remember to post them with the actual ranges.. for

example..

> >

> > Tsh is usually something like between .5 and 5.5 ...

> something like

> > that. With TSH anything above 3 is suspect of hypo and

even

> 2..

> > although the lab range is up to 5.5.

> >

> > The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists have changed the range

from

> 5.5 to

> > 3.0... but for some reason the laboratory reports do not

> reflect

> > that new number and if your doc is not familiar with this

she

> will

> > say you are normal.

> >

> >

> > Also with the Free T's... your numbers should be in the

upper

> 1/3 of

> > the range... you could be just slipping over the minimum

and

> not

> > know it.. she's telling you your normal.

> >

> > ... I saw that someone here said they used silica

pellets...

> > actually silica does work.. it is great for hair and nails.

> >

> > Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I first had my hair loss

issue

> I

> > went to an herbalist who recommended it... The hair did

stop

> falling

> > out within a week.. although it is falling out again now..

> that's

> > another story.

> >

> > Hugs.. Dawn

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of

advice

> given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your

physician

> or licensed health care professional before commencing any

medical

> treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

politicians

> mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner

(1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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Dawn,

Try not to be afraid of the surgery. I know it is easy for me to say. But let me tell you, although it is different for everyone, my explant was much less painful than the implant. Mine were under the muscle and I was told that it is more painful. I was on morphine after getting my implants and stayed in the hospital overnight. When I had my explant surgery I awoke and was eating peanut butter crackers and ginger ale. Yes, there was pain but nothing that good ol' perkocet couldn't cure.

Just trying to make you feel better about it. Everyone experiences different things after explant but I have heard that explant is much less painful than implant!

Beth S.Dawn A <daldre@...> wrote:

Hi Beth..Oh, thanks, I am glad you are able to pick up on the humor I try to fling out there!! It gives me alot of hope to know that atleast a portion of your symptoms HAVE gone away. Sheeesh.. my stomach just did flips, I am scared (sah care eddd). Trying to keep myself occupied so that I don't have to think about this surgery until it's literally on top of me. I bet in a year we will all be much better.Hugs,Dawn In , "Beth S." <schaffe88@y...> wrote:> Hi Dawn,> > Thanks for making me laugh! I've read some of your postings and I do not believe that you 'blab, blab, blab'. > > We are neighbors by the way. I live in Philadelphia. What area of New Jersey are you from?> > I went

through 2 1/2 years of testing. Not only blood work but biopsies, colonoscopy, endoscopy, cat scans, x-rays, MRI's. At one point I had difficulty driving or even walking for that matter. I was in a wheelchair. But all the doctors told me that it was definitely not from the implants! All the tests were negative.> > Funny thing though, as soon as the implants were removed, some of my symptoms disappeared. Tingling in my hands, constant yeast infections GONE! I am still weak and very tired and have flare ups about 4 times a month. It is an improvement from constant pain, weakness and those terrible yeast infections. I've only had my implants out for four months now so I'm hoping within a year I'll be at least 80% what I had once been.> > Good Luck to You,> > Beth S.> > > > Good Morning

Kenda,> > You're probably still sleeping out there in Ok!! Not me out on the > east coast. > > Anyway, I just want to clarify with you... It is only MY opinion > that Oprah is not the best choice. Let me remind you, I am only one > big mouthed girl from New Jersey!!!!..... and I am not the majority > of this group as you know. > > Whatever the other girls want is what you should go with. Don't mind > me... I just blab blab blab... not that there is no validity to what > I say, but don't let me influence your efforts.> > Like you said, isn't it worth it to try? Yes, it is worth it. And, > like others are saying.. if enough people also bombard her with > stories, maybe it would have a second look.> > No, there aren't any guarantees that we... and Dr. M will not be > attacked or edited into what the media wants.. but hey there are no

> guarantees with anything in life.> > I want you to try and understand that for years now, not one doctor > has been able to identify what has been wrong with me. When I called > my ps and asked if I could be so sick due to the implants... his > response was "no, no way, they are safe, you had a pre existing > condition".. One particular friend with implants thinks I am > absolutely nuts for getting explant... she thinks there is no way > it's the implants either. So, please know that the root of my > frustration is what I wrote above... in addition to going from doc > to doc to doc with all NORMAL blood tests, etc. etc. etc. Have > never been "VALIDATED" that what is happening is real.> > Thanks for what you are doing to help.> HUGS,> Dawn > > > >

---------------------------------> Messenger> Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun.Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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Dawn, be encouraged. Explant is so much easier than implanting. I can

say that only from my own experience. 4 days post-op, and I'm doing

great. I woke up after the surgery without major pain. For me, it

just felt like I had a bad bra on, and it was actually the ace bandage

wrapped around my breasts. I only had pain meds the first 12 hrs. post-

op.

One thing I did that helped was to just count the needle pricks.

There's probably going to be only two. One for the blood work, and

then one for the IV. I was given a pill pre-op, so when the IV stick

happened, I was joking with the anesthesiologist. I know it can seem

like a major event, and that is probably because the implant surgery

WAS a major event. But hey, you know the probable outcomes of this

one. Your health will likely improve. I was encouraged by the shares

online of women who had such positive experiences during the explant

surgery. It's a freedom kind of thing, and it's only a couple of

sticks away. I tried not to think of what the surgeon would do

actually, and what time it would take, and how I might or might not

hurt. Walk through that fear, girl. You can do it. I'm feeling

better already....just my opinion.....J

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I said my granddaughter lives in town.

Lynda

At 03:29 PM 4/3/2005, you wrote:

>Beth,

>I'm about an hour from town, Did you say town or is it my

>alzheimers again?

>Dawn

>

>In , " Beth S. " <schaffe88@y...> wrote:

> > Dawn,

> >

> > That's pretty far from me. Thought maybe you were closer.

> >

> > Beth S.

> >

> > Dawn A <daldre@y...> wrote:

> >

> > Oh yeah, Cranford, New Jersey. It's North Jersey, about 15 mins

>from

> > the Holland Tunnel.

> > Dawn

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

>by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

>treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

>decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

>better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

>Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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Dawn,

I finally picked up some silica pellets. I found some herbal pellets at the vitamin store. I hope they help. I took 6 then waited a half hour and took 7 more. They said I couldn't overdose on these, I guess I will have to wait and see. I don't even care if my hair doesn't have new growth, I just want the falling out to stop!!!!!

I also bought something called biotin, 5 mg. Has anyone heard of this? The gal at the store told me it worked wonders for her when her hair was falling out due to stress. So I figured it can't hurt!!

I'll keep you informed IF I have any progress.

By the way...

Don't be nervous about your surgery! If anything you should have butterflies of excitement. It's the most liberating feeling to wake up and not have this elephant sitting on your chest! Remember the feeling of not being able to breathe when you were first implanted...well it's NOTHING like that!! When you can finally wake up from the anesthesia you realize that you can actually breathe and move and feel nothing but freedom. Then you look in the mirror and see this skinny little person that you haven't seen in a while. It's a welcoming change.

The drains are pretty disgusting, but not a big deal at all. I was able to hide them from my children under my jacket for the 3 days I had them in. I'm so glad I did have them and you will see why with all the yuck that comes out of them. You don't want that junk floating around in your system.

I am so excited for you. It's the best feeling to look in the mirror and see yourself again!

Marie

Marie!!> > > > > > > > Hi Marie..> > Happy to hear that your up and running again with your > computer.. I > > wondered where you were!> > > > So, if you get those lab numbers back from the doc.. please > post.> > > > Remember to post them with the actual ranges.. for example.. > > > > Tsh is usually something like between .5 and 5.5 ... > something like > > that. With TSH anything above 3 is suspect of hypo and even > 2.. > > although the lab range is up to 5.5. > > > > The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists have changed the range from > 5.5 to > > 3.0... but for some reason the laboratory reports do not > reflect > > that new number and if your doc is not familiar with this she > will > > say you are normal.> > > > > > Also with the Free T's... your numbers should be in the upper > 1/3 of > > the range... you could be just slipping over the minimum and > not > > know it.. she's telling you your normal.> > > > ... I saw that someone here said they used silica pellets... > > actually silica does work.. it is great for hair and nails.> > > > Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I first had my hair loss issue > I > > went to an herbalist who recommended it... The hair did stop > falling > > out within a week.. although it is falling out again now.. > that's > > another story.> > > > Hugs.. Dawn> > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice > given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician > or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical > treatment. > > > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a > better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > >

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Marie!!!!

you are making me cry over here! I guess I'm alittle emotional due

to upcoming surgery and probably alittle PMS thrown in there. Yeah,

I can't wait to see " me " again. Problem is that I think I almost

forgot who that is. I really do welcome the skinny me back again

though.

And, YES I remember gasping for air.. totally terrifying.

Awwwhhhhh, Don't worry one bit, you really can't overdose on those

things at all. Biotin is the ultimate vitamin for hair... there is a

product called HAIR FACTORS, I think it is made by twin lab... It

has Biotin, pantothenic acid.. ya know I have it down stairs.. I'd

have to read the label.. Good stuff though. Plus the biotin is

antifungal.. believe it or not..

Hugs,

Dawn

In , " Marie "

<marie.johnson3@c...> wrote:

> Dawn,

>

> I finally picked up some silica pellets. I found some herbal

pellets at the vitamin store. I hope they help. I took 6 then

waited a half hour and took 7 more. They said I couldn't overdose

on these, I guess I will have to wait and see. I don't even care if

my hair doesn't have new growth, I just want the falling out to

stop!!!!!

>

> I also bought something called biotin, 5 mg. Has anyone heard of

this? The gal at the store told me it worked wonders for her when

her hair was falling out due to stress. So I figured it can't hurt!!

>

> I'll keep you informed IF I have any progress.

>

> By the way...

> Don't be nervous about your surgery! If anything you should have

butterflies of excitement. It's the most liberating feeling to wake

up and not have this elephant sitting on your chest! Remember the

feeling of not being able to breathe when you were first

implanted...well it's NOTHING like that!! When you can finally wake

up from the anesthesia you realize that you can actually breathe and

move and feel nothing but freedom. Then you look in the mirror and

see this skinny little person that you haven't seen in a while.

It's a welcoming change.

>

> The drains are pretty disgusting, but not a big deal at all. I

was able to hide them from my children under my jacket for the 3

days I had them in. I'm so glad I did have them and you will see

why with all the yuck that comes out of them. You don't want that

junk floating around in your system.

>

> I am so excited for you. It's the best feeling to look in the

mirror and see yourself again!

>

> Marie

> Marie!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Marie..

> > > Happy to hear that your up and running again with your

> > computer.. I

> > > wondered where you were!

> > >

> > > So, if you get those lab numbers back from the doc..

> please

> > post.

> > >

> > > Remember to post them with the actual ranges.. for

> example..

> > >

> > > Tsh is usually something like between .5 and 5.5 ...

> > something like

> > > that. With TSH anything above 3 is suspect of hypo

and

> even

> > 2..

> > > although the lab range is up to 5.5.

> > >

> > > The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists have changed the

range

> from

> > 5.5 to

> > > 3.0... but for some reason the laboratory reports do

not

> > reflect

> > > that new number and if your doc is not familiar with

this

> she

> > will

> > > say you are normal.

> > >

> > >

> > > Also with the Free T's... your numbers should be in

the

> upper

> > 1/3 of

> > > the range... you could be just slipping over the

minimum

> and

> > not

> > > know it.. she's telling you your normal.

> > >

> > > ... I saw that someone here said they used silica

> pellets...

> > > actually silica does work.. it is great for hair and

nails.

> > >

> > > Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I first had my hair

loss

> issue

> > I

> > > went to an herbalist who recommended it... The hair

did

> stop

> > falling

> > > out within a week.. although it is falling out again

now..

> > that's

> > > another story.

> > >

> > > Hugs.. Dawn

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of

> advice

> > given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your

> physician

> > or licensed health care professional before commencing any

> medical

> > treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians

> > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for

a

> > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner

> (1954,

> > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > >

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Dawn

Thanks - I am so glad it touched you and could help make a difference w/ your hubby. They took a ton of footage of my hubby which they didn't show... actually they took a ton of footage from everywhere that wasn't shown but the most important parts were there. That is the main point I was trying to get across... the pain of having a child and being ill.

love

shari

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In a message dated 11/12/2005 10:47:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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<<<Is it really true that abx therapy in late stages is useless?

<<<It explained what looked to be all the possible abx therapies at various

different <<<stages of the disease...does anyone know if he is reputable??

<<<Someone sent me a link yesterday that had a paper called ADVANCED TOPICS

IN <<<LYME DISEASE by ph J. Burrascano Jr, M.D.

<<<Thanks for letting me pick your brain.

<<<Do any of you struggle with your family or kids just thinking you are

lazy? This is part of <<<why I *want* my kids to come to the meeting...so they

can know themselves that I am <<<not just being lazy and making this all

up--that this is really a dibilitating disease.

<<<Dawn

HELLO DAWN, I wanted to respond to these 3 questions of yours. Firstly, I

think many thought I was lazy, I had been a person who did the work of 10

people and never tired or complained, then suddenly could barely shower or

dress

myself.... I too am a mother and also we own a biz and plenty more

responsibilities that suddenly I could not manage, but had to try as there was

no one

to pick up my slack.... so I think they thought i was complaining and

such.... after they saw the difference in me when I got proper treatment, then

they

realized how ill I really was, so now they understand, but when u r sick many

people just dont get it.... but u cant worry about that, u must use your

energy to get well no matter what others think.

NOW about the statement " " " Is it really true that abx therapy in late stages

is useless? " " " I do not believe this. I myself had my first full blown

textbook lyme infection at 10 yrs old at camp, that was 33 yrs ago.... I was

not treated of course, no one could figure out why I was sick and could not

walk or use my arms.... anyway, I was probably reinfected later and also

coinfections are a possibility, I grew up on eastern long island and pulled

ticks off myself on a daily basis.... who knew.... anyway, I had major health

crash about 3 yrs ago, close to death really... finally got a dr to treat the

lyme.... within first 6 weeks i gained 15 lbs, I was at least 25 under due to

illness etc... anyway each month on ABX I felt my body systems improve one

by one.... muscles, joints, lymph, nervous system, headaches and head and neck

issues, ears and facial pain, stomach troubles better, u name it, i had it,

and all went thru changes as the meds got thru my system month by month....

that was almost a year ago and we are getting me off the abx now, to see how

it goes. I believe my life has been saved, and it is never too late for abx.

I think the lyme load within my body was so high I just could not fight it

anymore, and the meds got my immune system working again by lowering the

bacterial load and helping get my lymph system going again... as well as other

organs... Other than the few times my symptoms brought me to the doctors over

the years, and of course never diagnosed and no relief, I never had health

issues nor was a constant doctor type person, and never had treatment of any

kind for much of anything.... I sometimes think this plays a role, someone who

had many other health issues and many treatments of abx for other things over

the years, maybe that is why they do not respond the same as someone like me

who never had meds etc during their lifetime. Along with ABX the doc said

vit b (I had shots at home daily then weekly and still take them as I was very

low on B 12 which is common with lyme people) Iron supplements, DHEA, fish

oil and probiotics and daily vitamin, and of course i already did the right

eating stuff... stay away from sugars and white flour items, junk food and

soda etc etc etc... eating right helps. SO whether or not I am going to be

good

long term or have relapse time will tell, but in the meantime, I can do

things I never thought I could do again so for that it is worth it.... I am

not

100 percent of who I used to be, but 80 or more sure beats 5 percent. So I

say ABX can be beneficial no matter how long one is sick. I do believe in

supporting your system with supplements, but dont think the body can rid itself

so easily of the overload after being sick so long without the ABX /// once

the ABX knocks down the infection your system can then attempt to battle it

itself with the help of supplements.

Lastly, the link they sent u is a good one,

(((Someone sent me a link yesterday that had a paper called ADVANCED TOPICS

IN LYME DISEASE by ph J. Burrascano Jr, M.D._.))))

he is a respected lyme doc and is in the forefront of studying and helping

people with lyme...

hope this helps u. C in Vt, but infected Long Island NY

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Yes, got the lift too and they look BEAUTIFUL.

>

> Hello ladies,

> I have posted on here several times. I am considering an

explant with

> Dr. Kolb. I saw her in Dec. However I am very scared about how

my

> breast will look like. I got implant to correct my small

tubular

> breast. I am so worried that I have even considered not

explanting. I

> was diagnosed last year with grave's hyperthyriodism and have

been

> doing alot of research since then. I am getting much better

since

> I've been a endo. and natrual dr. I may even get off my meds

from the

> endo. I know that the smart thing to do is to remove any

triggors. I

> even wonder at this point if it is or even was a triggor. I

was under

> a lot of stress when I got Graves. Not to mention, I had just

stopped

> taking my anexiety meds. I guess I just question if the

implants

> really even had or have any factor at this point. Over a year

later

> with less stress in my life, watching my diet closer, taking

herbs

> from my ND, my thyroid is in the normal range. I know I will

always

> have to whats my stress level and diet even after I remove the

> implant ( if I do).

>

> Has anyone here have tubular brests? They are not only small

but very

> deformed looking. I don't know if i can deal with that. I know

it's

> silly because I should worry about my health first, and I do,

but I

> would be lying if I said that I would be able to get over my

looks

> and be happy. It's very sad I know.

>

> I even talked to Dr. Kolb about a transflap surgery, and she

said

> that would fix my breats, but it's like $70,000, and of course

that

> is way too much money for me. Has anyone here had their

implants

> removed to find that all their pathology reports and test were

> normal? I guess there is just no way knowing anything for

sure.

>

> I know that some women from here have gotten better after they

> removed their implant, but it is also hard to say that maybe

they got

> better due to lifestyle and diet changes. Some women have

definaltely

> gotten better due to the fact they removed them and others

removed

> them and still are not better.

>

> Anyone?

>

> Thanks for listening

> Allyson

>

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My surgery was solely for selfish, vain, cosmetic reasons so I

didn't even try to get $$ from insurance as they wouldn't pay anyway.

Dr. Feng is the best in my book... loved her, absolutely loved her.

Very Pro environment. Good for you on making the decision to get

them out... you won't regret it.

> >

> > Hello ladies,

> > I have posted on here several times. I am considering an

> explant with

> > Dr. Kolb. I saw her in Dec. However I am very scared about

how

> my

> > breast will look like. I got implant to correct my small

> tubular

> > breast. I am so worried that I have even considered not

> explanting. I

> > was diagnosed last year with grave's hyperthyriodism and

have

> been

> > doing alot of research since then. I am getting much

better

> since

> > I've been a endo. and natrual dr. I may even get off my

meds

> from the

> > endo. I know that the smart thing to do is to remove any

> triggors. I

> > even wonder at this point if it is or even was a triggor.

I

> was under

> > a lot of stress when I got Graves. Not to mention, I had

just

> stopped

> > taking my anexiety meds. I guess I just question if the

> implants

> > really even had or have any factor at this point. Over a

year

> later

> > with less stress in my life, watching my diet closer,

taking

> herbs

> > from my ND, my thyroid is in the normal range. I know I

will

> always

> > have to whats my stress level and diet even after I remove

the

> > implant ( if I do).

> >

> > Has anyone here have tubular brests? They are not only

small

> but very

> > deformed looking. I don't know if i can deal with that. I

know

> it's

> > silly because I should worry about my health first, and I

do,

> but I

> > would be lying if I said that I would be able to get over

my

> looks

> > and be happy. It's very sad I know.

> >

> > I even talked to Dr. Kolb about a transflap surgery, and

she

> said

> > that would fix my breats, but it's like $70,000, and of

course

> that

> > is way too much money for me. Has anyone here had their

> implants

> > removed to find that all their pathology reports and test

were

> > normal? I guess there is just no way knowing anything for

> sure.

> >

> > I know that some women from here have gotten better after

they

> > removed their implant, but it is also hard to say that

maybe

> they got

> > better due to lifestyle and diet changes. Some women have

> definaltely

> > gotten better due to the fact they removed them and others

> removed

> > them and still are not better.

> >

> > Anyone?

> >

> > Thanks for listening

> > Allyson

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner

(1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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Dawn,

Did you also get a lift?

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Re: Tubular breast

Hi Allyson, I had slight tubular breast also but it was completely corrected by Dr. Feng. I love my new smaller breasts.... they look better than they had pre implant. I'm so glad to have those things OUT. It's been a year for me and I must say it really was the best decision I could have ever made. I have thyroid issues also and may be stuck with it long term but it's completely manageable now. Dawn allysonallysonkrick & lt;adkrick@... & gt; wrote: Hello ladies,I have posted on here several times. I am considering an explant with Dr. Kolb. I saw her in Dec. However I am very scared about how my breast will look like. I got implant to correct my small tubular breast. I am so worried that I have even considered not explanting. I was diagnosed last year with grave's hyperthyriodism and have been doing alot of research since then. I am getting much better since I've been a endo. and natrual dr. I may even get off my meds from the endo. I know that the smart thing to do is to remove any triggors. I even wonder at this point if it is or even was a triggor. I was under a lot of stress when I got Graves. Not to mention, I had just stopped taking my anexiety meds. I guess I just question if the implants really even had or have any factor at this point. Over a year later with less stress in my life, watching my diet closer, taking herbs from my ND, my thyroid is in the normal range. I know I will always have to whats my stress level and diet even after I remove the implant ( if I do). Has anyone here have tubular brests? They are not only small but very deformed looking. I don't know if i can deal with that. I know it's silly because I should worry about my health first, and I do, but I would be lying if I said that I would be able to get over my looks and be happy. It's very sad I know. I even talked to Dr. Kolb about a transflap surgery, and she said that would fix my breats, but it's like $70,000, and of course that is way too much money for me. Has anyone here had their implants removed to find that all their pathology reports and test were normal? I guess there is just no way knowing anything for sure. I know that some women from here have gotten better after they removed their implant, but it is also hard to say that maybe they got better due to lifestyle and diet changes. Some women have definaltely gotten better due to the fact they removed them and others removed them and still are not better. Anyone?Thanks for listeningAllyson

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GREAT! Did you get any $$ help from insurance? I am going to Dr. Feng in June, and am trying to save enough for the lift too!!

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Re: Dawn

Yes, got the lift too and they look BEAUTIFUL. > > Hello ladies,> I have posted on here several times. I am considering an explant with > Dr. Kolb. I saw her in Dec. However I am very scared about how my > breast will look like. I got implant to correct my small tubular > breast. I am so worried that I have even considered not explanting. I > was diagnosed last year with grave's hyperthyriodism and have been > doing alot of research since then. I am getting much better since > I've been a endo. and natrual dr. I may even get off my meds from the > endo. I know that the smart thing to do is to remove any triggors. I > even wonder at this point if it is or even was a triggor. I was under > a lot of stress when I got Graves. Not to mention, I had just stopped > taking my anexiety meds. I guess I just question if the implants > really even had or have any factor at this point. Over a year later > with less stress in my life, watching my diet closer, taking herbs > from my ND, my thyroid is in the normal range. I know I will always > have to whats my stress level and diet even after I remove the > implant ( if I do). > > Has anyone here have tubular brests? They are not only small but very > deformed looking. I don't know if i can deal with that. I know it's > silly because I should worry about my health first, and I do, but I > would be lying if I said that I would be able to get over my looks > and be happy. It's very sad I know. > > I even talked to Dr. Kolb about a transflap surgery, and she said > that would fix my breats, but it's like $70,000, and of course that > is way too much money for me. Has anyone here had their implants > removed to find that all their pathology reports and test were > normal? I guess there is just no way knowing anything for sure. > > I know that some women from here have gotten better after they > removed their implant, but it is also hard to say that maybe they got > better due to lifestyle and diet changes. Some women have definaltely > gotten better due to the fact they removed them and others removed > them and still are not better. > > Anyone?> > Thanks for listening> Allyson> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access at this link:> http://.shutterfly.com/action/> >

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Thank you :)

brenda <brendas4x4@...> wrote:

dawn i got the name of the group i was telling you about. its

hystercity. if you want to visit it on the web the address is

hystercity, maybe it will help with some

questions. brenda

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(((Dawn))),

Thank you for that beautiful poem.

I lost my " best " friend to murder 15 years ago. She was only 26 years old. I

expected us to grow old together, talk about the fun times we had and the crazy

people in our lives. She and her husband was found together on the highway in

some nearby woods. I was living in California at the time 3,000 miles away and

no one told me for months. We were close like sisters. She was family to me.

Best friends are hard to come by. Special ones like that. I know it isn't the

same as your situation, but the pain of the loss is. She was kind like your

friend. An angel on earth. Mild mannered, gentle and inspirational. I never

got to tell her how much she meant to me. I assumed there would be plenty of

time for that.

I am sorry to hear about the loss of your friend. I don't think her method of

leaving this earth is all that uncommon given her circumstances. She may have

been given a short time to survive with chemo or just didn't want to put her

family through it. I am sure she tied up the loose ends before going. God

bless her soul. I am sure that was an extremely difficult decisiion and her

heart was breaking to leave her babies behind. God bless you and the family she

left behind.

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In a message dated 7/28/2006 9:17:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, dawnsusan@... writes:

I have been eating a lot of kale -- bought a large bag and it really doesn't cook down the way spinach does -- I can't seem to finish the bag. Last night I made some and started gagging when I tried to finish it. My body just said "enough kale!"In a day or two, I will hide the rest of it in a soup and cook it limp. That'll teach it!Dawn

Dawn,

This cracked me up as much as Rogene did earlier (in another post)... "That'll teach it!" I wasn't going to reply to cut back on posting, but I had to. It struck me so funny.

LOL!!!

Brig :)

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I would not assume anything at this point. It is a good idea to get a copy of all medical records from here on out, and make a file folder to keep updated. Then you will have all information regarding your health care at your fingertips. I have referred to mine numerous times. Just make sure you get a copy of the operative report, and any othe reports or records in your medical files. Search your operative report for a discussion of how the implants were removed, and the scar tissue. It should be clearly mentioned. As for the fluffing, it is way too early to tell Dawn! The breast size will take up to a year to fluff out, so don't get too disappointed yet. I am so glad to hear you've seen such amazing progress so far. Just remember the road is unfortunately much longer than we want it to be, so don't get nervous if some of your symptoms return for a period of time after

seeing some improvements. It does happen. Keep up the great work...you are a smart woman! PattyDawnsusan <dawnsusan@...> wrote: It was Dr. Melmed. I assumed he just did a capsulectomy, as he doesn't always remove straight en bloc, right? Plus I only have an areolar incision.The implants were intact, and he said he got the whole caposule out, as they were paper thin after being in only 1 year.All the cravings I had were from BEFORE surgery. Once I had surgery, I

immediately began eating well, even though not on the yeast diet. My first meal after surgery was plain chicken, steamed greem beans and mashed potatoes. I never had anything but water after I left the hospital. I did have a little "Hershy issue" on the drive home, but we had a 20 hour drive and I got a little bored.Dr. Melmed said he noted that one seal was sliced open, like accidentally cut by a scalpel. Dr. Melmed said he found it like that. The seal was intact, just the little rubber outer strip is sliced in half. I am sending my implants to Dr. Blaise today.FYI -- I am about 3 weeks post implant. I can't believe it is only that! The good news is that my body pain, aside from my yeast herx, is down about 75 %. It took two weeks, but I think my heart issues are evening out a little. I was getting dizzy with a high heart rate when I stood up for the first few weeks. Pus I continued with the palpitations.

That is abating. (In case anyone who doesn't know my story is reading -- yes I do have a cardiologist.)Neck range of motion -- back to NORMAL!! Muscle twitches -- reducing by about 1/2. Joint pain -- reduced about 50%. My knees are still problems, but it feels like a posterior tendon inflammation not internal joint pain like it was. Body stiffness -- reduced by about 75%. I think a lot of what is left is due to inactivity from being sick and I just need to start stretching.Brain fog -- reducing -- but that could also be from yeast treatment. I am so glad I wasted no time after realizing the connection. My implants were in only 1 year and two weeks. Downside -- I was really downsized! The cute swelling is gone, and although my breasts are a nice shape, I didn't seem to get any of that extra size you sometimes hear about. I am definitely an AA or A cup at this point. I can't imagine suddenly getting

more size as my breasts continue to change. If anyone knows otherwise, let me know!It's rather an...athletic look!Dawn

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How very sad for her husband and family for such a young person to pass over

I would like to think that Dawn passing over was in love and light.

This sort of news - is a tap on the shoulder in two ways -

It just makes one more grateful that the glivec medication (600mg) is

continuing to work

and other drugs continue to work for peoples own journey

and brings to mind that one can never ever take CML for granted.

How nice for Dawns friends to celebrate her life with their 1/2 marathon

Cheers

Sue (Aussie)

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Hello Drasko,

we also do have a biological clock in our body.

The Germans call that Organuhr.

If you Google for that you wiill find some sites with information.

F.i. http://www.naturheilpraxis-voigt.de/organuhr.htm

Be aware that electrosensitivity is just an illness, which houses in some

organs and immune system.

First the liver, than the stomach, etc.

Greetings,

Claessens

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dawn

Dear , and others who responded to my survey regarding feeling better

after dawn, thank you very much for your kind contribution!

I agree with and regarding possible relationship with

ionosphere, just before explaining, I am concerned at the moment with

attempts to collect and match other similar experiences, as I don´t fully

trust myself...

´s observation suggests that an ancient wisdom could be based on

similar observations, despite (apparently) not having much to do with the

EMF issue...

Likely, when I had a bakery, it was well known that the toughest part of the

night shift was the hour just before dawn, independently on whether dawn

happened at 4 (summer) or 6.30 (winter)... Also, some believe that hour is

responsible for statistically higher possibility of machine failures,

independently on human error, but I did´t make such statistics...

By the way, possibly, there are more such observations hidden in the world,

but whenever I search the net for something such mysterious (including

Electrosensitivity), I keep encountering either scientific simplifications

or ¨astral hallucinations¨... If you get what I mean, I would appreciate

your suggestions for further research, not only regarding ES, as I think we

have to look broader for understanding ES... For example as I consider

´s contribution regarding dawn precious for my survey, I would like

to investigate further the ancient wisdom he presented, just I don´t know

where to start... I mean - who does care for such stuff any more!?

Drasko

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charles@... writes:

Be aware that electrosensitivity is just an illness, which houses in some

organs and immune system.

First the liver, than the stomach, etc.

sounds good, but waht about the millions of other illness`s that

are immune system related, they simply cant just be cured mostly they are

treated ongoing with medication, that said cant wait to hear your results in

more detail.

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