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I haven't read whatever material this is in response to, no time now -

but I can personally attest (and differ a bit with Monika :)) that

I've been vegetarian 8 years now, much of the time 'accidentally'

vegan - just going daily with what felt good and there has been no

detrimental affect, only good. I don't take b12 or other canned

supplements, only concentrated chinese food herbs along with all

organic regular foods. Meat is not needed at all. I don't need to

know who is saying what about the minute biochemistry details, that's

only partial information anyway. I know by living it and knowing many

who are doing the same vibrantly.

:) Liz

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> >>> > Mended Little Hearts of Southern Indiana/Kentucky

> >>> > Little Hearts Hold Big Hope

> >>> > Reaching out to families and caregivers affected by

Congenital Heart

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> >>> > Elaina Carolann , victory from tetralogy of fallot for

6 years

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I haven't read whatever material this is in response to, no time now -

but I can personally attest (and differ a bit with Monika :)) that

I've been vegetarian 8 years now, much of the time 'accidentally'

vegan - just going daily with what felt good and there has been no

detrimental affect, only good. I don't take b12 or other canned

supplements, only concentrated chinese food herbs along with all

organic regular foods. Meat is not needed at all. I don't need to

know who is saying what about the minute biochemistry details, that's

only partial information anyway. I know by living it and knowing many

who are doing the same vibrantly.

:) Liz

> >>> >

> >>> > So what do people like us do now that we have someone coming

into to

> >>> the White House who wants to enforce that all children are to be

> >>> vaccinated and will not accept staggering them or exempting

them? Are

> >>> we going to be forced to do this to our kids? Do we hide them

> >>> somewhere? I am worried to say the least that someone can

enforce such

> >>> a thing.

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>> > Mended Little Hearts of Southern Indiana/Kentucky

> >>> > Little Hearts Hold Big Hope

> >>> > Reaching out to families and caregivers affected by

Congenital Heart

> >>> Defects

> >>> > Elaina Carolann , victory from tetralogy of fallot for

6 years

> >>> and counting

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> >>> >

> >>> >

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> >>> >

> >>> > __________________________________________________________

> >>> > Buy Hardwood Floors Direct - Click Here.

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I am doing a vegan/raw vegan diet..

Our naturopath has us on a sublingual b total supplement..

We don't eat meat, dairy or soy anymore..

Even while detoxing..we get enough nutrition from what we are eating..

I agree with you..

People don't need dead animal protein to survive...

All the protein is in the veggies and fruits themselves..

R

> > >>> >

> > >>> > So what do people like us do now that we have someone

coming

> into to

> > >>> the White House who wants to enforce that all children are to

be

> > >>> vaccinated and will not accept staggering them or exempting

> them? Are

> > >>> we going to be forced to do this to our kids? Do we hide them

> > >>> somewhere? I am worried to say the least that someone can

> enforce such

> > >>> a thing.

> > >>> >

> > >>> >

> > >>> >

> > >>> > Mended Little Hearts of Southern Indiana/Kentucky

> > >>> > Little Hearts Hold Big Hope

> > >>> > Reaching out to families and caregivers affected by

> Congenital Heart

> > >>> Defects

> > >>> > Elaina Carolann , victory from tetralogy of fallot

for

> 6 years

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Hello group, My daughter and I have been vegan for about 17 years; neither of us regularly takes any vitamin except vit C, although we do supplement with herbs. And for the last several years I have eaten mostly rawfoods, even seeking out rawfood restaurants all over the country. Our health is excellent; our energy levels are beyond what most people can understand. My daughter does more at college than any other student I have ever known, and I look 20 years younger than my true age. "Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food" is as true today as ever. If you give your body only the best nutrition it will function as it should; I think Americans have forgotten what people are supposed to look like, what we are supposed to feel like, what people are meant to

eat. Just eat real food! Take nothing packaged, no artificial anything, no processed sugar, no drugs. Drink pure water, not what comes out of city taps. Reach for a piece of organic fruit instead of a candy bar or chips when you are hungry. You will be surprised what can happen when you give your body the nutrition it needs: weight will fall away, energy will increase, sleep will be deep and refreshing, moods will be much improved. And you will feel happier within yourself. Try it! Health is possible, Sholtz, Ph.D, RSHom(NA), CCH *Registrar, North American Society of Homeopaths

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Hello group, My daughter and I have been vegan for about 17 years; neither of us regularly takes any vitamin except vit C, although we do supplement with herbs. And for the last several years I have eaten mostly rawfoods, even seeking out rawfood restaurants all over the country. Our health is excellent; our energy levels are beyond what most people can understand. My daughter does more at college than any other student I have ever known, and I look 20 years younger than my true age. "Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food" is as true today as ever. If you give your body only the best nutrition it will function as it should; I think Americans have forgotten what people are supposed to look like, what we are supposed to feel like, what people are meant to

eat. Just eat real food! Take nothing packaged, no artificial anything, no processed sugar, no drugs. Drink pure water, not what comes out of city taps. Reach for a piece of organic fruit instead of a candy bar or chips when you are hungry. You will be surprised what can happen when you give your body the nutrition it needs: weight will fall away, energy will increase, sleep will be deep and refreshing, moods will be much improved. And you will feel happier within yourself. Try it! Health is possible, Sholtz, Ph.D, RSHom(NA), CCH *Registrar, North American Society of Homeopaths

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Hello group, My daughter and I have been vegan for about 17 years; neither of us regularly takes any vitamin except vit C, although we do supplement with herbs. And for the last several years I have eaten mostly rawfoods, even seeking out rawfood restaurants all over the country. Our health is excellent; our energy levels are beyond what most people can understand. My daughter does more at college than any other student I have ever known, and I look 20 years younger than my true age. "Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food" is as true today as ever. If you give your body only the best nutrition it will function as it should; I think Americans have forgotten what people are supposed to look like, what we are supposed to feel like, what people are meant to

eat. Just eat real food! Take nothing packaged, no artificial anything, no processed sugar, no drugs. Drink pure water, not what comes out of city taps. Reach for a piece of organic fruit instead of a candy bar or chips when you are hungry. You will be surprised what can happen when you give your body the nutrition it needs: weight will fall away, energy will increase, sleep will be deep and refreshing, moods will be much improved. And you will feel happier within yourself. Try it! Health is possible, Sholtz, Ph.D, RSHom(NA), CCH *Registrar, North American Society of Homeopaths

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Hello group, My daughter and I have been vegan for about 17 years; neither of us regularly takes any vitamin except vit C, although we do supplement with herbs. And for the last several years I have eaten mostly rawfoods, even seeking out rawfood restaurants all over the country. Our health is excellent; our energy levels are beyond what most people can understand. My daughter does more at college than any other student I have ever known, and I look 20 years younger than my true age. "Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food" is as true today as ever. If you give your body only the best nutrition it will function as it should; I think Americans have forgotten what people are supposed to look like, what we are supposed to feel like, what people are meant to

eat. Just eat real food! Take nothing packaged, no artificial anything, no processed sugar, no drugs. Drink pure water, not what comes out of city taps. Reach for a piece of organic fruit instead of a candy bar or chips when you are hungry. You will be surprised what can happen when you give your body the nutrition it needs: weight will fall away, energy will increase, sleep will be deep and refreshing, moods will be much improved. And you will feel happier within yourself. Try it! Health is possible, Sholtz, Ph.D, RSHom(NA), CCH *Registrar, North American Society of Homeopaths

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According to Dr. Bob Marshall we were designed for raw food instead of cooked food.

He also states that if we eat cooked food therefore 1/3 of our life is cut short unless you take certain digestive enzymes before (for the pancreas) and after (HCL) the cooked food meal.His company is called PR Labs, and I have been taking this myself for the last few months and I like the results so far.

Gene

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According to Dr. Bob Marshall we were designed for raw food instead of cooked food.

He also states that if we eat cooked food therefore 1/3 of our life is cut short unless you take certain digestive enzymes before (for the pancreas) and after (HCL) the cooked food meal.His company is called PR Labs, and I have been taking this myself for the last few months and I like the results so far.

Gene

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That's right :) I accomplish more than people can believe as

well, while also raising two children myself.

Detoxing is also important, which as you know our homeopathy does

well, sometimes complemented a bit.

I've not gone raw, my body does better with combination of raw salad

stuff and the rest cooked - not too much though. It's important for

everyone to find what intuitively feels best.

I'm sure you've also seen in your practice how after the right remedy,

people's eating habits naturally change for the better. Myself

included...wanted to be veggie for years but couldn't do it until got

going on deep healing.

Thank you,

Liz

>

> Hello group,

>

>      My daughter and I have been vegan for about 17 years; neither

of us regularly takes any vitamin except vit C, although we do

supplement with herbs.  And for the last several years I have eaten

mostly rawfoods, even seeking out rawfood restaurants all over the

country.  Our health is excellent; our energy levels are beyond what

most people can understand.  My daughter does more at college than any

other student I have ever known, and I look 20 years younger than my

true age. 

>

>      " Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food " is as true

today as ever.  If you give your body only the best nutrition it will

function as it should; I think Americans have forgotten what people

are supposed to look like, what we are supposed to feel like, what

people are meant to eat.  Just eat real food!  Take nothing packaged,

no artificial anything, no processed sugar, no drugs.  Drink pure

water, not what comes out of city taps.  Reach for a piece of organic

fruit instead of a candy bar or chips when you are hungry.  You will

be surprised what can happen when you give your body the nutrition it

needs:  weight will fall away, energy will increase, sleep will be

deep and refreshing, moods will be much improved.   And you will feel

happier within yourself.  Try it! 

>

> Health is possible,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Sholtz, Ph.D, RSHom(NA), CCH

> *Registrar, North American Society of Homeopaths

>

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That's right :) I accomplish more than people can believe as

well, while also raising two children myself.

Detoxing is also important, which as you know our homeopathy does

well, sometimes complemented a bit.

I've not gone raw, my body does better with combination of raw salad

stuff and the rest cooked - not too much though. It's important for

everyone to find what intuitively feels best.

I'm sure you've also seen in your practice how after the right remedy,

people's eating habits naturally change for the better. Myself

included...wanted to be veggie for years but couldn't do it until got

going on deep healing.

Thank you,

Liz

>

> Hello group,

>

>      My daughter and I have been vegan for about 17 years; neither

of us regularly takes any vitamin except vit C, although we do

supplement with herbs.  And for the last several years I have eaten

mostly rawfoods, even seeking out rawfood restaurants all over the

country.  Our health is excellent; our energy levels are beyond what

most people can understand.  My daughter does more at college than any

other student I have ever known, and I look 20 years younger than my

true age. 

>

>      " Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food " is as true

today as ever.  If you give your body only the best nutrition it will

function as it should; I think Americans have forgotten what people

are supposed to look like, what we are supposed to feel like, what

people are meant to eat.  Just eat real food!  Take nothing packaged,

no artificial anything, no processed sugar, no drugs.  Drink pure

water, not what comes out of city taps.  Reach for a piece of organic

fruit instead of a candy bar or chips when you are hungry.  You will

be surprised what can happen when you give your body the nutrition it

needs:  weight will fall away, energy will increase, sleep will be

deep and refreshing, moods will be much improved.   And you will feel

happier within yourself.  Try it! 

>

> Health is possible,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Sholtz, Ph.D, RSHom(NA), CCH

> *Registrar, North American Society of Homeopaths

>

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That's right :) I accomplish more than people can believe as

well, while also raising two children myself.

Detoxing is also important, which as you know our homeopathy does

well, sometimes complemented a bit.

I've not gone raw, my body does better with combination of raw salad

stuff and the rest cooked - not too much though. It's important for

everyone to find what intuitively feels best.

I'm sure you've also seen in your practice how after the right remedy,

people's eating habits naturally change for the better. Myself

included...wanted to be veggie for years but couldn't do it until got

going on deep healing.

Thank you,

Liz

>

> Hello group,

>

>      My daughter and I have been vegan for about 17 years; neither

of us regularly takes any vitamin except vit C, although we do

supplement with herbs.  And for the last several years I have eaten

mostly rawfoods, even seeking out rawfood restaurants all over the

country.  Our health is excellent; our energy levels are beyond what

most people can understand.  My daughter does more at college than any

other student I have ever known, and I look 20 years younger than my

true age. 

>

>      " Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food " is as true

today as ever.  If you give your body only the best nutrition it will

function as it should; I think Americans have forgotten what people

are supposed to look like, what we are supposed to feel like, what

people are meant to eat.  Just eat real food!  Take nothing packaged,

no artificial anything, no processed sugar, no drugs.  Drink pure

water, not what comes out of city taps.  Reach for a piece of organic

fruit instead of a candy bar or chips when you are hungry.  You will

be surprised what can happen when you give your body the nutrition it

needs:  weight will fall away, energy will increase, sleep will be

deep and refreshing, moods will be much improved.   And you will feel

happier within yourself.  Try it! 

>

> Health is possible,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Sholtz, Ph.D, RSHom(NA), CCH

> *Registrar, North American Society of Homeopaths

>

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That's right :) I accomplish more than people can believe as

well, while also raising two children myself.

Detoxing is also important, which as you know our homeopathy does

well, sometimes complemented a bit.

I've not gone raw, my body does better with combination of raw salad

stuff and the rest cooked - not too much though. It's important for

everyone to find what intuitively feels best.

I'm sure you've also seen in your practice how after the right remedy,

people's eating habits naturally change for the better. Myself

included...wanted to be veggie for years but couldn't do it until got

going on deep healing.

Thank you,

Liz

>

> Hello group,

>

>      My daughter and I have been vegan for about 17 years; neither

of us regularly takes any vitamin except vit C, although we do

supplement with herbs.  And for the last several years I have eaten

mostly rawfoods, even seeking out rawfood restaurants all over the

country.  Our health is excellent; our energy levels are beyond what

most people can understand.  My daughter does more at college than any

other student I have ever known, and I look 20 years younger than my

true age. 

>

>      " Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food " is as true

today as ever.  If you give your body only the best nutrition it will

function as it should; I think Americans have forgotten what people

are supposed to look like, what we are supposed to feel like, what

people are meant to eat.  Just eat real food!  Take nothing packaged,

no artificial anything, no processed sugar, no drugs.  Drink pure

water, not what comes out of city taps.  Reach for a piece of organic

fruit instead of a candy bar or chips when you are hungry.  You will

be surprised what can happen when you give your body the nutrition it

needs:  weight will fall away, energy will increase, sleep will be

deep and refreshing, moods will be much improved.   And you will feel

happier within yourself.  Try it! 

>

> Health is possible,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Sholtz, Ph.D, RSHom(NA), CCH

> *Registrar, North American Society of Homeopaths

>

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>>>>Cows are vegetarians themselves so where do they get their calcium and protein?

>>Not from another species like we do.

Cows are herbivores, they don't have any carnivorous teeth, whereas humans do.I could also say that certain animals only eat meat and they're very healthy, so that must mean we should avoid veggies and fruits. It's a ridiculous statement. Our bodies are very different than that of cows. I wasn't referring to calcium and protein as things that we cannot get from veggies and fruits alone. It is certain vitamins and minerals that simply are not found anywhere else other than meat and these nutrients humans need.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:13 PM, <QTM7@...> wrote:

Cows are vegetarians themselves so where do they get their calcium and protein?

Not from another species like we do.

Gene

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>>>>Cows are vegetarians themselves so where do they get their calcium and protein?

>>Not from another species like we do.

Cows are herbivores, they don't have any carnivorous teeth, whereas humans do.I could also say that certain animals only eat meat and they're very healthy, so that must mean we should avoid veggies and fruits. It's a ridiculous statement. Our bodies are very different than that of cows. I wasn't referring to calcium and protein as things that we cannot get from veggies and fruits alone. It is certain vitamins and minerals that simply are not found anywhere else other than meat and these nutrients humans need.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:13 PM, <QTM7@...> wrote:

Cows are vegetarians themselves so where do they get their calcium and protein?

Not from another species like we do.

Gene

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>>>>Cows are vegetarians themselves so where do they get their calcium and protein?>>Not from another species like we do.You also may want to read this before assuming that today's cows obtain their protein from munching grass.

http://www.naturalcanines.com/gpage8.html

"Every day, hundreds of rendering plants across the United States truck millions of tons of this 'food enhancer' to dairy industry, poultry ranches, cattle feed-lots, hog farms, fish-feed plants, and pet-food manufacturers. This food enhancer is mixed with other ingredients to feed the billions of animals. Rendering plants have different specialties. Some product-label names are: meat meal, meat by-products, poultry meal, poultry by-products, fishmeal, fish oil, yellow grease, tallow, beef fat and chicken fat. A 1991 USDA report states that approximately 7.9 billion pounds of meat, bone meal, blood meal, and feather meal was produced by rendering plants in 1983. Of that amount: 12 percent was used in dairy and beef cattle feed, 34 percent was used in pet food, 34 percent was used in poultry feed, 20 percent was used in pig food. Scientific American cites a dramatic rise in the use of animal protein in commercial dairy feed since 1987.

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>>>>Cows are vegetarians themselves so where do they get their calcium and protein?>>Not from another species like we do.You also may want to read this before assuming that today's cows obtain their protein from munching grass.

http://www.naturalcanines.com/gpage8.html

"Every day, hundreds of rendering plants across the United States truck millions of tons of this 'food enhancer' to dairy industry, poultry ranches, cattle feed-lots, hog farms, fish-feed plants, and pet-food manufacturers. This food enhancer is mixed with other ingredients to feed the billions of animals. Rendering plants have different specialties. Some product-label names are: meat meal, meat by-products, poultry meal, poultry by-products, fishmeal, fish oil, yellow grease, tallow, beef fat and chicken fat. A 1991 USDA report states that approximately 7.9 billion pounds of meat, bone meal, blood meal, and feather meal was produced by rendering plants in 1983. Of that amount: 12 percent was used in dairy and beef cattle feed, 34 percent was used in pet food, 34 percent was used in poultry feed, 20 percent was used in pig food. Scientific American cites a dramatic rise in the use of animal protein in commercial dairy feed since 1987.

Ingrid

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>>>>Cows are vegetarians themselves so where do they get their calcium and protein?>>Not from another species like we do.You also may want to read this before assuming that today's cows obtain their protein from munching grass.

http://www.naturalcanines.com/gpage8.html

"Every day, hundreds of rendering plants across the United States truck millions of tons of this 'food enhancer' to dairy industry, poultry ranches, cattle feed-lots, hog farms, fish-feed plants, and pet-food manufacturers. This food enhancer is mixed with other ingredients to feed the billions of animals. Rendering plants have different specialties. Some product-label names are: meat meal, meat by-products, poultry meal, poultry by-products, fishmeal, fish oil, yellow grease, tallow, beef fat and chicken fat. A 1991 USDA report states that approximately 7.9 billion pounds of meat, bone meal, blood meal, and feather meal was produced by rendering plants in 1983. Of that amount: 12 percent was used in dairy and beef cattle feed, 34 percent was used in pet food, 34 percent was used in poultry feed, 20 percent was used in pig food. Scientific American cites a dramatic rise in the use of animal protein in commercial dairy feed since 1987.

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>>>>Cows are vegetarians themselves so where do they get their calcium and protein?>>Not from another species like we do.You also may want to read this before assuming that today's cows obtain their protein from munching grass.

http://www.naturalcanines.com/gpage8.html

"Every day, hundreds of rendering plants across the United States truck millions of tons of this 'food enhancer' to dairy industry, poultry ranches, cattle feed-lots, hog farms, fish-feed plants, and pet-food manufacturers. This food enhancer is mixed with other ingredients to feed the billions of animals. Rendering plants have different specialties. Some product-label names are: meat meal, meat by-products, poultry meal, poultry by-products, fishmeal, fish oil, yellow grease, tallow, beef fat and chicken fat. A 1991 USDA report states that approximately 7.9 billion pounds of meat, bone meal, blood meal, and feather meal was produced by rendering plants in 1983. Of that amount: 12 percent was used in dairy and beef cattle feed, 34 percent was used in pet food, 34 percent was used in poultry feed, 20 percent was used in pig food. Scientific American cites a dramatic rise in the use of animal protein in commercial dairy feed since 1987.

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I think the idea was what cows would gravitate towards eating

naturally, if they had a choice. Not what the brilliant animal-nazi

humans force down their throats. I've never seen a cow chase down a

rabbit or a mouse for a snack... And I live in the middle of cow

country here.

People do terrible things to cows. Over here they cut off their tails

so the milking guy doesn't have to occasionally suffer the ungodly

experience of being smacked in the face by a swishing tail. Very fair

and humane some of us, eh?

>

>

>

>

> >>>>Cows are vegetarians themselves so where do they get their

calcium and

> protein?

> >>Not from another species like we do.

>

> You also may want to read this before assuming that today's cows

obtain

> their protein from munching grass.

> http://www.naturalcanines.com/gpage8.html

>

> " Every day, hundreds of rendering plants across the United States

truck

> millions of tons of this 'food enhancer' to dairy industry, poultry

ranches,

> cattle feed-lots, hog farms, fish-feed plants, and pet-food

manufacturers.

> This food enhancer is mixed with other ingredients to feed the

billions of

> animals. Rendering plants have different specialties. Some product-label

> names are: meat meal, meat by-products, poultry meal, poultry

by-products,

> fishmeal, fish oil, yellow grease, tallow, beef fat and chicken fat.

A 1991

> USDA report states that approximately 7.9 billion pounds of meat,

bone meal,

> blood meal, and feather meal was produced by rendering plants in

1983. Of

> that amount: 12 percent was used in dairy and beef cattle feed, 34

percent

> was used in pet food, 34 percent was used in poultry feed, 20

percent was

> used in pig food. Scientific American cites a dramatic rise in the

use of

> animal protein in commercial dairy feed since 1987.

>

>

> Ingrid

>

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