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My 12 year old has been making animal sounds for years. She has Tourettes

and OCD, as well as ADHD and SID. She mostly mimics birds, but is

indistinguishable from real birds. She has at times mimicked dolphins,

monkeys, dogs, wolves, cats, and other animals. She sounds very much like

the animals. It is usually unbidden. She will hear an animal then mimic it,

not choose to make a sound of a particluar animal. She also mimics tv

characters, commercial jingles, and has near perfect recall of any script..

yet she will not get into drama or acting because she does not like being on

a stage in front of people. I believe this behavior is compulsive, rather

than tics. Sound tics I have seen in her are whistling, lip smacking,

nonsensical sounds, and cursing, also fixation of certain words like

" hippie " . She spent one long afternoon telling me over and over again about

that kind of animal like a donkey or burro, but actually called an a**. She

had to repeat the word at least a zillion times it seemed like, all the while

being innocent about it being a description of the animal, not anything else.

Sheesh. Now was this normal 12 year old shock the dad stuff, or was this

disorder related?

Jay in Colorado

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> nonsensical sounds, and cursing, also fixation of certain words like

> " hippie " . She spent one long afternoon telling me over and over again

about

> that kind of animal like a donkey or burro, but actually called an a**.

She

> had to repeat the word at least a zillion times it seemed like, all the

while

> being innocent about it being a description of the animal, not anything

else.

> Sheesh. Now was this normal 12 year old shock the dad stuff, or was this

> disorder related?

> Jay in Colorado

Good question. My daughter (6) came home from kindergarten fascinated with

" butt " and how it sounded just the same as " but " which you could say

anytime, but the other was a bad word according to her teacher and not

allowed in the classroom. Also hung up on whether, when she said " but " in

conversation, it may be misheard by others as " butt " , the bad word. And on

and on that afternoon as she tried to figure some way to say each word a bit

differently so she could cue others whether she meant " although " or meant to

be naughty. This whole thing seemed hinged on which word she was really

thinking of at the time, rather than context, so if " but " carried the

meaning but she thought " butt " when she said it, THAT was the trouble.

I'm sure the donkey word, whenever she first hears that, will be just as

problematic . . .

One of the only no-kidding OCD-fueled hysterias my child has had occured

recently, while listening to the soundtrack of Disney's " The Lion King. "

Pumbaa sings a song about his gas problems and nearly sings " farted " but his

friend jumps in and says " not in front of the kids! " Kellen *had* to know

what word Pumbaa almost sang, but as a Mom I felt weird telling her this

word which I didn't really want her saying anyway.

Sheesh is right :-)

Kathy R. in Indiana

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Jay, Kathy,

For years Tom (ages 2-4) ended every sentance with kaki (feces). We tried

ignoring, consequencing positive and negartive, EVERYTHING! He stopped after

a few years!

Tom used to use " 69 " in every conversation when he was 12 - 14. He could

tell you various mathematical equations based on 69, would look for items

with 69 in the price or name, get excited to read page 69, see house #69,

etc.

Aside from the embarassment that we felt, he thought we were making a bid

deal of nothing, and it was our problem, not his!!

I'll join in the sheesh!!!

wendy in canada wb4@...,

PS. Today I would identify it as an OCD thing and treat it as such - Boss it

Back, Whose in Control, etc.

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This whole thing seemed hinged on which word she was really thinking of at

the time, rather than context, so if " but " carried the meaning but she

thought " butt " when she said it, THAT was the trouble.

>I'm sure the donkey word, whenever she first hears that, will be just as

>problematic . . .

>One of the only no-kidding OCD-fueled hysterias my child has had occured

>recently, while listening to the soundtrack of Disney's " The Lion King. "

>Pumbaa sings a song about his gas problems and nearly sings " farted " but

>his friend jumps in and says " not in front of the kids! " Kellen *had* to

>know what word Pumbaa almost sang, but as a Mom I felt weird telling her

>this word which I didn't really want her saying anyway.>

>Sheesh is right :-)

>>Kathy R. in Indiana

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