Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 I've had some folks tell me that their hands were stiff and hurt. They've bathed their hands in the peroxide and it has helped them. I don't know if they were ever diagnosed with arthritus but that's what they said the perioxide cured. Acres USA has had some articles about using hydrogen peroxide with animals and I have read books (no memory of titles, sorry) about actually injecting it in humans. Belinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 HP can even be sprayed on fruits and veggies as a rinse then follow with vinegar and rinse in fresh water. This combo will kill just about everything. Be careful using on skin wounds. Prolonged use could prevent healing. My dad had a bad cut on his leg that he bathed in HP everyday. At first it got better but then it stopped healing. Apparently it kills friendly bacteria that aid in wound healing. His healer told him not to use it for more than three days. And usually one application was all it would take Amy hydrogen peroxide My dog has a hot spot and I have been using HP a couple of times a day to help it. Really had not ever had much reason to use HP but my daughter's vet told her to do that a few weeks earlier but also he gave the dog antibotics and a cordizone ( I think the spelling is wrong) shot. Her dog healed in 2 weeks. I just have been using the HP and my dog seems to be healing nicely. I read an ad in todays paper (usaweekend.com) about a little book intitled " The Amazing Health and Household Uses of Hydrogen Peroxide " ! Seems like this stuff is used for everything and valued as an amazing healer! Anybody else had any great healing stories using HP or any information about HP? Del Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 i use it to rinse my mouth after brushing. it is good for your breath and it makes your teeth whiter. my dentist told me to dilute it with half water. diana mushimushi12003 <mushimushi@...> wrote:My dog has a hot spot and I have been using HP a couple of times a day to help it. Really had not ever had much reason to use HP but my daughter's vet told her to do that a few weeks earlier but also he gave the dog antibotics and a cordizone ( I think the spelling is wrong) shot. Her dog healed in 2 weeks. I just have been using the HP and my dog seems to be healing nicely. I read an ad in todays paper (usaweekend.com) about a little book intitled " The Amazing Health and Household Uses of Hydrogen Peroxide " ! Seems like this stuff is used for everything and valued as an amazing healer! Anybody else had any great healing stories using HP or any information about HP? Del Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Thanks , The ad says that it will whiten teeth! I have been using Braggs apple cider vinegar for that. It will also whiten teeth and it removes tartar. That is great to know that your dentist told you that. My dentist told me to use listerine. Thanks again, Del My dog has a hot spot and I have been using HP a couple of times a > day to help it. Really had not ever had much reason to use HP but my > daughter's vet told her to do that a few weeks earlier but also he > gave the dog antibotics and a cordizone ( I think the spelling is > wrong) shot. Her dog healed in 2 weeks. I just have been using the HP > and my dog seems to be healing nicely. > > I read an ad in todays paper (usaweekend.com) about a little book > intitled " The Amazing Health and Household Uses of Hydrogen > Peroxide " ! Seems like this stuff is used for everything and valued as > an amazing healer! Anybody else had any great healing stories using > HP or any information about HP? > > Del > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 The ad says that it will tell you how to mix it to help with each ailment. Arthritis is on the list! Del > I've had some folks tell me that their hands were stiff and hurt. They've > bathed their hands in the peroxide and it has helped them. I don't know if they > were ever diagnosed with arthritus but that's what they said the perioxide > cured. Acres USA has had some articles about using hydrogen peroxide with animals > and I have read books (no memory of titles, sorry) about actually injecting it > in humans. > > Belinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 actually my dentist told me to use listerine. i told him i use peroxide and he said just be sure to dilute it. so, i alternate. diana mushimushi12003 <mushimushi@...> wrote:Thanks , The ad says that it will whiten teeth! I have been using Braggs apple cider vinegar for that. It will also whiten teeth and it removes tartar. That is great to know that your dentist told you that. My dentist told me to use listerine. Thanks again, Del My dog has a hot spot and I have been using HP a couple of times a > day to help it. Really had not ever had much reason to use HP but my > daughter's vet told her to do that a few weeks earlier but also he > gave the dog antibotics and a cordizone ( I think the spelling is > wrong) shot. Her dog healed in 2 weeks. I just have been using the HP > and my dog seems to be healing nicely. > > I read an ad in todays paper (usaweekend.com) about a little book > intitled " The Amazing Health and Household Uses of Hydrogen > Peroxide " ! Seems like this stuff is used for everything and valued as > an amazing healer! Anybody else had any great healing stories using > HP or any information about HP? > > Del > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 In a message dated 8/3/03 8:23:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, amyleewaters@... writes: > HP can even be sprayed on fruits and veggies as a rinse then follow with > vinegar and rinse in fresh water. This combo will kill just about everything. > Be careful using on skin wounds. Prolonged use could prevent healing. My > dad had a bad cut on his leg that he bathed in HP everyday. At first it got > better but then it stopped healing. Apparently it kills friendly bacteria > that aid in wound healing. His healer told him not to use it for more than > three days. And usually one application was all it would take It probably kills friendly bacteria on fruits and veggies too. From what I've heard, lactobacilli are anaerobic. I also question the use of HP in the mouth as well. Roughly 50% of mouth germs that cause tooth decay are aerobic. So wouldn't using HP kill the anaerobic and *help* the aerobic ones? It seems that's sort of playing Russian Roulette with your teeth. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 >>>That is great to know that your dentist told you that. My dentist told me to use listerine. ---->del, my holistic dentist also recommends a cleansing protocol involving hydrogen peroxide. however, i did a little research online (by no means was it *comprehensive* though) and i came away with the impression that there may typically be residual solvents in it left over from the processing or something. i searched for info on both food-grade and regular drug store h202 and i came away feeling uncomfortable putting either in my mouth so i decided to substitute a different oxygen product (cellfood). i'm just going on memory now and i don't recall the specific details. maybe the sources i read were not accurate, but i just decided to not use it until i felt certain i could find a pure source. also, i think chris posted a while back that there are harmful *aerobic* bacteria that inhabit our mouth as well as *anaerobic* ones, so the notion that h202 will make the mouth environmental inhospitible to pathogenic organisms may not be totally accurate. having said that, there seems to be quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that h2o2 is helping some folks with oral hygiene. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- “The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 i do not understand what u mean by aerobic vs. anaerobic referring to the teeth. can u elaborate? thanks, diana ChrisMasterjohn@... wrote:In a message dated 8/3/03 8:23:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, amyleewaters@... writes: > HP can even be sprayed on fruits and veggies as a rinse then follow with > vinegar and rinse in fresh water. This combo will kill just about everything. > Be careful using on skin wounds. Prolonged use could prevent healing. My > dad had a bad cut on his leg that he bathed in HP everyday. At first it got > better but then it stopped healing. Apparently it kills friendly bacteria > that aid in wound healing. His healer told him not to use it for more than > three days. And usually one application was all it would take It probably kills friendly bacteria on fruits and veggies too. From what I've heard, lactobacilli are anaerobic. I also question the use of HP in the mouth as well. Roughly 50% of mouth germs that cause tooth decay are aerobic. So wouldn't using HP kill the anaerobic and *help* the aerobic ones? It seems that's sort of playing Russian Roulette with your teeth. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 I was told to use HP in mouth only for short periods of time (week or less). I was told it could cause problems with prolonged use but can't remember why. This info was from a dentist. Amy Re: hydrogen peroxide In a message dated 8/3/03 8:23:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, amyleewaters@... writes: > HP can even be sprayed on fruits and veggies as a rinse then follow with > vinegar and rinse in fresh water. This combo will kill just about everything. > Be careful using on skin wounds. Prolonged use could prevent healing. My > dad had a bad cut on his leg that he bathed in HP everyday. At first it got > better but then it stopped healing. Apparently it kills friendly bacteria > that aid in wound healing. His healer told him not to use it for more than > three days. And usually one application was all it would take It probably kills friendly bacteria on fruits and veggies too. From what I've heard, lactobacilli are anaerobic. I also question the use of HP in the mouth as well. Roughly 50% of mouth germs that cause tooth decay are aerobic. So wouldn't using HP kill the anaerobic and *help* the aerobic ones? It seems that's sort of playing Russian Roulette with your teeth. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 I am perfectly happy using the Bragg Apple Cider Vinegar in my water pic. Within 1 week of using it I noticed that some tartar build up was gone. Then my grandson came along and made a comment that my teeth were getting whiter! This is all very interesting. There seems to be a lot of mixed beliefs about the benifits of HP. Maybe we will find a pure source in the future. I am a little uneasy about it too, right now. Especially since is the 2nd person to tell me that. do you have some references? Del > >>>That is great to know that your dentist told you that. My dentist > told me to use listerine. > > ---->del, my holistic dentist also recommends a cleansing protocol involving > hydrogen peroxide. however, i did a little research online (by no means was > it *comprehensive* though) and i came away with the impression that there > may typically be residual solvents in it left over from the processing or > something. i searched for info on both food-grade and regular drug store > h202 and i came away feeling uncomfortable putting either in my mouth so i > decided to substitute a different oxygen product (cellfood). i'm just going > on memory now and i don't recall the specific details. maybe the sources i > read were not accurate, but i just decided to not use it until i felt > certain i could find a pure source. > > also, i think chris posted a while back that there are harmful *aerobic* > bacteria that inhabit our mouth as well as *anaerobic* ones, so the notion > that h202 will make the mouth environmental inhospitible to pathogenic > organisms may not be totally accurate. having said that, there seems to be > quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that h2o2 is helping some folks with oral > hygiene. > > > > Suze Fisher > Lapdog Design, Inc. > Web Design & Development > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg > Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine > http://www.westonaprice.org > > ---------------------------- > " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause > heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " - - > Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt > University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. > > The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics > <http://www.thincs.org> > ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Del- Is that a raw vinegar? And how much do you use in the water pic, and how often do you use it? >I am perfectly happy using the Bragg Apple Cider Vinegar in my water >pic. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 In a message dated 8/4/03 8:54:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dianamagic2000@... writes: > i do not understand what u mean by aerobic vs. anaerobic referring to the > teeth. can u elaborate? thanks, diana Not the teeth, the bacteria. An aerobe survives in an oxygen-rich environment, an anaerobe thrives in an oxygen-deprived environment. Not all bacteria fit clearly into either category, and not all environments fit clearly into either category. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 In a message dated 8/4/03 12:45:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bettysmith997@... writes: > I've been using H2O2 as a mouthwash because I have a real problem > with gingivitis and receding gums. I've cleared the problem up, and > after doing some research, I have decided to stop. I gave up > toothpaste several months ago, and have been using baking soda. Does > anyone know of any problems with baking soda? Any better ideas for > toothbrushing? MSM is supposed to be good for brushing, and definitely in my experience makes your mouth feel great (though it's very bitter). It is also supposed to be excellent remedy for gingivitis and periodontitis (along with vitamin C and CoQ10). However, it is not supposed to replace toothpaste. You might want to mix CaCO3 (calcium carbonate) with your baking soda as an abrasive. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 In a message dated 8/4/03 3:47:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jafasum@... writes: > Do you remember what else the dentist said wears down enamel? Was > listerine on that list or other mouthwashes? I can't get a friend of mine to stop > using listerine, cause his dentist said it kills bacteria that cause decay and > he is cavity prone. Maybe this piece of data would get him off of it. I > have heard that the alcohol in mouthwashes can cause your gums to recede over > time, but that didn't seem to phase him. How about medium tooth brushes. You shouldn't brush with anything other than a soft or preferably ultra-soft or you're killing your gums and enamel. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 > also, i think chris posted a while back that there are harmful *aerobic* > bacteria that inhabit our mouth as well as *anaerobic* ones, so the notion > that h202 will make the mouth environmental inhospitible to pathogenic > organisms may not be totally accurate. having said that, there seems to be > quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that h2o2 is helping some folks with oral > hygiene. > I've been using H2O2 as a mouthwash because I have a real problem with gingivitis and receding gums. I've cleared the problem up, and after doing some research, I have decided to stop. I gave up toothpaste several months ago, and have been using baking soda. Does anyone know of any problems with baking soda? Any better ideas for toothbrushing? Betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Bragg Apple Cider vinegar is raw unfiltered, unpasturized and organic! I don't measure. I just pour come in maybe a Tablespoon more or less. I have been using it twice a day for about 3 weeks now. I also make a drink with it using 1 teaspoon each of the vinegar and local raw honey..sip it with meals. It has been working well as I noticed my tummy seems more settled after a meal. Del --- In , Idol <Idol@c...> wrote: > Del- > > Is that a raw vinegar? And how much do you use in the water pic, and how > often do you use it? > > >I am perfectly happy using the Bragg Apple Cider Vinegar in my water > >pic. > > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Thanks Amy, I appreciate your input. Have you been doing it and for how long? Have you noticed any change? Del > I was told to use HP in mouth only for short periods of time (week or less). I was told it could cause problems with prolonged use but can't remember why. This info was from a dentist. > > Amy > Re: hydrogen peroxide > > > In a message dated 8/3/03 8:23:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > amyleewaters@c... writes: > > > HP can even be sprayed on fruits and veggies as a rinse then follow with > > vinegar and rinse in fresh water. This combo will kill just about everything. > > Be careful using on skin wounds. Prolonged use could prevent healing. My > > dad had a bad cut on his leg that he bathed in HP everyday. At first it got > > better but then it stopped healing. Apparently it kills friendly bacteria > > that aid in wound healing. His healer told him not to use it for more than > > three days. And usually one application was all it would take > > It probably kills friendly bacteria on fruits and veggies too. From what > I've heard, lactobacilli are anaerobic. > > I also question the use of HP in the mouth as well. Roughly 50% of mouth > germs that cause tooth decay are aerobic. So wouldn't using HP kill the > anaerobic and *help* the aerobic ones? It seems that's sort of playing Russian > Roulette with your teeth. > > Chris > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Great testimony Betsy! Thanks for sharing! I also had gingivitis and receding gum lines. The thing that corrected that problem for me was the listerine used in my water pik 3 times a day and also flossing 3 times a day. It did nothing for the tartar on my teeth though! I no longer use the listerine because I just don't think it is good for me any longer. Now I use the vinegar and have had so much more improvement! I tried baking soda for awhile but gave it up. Now I am using Tom's natural toothpaste. It seems to be okay. Del --- In , " Betsy " <bettysmith997@h...> wrote: > > also, i think chris posted a while back that there are harmful > *aerobic* > > bacteria that inhabit our mouth as well as *anaerobic* ones, so the > notion > > that h202 will make the mouth environmental inhospitible to > pathogenic > > organisms may not be totally accurate. having said that, there > seems to be > > quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that h2o2 is helping some folks > with oral > > hygiene. > > > > I've been using H2O2 as a mouthwash because I have a real problem > with gingivitis and receding gums. I've cleared the problem up, and > after doing some research, I have decided to stop. I gave up > toothpaste several months ago, and have been using baking soda. Does > anyone know of any problems with baking soda? Any better ideas for > toothbrushing? > Betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Make that 3. I heard the dentist talk at the WAPF convention in Arlington. (Sorry, don't have his name handy.) He had Hydrogen Peroxide on a list of substances that wear down the tooth enamel. I stopped using it in my water pic after that. Daphne > > >>>That is great to know that your dentist told you that. My dentist > > told me to use listerine. > > > > ---->del, my holistic dentist also recommends a cleansing protocol > involving > > hydrogen peroxide. however, i did a little research online (by no > means was > > it *comprehensive* though) and i came away with the impression that > there > > may typically be residual solvents in it left over from the > processing or > > something. i searched for info on both food-grade and regular drug > store > > h202 and i came away feeling uncomfortable putting either in my > mouth so i > > decided to substitute a different oxygen product (cellfood). i'm > just going > > on memory now and i don't recall the specific details. maybe the > sources i > > read were not accurate, but i just decided to not use it until i > felt > > certain i could find a pure source. > > > > also, i think chris posted a while back that there are harmful > *aerobic* > > bacteria that inhabit our mouth as well as *anaerobic* ones, so the > notion > > that h202 will make the mouth environmental inhospitible to > pathogenic > > organisms may not be totally accurate. having said that, there > seems to be > > quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that h2o2 is helping some folks > with oral > > hygiene. > > > > > > > > Suze Fisher > > Lapdog Design, Inc. > > Web Design & Development > > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg > > Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine > > http://www.westonaprice.org > > > > ---------------------------- > > " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol > cause > > heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " - > - > > Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at > Vanderbilt > > University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. > > > > The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics > > <http://www.thincs.org> > > ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 I have been washing fruits and veggies this way for about 6 months. There is no after taste. I dry good afterwards and notice that things don't mold up they sitt for long. Like stawberries etc. I am a fanatic about washing store bought food. I even wash bananas. Amy Re: hydrogen peroxide > > > In a message dated 8/3/03 8:23:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > amyleewaters@c... writes: > > > HP can even be sprayed on fruits and veggies as a rinse then follow with > > vinegar and rinse in fresh water. This combo will kill just about everything. > > Be careful using on skin wounds. Prolonged use could prevent healing. My > > dad had a bad cut on his leg that he bathed in HP everyday. At first it got > > better but then it stopped healing. Apparently it kills friendly bacteria > > that aid in wound healing. His healer told him not to use it for more than > > three days. And usually one application was all it would take > > It probably kills friendly bacteria on fruits and veggies too. From what > I've heard, lactobacilli are anaerobic. > > I also question the use of HP in the mouth as well. Roughly 50% of mouth > germs that cause tooth decay are aerobic. So wouldn't using HP kill the > anaerobic and *help* the aerobic ones? It seems that's sort of playing Russian > Roulette with your teeth. > > Chris > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Thanks Daphne for sharing. I appreciate it! That bit of info is coming from a good source. I guess there is no such thing as a " pure " HP. Did he say what was best to use in the water pik? Del > > > >>>That is great to know that your dentist told you that. My > dentist > > > told me to use listerine. > > > > > > ---->del, my holistic dentist also recommends a cleansing > protocol > > involving > > > hydrogen peroxide. however, i did a little research online (by no > > means was > > > it *comprehensive* though) and i came away with the impression > that > > there > > > may typically be residual solvents in it left over from the > > processing or > > > something. i searched for info on both food-grade and regular > drug > > store > > > h202 and i came away feeling uncomfortable putting either in my > > mouth so i > > > decided to substitute a different oxygen product (cellfood). i'm > > just going > > > on memory now and i don't recall the specific details. maybe the > > sources i > > > read were not accurate, but i just decided to not use it until i > > felt > > > certain i could find a pure source. > > > > > > also, i think chris posted a while back that there are harmful > > *aerobic* > > > bacteria that inhabit our mouth as well as *anaerobic* ones, so > the > > notion > > > that h202 will make the mouth environmental inhospitible to > > pathogenic > > > organisms may not be totally accurate. having said that, there > > seems to be > > > quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that h2o2 is helping some folks > > with oral > > > hygiene. > > > > > > > > > > > > Suze Fisher > > > Lapdog Design, Inc. > > > Web Design & Development > > > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg > > > Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine > > > http://www.westonaprice.org > > > > > > ---------------------------- > > > " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and > cholesterol > > cause > > > heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our > times. " - > > - > > > Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at > > Vanderbilt > > > University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. > > > > > > The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics > > > <http://www.thincs.org> > > > ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Daphne, Do you remember what else the dentist said wears down enamel? Was listerine on that list or other mouthwashes? I can't get a friend of mine to stop using listerine, cause his dentist said it kills bacteria that cause decay and he is cavity prone. Maybe this piece of data would get him off of it. I have heard that the alcohol in mouthwashes can cause your gums to recede over time, but that didn't seem to phase him. Jafa mushimushi12003 <mushimushi@...> wrote: Thanks Daphne for sharing. I appreciate it! That bit of info is coming from a good source. I guess there is no such thing as a " pure " HP. Did he say what was best to use in the water pik? Del > > > >>>That is great to know that your dentist told you that. My > dentist > > > told me to use listerine. > > > > > > ---->del, my holistic dentist also recommends a cleansing > protocol > > involving > > > hydrogen peroxide. however, i did a little research online (by no > > means was > > > it *comprehensive* though) and i came away with the impression > that > > there > > > may typically be residual solvents in it left over from the > > processing or > > > something. i searched for info on both food-grade and regular > drug > > store > > > h202 and i came away feeling uncomfortable putting either in my > > mouth so i > > > decided to substitute a different oxygen product (cellfood). i'm > > just going > > > on memory now and i don't recall the specific details. maybe the > > sources i > > > read were not accurate, but i just decided to not use it until i > > felt > > > certain i could find a pure source. > > > > > > also, i think chris posted a while back that there are harmful > > *aerobic* > > > bacteria that inhabit our mouth as well as *anaerobic* ones, so > the > > notion > > > that h202 will make the mouth environmental inhospitible to > > pathogenic > > > organisms may not be totally accurate. having said that, there > > seems to be > > > quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that h2o2 is helping some folks > > with oral > > > hygiene. > > > > > > > > > > > > Suze Fisher > > > Lapdog Design, Inc. > > > Web Design & Development > > > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg > > > Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine > > > http://www.westonaprice.org > > > > > > ---------------------------- > > > " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and > cholesterol > > cause > > > heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our > times. " - > > - > > > Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at > > Vanderbilt > > > University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. > > > > > > The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics > > > <http://www.thincs.org> > > > ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 In a message dated 8/4/03 6:20:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, heidis@... writes: > The ACV idea seems good to me -- one company is experimenting > with probiotic toothpaste and the idea is to displace the bad bacteria > with good ones. Which makes a whole lot of sense -- trying to > make your mouth *sterile* seems kind of hopeless! Like taking > antibiotics to kill the bacteria in your gut -- yeah, they will > die, then the bad ones will move in ... However, I don't know > what bacteria are the best ones for your mouth. Raw ACV worked good for me. Someone on a different list recommended it to me and it made my gum bleeding go away almost immediately. However, it only made a dent in my periodontitis readings. I think my severe periodontitis is a result of my root canals, and I'll probably also have to remove my wisdom teeth to finally get rid of it once and for good. I don't know what kind of bacteria are good for the teeth, but kefir contains the organism that most commonly infects teeth so either a)they aren't the same ones that are good for the gut or what kind of bacteria in your mouth are totally irrelevant to hygeine, and bacteria overgrowth is wholly a function of gum health and tooth health. In the latter case, the ACV might help just by introducing competing bacteria/yeasts to crowd out overgrown ones. Like our gut has hundreds of bacteria that could be considered pathogenic if they gained dominance but are healthy when they are kept in check/keeping the others in check. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 >. Does >anyone know of any problems with baking soda? Any better ideas for >toothbrushing? >Betsy I used baking soda for years, worked great. I switched to Total because it DOES help prevent plaque. My receding gums are no longer receding and most have grown back -- I think this is because I'm taking a bunch of supplements now (calcium, C, and B, since I don't absorb stuff as well as I should) and my diet is better (none of the stuff I react to). The ACV idea seems good to me -- one company is experimenting with probiotic toothpaste and the idea is to displace the bad bacteria with good ones. Which makes a whole lot of sense -- trying to make your mouth *sterile* seems kind of hopeless! Like taking antibiotics to kill the bacteria in your gut -- yeah, they will die, then the bad ones will move in ... However, I don't know what bacteria are the best ones for your mouth. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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