Re: Are Breakfast formulas good for kids

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I think it unfair to expect everyoone to eat as you do. The cereals in the grocery store are really bad, I admit. They are full of sugar, salt and perservatives nopt good but theere are some alternatives at the HFS..still you have to read the labels.

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From: SV <shavig@...>Subject: Re: Are Breakfast formulas good for kidshealth Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 6:49 PM

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I thunk it's kashi brand that's typically decent out of all the box

cereals. perhaps not as good as eating cardboard since it does have

some sugar and salt in it. but my son and wife seem to be perty happy

with the taste..and has a good amt of fiber in it too. btw, .y wife n

kid have not yet transitioned to the cardoard flavor cereals free of

sugar, salt, n fat yet...will they ever...hmmm .. dunno bout that yet.

if ur looking for hot cereal...bulk bin steel cut or even the ultra

expensive in the box (same taste and type steel cut) works fine for

hot cereal...

what have u (anyone) found to work for cereal (hot or cold)?

kelvin

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On 4/26/09, Anne Bird <irishfox99@...> wrote:

> I think it unfair to expect everyoone to eat as you do.  The cereals in the

> grocery store are really bad, I admit.  They are full of sugar, salt and

> perservatives nopt good but theere are some alternatives at the HFS..still

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> Anne

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Ok, they may be steamed and processed but still much better health choice than commercial cereal. Let us all remember that we are all on different journeys or pathways in this world and in our lives... We are all where we are supposed to be at this very moment.. None is wrong or right.. just a different step along the journey. Let us all respect that we are all different and doing what we can or are able to at this point... we must remember where we live makes a difference, what we can afford makes a difference, what we have learned so far in life, makes a difference... etc... Because one chooses to be totally raw and another chooses raw plus meat, or another chooses 'balanced meals"... that is where everyone is in their life. or their quest. What is the old saying... "until you walk a mile in my shoes, don't

judge me, just be my friend"

Ok, I'm off my soap box.. I just want all of us to realize that no two of us are the same and as long as we listen, learn, ask, share, and love... it's a wonderful world.

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I do not expect anything of anyone, especially for them to eat the way I do. But why not tell them the truth and let them make up their own mind?

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I agree with you Suzanne and I hadn't read this when I posted my last post. Pretty much what you said here, but in a much more diplomatic way!

Thanks, Shari

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Oat groats soaked overnight.

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Kashi Cinnamon Harvest works for us. Actually all of Kashi cereals are gone in a few days here. We tend to snack on them with almonds. The honey sunshine is a little too sweet, and I get complaints from my fourteen year old son. He doesn't like soda or apple juice eithier. He will drink Gatorade if there is no water around, but lets us all know about it. He gets pressure from his friends sometimes, but won't budge on the water. It is actually comical. I can't eat oatmeal, it makes me sleepy within twenty minutes... I'm gone. No one in my family will even try oatmeal anymore, they just don't like the taste. So no hot cereal here.

Debra

From: Kelvin <kelvin.internet@...>health Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:19:03 PMSubject: Re: Are Breakfast formulas good for kids

I thunk it's kashi brand that's typically decent out of all the boxcereals. perhaps not as good as eating cardboard since it does havesome sugar and salt in it. but my son and wife seem to be perty happywith the taste..and has a good amt of fiber in it too. btw, .y wife nkid have not yet transitioned to the cardoard flavor cereals free ofsugar, salt, n fat yet...will they ever...hmmm .. dunno bout that yet.if ur looking for hot cereal...bulk bin steel cut or even the ultraexpensive in the box (same taste and type steel cut) works fine forhot cereal....what have u (anyone) found to work for cereal (hot or cold)?kelvinvia cell

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debra wrote:

>>

I can't eat oatmeal, it makes me sleepy within twenty

> minutes... I'm gone. No one in my family will even try oatmeal anymore,

> they just don't like the taste. So no hot cereal here.

<<

interesting.. is it just oatmeal or have you noticed other foods? i

just looked at the oatmeal nutritional profile and it's marked at

about 19g of carbs for 1cup of quaker oats... that's appx 1/2 the

total carbs of brown rice. do you notice knocking out after eating

high carb foods like rice or noodles or breads or any pastas? i am

prone to get major food comatose after eating something w/high carb

count. well, i THINK that's the case since i haven't really done any

real " tests/experiments " to see what typically knocks me out. for the

most part, i notice it's a pattern - just not as consistent as i'd

expect - so that's why i'm not sure if it's just carbs. anyway, i

digress. took a quick peak at steel cut and quinoa and millet and

they don't look any more low-carb friendly either!

hmmm... but oatmeal doesn't knock me out... i wonder what it could be

for you tho... do you eat your oatmeal (when you do) with anything?

i'm guessing sugar, honey, or something to sweeten it? anyway, i used

to feel the same way about oatmeal, until i jazzed it up... with:

kashi or even just some kind of granola cereal

fresh fruits

dried fruits

or all of the above...

and oatmeal doesn't have to be so thick either! another thing i

wasn't too fond of. i don't follow any particular instructions on

making oatmeal tho... i add enough water for just how i like my

oatmeal... a li'l thick ... but not so thick i'll choke on it...

hmmm..kinda runny...but not so much like a soup either.

anyway... oatmeal is a GREAT fiber mover food! but sure, that's not

the only source of fiber.

just my 2cents!

i've never ventured beyond the " go lean " granola line of kashi's

product tho. and ya...they don't taste too sweet either, which is

good. lately, tho, i've been looking at the variety of granolas they

have in the bulk bins (sprouts is more reasonably priced than

wholefoods - if you have both available to you)... i think even

henry's is not so high in price for their bulk bins compared to whole

foods... anyway, i estimated that the bulk bins are about $1/lb less

at regular price than kashi on sale. so i've been exploring the

nutritional profiles of those granola bins with kashi (namely fiber

and sugar content) and see how they taste. if i can find just as good

for less in taste and quality, why not, right?!

to good eating!

Kelvin

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Rainbow Spirit

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> Kashi Cinnamon Harvest works for us.  Actually all of Kashi cereals are gone

> in a few days here.  We tend to snack on them with almonds.  The honey

> sunshine is a little too sweet, and I get complaints from my fourteen year

> old son.  He doesn't like soda or apple juice eithier.  He will drink

> Gatorade if there is no water around, but lets us all know about it.  He

> gets pressure from his friends sometimes, but won't budge on the water.  It

> is actually comical. I can't eat oatmeal, it makes me sleepy within twenty

> minutes... I'm gone.  No one in my family will even try oatmeal anymore,

> they just don't like the taste.  So no hot cereal here.

>

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> Debra

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> Subject: Re: Are Breakfast formulas good for kids

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> I thunk it's kashi brand that's typically decent out of all the box

> cereals. perhaps not as good as eating cardboard since it does have

> some sugar and salt in it. but my son and wife seem to be perty happy

> with the taste..and has a good amt of fiber in it too. btw, .y wife n

> kid have not yet transitioned to the cardoard flavor cereals free of

> sugar, salt, n fat yet...will they ever...hmmm .. dunno bout that yet.

>

> if ur looking for hot cereal...bulk bin steel cut or even the ultra

> expensive in the box (same taste and type steel cut) works fine for

> hot cereal....

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> what have u (anyone) found to work for cereal (hot or cold)?

>

> kelvin

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Oatmeal is good with some cinnamon and honey, just I can't eat it. Can't eat granola cereal or the bars for the same reason. I can have rice and pasta that doesn't seem to bother me as long as I don't go overboard. If I eat a hamburger (once a year), I have to make a decision to eat the meat or the bread not the two combined or I get really sleepy. Too much bread is not good for me eithier. At one time I was able to eat most anything, but that all changed a few years ago when I became really sick and my liver was inflammed. Things went from bad to worse for a while, when finally I made a choice. I needed to enjoy my life and adjust my attitude towards fiber rich foods. Once I made the choice to incorporate this foods on the front lines my my health improved. Took me a few months to get back on track well, actually a year and I now have tons of energy.

Just the process to get there wasn't fun. Yes, we have a Henry's and Trader Joe's no Sprouts out here. My family really enjoys the granola bars from Trader Joe's.

Debra

From: Kelvin <kelvin.internet@...>health Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30:39 PMSubject: Re: Are Breakfast formulas good for kids

debra wrote:>>I can't eat oatmeal, it makes me sleepy within twenty> minutes... I'm gone. No one in my family will even try oatmeal anymore,> they just don't like the taste. So no hot cereal here.<<interesting. . is it just oatmeal or have you noticed other foods? ijust looked at the oatmeal nutritional profile and it's marked atabout 19g of carbs for 1cup of quaker oats... that's appx 1/2 thetotal carbs of brown rice. do you notice knocking out after eatinghigh carb foods like rice or noodles or breads or any pastas? i amprone to get major food comatose after eating something w/high carbcount. well, i THINK that's the case since i haven't really done anyreal "tests/experiments" to see what typically knocks me out. for themost part, i notice it's a pattern - just not as consistent as i'dexpect - so that's why i'm not sure if it's just carbs. anyway, idigress. took a

quick peak at steel cut and quinoa and millet andthey don't look any more low-carb friendly either! :)hmmm... but oatmeal doesn't knock me out... i wonder what it could befor you tho... do you eat your oatmeal (when you do) with anything?i'm guessing sugar, honey, or something to sweeten it? anyway, i usedto feel the same way about oatmeal, until i jazzed it up... with:kashi or even just some kind of granola cerealfresh fruitsdried fruitsor all of the above...and oatmeal doesn't have to be so thick either! another thing iwasn't too fond of. i don't follow any particular instructions onmaking oatmeal tho.... i add enough water for just how i like myoatmeal... a li'l thick ... but not so thick i'll choke on it...hmmm..kinda runny...but not so much like a soup either.anyway... oatmeal is a GREAT fiber mover food! but sure, that's notthe only source of fiber.just my

2cents!i've never ventured beyond the "go lean" granola line of kashi'sproduct tho. and ya...they don't taste too sweet either, which isgood. lately, tho, i've been looking at the variety of granolas theyhave in the bulk bins (sprouts is more reasonably priced thanwholefoods - if you have both available to you)... i think evenhenry's is not so high in price for their bulk bins compared to wholefoods... anyway, i estimated that the bulk bins are about $1/lb lessat regular price than kashi on sale. so i've been exploring thenutritional profiles of those granola bins with kashi (namely fiberand sugar content) and see how they taste. if i can find just as goodfor less in taste and quality, why not, right?! :)to good eating!Kelvin

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i should get to work...but ok... last post for now!

back in college i NEVER had problems eating carbs & protein (still

haven't figured out if it's a combo or one or the other) without

knocking out for 30mins about 1-2h after my meal. while i was lucky

not to experience anything extreme like what you had mentioned, it did

cause problems (inconveniences) in my life. i had major food

comatose...and it seemed random too! sometimes i'd knockout and

sometimes i'd be fine...and sometimes i'd just be groggy, but can

still function - albeit minimally!

since switching to a predominantly veggie diet (raw or lightly cooked)

with some carbs and/or meat on social occasions or " minor cheating, " i

have ALSO experienced ABUNDANT ENERGY in my life! crap! it's like the

fog/haze lifted from around my head and i have so much more clarity

and energy now! to think i coulda experienced this a lot earlier,

just gets me!

but YES... LOVE the extra energy... so much so that i'm now operating

optimally at 5-6h of sleep rather than 7-8h ... and over consecutive

days!! THAT was unheard of for me... to sleep less than 5h for more

than 2 days consecutively AND still be functional or not need

stimulants.

and now, i can do 5h consecutive if i wanted to (but 5.5 seems to be

my average) for a week and still be optimally functional w/o

stimulants... heck, i can do a few 3h days w/o major impact in the

week! i LOVE my new found health!! i might also add that it isn't

just my diet that has changed... exercise and rest is the rest of the

equation for optimal health.

my new saying now to sum it all is this:

nothing tastes as good or better than how optimal health feels!

and yes... since my " rebirth, " my family think i'm some hippie or

fanatic/health nut b/c of how much passion i have for the benefits

i've gained. kinda sad that the living dead among us can be SO

ignorant and complacent in their average health (and average health in

america is a perty sad state - so that's not saying much!)... hmmm.. i

know that sounds bad read...but it's truly sad to me.

real choice is when you KNOW from experience both sides. in this

case... i have known poor health, average health, and now... super

health. it's not a real choice when you can only choose from the

option of what you've experienced physically and from an option that

you can only IMAGINE to POSSIBLY be if you were to experience it

physically. in other words, to make a choice between known and

imagined is unfair and not a real choice at all.

i am no longer chained to my imagination of choice, now that i have

experienced first hand optimal health. i contend that a " choice "

between real experience and imagined experience is sadly not much of a

choice at all for most people. people will stick to the familiar and

certain. playing with my choices, i have proven to myself time and

again that choosing my old lifestyle is much like choosing to be at a

disadvantage... limited. any sane and intelligent person would NOT

choose poor quality and sub par performance when they have the choice

for high quality and outstanding performance. it's like choosing to

be financially struggling vs. financially independent... there's no

competition in choice!

sorry... i got off on a rant... but REALLY! and yes.. i know

(firsthand - many, many times in my life)... it's " so hard " to change.

but to put things into perspective... we're talking about the

FOUNDATION to a PREMIUM QUALITY OF LIFE. i have such a huge advantage

over the majority because by DEFAULT, I am feeling great, energetic

and happy! if i choose to have a positive attitude WITH that...

there's nothing long term to pull me back down... nothing to feel

tired or depressed about because of that solid foundation of health.

anyway... I wish everyone in this list the best in health. i've been

blinded for so long... and this new me is FANTASTIC! change isn't

comfortable... no real change is - otherwise it wouldn't be much of a

change. fortunately, we have momentum that can work FOR us once we

get going. I look forward to helping others around me soon... i have

been studying diligently and taking lots of notes for just the

fundamentals - optimal health is really about the fundamentals...

nothing really fancy to optimal health!!

ok, i'm done... sorry for the overboard ranting and raving!! i had to

get that out of my system (again - i say " again " cuz this is the same

rant, refined over each iteration, that i tend to make to anyone i'm

excited telling about what i've discovered for myself).

checking out for now (time to work!),

Kelvin

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Rainbow Spirit

<rainbowspirit333@...> wrote:

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> Oatmeal is good with some cinnamon and honey, just I can't eat it.  Can't

> eat granola cereal or the bars for the same reason.  I can have rice and

> pasta that doesn't seem to bother me as long as I don't go overboard.  If I

> eat a hamburger (once a year), I have to make a decision to eat the meat or

> the bread not the two combined or I get really sleepy.  Too much bread is

> not good for me eithier.  At one time I was able to eat most anything,

> but that all changed a few years ago when I became really sick and my liver

> was inflammed.  Things went from bad to worse for a while, when finally I

> made a choice. I needed to enjoy my life and adjust my attitude towards

> fiber rich foods.  Once I made the choice to incorporate this foods on the

> front lines my my health improved.  Took me a few months to get back on

> track well, actually a year and I now have tons of energy.  Just the process

> to get there wasn't fun.   Yes, we have a Henry's and Trader Joe's no

> Sprouts out here.  My family really enjoys the granola bars from Trader

> Joe's.

>

> Debra

>

> ________________________________

> From: Kelvin <kelvin.internet@...>

> health

> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30:39 PM

> Subject: Re: Are Breakfast formulas good for kids

>

> debra wrote:

>>>

> I can't eat oatmeal, it makes me sleepy within twenty

>> minutes... I'm gone. No one in my family will even try oatmeal anymore,

>> they just don't like the taste. So no hot cereal here.

> <<

>

> interesting. . is it just oatmeal or have you noticed other foods? i

> just looked at the oatmeal nutritional profile and it's marked at

> about 19g of carbs for 1cup of quaker oats... that's appx 1/2 the

> total carbs of brown rice. do you notice knocking out after eating

> high carb foods like rice or noodles or breads or any pastas? i am

> prone to get major food comatose after eating something w/high carb

> count. well, i THINK that's the case since i haven't really done any

> real " tests/experiments " to see what typically knocks me out. for the

> most part, i notice it's a pattern - just not as consistent as i'd

> expect - so that's why i'm not sure if it's just carbs. anyway, i

> digress. took a quick peak at steel cut and quinoa and millet and

> they don't look any more low-carb friendly either!

>

> hmmm... but oatmeal doesn't knock me out... i wonder what it could be

> for you tho... do you eat your oatmeal (when you do) with anything?

> i'm guessing sugar, honey, or something to sweeten it? anyway, i used

> to feel the same way about oatmeal, until i jazzed it up... with:

>

> kashi or even just some kind of granola cereal

> fresh fruits

> dried fruits

> or all of the above...

>

> and oatmeal doesn't have to be so thick either! another thing i

> wasn't too fond of. i don't follow any particular instructions on

> making oatmeal tho.... i add enough water for just how i like my

> oatmeal... a li'l thick ... but not so thick i'll choke on it...

> hmmm..kinda runny...but not so much like a soup either.

>

> anyway... oatmeal is a GREAT fiber mover food! but sure, that's not

> the only source of fiber.

>

> just my 2cents!

>

> i've never ventured beyond the " go lean " granola line of kashi's

> product tho. and ya...they don't taste too sweet either, which is

> good. lately, tho, i've been looking at the variety of granolas they

> have in the bulk bins (sprouts is more reasonably priced than

> wholefoods - if you have both available to you)... i think even

> henry's is not so high in price for their bulk bins compared to whole

> foods... anyway, i estimated that the bulk bins are about $1/lb less

> at regular price than kashi on sale. so i've been exploring the

> nutritional profiles of those granola bins with kashi (namely fiber

> and sugar content) and see how they taste. if i can find just as good

> for less in taste and quality, why not, right?!

>

> to good eating!

> Kelvin

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What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered.>>>> I can't eat oatmeal, it makes me sleepy within twenty>> minutes... I'm gone. No one in my family will even try oatmeal anymore,>> they just don't like the taste. So no hot cereal here.> <<>> interesting. . is it just oatmeal or have you noticed other foods? i> just looked at the oatmeal nutritional profile and it's marked at> about 19g of carbs for 1cup of quaker oats... that's appx 1/2 the> total carbs of brown rice. do you notice

knocking out after eating> high carb foods like rice or noodles or breads or any pastas? i am> prone to get major food comatose after eating something w/high carb> count. well, i THINK that's the case since i haven't really done any> real "tests/experiments" to see what typically knocks me out. for the> most part, i notice it's a pattern - just not as consistent as i'd> expect - so that's why i'm not sure if it's just carbs. anyway, i> digress. took a quick peak at steel cut and quinoa and millet and> they don't look any more low-carb friendly either! >> hmmm... but oatmeal doesn't knock me out... i wonder what it could be> for you tho... do you eat your oatmeal (when you do) with anything?> i'm guessing sugar, honey, or something to sweeten it? anyway, i used> to feel the same way about oatmeal, until i jazzed it up... with:>> kashi or even just

some kind of granola cereal> fresh fruits> dried fruits> or all of the above...>> and oatmeal doesn't have to be so thick either! another thing i> wasn't too fond of. i don't follow any particular instructions on> making oatmeal tho.... i add enough water for just how i like my> oatmeal... a li'l thick ... but not so thick i'll choke on it...> hmmm..kinda runny...but not so much like a soup either.>> anyway... oatmeal is a GREAT fiber mover food! but sure, that's not> the only source of fiber.>> just my 2cents!>> i've never ventured beyond the "go lean" granola line of kashi's> product tho. and ya...they don't taste too sweet either, which is> good. lately, tho, i've been looking at the variety of granolas they> have in the bulk bins (sprouts is more reasonably priced than> wholefoods - if you have both available

to you)... i think even> henry's is not so high in price for their bulk bins compared to whole> foods... anyway, i estimated that the bulk bins are about $1/lb less> at regular price than kashi on sale. so i've been exploring the> nutritional profiles of those granola bins with kashi (namely fiber> and sugar content) and see how they taste. if i can find just as good> for less in taste and quality, why not, right?! >> to good eating!> Kelvin>> Recent Activity>> 5> New Members>> Visit Your Group> Give Back>> for Good>> Get inspired>> by a good cause.>> Y! Toolbar>> Get it Free!>> easy 1-click access>> to your groups.>> >> Start a group>> in 3 easy steps.>>

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Wow, your energy is leaping off of the page. ) Good for you!! You're right change is beneficial, but it isn't easy, once it's done though and you look back, you have to say I should of done that sooner. But, if we don't learn from our mistakes we'll just keep making them. I'm pretty stubborn, didn't want to change my eating habits. Once I made that choice and held fast to it, things became so much better for me. I was lucky my family supported me, because when they realized I was getting better they started eating some of the foods that I was and actually liked them. Although they are still meat eaters, their sugar cravings have dropped. ;o) Yes, I watch and listen to the "living dead" and know that I shared the same mentality as them at one time. Do you ever notice how some people eat? I mean they just inhale their food, I wonder if they

even taste it? I have always been a slow eater because I like to taste what I eat and I think that also makes a difference in ones health. If we don't taste the food, how do we know if we like it? Mindless eating catches up with them, but it is personal choice and one that needs to be respected. So...I keep my comments to myself, well except for the occassional outburst. ;o) Hubby's pal just gets to me sometimes, and he knows I will say something to him. Ah well...such is life, it is how our friendship works. I'm glad to be on this journey with energetic people like you. I'm learning new things all of the time about the benefits of healthy eating.

Debra

From: Kelvin <kelvin.internet@...>health Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:03:30 PMSubject: Re: Are Breakfast formulas good for kids

back in college i NEVER had problems eating carbs & protein (stillhaven't figured out if it's a combo or one or the other) withoutknocking out for 30mins about 1-2h after my meal. while i was luckynot to experience anything extreme like what you had mentioned, it didcause problems (inconveniences) in my life. i had major foodcomatose...and it seemed random too! sometimes i'd knockout andsometimes i'd be fine...and sometimes i'd just be groggy, but canstill function - albeit minimally!since switching to a predominantly veggie diet (raw or lightly cooked)with some carbs and/or meat on social occasions or "minor cheating," ihave ALSO experienced ABUNDANT ENERGY in my life! crap! it's like the fog/haze lifted from around my head and i have so much more clarityand energy now! to think i coulda experienced this a lot earlier,just gets me!but YES... LOVE the extra energy... so much so

that i'm now operatingoptimally at 5-6h of sleep rather than 7-8h ... and over consecutivedays!! THAT was unheard of for me... to sleep less than 5h for morethan 2 days consecutively AND still be functional or not needstimulants.my new saying now to sum it all is this:nothing tastes as good or better than how optimal health feels!and yes... since my "rebirth," my family think i'm some hippie orfanatic/health nut b/c of how much passion i have for the benefitsi've gained. kinda sad that the living dead among us can be SOignorant and complacent in their average health (and average health inamerica is a perty sad state - so that's not saying much!)... hmmm.. iknow that sounds bad read...but it's truly sad to me.real choice is when you KNOW from experience both sides. in thiscase... i have known poor health, average health, and now... superhealth. it's not a real choice when you can

only choose from theoption of what you've experienced physically and from an option thatyou can only IMAGINE to POSSIBLY be if you were to experience itphysically. in other words, to make a choice between known andimagined is unfair and not a real choice at all.i am no longer chained to my imagination of choice, now that i haveexperienced first hand optimal health. i contend that a "choice"between real experience and imagined experience is sadly not much of achoice at all for most people. people will stick to the familiar andcertain. playing with my choices, i have proven to myself time andagain that choosing my old lifestyle is much like choosing to be at adisadvantage. .. limited. any sane and intelligent person would NOTchoose poor quality and sub par performance when they have the choicefor high quality and outstanding performance. it's like choosing tobe financially struggling vs.

financially independent. .. there's nocompetition in choice! :)anyway... I wish everyone in this list the best in health. i've beenblinded for so long... and this new me is FANTASTIC! change isn'tcomfortable. .. no real change is - otherwise it wouldn't be much of achange. fortunately, we have momentum that can work FOR us once weget going. I look forward to helping others around me soon... i havebeen studying diligently and taking lots of notes for just thefundamentals - optimal health is really about the fundamentals. ..nothing really fancy to optimal health!!checking out for now (time to work!),Kelvin

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Oat helps me sleep when I eat it at evening.

I have a serious sleep disorder.

Oat is present in some herbal formulas for relaxation.

Rena

Re: Are Breakfast formulas good for kids>> I thunk it's kashi brand that's typically decent out of all the box> cereals. perhaps not as good as eating cardboard since it does have> some sugar and salt in it. but my son and wife seem to be perty happy> with the taste..and has a good amt of fiber in it too. btw, .y wife n> kid have not yet transitioned to the cardoard flavor cereals free of> sugar, salt, n fat yet...will they ever...hmmm .. dunno bout that yet.>> if ur looking for hot cereal...bulk bin steel cut or even the ultra> expensive in the box (same taste and type steel cut) works fine for> hot cereal....>> what have u (anyone) found to work for cereal (hot or cold)?>> kelvin> via cell>> Recent Activity>> 4> New Members>> Visit Your Group> Give Back>> for Good>> Get inspired>> by a good cause.>> Y! Toolbar>> Get it Free!>> easy 1-click access>> to your groups.>> >> Start a group>> in 3 easy steps.>> Connect with others.>> .>>