melatonin

[Guest guest]

We have found melatonin to be really helpful and have been using it 2

years now. We give our son 1 mg about 1/2 before bedtime and it

seems to help him fall asleep. In fact, he asks for it now. There

is a liquid version that we mix in his OJ. He used to take 45 mins

to 1 hour to fall asleep and has always been a fairly poor sleeper

(stopped napping at a year or so). I don't think it can hurt so

giving it a try might help. Give it a week or so to work.

> My almost 6 yr old daughter with HFA has always had

issues with

> sleeping since she was a newborn. It has improved over the years,

but

> is still a far cry from normal sleeping. Tuesday she was up until 3

in

> the morning and then woke up at 9 Wednesday. She fell asleep for

two

> hours and she woke up not feeling well, vomited and then she was

not

> ill any longer but she was awake until 8 this morning. This kind of

> thing ( not the vomiting) happens at least once a week. I have

heard

> about melatonin and was wondering if anyone else has tried this

with

> any success.

> Thanks,

> Heidi

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

also had a hard time falling asleep. He slept wonderfully when

he was a baby and toddler. I guess his sleep issues started about 1st

grade or so. He would toss and turn for hours before he went to sleep.

He is now on Respirdal too and sleeps GREAT!!!! I give it to him with

dinner and the poor thing just falls asleep wherever unless I can catch

him first. I just went in to check on him now and noticed that his

guinea pig cage was open... She was in the bed with him laying down by

his head. had fallen asleep playing with her! Funny!!!

Jackie

On Jul 12, 2007, at 4:27 PM, and/or Robin Lemke wrote:

> We tried it and didn't really see any results.

> Ian has never slept.  Almost like he doesn't need it.  Never took naps

> past 1 yr old or so.

> We've just adapted to him....and got past trying to make him

> sleep...hee hee.

> Since he's been on Respirdal,,,,he now sleeps.

> Ahhhh......

> Robin

>

> hambonemcgee <hambonemcgee@...> wrote:

>> My almost 6 yr old daughter with HFA has always had issues with

>> sleeping since she was a newborn. It has improved over the years, but

>> is still a far cry from normal sleeping. Tuesday she was up until 3 in

>> the morning and then woke up at 9 Wednesday. She fell asleep for two

>> hours and she woke up not feeling well, vomited and then she was not

>> ill any longer but she was awake until 8 this morning. This kind of

>> thing ( not the vomiting) happens at least once a week. I have heard

>> about melatonin and was wondering if anyone else has tried this with

>> any success.

>> Thanks,

>> Heidi

>>

>

> Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I use melatonin occasionally myself if my sleep pattern has gone out of sync for some reason. I wish I'd have known about it when my children were younger - life could have been so much easier!

The only thing I would suggest is to go on the lowest dose possible and work up gradually to find the levels that suit best.

I know with myself that a 1g capsule works fine. However we were recently only able to get 3g size tablets (we're in the UK and have to import from the US) which completely knock me out and make me feel really groggy for most of the following day.

As far as my research has shown, though, it is a much safer option to the standard sleeping tablets.

Best wishes,

[Guest guest]

One of my NT sons has begun taking it recently. He takes just 1 mg

about an hour before he wants to go to bed and said it makes him

sleepy. Seems to be fine in the a.m., no lingering sleepiness, etc.

He's 18. If you try it, start with the 1 mg. I know some people take

3mg or even more but 1 mg (as a first night trial) would be good to

start with. ...or I guess if she's still wide awake 2 hrs later, you

could have her take another mg!

>

> My almost 6 yr old daughter with HFA has always had issues with

> sleeping since she was a newborn. It has improved over the years,

but

> is still a far cry from normal sleeping. Tuesday she was up until

[Guest guest]

Hee hee. That's how we've "misplaced" our guinea and a few hamsters, too. We always find them, thank goodness. He hee. Robin <hunebear3@...> wrote: also had a hard time falling asleep. He slept wonderfully when he was a baby and toddler. I guess his sleep issues started about 1st grade or so. He would toss and turn for hours before he went to sleep. He is now on Respirdal too and sleeps GREAT!!!! I give it to him with dinner and the poor thing just falls asleep wherever unless I can catch him first. I just went in to check on him now and noticed that his guinea pig cage was open... She was in the bed with him laying down by his head. had fallen asleep playing with her! Funny!!!JackieOn Jul 12, 2007, at 4:27 PM,

and/or Robin Lemke wrote:> We tried it and didn't really see any results.> Ian has never slept. Almost like he doesn't need it. Never took naps > past 1 yr old or so.> We've just adapted to him....and got past trying to make him > sleep...hee hee.> Since he's been on Respirdal,,,,he now sleeps.> Ahhhh......> Robin>> hambonemcgee wrote:>> My almost 6 yr old daughter with HFA has always had issues with>> sleeping since she was a newborn. It has improved over the years, but>> is still a far cry from normal sleeping. Tuesday she was up until 3 in>> the morning and then woke up at 9 Wednesday. She fell asleep for two>> hours and she woke up not feeling well, vomited and then she was not>> ill any longer but she was awake until 8 this morning. This kind of>> thing ( not the vomiting) happens at

least once a week. I have heard>> about melatonin and was wondering if anyone else has tried this with>> any success.>> Thanks,>> Heidi>>>> Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

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> > Since he's been on Respirdal,,,,he now sleeps.

Figures...I have to have the only kid who is immune to Risperdal. LOL The

melatonin has been helping some though. He's been on it for 1 1/2 years and it

helps his moods swings but it's never made him sleepy. We saw a psychiatrist

(an arrogant idiot one) who insisted the 1 mg tablet would make child fall

asleep since he took 1/2 mg once and it knocked him out. Guess I was imagining

the clock reading 12-1 am and child still up. Heck, even I know that everyone

reacts differently to medication. We've got a great dr now.

Ginger

[Guest guest]

We did use melatonin with fairly good results. Eventually, we had to move to prescription meds for sleep issues - clonidine. Now we use that and it works.

RoxannaAutism Happens

( ) melatonin

My almost 6 yr old daughter with HFA has always had issues with sleeping since she was a newborn. It has improved over the years, but is still a far cry from normal sleeping. Tuesday she was up until 3 in the morning and then woke up at 9 Wednesday. She fell asleep for two hours and she woke up not feeling well, vomited and then she was not ill any longer but she was awake until 8 this morning. This kind of thing ( not the vomiting) happens at least once a week. I have heard about melatonin and was wondering if anyone else has tried this with any success. Thanks, Heidi

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry to hear that the Respirdal didn't help your child sleep!

It's one of the things that I consider a " good " side effect from the

medication. 's sleep problems consisted of taking several

hours to fall asleep and then he would toss and turn and TALK all

night. He also would wake up really early or in the middle of the

night and then could not go back to sleep! He still wakes up early

sometimes! I just have to give him the Respirdal at the same time

every night... which is hard sometimes depending what we are doing.

LOL

We are getting ready to participate in a Melatonin study at the local

Children's hospital. I'm not sure when it will start...but I'm excited

about it!

Jackie

On Jul 13, 2007, at 10:57 AM, <gdeweese@...> wrote:

>

>>> Since he's been on Respirdal,,,,he now sleeps.

>

> Figures...I have to have the only kid who is immune to Risperdal. LOL

> The melatonin has been helping some though. He's been on it for 1

> 1/2 years and it helps his moods swings but it's never made him

> sleepy. We saw a psychiatrist (an arrogant idiot one) who insisted

> the 1 mg tablet would make child fall asleep since he took 1/2 mg once

> and it knocked him out. Guess I was imagining the clock reading 12-1

> am and child still up. Heck, even I know that everyone reacts

> differently to medication. We've got a great dr now.

>

> Ginger

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My 10 year old takes Melatonin occationally. Usually just when he's excited about something that's going on the next day or if he just can't get to sleep. I don't give it to him every night. He'll ask for it if he can't sleep. It says it can take a half hour to an hour and I told him once it would take 20 minutes and now everytime he takes it he's asleep in 20 minutes. So it could work or it could be all in his head! <mabenton3579@...> wrote: We personally have not tried Melatonin but my DS was on clonidine

foralmost 2 years! He was staying up until all hours of the MORNINGseveral nights a week. We finally got him off of it when we took himoff any "upper" ADHD meds. After trying a couple of things I finallyasked the DR if we could try him on Straterra (it's the only one notlabeled a controlled substance) and viola after 2 weeks he started tofall asleep on his own BEFORE I gave him the sleeping pill!! We alsogive him a Carnation Instant Breakfast shake right before bed. Partof the problem we discovered was that he was STARVING. But it took alittle while to figure it out! Now he's just on Straterra for theHyperactivity and Prozac for his anxiety.>> My almost 6 yr old daughter with HFA has always had issues with > sleeping since she was a newborn. It

has improved over the years, but > is still a far cry from normal sleeping. Tuesday she was up until 3 in > the morning and then woke up at 9 Wednesday. She fell asleep for two > hours and she woke up not feeling well, vomited and then she was not > ill any longer but she was awake until 8 this morning. This kind of > thing ( not the vomiting) happens at least once a week. I have heard > about melatonin and was wondering if anyone else has tried this with > any success. > Thanks, > Heidi>

[Guest guest]

big huge ditto from me...well said! elizabeth

>

> Dear Iris:

>

> That is not what I have read at all. Well I get mine from

> _www.kirkmanlabs.com_ (http://www.kirkmanlabs.com) . I have read

that there is big difference

> in brands. And I have read that Melatonin actually fixes several

problems

> and that stopping it, will leave you better than when you

started. For us, we

> already couldn't sleep, so if I end up taking that cheap stuff

forever, well

> that would be wonderful because its cheap, and I won't have to

worry about

> insomnia. I have talked to many people who have taken it, and the

only bad

> report I have seen is when they take too high a dose initially,

and they dream

> too much. Golley, at least 10 people I have met told me that they

loved it.

> Shift workers like to take it to sleep during the day, and people

take if for

> jet lag. We occasionally forget to take it, and we still sleep

way better

> on those nights than before we ever took it. I think that most

problems are

> from how people take it, and where they buy it from. I have

noticed many

> people not using herbs and supplements at right dosages or wrong

brands, or mixed

> with wrong things, etc., and they ended up really missing out.

Just like

> here with the DSMA and ALA. They are always expressing taking it

a certain way

> and at right dosage, or all kinds of problems arise. Thus, its

important to

> research everything thoroughly. In summation, I recommend doing

further

> research before ruling it out. But of course, its not the cure,

its only an

> anti-oxidant and sleep aid until you are able to treat the real

problems

> (pathogens and toxins).

>

> Heidi

>

>

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[Guest guest]

>>I have talked to many people who have taken it, and the only bad

report I have seen is when they take too high a dose initially, and they

dream

too much.

-----

If you have been sleep deprived a long time, when you finally are able to

sleep deeply again, you are practically guaranteed to have unusually vivid

dreams and 'dream too much'. People going through drug withdrawal do this

too -- or quitting cigarettes. If you are sleep deprived, you are dream

deprived. When I did 22 months of drug withdrawal, my insomnia was made

worse by fears of going to sleep and being alone with my dreams. Because of

my torturous circumstances, I had a lot of nightmares, and because I slept

so poorly, when I did manage to sleep, my dreams were especially vivid --

not a good combination. I have heard from other people with serious health

problems that they had upsetting, vivid dreams when they took melatonin and

they feared ever taking it again. But it is a stage you have to go through

if you are ever to sleep well again.

Also, things I have heard recently indicate that melatonin plays an

important role in the immune system. I have been taking it in recent months

in part for that reason.

HTH,

--

Michele

talithamichele@...

http://www.atraceofme.com

If the base leaves, everybody loses: http://www.solanorail.org

[Guest guest]

(Prunus cesarus)

Montmorency cherries (13.46 +/- 1.10 ng/g) contain approximately 6

times more melatonin than do Balaton cherries (2.06 +/- 0.17 ng/g).

PubMed

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=PubMed

Copy/paste

J Agric Food Chem. 2001;49:4898-4902

> > >

> > A good source for melatonine is Montmorency tart cherries

(Prunus

> > cesarus)

> >

> > Personally I take of it one ounce (30ml) in the evening (very

good

> > result)

> >

> >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I found 3 sites I am going to go back & pore over... & some more

possible answers for me/my girl...found a spirulina connection, along

with alot of our fave foods....hmmmm, it is the first time I

have " found " me & all of my kids at the same place, food connection-

wise, anyway...

www.alternativehealth.co.nz/emfs/melatoninmain.htm

www.herbmed.org/Herbs/Herb138.htm

www.hypoglycemia.asn.au/articles/insomnia.html

I believe I could possibly live at the hypoglycemia.asn.au site - it

seems to have a little of everything good there...

My connections - possible working theory for us....

Melatonin is produced (or regulated?) by pineal gland. Fluoride

accumulates in the pineal gland, higher concentrations/affinity than

in bones & such. Fluoride is the bully of the heavy metals, a

carjacker of sorts - kicking out other metals/minerals & hitching

rides into places it should not be,etc...or rather, this is how I

understand fluoride to be. I believe, along w/mercury ( & mold), that

our other Big (maybe bigger) contributing factor to ill health was/is

fluoride (aluminum also, by way of its huge affinity/synergy with

fluoride)...via water supply (unable to get a water report for that

town, no matter how I go about it...hmmmm) & that house is built on

water table, in middle of farm country And also had major

flooding/standing water issues in basement...Spirulina is a

precursor (I read, so far) for melatonin production. The spirulina I

progesssively " needed " the entire time I lived in that house & that

within 3 mos of moving out of state, no longer felt the need to

take...also noted some B vitamin connections, esp. b6...and celiac

symptoms abounded & believe there were extreme b deficiencies going

on - spirulina would help there also...pieces of the puzzle moving

into place, maybe...seem to be finding more of our answers. woo-hoo

to that.

anyway, interesting information out there, thanks sooo much to all.

wishing all good answers

elizabeth

>

> (Prunus cesarus)Montmorency cherries (13.46 +/- 1.10 ng/g) contain

> approximately 6 times more melatonin than do Balaton cherries (2.06

+/-

> 0.17 ng/g).

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yep, I've been using melatonin on and off for years with no problems

(been on LDN 3.5+ years). Used to take melatonin every night till I

read that that wasn't good for you - something about the body stopping

producing its own.

kricket wrote:

> Can anyone tell me if it is alright to take Melatonin (for help

> sleeping) with LDN?

>

> Kris

>

[Guest guest]

Yes. Anywhere from 3 to 20 mgs per night.

Regards,

Bruce Guilmette, Ph.D.

<http://survivecancerfoundation.org>

[low dose naltrexone] Melatonin

Can anyone tell me if it is alright to take Melatonin (for help

sleeping) with LDN?

Kris

[Guest guest]

Beyond the age of 40, the melatonin production decreases very, very

dramatically. By 60 you are typically making less than 10% of what you did

at the age of 20. Kind of like LDN, once you start taking it regularly, you

should continue to do so. Won't hurt you. Melatonin is also an excellent

antioxidant.

Regards,

Bruce Guilmette, Ph.D.

<http://survivecancerfoundation.org>

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Melatonin

Yep, I've been using melatonin on and off for years with no problems

(been on LDN 3.5+ years). Used to take melatonin every night till I

read that that wasn't good for you - something about the body stopping

producing its own.

kricket wrote:

> Can anyone tell me if it is alright to take Melatonin (for help

> sleeping) with LDN?

>

> Kris

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kris,

Every time I take melatonin, it makes me drowsy the next day. I think you are

better off with 5-HTP, calcium/magnesium capsules, valerian, and/or Chamomile

tea.

All the best,

Dudley Delany

dudley_delany

[low dose naltrexone] Melatonin

Can anyone tell me if it is alright to take Melatonin (for help

sleeping) with LDN?

Kris

[Guest guest]

Melatonin is okay to take along with LDN.

Art

--

> Can anyone tell me if it is alright to take Melatonin (for help

> sleeping) with LDN?

>

> Kris

>

[Guest guest]

,

Melatonin isn¹t something that Dr. Goldberg uses as part of his protocol.

He has mentioned the that one of the benefits of the SSRIs (he uses them to

improve blood flow in the brain) is that they have been clinically shown to

improve sleep.

Hope that helps.

Caroline G.

From: <sleepyzee2@...>

Reply-< >

Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:11:19 -0400 (EDT)

< >

Subject: Melatonin

Hello All,

I am new to and had a question has anyone used melatonin????? Have you

heard of this?

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Dr. G is okay with it so long as it's not used daily. He's told me

not to use it more than 2-3 days a week so keep it limited to when

it's *really* needed. He knows my son takes it and every once in a

while he makes sure to tell me again to make sure I'm not using it

too often.

cheryl

On Apr 10, 2008, at 5:11 PM, sleepyzee2@... wrote:

> Hello All,

>

>

> I am new to and had a question has anyone used melatonin?????

> Have you

> heard of this?

>

>

> Thanks

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hey Cheryl-

Thanks on the quote from Dr Goldberg re the melatonin

- we don't need it in our household but I was under

the impression it was a no-no. Then I would read of

it's limited use in CFIDS and wonder about it.

That's what this list is all about - learning from

each other what we learn in the office.

--- Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...> wrote:

> Dr. G is okay with it so long as it's not used

> daily. He's told me

> not to use it more than 2-3 days a week so keep it

> limited to when

> it's *really* needed. He knows my son takes it and

> every once in a

> while he makes sure to tell me again to make sure

> I'm not using it

> too often.

>

> cheryl

>

> On Apr 10, 2008, at 5:11 PM, sleepyzee2@...

> wrote:

>

> > Hello All,

> >

> >

> > I am new to and had a question has anyone

> used melatonin?????

> > Have you

> > heard of this?

> >

> >

> > Thanks

> >

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

? What exactly is the reason he does not like it's use consistently?

Thanks.

Angie

<thecolemans4@...> wrote:

Hey Cheryl-

Thanks on the quote from Dr Goldberg re the melatonin

- we don't need it in our household but I was under

the impression it was a no-no. Then I would read of

it's limited use in CFIDS and wonder about it.

That's what this list is all about - learning from

each other what we learn in the office.

--- Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...> wrote:

> Dr. G is okay with it so long as it's not used

> daily. He's told me

> not to use it more than 2-3 days a week so keep it

> limited to when

> it's *really* needed. He knows my son takes it and

> every once in a

> while he makes sure to tell me again to make sure

> I'm not using it

> too often.

>

> cheryl

>

> On Apr 10, 2008, at 5:11 PM, sleepyzee2@...

> wrote:

>

> > Hello All,

> >

> >

> > I am new to and had a question has anyone

> used melatonin?????

> > Have you

> > heard of this?

> >

> >

> > Thanks

> >

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I don't know Dr. G's reason but from my experience, melatonin works well with my

children but if you use it everyday, it becomes ineffective and my children

develop excema. - Jill

angie huiz <angiehuiz@...> wrote: ? What

exactly is the reason he does not like it's use consistently?

Thanks.

Angie

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

He views it kind of like giving your child sleeping pills.

Cheryl

On Apr 12, 2008, at 10:47 PM, angie huiz wrote:

> ? What exactly is the reason he does not like it's use consistently?

> Thanks.

>

> Angie

>

> <thecolemans4@...> wrote:

> Hey Cheryl-

> Thanks on the quote from Dr Goldberg re the melatonin

> - we don't need it in our household but I was under

> the impression it was a no-no. Then I would read of

> it's limited use in CFIDS and wonder about it.

> That's what this list is all about - learning from

> each other what we learn in the office.

>

>

>

> --- Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...> wrote:

>

> > Dr. G is okay with it so long as it's not used

> > daily. He's told me

> > not to use it more than 2-3 days a week so keep it

> > limited to when

> > it's *really* needed. He knows my son takes it and

> > every once in a

> > while he makes sure to tell me again to make sure

> > I'm not using it

> > too often.

> >

> > cheryl

> >

> > On Apr 10, 2008, at 5:11 PM, sleepyzee2@...

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Hello All,

> > >

> > >

> > > I am new to and had a question has anyone

> > used melatonin?????

> > > Have you

> > > heard of this?

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

If I remember correctly, I think he also told me that long-term use of

melatonin can effect/mess with their hormones. It's been a couple of

years since I asked him about it, but at that time he didn't want us

to use it at all.